Posts by Ronald Rogers27

Lisa Morales4 said:I'm not sure how many people here actually grasp how what's written above fits perfectly into our topic—the essence of a person, their spirituality, their role in society, the struggle to establish any real dialogue, and the sheer lack of progress that keeps turning us all into savages.
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I don't know... With my last partner, we had this incredible mental and emotional connection. Even our spirituality was perfectly aligned, which was honestly shocking because we didn't share a single thing in terms of how we approached personal growth or spiritual development.

It happened just now, and it's never happening again. It had to break. The situation we were living in was just too complicated, and there are so many layers to these things that you simply can't predict every connection or every emotional neural pathway. Those links are gone for good now.

Onward. 😬

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I can't believe I'm even saying this, but today was one of those days where everything just felt heavy. You know that feeling? Like you're walking through mud? I spent most of the afternoon staring at my laptop in a coffee shop in downtown Chicago, just trying to find some focus, but my mind was miles away. Sometimes life just hits you with a wave of exhaustion that sleep won't fix. It’s tough. Just wanted to get that off my chest. Ronald Rogers27 says:
If society actually wanted to work on making sure a Man doesn't lose his way, they'd have to start differently. Alienated. Look, if we actually want to foster social integration and build some real cohesion in this country, we have to start focusing on the spiritual development of the Man. It’s that simple. We need to lean into that kind of engagement if we want anything to stick. (Man, I'm struggling to find the right words for this in English!) 😵We need to pull everyone into every part of society—but not just to force them to fit in. We should be celebrating what makes them unique. It’s about treating diversity like an actual asset. We could do this through things like open community dialogues or practicing a kind of deep ecumenism that respects all different religious traditions and their spirituality. That's how you actually build something meaningful.

Is that Oz-style community of yours actually moving toward helping people find true spirituality? And more importantly, is the rest of America heading in that direction?

Spirituality?!

I agree that any society needs to integrate people while respecting their differences. But let’s be real—is that actually possible in any society? I don't think so. Beyond just being respectful, I believe society should go a step further. We need to actively encourage people and guide them toward different paths of spirituality. If we can push for that kind of true diversification, we might actually elevate our entire culture to a much higher level.

Dialogue? In modern societies, interest is the language everyone speaks. But in those pessimistic Eastern societies—the kind you see in places like Mexico or even here in America—blackmail is the only language people know. It’s extortion on every single level. We're talking everything from the Id, through the EGO, all the way up to the superego. And you're seriously trying to talk to me about social spirituality? 😬

Spirituality is a deeply personal thing. It’s always been that way throughout history, and honestly, it probably always will be. Our society is just built on material foundations. By design, those structures don't exactly foster true spirituality—unless they can twist it into something hollow that serves their own nobility of interest.

Truth hurts, doesn't it, tonight? 😍

Lisa Morales4 said:Off-topic.

Do you want some actual, solid arguments for why social inclusion needs to be baked into an economy that’s actually growing? 🙄

If society actually wanted to address the issue of preventing people from being dehumanized, they'd need to take a much more proactive approach. I feel like a total stranger here. Look, we really need to be pushing for genuine social integration and cohesion. The best way to actually achieve that is by focusing on the development of a person's spiritual growth. It’s about meaningful engagement, not just surface-level interaction. 😵The goal isn't just about folding people into society—it’s about weaving them into every layer of our community in a way that actually honors who they are. We shouldn't be aiming for mere integration; we should be celebrating individuality and uniqueness as a fundamental strength. This means rolling out real strategies, like fostering genuine participatory dialogue or embracing a deep kind of ecumenism—essentially a religious pluralism that shines a light on various spiritual traditions rather than smoothing them over.

We’re living in such an illuminating era of creativity right now—a time where the divine truly meets the human within the embrace of an inclusive society.

It’s honestly pointless to even attempt a discussion about this in a language that doesn't even have a word for the concept.

It’s just starting to dawn here, and it’s a chilly 35 degrees. I finally finished all the laundry, so once I hang everything up, I’m heading out to the park with my little fur babies. LOL, it definitely keeps me active. 👍
I’ll probably find myself reflecting on John Doe and his experiences, especially that deep-seated desire he has to just pull away from everything.

A divine encounter with a Man? In the most powerful nation on Earth, where some idiot like George W. Bush held the reins for eight years—nearly a hundred months of pure chaos?! 😂

Yeah, George W. Bush is such a soulful, spiritual guy. People used to call him "Soul-Man" for a reason. 😬

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I guess I'm just too emotional... I know it’s not ideal, but I honestly can't help it. 😬

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slymaker9 said:Man, this thread is already drifting into off-topic territory, and it's still so new. 😢
@nobody
It isn't quite total alienation, more like an emotional distance—an emotional divorce, if you will. Anyway, fine.
In any case, I don't have anything against you personally.
While this topic does touch upon relationships and love, that feels like a tangent, especially since we're getting into specific personal experiences. If you want to keep discussing those things, I'd ask you and tt to move the discussions regarding romantic successes, failures, and ambitions over to that thread about evil. Even though that one is technically off-topic too, it has basically turned into a confession booth. 😁

As far as staying on this specific topic goes, you are both more than welcome.🙂

Fine. I'll make sure to steer clear of your topics. Just do me a favor and don't go cloning mine—it’s like looking at a distorted reflection in a funhouse mirror.

Nothing personal, I just don't want to mess up your flow... 👍

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I don't have much to say about todaytonight. Just keeping things moving. kaže:
So, they basically ended you. 😬 This is just awful. Truly awful.
I just have to know—how on earth did that Man defend himself like that? 🙄
No, I still think they were just being dramatic. They managed to package everything so perfectly that you actually fell for it. All they really wanted was to get you to make those changes... which clearly didn't happen, since things ended up getting "extremely aggressive."

I’ve been with plenty of women in my short time on this earth. Every single one was different. My last girlfriend, though? She was on a whole other level of aggression and dominance. It’s not like I haven't dealt with that type before—it was a long time ago. This latest one felt straight out of an episode of Sex and the City.

