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Liberation as the goal. But for what? in Spirituality ·
Since we’re already diving into this topic, does anyone else find it fascinating that both the ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts and the Tibetan guide for the great transition in the West share the exact same title: the Book of the Dead?
Beyond just the name, does anyone else see striking parallels in the astral travel techniques described in both works?
Dark Night of the Soul in Spirituality ·
Jeremy Davis7 said:What kind of "abyss" are we even talking about here, pal!?

Care to elaborate?

Thanks for asking. The Abyss I’m referring to is that fundamental illusion—that construct that creates friction, distance, or a total void between you and me, between us and everyone else, and between the material world and the spiritual one.
Dark Night of the Soul in Spirituality ·
The dark night of the soul refers to that final, grueling stretch of the journey toward realization—it’s essentially the sheer grit required to leap across an absolute abyss.
During this specific phase, a practitioner loses every shred of internal or external hope regarding their spiritual progress. It feels like everything is falling apart.
But by pushing through that darkness, you finally attain the physical embodiment of realization and a mind that is completely untethered from doubt.
Anyone tried Yoga Nidra? in Spirituality ·
Yoga Nidra is essentially a technique for the total dissolution of the physical identity within that vast emptiness we call consciousness. By doing this, we gain a much sharper awareness of our bodies and the true nature of everything that arises—which, in turn, starts to take the shape of pure bliss.
Anyone tried Yoga Nidra? in Spirituality ·
Every single day and night.👍
Heartbreak in Spirituality ·
Casey Gomez2 As specified by:
Taoism claims to have an answer for everything—honestly, it reminds me a lot of how medieval philosophy or ancient medicine used to operate, where they’d swear they had the definitive explanation for just about any phenomenon under the sun.

placidjackal36 said:
I don't know what you're trying to get at with that, but if you're looking for a deep dive into some obscure topic or just throwing out random words, you're going to have to be a bit more specific. I'm all for a good conversation, but I can't exactly pick up where you left off if you aren't giving me any context to work with. Lay it out for me. kaže:
placidjackal36, don't you ever just ache for some genuine human connection? Honestly, we need to watch babies grow up to understand how to actually live naturally. When we cling to those bitter, uncomfortable experiences from our past, we end up killing off parts of ourselves that aren't even useful anymore. We shouldn't be archiving that trauma like it's some precious collection; we need to let it go. The whole concept of suffering really just stems from that "stone-hearted" philosophy people cling to. I mean, how can anyone feel at peace in their own skin when they’re carrying around a heavy weight in their chest? It’s painful, sure, but it’s also a signal—a reminder that you need to change something if you ever want to stop hurting. In that sense, holding onto suffering is just pure self-destruction and masochism, and it wreaks havoc on your health. Love and a simple human touch? That's the actual cure.

Of course I feel that longing when they're gone. It’s only human.
Look, I agree with your point, but here’s what I was actually getting at: the heart is essentially just a muscle pump. Its rhythm is tied directly to the brain—everything from stress levels to cognitive load can shift how fast or how steadily it pulses—and because we can physically feel that sensation, people started using it as a metaphor for emotion. That’s where the confusion starts. People take the metaphor as literal truth, and that's the mistake. It's as simple as that.

Nicole Lee4 Asks:
Just wanted to jump in here and add my two cents to this whole heartfelt discussion.
A few years back, I went through some rough patches that gave me my first real taste of what people mean when they talk about a broken heart. It’s a heavy thing. Logic always told me that the heart is just a muscle—that it shouldn't actually "hurt" in a physical sense because there aren't enough nerve endings in the organ itself to transmit that kind of pain. But honestly? Common sense doesn't mean much when you're actually feeling it.
Honestly, when that happened to me, I was absolutely certain I was having a heart attack.
I’d say that, along with family, it’s one of those things that just sticks with you forever.
It’s funny how that works—I didn't even realize I actually had a heart until it started hurting. It’s one of those things you just take for granted, like breathing or having a pulse, right? You don't really notice the machinery is running until something starts grinding or stalling out on you. Suddenly, you're acutely aware of the very thing that was just sitting there quietly in the background all along.

