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Dennis Lewis6 said:At 15, your body is still under construction. I wouldn't recommend touching any protein supplements just yet. At least, not yet.
Take a thicker rope and head straight for the nearest branch🙄 omg
Dennis Lewis6 said:Oh, I'm sorry, let me go check my facts😲😲 😲
What kind of mistake did I make?🙂
☕You were clearly born knowing everything. My bad for actually knowing a thing or two better than you.
You're tripping... big time.
Alright, here’s one for you... I’m starting to lose my gut, but whatever.
jadetiger962 said:Then why bother correcting a post about elliptical trainers and power walking?
I was talking about aerobic training... nutrient intake can be adjusted depending on how hard you're pushing it.
jadetiger962 said:It’d be great if you actually backed that up with some logic. Why glucose specifically? As far as I know, slower carbs work just fine, especially if we're talking about low-intensity aerobic training.
I definitely wasn't talking about low-intensity cardio. I mean actual aerobic sports—soccer, cycling, stuff like that.
jadetiger962 said:Ellipticals and power walking are aerobic workouts where glucose and Whey aren't really a big deal. That stuff matters more for anaerobic training (lifting weights and things like that).
I'll say it again... you actually need glucose even more after aerobic training!
You said you put on 18 lbs in a year... that's a massive jump, and most of that is probably just fat and water weight. Maybe it's time to cut? Drop a few pounds first, then look at bulking again.
Trust me, I know from experience... it has nothing to do with your workout routine. There isn’t some magic exercise that’s going to fix this. It’s just genetic junk settling right on your chest, and the only real way out is to drop your body fat percentage.
silverfox41 said:What do you mean "aerobic training isn't that intense"?! I’m gasping for air after an hour of boxing. Glucose paired with Whey protein spikes insulin, which helps that Whey hit the muscles fast. Basically, without glucose, the Whey doesn't do much... And no, no other type of sugar is a better choice.
if we're really going to nitpick, a 50/50 dextrose and maltodextrin split or Vitargo would be better choices😛 😁
melloweagle30 said:Are you even familiar with GI?
If I'm not mistaken, glucose isn't exactly the best call after an aerobic session that wasn't even that intense...
From what I've gathered on other forums, glucose is mostly for bodybuilding...
Well, damn, if I'm wrong, but logically any other kind of sugar would be a better choice.
You need more carbs after cardio than you do after lifting... though, then again, I don't know how you define "aerobic" training.
If it hasn't been said a hundred times, it hasn't been said at all...
jadetiger962 said:Generally, you need it after anaerobic workouts.
It’s actually even more critical after aerobic stuff. In that case, you'd take roughly the same amount of protein, but way more... well, it doesn't really matter to her. She's talking about actual aerobic training, like playing soccer.
dustyotter11 said:Okay, just one more question and then I'm done.😁
So, how intense does a workout actually need to be to justify taking Whey plus glucose afterward? Especially if someone is naturally thin and still...?
My routine is three times a week in the afternoon, an hour long—body sculpting (dumbbells, lunges, squats, abs, lower back)—just home workouts, no gym.
(Not counting my morning cardio)
Sorry for being a pain, I just can't make up my mind.
Just take it. It’ll do more good than harm in any case... and if it doesn't suit you or you notice you're gaining fat (which isn't happening), you can just stop. It's all trial and error. You try something, if it works, great. If not, you change it.
Given your activity level, just play around with the amount of carbs and protein... if the workout was harder, bump it up. Simple as that.
A little info for those being misled about glutamine:
Believe it or not, even dropping muscle glutamine levels by 60% didn't touch protein synthesis. Even more surprising? Bringing blood and muscle glutamine back to baseline did absolutely nothing for protein synthesis when compared to rats that got zero glutamine treatment. Plus, while total body protein turnover stayed flat, alanine actually stimulated synthesis.
To back this up, researchers checked how glutamine supplements affected rats with sepsis. Sepsis is a brutal catabolic state where glutamine levels—and protein synthesis—tank. Once again, the study proved that even pumping muscle glutamine to levels higher than normal failed to impact protein synthesis or the rats' catabolic state. (11) All in all, these studies suggest that fluctuating glutamine levels in the muscle don't move the needle on protein synthesis.
A separate human study looked at what happens when you toss glutamine into an amino acid mix to see if it boosts muscle protein synthesis. (30) Long story short: the original amino acid infusion bumped protein synthesis by almost 50%, but adding glutamine to the cocktail added zero value. Bottom line: whether blood glutamine drops after a workout or not, it doesn't seem to play a major role in immunity, making glutamine useless for that purpose too.
Scientific American recently reviewed over 75 research papers regarding the effect of glutamine on immunity and muscle growth, reaching this conclusion: "Overall, although glutamine obviously plays important metabolic roles within the body, supplementation does not appear to provide consistent beneficial or therapeutic effects, except during certain catabolic situations. Glutamine availability, therefore, does not seem to be a limitation in many challenge situations." (19)
You have to look at how these human studies actually delivered the glutamine. Turns out, getting glutamine into your bloodstream and muscles is much harder than people think. As I mentioned, plenty of cells crave glutamine for fuel. The gastrointestinal tract, specifically, is a glutton for it—it can soak up as much as 40% of the body's glutamine. Just think about the first place this "miracle supplement" hits. You’d have to swallow a massive amount just to keep your gut from devouring it all before it reaches your muscles. Chugging 20g of a single amino acid might sound like a blast to some masochists, but for the rest of us, that kind of glutamine dump usually leads to nasty GI distress. Not worth it.
On the bright side, two studies involving bodybuilders using heavy doses (0.3g/kg/d and 0.9g/kg lean mass/d) reported zero side effects. (2, 7) The bad news? Those same authors found zero positive results either.
Here's another reason why wasting money on glutamine powder is pointless:
Most glutamine supplements get shredded by digestive enzymes before they ever hit your bloodstream. The only real way your muscles benefit from glutamine is the way nature designed it—by converting it from BCAAs. Here is the cold, hard truth: if you go too long without BCAAs, you aren't growing, and you might actually be sliding into a catabolic state. It’s that simple. Imagine the potential if you could actually keep your muscles fueled with that growth factor all day.
I’ve waded through a mountain of studies on Glutamine via PubMed, and here’s my take... when it comes to bodybuilding, it does absolutely NOTHING. The only thing Glutamine actually accomplishes is giving your immune system a tiny nudge, which isn't a bad thing, but it's definitely not worth your money. Plus, there's endless debate about how much of that powder actually gets absorbed by your body anyway. Bottom line? Don't believe everything you read (aka: don't fall for the ads).
You should probably space out the creatine and Glutamine intake a bit... though honestly, Glutamine is pretty much useless anyway. 🙂
Simply put, if you're slamming whey without any Glucose after a workout, your body's going to end up burning that protein just to refill your glycogen stores... which is a pretty damn expensive way to get energy 🙂
Jesse Martinez23 said:Is that just one little scoop included in the tub?
Dunno. Just buy a scale.
Eat whole eggs, unless your cholesterol is trashed... and never eat them raw.
Here’s my photo:
Do I actually have weak abs? I’ve never even used a weighted plate for core work...
The thing is, when you actually do sit-ups with decent technique—meaning you focus on the contraction and hold that peak position for a second or two... I start shaking by the tenth rep. Fifteen is my limit.
Every muscle grows under tension, sure, but how you apply that tension matters. You can't train your calves or forearms the same way you hit your biceps or legs. The core is its own specific beast.