Life just grinds everything down. It’s going to grind her down too, the last one left. She’ll end up as nothing more than a bloody stain on the pavement... just like how that Sex & the City episode got absolutely trashed. Man, they totally ruined it. And God, she was so full of herself—I can't even begin to describe that level of ego.

Déjà vu. There’s just no helping it. 😬

I can't believe I'm actually saying this, but today was one of those days. Just one of those long ones where everything feels heavy. Honestly, I’m just glad to be home. kaže:
Look, some people—doesn't matter if they're men or women—just set their standards sky-high from the jump. Honestly? I think that's the right move. If you end up settling for only half of what you actually wanted, you’re still better off than if you had started with bottom-of-the-barrel expectations. Just imagine if you only got half of a total disaster. No thanks.

I have incredibly high standards. So far, not a single woman has actually met them. And look, it’s not like I haven't tried... I’ve spent time looking inward and realizing my own flaws. I get it. I’m far from perfect. But I do things my way, and there’s something unique about that. I need someone who can actually wrap their head around who I am, but women like that just don't seem to exist. You all think you know everything about yourselves—like having a meltdown because of a chipped nail or something equally trivial. Cool. If that's how it is, then it is what it is. 😬

Lisa Morales4 said:So, I guess they were the ones who ended up tearing you down. 😬 That is just awful. Truly terrible.
I honestly can't even wrap my head around how that guy managed to defend himself like that. I just need to know what his secret was. 🙄
No, I still think they were just being dramatic. It sounds like they all managed to sell you on that idea by packaging it so perfectly, when really, all they wanted was to get you to agree to those alterations... which clearly didn't happen, since they ended up being "extremely aggressive" in the end.

Some people—regardless of whether they're men or women—just set incredibly high standards from the jump. Honestly, I think that’s actually a good thing. If you end up getting only half of what you initially aimed for, you're still better off than if you had started with bottom-of-the-barrel expectations. Just imagine how miserable things would be if you only walked away with half of something that was already a total disaster.

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Yeah, inclusivity... when we women decide to "carefully put things together," we tend to encompass the entire world. We have this way of taking everything—both the visible and the invisible—into account, which often ends up pushing you men to broaden your own horizons.

That female intuition is something else—it’s powerful enough to build an entire empire, from buying a house and a car to launching a successful business or creating a perfect home life. Honestly, what can I even say? It’s like watching Maya and Paul work their magic. 😍

Kudos to you. It’s clear you’re an incredibly responsible man with a deep sense of duty as the sole "provider" and caretaker here. I honestly don't know whether to say Mrs. Flintstone—your Wilma—is lucky to have you, or if I should be worried for her, since it feels like you're leaving her out of that responsibility entirely. In today's world, isn't it supposed to be a 50/50 partnership? A true empire is built when Maya and Paul tackle everything together.
My biggest life lesson came from realizing that Paul honestly thought he was the center of the universe.

LOL don't forget to top it off with some cream, yum! 👍

You're just making wild assumptions because you don't have any actual facts to back them up. Fine, whatever. You win. Go ahead, take the dogs for a walk in the park or something. Since most guys tend to have such narrow perspectives anyway. 😍

Lisa Morales4 said:So, I guess they were the ones who ended up tearing you down. 😬 That is just awful. Truly terrible.
I honestly can't even wrap my head around how that guy managed to defend himself like that. I just need to know what his secret was. 🙄
No, I still think they were just being dramatic. It sounds like they all managed to sell you on that idea by packaging it so perfectly, when really, all they wanted was to get you to agree to those alterations... which clearly didn't happen, since they ended up being "extremely aggressive" in the end.

Some people—regardless of whether they're men or women—just set incredibly high standards from the jump. Honestly, I think that’s actually a good thing. If you end up getting only half of what you initially aimed for, you're still better off than if you had started with bottom-of-the-barrel expectations. Just imagine how miserable things would be if you only walked away with half of something that was already a total disaster.

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Yeah, inclusivity... when we women decide to "carefully put things together," we tend to encompass the entire world. We have this way of taking everything—both the visible and the invisible—into account, which often ends up pushing you men to broaden your own horizons.

That female intuition is something else—it’s powerful enough to build an entire empire, from buying a house and a car to launching a successful business or creating a perfect home life. Honestly, what can I even say? It’s like watching Maya and Paul work their magic. 😍

Kudos to you. It’s clear you’re an incredibly responsible man with a deep sense of duty as the sole "provider" and caretaker here. I honestly don't know whether to say Mrs. Flintstone—your Wilma—is lucky to have you, or if I should be worried for her, since it feels like you're leaving her out of that responsibility entirely. In today's world, isn't it supposed to be a 50/50 partnership? A true empire is built when Maya and Paul tackle everything together.
My biggest life lesson came from realizing that Paul honestly thought he was the center of the universe.

LOL don't forget to top it off with some cream, yum! 👍

Every woman I’ve ever dated thought they were 1000% (10x) more capable than they actually were. Honestly? They were a joke. Responsibility? Please. They couldn't even wipe their own noses properly, let alone handle anything serious... 😍 😍

I have zero issues with women buying my drinks, dinner, or treating me. Only one woman in my life ever actually did that. She was capable of surviving on her own and taking care of herself. She was the only one I truly wanted to marry. It's obvious why. Unlike other women who just offered empty words, lies, and cheating, she wasn't just some porn star in bed and nothing else. That's what most others based their "other qualities" on... 🤣

Is that really how you win a man over? Is that the most important thing?! 👎

Did you walk the dogs yet???

Lisa Morales4 said:So, I guess they were the ones who ended up tearing you down. 😬 That is just awful. Truly terrible.
I honestly can't even wrap my head around how that guy managed to defend himself like that. I just need to know what his secret was. 🙄
No, I still think they were just being dramatic. It sounds like they all managed to sell you on that idea by packaging it so perfectly, when really, all they wanted was to get you to agree to those alterations... which clearly didn't happen, since they ended up being "extremely aggressive" in the end.