It’s a heavy feeling when your heart starts aching because the tissue isn't getting enough oxygenated blood—or worse, if nothing is flowing at all. Take a blocked coronary artery, for example. When a section of the heart muscle is cut off from its oxygen supply, it triggers that intense, crushing pain we call a myocardial infarction. But honestly, there’s so much more to physical pain than just that one scenario, and most of us tend to... In your head. It feels like a dull ache right in the center of your chest, almost like your muscles are just seizing up around it. Honestly, if you aren’t in shape and try to knock out a quick five-kilometer run, you’ll swear you’re having a full-blown heart attack. 🙂

"Quote:"

Look, the heart isn't just some tangled web of neurons. What Taoism teaches about the "heart" isn't really what we discovered when we actually started digging into how the organ works. Our understanding of the heart has evolved way beyond ancient philosophy. Nowadays, we have actual medicine to rely on.
There’s a massive difference between just debating how many teeth a horse has and actually getting up, walking down to the stable, prying an equine's mouth open, and doing the manual labor of counting them yourself.

Back in the day, Aristotle actually thought the brain was just there to cool down the blood. That idea stuck around way longer than it should have, mostly because people were too lazy to actually investigate and preferred to just lean on old philosophy instead.
They just kept babbling on and on rather than actually cracking someone open to take a closer look at how things work.

The reality is, you've got one brain in your body, but it’s functionally split up into a ton of different specialized parts.

I don't see much point in trying to enlighten you all through some external factor—if I just hand you the answers, I’m essentially robbing you of the chance to actually reach that realization through your own damn hard work. It feels a bit hollow that way. Because of that, I decided to go ahead and delete the link to those scientific papers that back up my point:

The heart is really just the brain in a different skin.
Heartbreak in Spirituality ·
Casey Gomez2 said:"Quote:"

Everything hurts. Muscle cramps, too. But let me not be too literal...
What poets romanticize as the "heart" is actually just emotion. Scientifically speaking, that core processing happens in the temporal lobe, but because of how much emotions drive human behavior, people have simply concluded the center resides in the chest...

I fail to see why there is such a constant fixation on infants and physical touch. What exactly is the connection there...?

The heart functions as a neural network much like the brain does—something Taoism touches upon when discussing the concept of the three brains.
Can spirituality exist without God? in Spirituality ·
Alright, let's dial back the off-topic chatter. Everyone can have their own mirror at home—there's really no need to go looking for reflections of your own psyche in someone else's projection.
Can spirituality exist without God? in Spirituality ·
driftingraven122 said:Thanks for the effort—interesting post, I guess.

Quincy:
So—until I actually sat down and thought about it—I assumed "I" was the one doing the thinking, but now I realize that's just an illusion.
Was that some kind of spiritual technique you used? 😁

Quincy:
...
2) What kind of technique can gradually wake you up? How long does it take to wake after sleep? One moment you're asleep, and the next you're awake... probably still groggy, but awake nonetheless. There aren't any techniques for waking up. You just have to want to wake up RIGHT NOW. No prep work, no specific methods, and no waiting around for things to shift. Transformation is instantaneous—it doesn't require time.
Did you actually manage to wake up using that method?
Well, I read your post, and it didn't quite work for me.

Honestly, this might be the post of the year in my book—total KBTAR (as we say in the States)
Can spirituality exist without God? in Spirituality ·
God is the Source of all spirituality.
Realizing God's existence is what births faith—trying to go the other way is just a circular, futile exercise. True spirituality, if we’re being honest about what the word actually means, is nothing more than the daily affirmation of that realization of God (whether you call Him the Tao, Buddha, Allah, Christ, the Unmoved Mover, or simply Energy/Consciousness).

Faith itself? That's basically just standing behind your own convictions. It’s an act of will—like when you're absolutely certain that your actions are going to succeed and you don't flinch.

So, to answer the inevitable question: "Can spirituality exist without God?"--
The kind of spirituality you're asking about emerges within a community of people who actually live out divine principles—performing good works so genuinely beneficial that they leave no room for guilt or cause anyone harm—without needing to wrap themselves in philosophical jargon to prove it.