Some people—regardless of whether they're men or women—just set incredibly high standards from the jump. Honestly, I think that’s actually a good thing. If you end up getting only half of what you initially aimed for, you're still better off than if you had started with bottom-of-the-barrel expectations. Just imagine how miserable things would be if you only walked away with half of something that was already a total disaster.

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Yeah, inclusivity... when we women decide to "carefully put things together," we tend to encompass the entire world. We have this way of taking everything—both the visible and the invisible—into account, which often ends up pushing you men to broaden your own horizons.

That female intuition is something else—it’s powerful enough to build an entire empire, from buying a house and a car to launching a successful business or creating a perfect home life. Honestly, what can I even say? It’s like watching Maya and Paul work their magic. 😍

Kudos to you. It’s clear you’re an incredibly responsible man with a deep sense of duty as the sole "provider" and caretaker here. I honestly don't know whether to say Mrs. Flintstone—your Wilma—is lucky to have you, or if I should be worried for her, since it feels like you're leaving her out of that responsibility entirely. In today's world, isn't it supposed to be a 50/50 partnership? A true empire is built when Maya and Paul tackle everything together.
My biggest life lesson came from realizing that Paul honestly thought he was the center of the universe.

LOL don't forget to top it off with some cream, yum! 👍

Yeah, that one woman... she struggled with that. I didn't know how to explain what I really felt. But yeah, I wanted it to be at least 75:25, giving her room for her own needs. My position in Life allowed me to do that.

I never insisted on being dominant. I just wanted equality. She understood that.

There were much nastier problems... You know how it is. 😉

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slymaker9 said:As I mentioned, I am not in favor of alienation. I absorb a great deal from my environment—both consciously and unconsciously—process it, and I find that perfectly acceptable.
Despite the fact that society doesn't always cater to my whims, I am a social creature at heart.

On the other hand, if you truly want to actually alienate yourself, assuming this isn't just an act or a pose, it seems you would have to stop posting on this forum entirely. It is otherwise inevitable that people will influence you, just as you influence them.

Right now, I just need some peace. It’s a kind of isolation. I don't need anyone around me in Real Life. That doesn't mean I've gone off the grid—I still socialize plenty. I talk to you guys, I engage with the world. Mentally, sure. But emotionally? I'm staying closed off. I have a Mission: Impossible to pull off. I know exactly how impossible this task is, but honestly, I've never felt more confident. I’m going to make it through. It’s simple math: it's just me versus self. 👍

slymaker9 said:As I mentioned, I am not in favor of alienation. I absorb a great deal from my environment—both consciously and unconsciously—process it, and I find that perfectly acceptable.
Despite the fact that society doesn't always cater to my whims, I am a social creature at heart.

On the other hand, if you truly want to actually alienate yourself, assuming this isn't just an act or a pose, it seems you would have to stop posting on this forum entirely. It is otherwise inevitable that people will influence you, just as you influence them.

I’m talking about physical alienation.

So, you guys want me to stop posting on this forum? I get it. I know I’m a handful. I’m a tough pill to swallow, and maybe I’m a little too much for some people to handle. Am I really that dangerous? Is that why you feel like you need to get rid of me?

Just say the word. If that's what you want, then I'm out. I won't push it anymore. NEVER Either I get to post in your threads, or I’m done talking to you. Period. 🙂

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Lisa Morales4 said:Well, can I then try to catch you in your own complex mechanism of spiritual motivation? 😛

You women, when you put it together, it can sound quite lovely: one of the implicit motivations within a complicated system of incentives. 😍

So, I guess we're all about inclusivity here. 😍

I advocate for the alienation of Man so that he can first fix his own context and find alignment with himself before attempting to integrate with Society. A Man liberated from blackmail is far more motivated and satisfied than one living in a broken society, pretending he’s in control of his life.

But couldn't that "fixing" and "integration" happen simultaneously? 😕
Ronald Rogers27, you act like a perfectionist editor: first observation, then perception, then realization, then intention, then the rough draft, then logic, then aesthetics, then the second draft, then the first copy, then the second, third, then the final version, and only then do you actually take action. 🙄

By the way, don't you know that a tiny bee flying miles for pollen—always finding its way back to its hive without fail—only needs intuition 🙂
to prove there is more God in her than in a Man who is handicapped by his own foresight, reaching for heights when all the answers are already right there in his heart.

.. and I'm chiming in too .. representing simplicity itself.

😢 👍

Yes. Go ahead. Make my day. 😬

Lisa Morales4 said:Well, can I then try to catch you in your own complex mechanism of spiritual motivation? 😛

You women, when you put it together, it can sound quite lovely: one of the implicit motivations within a complicated system of incentives. 😍

So, I guess we're all about inclusivity here. 😍

I advocate for the alienation of Man so that he can first fix his own context and find alignment with himself before attempting to integrate with Society. A Man liberated from blackmail is far more motivated and satisfied than one living in a broken society, pretending he’s in control of his life.

But couldn't that "fixing" and "integration" happen simultaneously? 😕
Ronald Rogers27, you act like a perfectionist editor: first observation, then perception, then realization, then intention, then the rough draft, then logic, then aesthetics, then the second draft, then the first copy, then the second, third, then the final version, and only then do you actually take action. 🙄

By the way, don't you know that a tiny bee flying miles for pollen—always finding its way back to its hive without fail—only needs intuition 🙂
to prove there is more God in her than in a Man who is handicapped by his own foresight, reaching for heights when all the answers are already right there in his heart.

.. and I'm chiming in too .. representing simplicity itself.

😢 👍

I had a pretty rough experience recently. Honestly, some women can be so incredibly exclusive, extroverted, and just straight-up aggressive. It was intense. 😬

Lisa Morales4 said:Well, can I then try to catch you in your own complex mechanism of spiritual motivation? 😛

You women, when you put it together, it can sound quite lovely: one of the implicit motivations within a complicated system of incentives. 😍

So, I guess we're all about inclusivity here. 😍

I advocate for the alienation of Man so that he can first fix his own context and find alignment with himself before attempting to integrate with Society. A Man liberated from blackmail is far more motivated and satisfied than one living in a broken society, pretending he’s in control of his life.

But couldn't that "fixing" and "integration" happen simultaneously? 😕
Ronald Rogers27, you act like a perfectionist editor: first observation, then perception, then realization, then intention, then the rough draft, then logic, then aesthetics, then the second draft, then the first copy, then the second, third, then the final version, and only then do you actually take action. 🙄

By the way, don't you know that a tiny bee flying miles for pollen—always finding its way back to its hive without fail—only needs intuition 🙂
to prove there is more God in her than in a Man who is handicapped by his own foresight, reaching for heights when all the answers are already right there in his heart.

.. and I'm chiming in too .. representing simplicity itself.

😢 👍

I can multitask, sure, but if you aren't a total pro, things can get messy fast. It’s way too easy to lose track of everything. Just look at what **Bob** said as an example.

Lisa Morales4 said:Well, can I then try to catch you in your own complex mechanism of spiritual motivation? 😛

You women, when you put it together, it can sound quite lovely: one of the implicit motivations within a complicated system of incentives. 😍

So, I guess we're all about inclusivity here. 😍

I advocate for the alienation of Man so that he can first fix his own context and find alignment with himself before attempting to integrate with Society. A Man liberated from blackmail is far more motivated and satisfied than one living in a broken society, pretending he’s in control of his life.

But couldn't that "fixing" and "integration" happen simultaneously? 😕
Ronald Rogers27, you act like a perfectionist editor: first observation, then perception, then realization, then intention, then the rough draft, then logic, then aesthetics, then the second draft, then the first copy, then the second, third, then the final version, and only then do you actually take action. 🙄

By the way, don't you know that a tiny bee flying miles for pollen—always finding its way back to its hive without fail—only needs intuition 🙂
to prove there is more God in her than in a Man who is handicapped by his own foresight, reaching for heights when all the answers are already right there in his heart.

.. and I'm chiming in too .. representing simplicity itself.

😢 👍

Women's intuition is something else. It’s powerful enough to build an entire life on—I'm talking buying houses, driving nice cars, crushing it in business, and creating a perfect home. Honestly, what can I even say? It's like those old stories about Maya and Paul. 😍

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slymaker9 said:So, what now? 🤷
Nothing. I will simply assume you prefer the truth over a flattering lie.🙂
Ronald Rogers27, certain topics and questions resonate with a large number of people, which is why our current discussions overlap. The question regarding the negative impact of modern society on the individual is an age-old one—a subject considered by every liberal and humanist.

I have read and participated in your thread, and it is certainly possible that it served as an unconscious catalyst within the complex machinery of motivation.
However, it seems to me that our topics are fundamentally different. This is due not only to our distinct language and style but also because you seem to advocate for alienation from others—or at least, that is my impression. My own focus is on connecting with God, with others, and with oneself.🙂

In any case, I never intended to be your competition. 😍
I only consciously noticed the similarity because you brought it to my attention.

You women... when you phrase it like that, it sounds almost sweet: one of the implicit motivations within a complicated incentive mechanism. 😍

slymaker9 said:So, what now? 🤷
Nothing. I will simply assume you prefer the truth over a flattering lie.🙂
Ronald Rogers27, certain topics and questions resonate with a large number of people, which is why our current discussions overlap. The question regarding the negative impact of modern society on the individual is an age-old one—a subject considered by every liberal and humanist.

I have read and participated in your thread, and it is certainly possible that it served as an unconscious catalyst within the complex machinery of motivation.
However, it seems to me that our topics are fundamentally different. This is due not only to our distinct language and style but also because you seem to advocate for alienation from others—or at least, that is my impression. My own focus is on connecting with God, with others, and with oneself.🙂

In any case, I never intended to be your competition. 😍
I only consciously noticed the similarity because you brought it to my attention.

My view is that a Man needs to distance himself first. He needs to sort out his own context and find peace within himself before he can truly integrate with society. A Man who breaks free from those external pressures is way more motivated and fulfilled than someone trying to survive in a broken community, clinging to the illusion that he's actually in control of his life.

slymaker9 said:So, what now? 🤷
Nothing. I will simply assume you prefer the truth over a flattering lie.🙂
Ronald Rogers27, certain topics and questions resonate with a large number of people, which is why our current discussions overlap. The question regarding the negative impact of modern society on the individual is an age-old one—a subject considered by every liberal and humanist.

I have read and participated in your thread, and it is certainly possible that it served as an unconscious catalyst within the complex machinery of motivation.
However, it seems to me that our topics are fundamentally different. This is due not only to our distinct language and style but also because you seem to advocate for alienation from others—or at least, that is my impression. My own focus is on connecting with God, with others, and with oneself.🙂

In any case, I never intended to be your competition. 😍
I only consciously noticed the similarity because you brought it to my attention.

I wasn't trying to criticize you. I just wanted to point out that you might be unconsciously adopting my ideas within this whole complex spiritual motivation thing. 😬

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slymaker9, I’ve noticed that your threads always seem to follow mine with a bit of a delay.

Why are you following my lead? You take my topics, twist them around to fit your own perspective, and then try to push them out there as if they're some brand-new idea.😍

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You’ve got to have an awakening not just regarding who you are, but how you relate to your neighborhood... The real winning combo happens when you're awake toward the entire world. You become immortal once you're truly awake toward the Universe.

People (around here in the States) usually only wake up ONLY on their own terms. Then they suddenly think they’ve got God by the beard.

That’s why we see these dysfunctional states that look more like failed Latin American republics. It’s all because of that specific level of "awakening."😬

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It really comes down to how emotionally mature or stable someone actually is.
Being serious is what saves a person's soul.
Taking responsibility helps you spot and control destructive patterns before they spiral.
Willpower is a hallmark of those who are both serious and responsible.
Security is just what happens when you have those two things.
Being hrabar is the result of life experience and true awakening.
Real courage means admitting when you feel insecure. That’s how you actually identify the problem and find a way through it.
Insecurity isn't just something that hits during puberty; it shows up during every single stage of life.
Liveliness is subjective, though it's definitely shaped by weight coefficients.
At its core, insecurity is just a lack of understanding regarding Life within and a lack of self-knowledge.