Since the question of God is often just a matter of terminology, in a society defined by its actions rather than its empty rhetoric, then yes—spirituality without God exists.

edit/bibliomancy based on timestamp
Galatians 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Patandjali IV, 15 in Spirituality ·
casualtiger2 said:vastusamye cittabhedattayorvibhaktah panthah

Since what is "objectively real" (vastu) is actually just one thing—any divergence between two observers happens simply because their "perceptual foundation" (citta) differs.


The differences we see in how people act can be explained by their varying capacities for perception—basically, the difference in how refined their perceptual foundation (citta) is—rather than some lack of a single, unified reality for any given object.

Translation and commentary — Zoran Zec
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Reading this morning and wondering: why are so many people so obsessed with being right? Why is winning an argument so vital to them, especially when we know our "perceptual foundations" are bound to be different?
It’s also funny how everyone claims to have their own unique life or spiritual path, yet they still constantly insist—either subtly or not so subtly—that *their* way is the only correct one.

Over time, I’ve learned not to take my own opinions too seriously—even though I still try to build them on the best, most precise info available and defend them clearly. At the end of the day, an opinion is just one possible lens for viewing reality, even if it feels like a powerful tool.
It seems like a huge issue to me. I see so many relationships—especially between partners or parents and kids—where, even when people are convinced by other sources (emotional ones, usually), they still end up clashing in these pointless power struggles over who is "right."
Maybe that obsession with our own mental constructs explains a good chunk of the conflicts we see in religion and spirituality, too.

Don't get me wrong—I'm not saying we should accept everything blindly. There's always room to critique systems, groups, or individuals. But if others aren't hurting anyone and are genuinely trying to move forward on a path of love and light, they deserve at least some understanding, if not full support.
Even when aiming for the same goal, different systems use wildly different methods. It makes you wonder where the line is, and what the point of all this "right vs. wrong" friction really is. To what extent does criticism from one school of thought actually matter to someone in another?

How do you guys handle your own opinions, and how do you deal with people who are trying to grow spiritually in a way that’s totally different from yours?

First off, you have to actually become aware of your own mindset and your own spiritual trajectory—which, let’s be honest, is already a massive, difficult undertaking in itself.
Only after that can you even begin to account for someone else's path.
"To witness oneself on the trail, while watching others pass by, is quite the spectacle."
If there is one God, yet others hold onto their own gods, you're essentially forced to hold two opposing truths at once. That means embracing—and actually surviving—the paradox. There isn't a greater feat than that.
Do We Know Anything At All!? in Spirituality ·
Anthony Perez9 said:What The Bleep Do We Know!?

This movie is absolute garbage. It was put together by some cult following a local guru obsessed with "enlightenment." 😲

//based upon the teachings of JZ Knight/Ramtha, of whom the three directors are devotees// 👎

Pure New Age nonsense. I barely made it through because a coworker insisted on it.
Just a bunch of pseudo-science and "mysticism" junk.
A total waste of bandwidth. 👎

P.S. It leans heavily into Transcendental Meditation vibes, so I bet some folks here are pushing it for that reason. 😎

Right. But what exactly about the film is inaccurate? Just because the truth feels unpleasant or cultish doesn't mean it isn't true.
What's the point of Zen koans? in Spirituality ·
Douglas Brown4 said:I guess I completely agree with you here.
But maybe that's too high of a skill level to use as a standard example right now.
Though, if we really look at it, a queen ant almost shows properties of teleportation. Unless that was all just a hoax, I suppose.

Even if it isn't teleportation, it's definitely showing some kind of telepathy, right?
What's the point of Zen koans? in Spirituality ·
Douglas Brown4 said:I suppose we can't simplify it quite that much. You aren't really "not in prison" just because you're behind bars. After all, both your body and the bars are made of similar leptons and quarks. Or force fields. We can play with that idea mentally, I guess, but we shouldn't forget that fields are still fields, and their configuration defines reality. And the reality is: there are bars, and you are behind them.