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Gregory Jackson said:I guess I’ll try to lay out how the human evolutionary path might look down the road, you know? It’s basically the developmental roadmap for all races in the cosmos, where some species just happen to move through it faster while others take their sweet time. To clarify a bit, for us Americans, the dimensions of the universe aren't really some other physical place we teleport to when we hit the next level; it’s more like we stay right here on Earth, but with a totally transformed consciousness and a whole new set of abilities that come from spiritual growth and getting closer to God. The gaps between neighboring dimensions aren't always massive, but if you compare, say, the second to the ninth, it’s literally night and day—talking about lifespans, the frequency our consciousness vibrates at, spiritual powers, how much our thoughts align with God's will, and even the kind of help a civilization gets in terms of food, energy, and other stuff.
Right now, humans are stuck in the 13th, which is the lowest one, unfortunately, and I suppose that mostly depends on how old a species is and its specific evolutionary track. Once upon a time, we were actually in the second, in paradise.
So, here’s a little breakdown of a few of them (I think I posted a shorter version on the alternative board earlier)...

The Ninth Dimension
The ninth is a little bit more advanced than the 13th. Growth in this dimension is somewhat limited, but it still allows most people or other living beings,
to reach a level during their lifetime that could be defined by an aura purity of about 98.9%. That allows for a pretty decent alignment between their thoughts and God's will, good health, peace, and tolerance—just for context, enlightened people hit about 99.945%, while really sick folks hover around 96%. However, it’s super rare for individuals to reach any significantly higher levels of development.
This dimension just wasn't built to produce highly evolved beings, so civilizations here mostly fluctuate between being quite backward and relatively advanced. The ninth dimension never really produced anything spectacular. Even though there have been negative occurrences, they were from smaller dimensions and never really threatened the stability of these civilizations.
Think of this dimension as the final stepping stone for weakly or moderately developed beings. This means it’s the last instance where just an incredibly tiny number of individuals can actually ascend to higher spiritual heights and be noticed on a cosmic scale. It’s part of that lower third of dimensions where humans are, sadly, sitting right at the bottom in the 13th.

The Seventh Dimension
In this dimension, people would have a much clearer insight into paranormal phenomena and spirituality right from birth, so there’s a real possibility for a huge chunk of the population to achieve very high development. About 70% of people pass the 98.9% mark, 10% reach 99.99%, and 2% are truly enlightened. This civilization is definitely a class above those below it because it produces a solid number of extra-developed beings; plus, you get a slightly better average aura purity, more enlightened souls, and the first real signs of a widespread interest in the cosmos—more people who, even if they aren't super successful at it, are actively studying the universe and its mysteries. The seventh dimension is characterized by very few negative thoughts or actions, making it extremely stable, so there’s practically zero chance for civilizations there to fall apart.
Once people make it to the seventh dimension—well, most of them, anyway—things will become so much clearer. People will finally realize just how many opportunities are available to them, like they're right under their noses, and they'll see that they just need to focus more on spiritual growth and sacred knowledge to become even better versions of themselves.

The Sixth Dimension
Over here, 80% of beings have an aura purity over 98.9%, 10% hit 99.9%, and 4% are enlightened. The civilizations living in this dimension have actually produced two or three great universes and a whole bunch of incredibly important spiritual figures. Interest in the cosmos and interacting with spiritual energies is huge here, so maybe around 30% of these beings are involved, with varying degrees of success, in spirituality and the general mechanics of the universe.

The sixth dimension is basically the threshold where you don't find any serious negative thoughts or actions anymore. So, from the sixth dimension upward, that kind of thing just doesn't exist. There might still be some minor, trivial negativity, but it plays a relatively harmless role. The sixth dimension represents a very serious level of spiritual development for the civilizations inhabiting it, and there isn't much room for doubt anymore; there's no more ignorance regarding God, spiritual energies, how the universe works, or the meaning of life. That knowledge has become a fundamental, normal part of everyday existence—what you might call "sacred knowledge." These sacred truths are the bedrock of life for these communities and serve as the source for further progress, vision, perspective, and everything positive.

The Fifth Dimension
So, I was thinking about how, in the fifth dimension, maybe around 90% of beings—or whatever you want to call them—manage to hit an aura purity of about 98.9%. Then there’s that top 10% hitting 99.92%, and I guess about 5% are actually fully enlightened. This specific dimension is pretty special because, unlike the lower ones, it’s actually produced dozens of those absolute legends of the universe, plus a huge amount of super important people where, you know, half of them are deeply into spirituality and all those cosmic questions.
What’s really cool about the fifth dimension is that you don't even find mid-level negative thoughts there; it's just mild or really, really mild stuff, which I think shows how incredibly stable all the civilizations living there are.
Think of the fifth dimension as the final stretch in the middle-development group, basically like the ultimate warm-up before making that massive leap toward paradise. It’s the last dimension where you don't see those intense, driving urges or overwhelming desires to constantly fix your mindset, dive into spirituality, or hunt for paranormal stuff and sacred wisdom. That relentless, unstoppable hunger isn't quite there yet like it is in the first group of dimensions, but it starts brewing in the fifth, especially in about ten percent of the population, which eventually pulls everyone else in that civilization along in the same direction.
In the fifth dimension, the activation process definitely kicks off, and once it starts, it’s probably impossible to stop in the higher dimensions because it becomes the defining path for the entire nation.

The Third Dimension
In this one, I’d say roughly 7% of beings are enlightened. It’s a super stable place, honestly; you practically won't find anyone with negative thoughts, attitudes, or actions, since most folks here have a really positive way of looking at things.
This is where exploring spiritual energies and paranormal phenomena starts becoming a mainstream thing, almost like a national interest for many of the civilizations hanging out there. It provides such awesome conditions for growth because the opportunities to develop spiritually are just massive. Also, the third dimension is the first one where bodies feel significantly lighter than they did in the previous dimensions. As you move up from the lower levels, this drop in density starts off pretty slow, then picks up speed, but it’s really in these last two dimensions where you notice it seriously—though this dimension is where the weight finally drops enough to let spirituality really bloom, since a lot of the heavy problems caused by density are mostly sorted out. Because of that, there are tons of beings here who are considered universal greats and a huge number of highly evolved individuals. I guess about 70% of beings are involved in spirituality or research, whether as a hobby or something more professional.

The First Dimension
Living beings can't really access this dimension; it's sort of reserved for spiritual and other types of energy. Compared to the dimensions where actual living beings exist, this one is incomparably more advanced spiritually and carries way more power and knowledge. Unlike the steady, gradual climb from the 13th down to the second dimension, this one is like this massive, incredible jump—there's just such a huge gap compared to the lower ones. It basically means the achievements and potential of living beings can never, ever be compared to the energies found in the first dimension. There are infinite possibilities for understanding everything in the paranormal world here, which is only accessible to those extremely developed individuals from any dimension. And, I suppose, the higher the dimension a being comes from, the easier it is for them to briefly "dip into" this dimension and tap into that deep well of knowledge.

I'll get to the second and zeroth dimensions in a separate post...

I’m looking at this breakdown of dimensions... If we're currently stuck in the 13th dimension, then as a human race, I don't see us ever making it up to the 9th. And don't even get me started on anyone else.

So, how exactly does the idea work—that the human race originated from "Paradise"? We’re talking about Adam and Eve, and the whole human lineage evolving out of the Garden of Eden based on biblical legend. It makes you wonder: where does this "Paradise" actually exist?

Gregory Jackson said:I guess I’ll try to lay out how the human evolutionary path might look down the road, you know? It’s basically the developmental roadmap for all races in the cosmos, where some species just happen to move through it faster while others take their sweet time. To clarify a bit, for us Americans, the dimensions of the universe aren't really some other physical place we teleport to when we hit the next level; it’s more like we stay right here on Earth, but with a totally transformed consciousness and a whole new set of abilities that come from spiritual growth and getting closer to God. The gaps between neighboring dimensions aren't always massive, but if you compare, say, the second to the ninth, it’s literally night and day—talking about lifespans, the frequency our consciousness vibrates at, spiritual powers, how much our thoughts align with God's will, and even the kind of help a civilization gets in terms of food, energy, and other stuff.
Right now, humans are stuck in the 13th, which is the lowest one, unfortunately, and I suppose that mostly depends on how old a species is and its specific evolutionary track. Once upon a time, we were actually in the second, in paradise.
So, here’s a little breakdown of a few of them (I think I posted a shorter version on the alternative board earlier)...

The Ninth Dimension
The ninth is a little bit more advanced than the 13th. Growth in this dimension is somewhat limited, but it still allows most people or other living beings,
to reach a level during their lifetime that could be defined by an aura purity of about 98.9%. That allows for a pretty decent alignment between their thoughts and God's will, good health, peace, and tolerance—just for context, enlightened people hit about 99.945%, while really sick folks hover around 96%. However, it’s super rare for individuals to reach any significantly higher levels of development.
This dimension just wasn't built to produce highly evolved beings, so civilizations here mostly fluctuate between being quite backward and relatively advanced. The ninth dimension never really produced anything spectacular. Even though there have been negative occurrences, they were from smaller dimensions and never really threatened the stability of these civilizations.
Think of this dimension as the final stepping stone for weakly or moderately developed beings. This means it’s the last instance where just an incredibly tiny number of individuals can actually ascend to higher spiritual heights and be noticed on a cosmic scale. It’s part of that lower third of dimensions where humans are, sadly, sitting right at the bottom in the 13th.

The Seventh Dimension
In this dimension, people would have a much clearer insight into paranormal phenomena and spirituality right from birth, so there’s a real possibility for a huge chunk of the population to achieve very high development. About 70% of people pass the 98.9% mark, 10% reach 99.99%, and 2% are truly enlightened. This civilization is definitely a class above those below it because it produces a solid number of extra-developed beings; plus, you get a slightly better average aura purity, more enlightened souls, and the first real signs of a widespread interest in the cosmos—more people who, even if they aren't super successful at it, are actively studying the universe and its mysteries. The seventh dimension is characterized by very few negative thoughts or actions, making it extremely stable, so there’s practically zero chance for civilizations there to fall apart.
Once people make it to the seventh dimension—well, most of them, anyway—things will become so much clearer. People will finally realize just how many opportunities are available to them, like they're right under their noses, and they'll see that they just need to focus more on spiritual growth and sacred knowledge to become even better versions of themselves.

The Sixth Dimension
Over here, 80% of beings have an aura purity over 98.9%, 10% hit 99.9%, and 4% are enlightened. The civilizations living in this dimension have actually produced two or three great universes and a whole bunch of incredibly important spiritual figures. Interest in the cosmos and interacting with spiritual energies is huge here, so maybe around 30% of these beings are involved, with varying degrees of success, in spirituality and the general mechanics of the universe.

The sixth dimension is basically the threshold where you don't find any serious negative thoughts or actions anymore. So, from the sixth dimension upward, that kind of thing just doesn't exist. There might still be some minor, trivial negativity, but it plays a relatively harmless role. The sixth dimension represents a very serious level of spiritual development for the civilizations inhabiting it, and there isn't much room for doubt anymore; there's no more ignorance regarding God, spiritual energies, how the universe works, or the meaning of life. That knowledge has become a fundamental, normal part of everyday existence—what you might call "sacred knowledge." These sacred truths are the bedrock of life for these communities and serve as the source for further progress, vision, perspective, and everything positive.