The Shell:
Thought becomes trapped because it tries to find a solution to an unsolvable problem using the shell.
That is basically what thought in a bottle is. The bottle is a dead loop. An unsolvable problem.
Stopping the attempt to solve the problem—realizing there is no solution—means canceling out the shell problem entirely. Programmers might call that an escape, a break, or something similar. An exit.
When a teacher tells an official, "She is outside," his thoughts shift away from the shell toward something else, becoming free. In doing so, both the bottle and the goose vanish as problems.

Or: if I show up at my friend's place while MrQ is hiding in the restroom, there are two ways to handle it:
a) I accidentally wander into the restroom.
b) I pretend to be crazy and wait to see how long he can stay in there.

I went with option b), I guess.
After enough time passes, everyone just waves their hand and goes, "Well, forget the goose." And that is the solution, the exit. Just like when he finally comes out of the restroom.

A physical body exists behind physical bars. But then again, there are psychological bars too—take nationalism, for example.
The best examples of being unbound by physical cages would be someone like Sri Aurobindo, who managed to express the sheer depth of a poetic soul while sitting in an actual jail cell; or Mr. Trilinga Swami, who, whenever he was arrested, would somehow just "find himself" standing on the prison roof, completely free.
What's the point of Zen koans? in Spirituality ·
Austin Hayes66 said:"once upon a time there was a goose in a bottle..." 😬🤣🤣

And both exist only within the mind of Quinn.

Hen to Pan taj Rea ki

Hen to Pan =
All is One

Panta Rhei =
Everything flows—everything is in constant motion.

Rei Ki =
The universal, cosmic energy.

Summary:
Everything is a single, universal energy that is perpetually moving.

Which means:
There is no goose and there is no bottle—they are merely external forms of energy that will eventually shift into some other shape.
There is no goose in a bottle because boundaries are an illusion; you could just as easily have a bottle inside a goose—it doesn't matter when they are made of the exact same essence.
There is no goose in a bottle in the minds of the forum users—because the Koan has been resolved.
What's the point of Zen koans? in Spirituality ·
mistyfox812 said:👍 🙂


Miscellaneous!
What's the point of Zen koans? in Spirituality ·
Teo=Tao
What's the point of Zen koans? in Spirituality ·
mistyfox812 said:It’s called ''...the word zen is actually just a variation of some old Greek term for life...''

Zen-on says: look, you gotta get through half the distance before you can finish the whole trip. But wait—before you even tackle that first half, you have to cover half of *that* (the first quarter). And before you do that, you’ve got to hit half of that first quarter. It just keeps going and going forever. Basically, before you could ever travel any actual distance, you'd already be stuck trying to cross an infinite number of tiny little segments.
Diogenes just gets up and walks out.

😉

👍 🙏

Panta Rei Ki!
What's the point of Zen koans? in Spirituality ·
Austin Hayes66 said:even if the bottle is just an ordinary glass one. 😉
but essentially, the koan asks: where is the goose? 👍

The goose is made of glass.
So, where is the most ordinary bottle?
What's the point of Zen koans? in Spirituality ·
Douglas Brown4 said:A goose in a bottle... Rika, a high-ranking official from the Tang dynasty, poses a question to
Zen Master Nan-zen:
- Long ago, there was a man who kept a goose in a bottle. It grew larger and larger
until it could no longer fit through the opening; he didn't want to break the bottle, nor did he want to
harm the goose—how would you get it out?
The Master shouted: - Official!
To which Rika immediately replied: - Yes!
- There, it's out! - said Nan-zen

Comments....

Hannah Wilson3's materialistic commentary:
The way I see it—the "goose in the bottle" koan refers to a chemical equation.
It's a trick; how to shove an egg through the neck of a bottle that is narrower than the egg itself.
The egg is, of course, the goose (in embryo).
Light a piece of paper, drop it into the bottom of the bottle; the smoke rising creates a vacuum that pulls the egg into the bottle.
Even though it’s wider than the neck, it ends up inside the bottle.
The Zen koan "the goose in the bottle" is just an oral transmission of a chemistry riddle that got lost through retelling.