The Fifth Dimension
So, I was thinking about how, in the fifth dimension, maybe around 90% of beings—or whatever you want to call them—manage to hit an aura purity of about 98.9%. Then there’s that top 10% hitting 99.92%, and I guess about 5% are actually fully enlightened. This specific dimension is pretty special because, unlike the lower ones, it’s actually produced dozens of those absolute legends of the universe, plus a huge amount of super important people where, you know, half of them are deeply into spirituality and all those cosmic questions.
What’s really cool about the fifth dimension is that you don't even find mid-level negative thoughts there; it's just mild or really, really mild stuff, which I think shows how incredibly stable all the civilizations living there are.
Think of the fifth dimension as the final stretch in the middle-development group, basically like the ultimate warm-up before making that massive leap toward paradise. It’s the last dimension where you don't see those intense, driving urges or overwhelming desires to constantly fix your mindset, dive into spirituality, or hunt for paranormal stuff and sacred wisdom. That relentless, unstoppable hunger isn't quite there yet like it is in the first group of dimensions, but it starts brewing in the fifth, especially in about ten percent of the population, which eventually pulls everyone else in that civilization along in the same direction.
In the fifth dimension, the activation process definitely kicks off, and once it starts, it’s probably impossible to stop in the higher dimensions because it becomes the defining path for the entire nation.

The Third Dimension
In this one, I’d say roughly 7% of beings are enlightened. It’s a super stable place, honestly; you practically won't find anyone with negative thoughts, attitudes, or actions, since most folks here have a really positive way of looking at things.
This is where exploring spiritual energies and paranormal phenomena starts becoming a mainstream thing, almost like a national interest for many of the civilizations hanging out there. It provides such awesome conditions for growth because the opportunities to develop spiritually are just massive. Also, the third dimension is the first one where bodies feel significantly lighter than they did in the previous dimensions. As you move up from the lower levels, this drop in density starts off pretty slow, then picks up speed, but it’s really in these last two dimensions where you notice it seriously—though this dimension is where the weight finally drops enough to let spirituality really bloom, since a lot of the heavy problems caused by density are mostly sorted out. Because of that, there are tons of beings here who are considered universal greats and a huge number of highly evolved individuals. I guess about 70% of beings are involved in spirituality or research, whether as a hobby or something more professional.

The First Dimension
Living beings can't really access this dimension; it's sort of reserved for spiritual and other types of energy. Compared to the dimensions where actual living beings exist, this one is incomparably more advanced spiritually and carries way more power and knowledge. Unlike the steady, gradual climb from the 13th down to the second dimension, this one is like this massive, incredible jump—there's just such a huge gap compared to the lower ones. It basically means the achievements and potential of living beings can never, ever be compared to the energies found in the first dimension. There are infinite possibilities for understanding everything in the paranormal world here, which is only accessible to those extremely developed individuals from any dimension. And, I suppose, the higher the dimension a being comes from, the easier it is for them to briefly "dip into" this dimension and tap into that deep well of knowledge.

I'll get to the second and zeroth dimensions in a separate post...

I wish you’d dive a bit deeper into that bolded sentence. How exactly does density and weight decrease? Are we talking about some kind of new evolutionary leap for the human race? And why on earth would spiritual growth be tied to density in the first place? 🤷

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Bachukka raised me... Back in the late 70s, I was hanging around Gold dust (they had two military bases stationed in Czechia at the time; I actually dated this girl who was in my class, and her old man was a Lieutenant General commanding a Soviet tank brigade)...

I messed up... Or maybe Ryan played me. Who knows...

Yga... This isn't even the first time I've blown it, let alone the hundredth... 😬

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Reasoning is a tricky thing... It’s a total mess and then some. It's supposed to be a witness to the Truth. But whose Truth are we talking about?

Truth comes in many flavors. Hitler's truth is treated as truth. Stalin's truths are treated as truths. Even Jesus' truths are held up as truth.😬

The real question is who's going to use logic—and sheer force—to impose THEIR version of the truth on everyone else! 😍

The reality is that old-school dictators managed to force THEIR reality on the world. Honestly, that doesn't seem all that bad compared to how today's creators of Democracy try to strip away that fundamental power... 👍

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Patrick Wright2 said:I’ve been noticing lately on this forum that some folks—and I’m talking about the ones who actually show a spark of intelligence and common sense, not the clowns who basically trip over their own feet in a single sentence 🤦—who tend to lean into logical, coherent reasoning and follow a thought process pretty selectively when they're using their brains.

For example, someone will grab a logical argument just to tear down someone else's point, completely failing to see that the exact same logic totally nukes their own argument too. So, they just pick and choose where to apply logic, staying totally blind to it whenever it hits their own side of the fence.

That kind of intellectual hypocrisy and inconsistency really gets under my skin. Personally, if I ever debunk a claim and realize it might actually mess with my own stance, I’m more than willing to pivot and revise my view if it turns out I was being illogical.

Have you guys run into this kind of mindset before, and honestly, how do you even get people to start applying the same logical standards to themselves as they do to everyone else?

People are subjective, especially when it comes to themselves. It’s totally human nature. I don't see anything wrong with it—that's why we have discussions in the first place, to try and find common ground if it's even possible in that situation. 😬

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Gregory Jackson said:So, I was thinking about this, and honestly, I feel like that spiritual energy is basically the backbone of the entire Cosmos, you know? It’s tucked away in every single little speck of existence out there, and it's right inside us too, kind of like how the Creator is woven into everything. I guess you could look at it like this massive, intricate web—it's almost like the Creator kept adding more and more layers of energy to the mix whenever the universe needed something new to happen during creation, so all these different energies sort of act as one big unit instead of just doing their own thing independently. It’s pretty wild to imagine, but maybe at some point, all that energy flows through what people call a central trunk, and then it just branches back out everywhere across the universe again.

I guess you could say that if you hit the right spiritual frequency—and actually realize that even doing so is an option, which, let's be honest, most people don't even wrap their heads around—you can basically tap into all sorts of energies. It’s kind of wild, really. You just put out a request for a specific kind of "intervention," and then these spiritual energies sort of weigh in on whether they want to answer you at all, how loud they should shout back, or maybe even decide to send a completely different energy that fits the vibe better for some reason. It all happens in a literal heartbeat, and the response you get back is just as instant. Like, personally, I might pray for some healing or ask for a little nudge in my spiritual growth, and I'll definitely feel a session coming back my way, but more often than not, I don't even bother naming a specific energy. I just leave it open, and the universe decides which force is best suited to show up for me. But, I should probably mention that what I get back isn't always this massive, earth-shattering thing, because there’s this fundamental rule you have to keep in mind: the strength of the response—the actual impact it has—really depends on your own spiritual level. So, I suppose the more spiritually evolved a person becomes, the more they're able to receive, and eventually, that leads to having much greater abilities. At the same time, though, just making these requests and getting those responses actually helps lift your vibration, cleanses your aura, and makes your thoughts way more positive, which I think ultimately makes us all a bit healthier and more spiritually aligned.

So, check out this image—it basically shows how a request or an intention travels toward the core of this specific energy, like a sort of energetic wave hitting the "trunk" of the source, and then that energy flows right back out to the person who's sick. I guess you could say it works pretty much the same way as remote healing does, if that makes sense, which I think it kind of does.



So, I was thinking about these massive, global energies—you know, the kind of stuff that just moves the needle on a cosmic scale—and honestly, their whole purpose is just so incredibly multifaceted that we probably couldn't even wrap our heads around all of it if we tried, I guess. But from what I can gather, it’s mostly about generating these specific types of energy for super niche tasks, like maybe crafting the early blueprints for bioluminescent organisms or setting up entirely new energetic hubs and complexes out there in space. It gets pretty wild when you think about it, because they might be involved in shaping dead matter, breathing life into non-material or physical beings, or even sending out this massive life wave that basically jumpstarts inanimate matter into existence. And then, there's the heavy lifting, like overseeing the birth of stars and planets, or even acting like some kind of cosmic gardener by moving living organisms from one planet to another where the conditions are just right, so life can actually take root or maybe speed up its evolution. Plus, they're probably working behind the scenes to try and dodge or soften the blow of those inevitable, huge cataclysmic events that just seem to happen sometimes, etc., etc.

I mean, I really think the whole Universe is being steered by something, you know? Like, there’s this massive superintelligence behind the scenes taking care of everything, even if most people just assume we're floating around alone and that everything happens purely by accident—just "nature" doing its thing or whatever. Sure, some stuff probably runs on autopilot, like evolution and all that, but I guess those processes are actually just running within a much larger system that laid down the foundation and wrote the initial code to get it all moving.

That’s a really interesting point. What’s the actual baseline for that spiritual level needed to make contact? And I’m a bit lost on how you actually "ask" the Cosmos's spiritual energy? Is it through petitions? Like prayers in an American Church? Or just asking a simple question? Or maybe a series of questions?

Do these spiritual energies always respond based on your level, or do they sometimes just stay silent? 😬

Gregory Jackson said:So, I was thinking about this, and honestly, I feel like that spiritual energy is basically the backbone of the entire Cosmos, you know? It’s tucked away in every single little speck of existence out there, and it's right inside us too, kind of like how the Creator is woven into everything. I guess you could look at it like this massive, intricate web—it's almost like the Creator kept adding more and more layers of energy to the mix whenever the universe needed something new to happen during creation, so all these different energies sort of act as one big unit instead of just doing their own thing independently. It’s pretty wild to imagine, but maybe at some point, all that energy flows through what people call a central trunk, and then it just branches back out everywhere across the universe again.

I guess you could say that if you hit the right spiritual frequency—and actually realize that even doing so is an option, which, let's be honest, most people don't even wrap their heads around—you can basically tap into all sorts of energies. It’s kind of wild, really. You just put out a request for a specific kind of "intervention," and then these spiritual energies sort of weigh in on whether they want to answer you at all, how loud they should shout back, or maybe even decide to send a completely different energy that fits the vibe better for some reason. It all happens in a literal heartbeat, and the response you get back is just as instant. Like, personally, I might pray for some healing or ask for a little nudge in my spiritual growth, and I'll definitely feel a session coming back my way, but more often than not, I don't even bother naming a specific energy. I just leave it open, and the universe decides which force is best suited to show up for me. But, I should probably mention that what I get back isn't always this massive, earth-shattering thing, because there’s this fundamental rule you have to keep in mind: the strength of the response—the actual impact it has—really depends on your own spiritual level. So, I suppose the more spiritually evolved a person becomes, the more they're able to receive, and eventually, that leads to having much greater abilities. At the same time, though, just making these requests and getting those responses actually helps lift your vibration, cleanses your aura, and makes your thoughts way more positive, which I think ultimately makes us all a bit healthier and more spiritually aligned.

So, check out this image—it basically shows how a request or an intention travels toward the core of this specific energy, like a sort of energetic wave hitting the "trunk" of the source, and then that energy flows right back out to the person who's sick. I guess you could say it works pretty much the same way as remote healing does, if that makes sense, which I think it kind of does.



So, I was thinking about these massive, global energies—you know, the kind of stuff that just moves the needle on a cosmic scale—and honestly, their whole purpose is just so incredibly multifaceted that we probably couldn't even wrap our heads around all of it if we tried, I guess. But from what I can gather, it’s mostly about generating these specific types of energy for super niche tasks, like maybe crafting the early blueprints for bioluminescent organisms or setting up entirely new energetic hubs and complexes out there in space. It gets pretty wild when you think about it, because they might be involved in shaping dead matter, breathing life into non-material or physical beings, or even sending out this massive life wave that basically jumpstarts inanimate matter into existence. And then, there's the heavy lifting, like overseeing the birth of stars and planets, or even acting like some kind of cosmic gardener by moving living organisms from one planet to another where the conditions are just right, so life can actually take root or maybe speed up its evolution. Plus, they're probably working behind the scenes to try and dodge or soften the blow of those inevitable, huge cataclysmic events that just seem to happen sometimes, etc., etc.

I mean, I really think the whole Universe is being steered by something, you know? Like, there’s this massive superintelligence behind the scenes taking care of everything, even if most people just assume we're floating around alone and that everything happens purely by accident—just "nature" doing its thing or whatever. Sure, some stuff probably runs on autopilot, like evolution and all that, but I guess those processes are actually just running within a much larger system that laid down the foundation and wrote the initial code to get it all moving.

Do you actually need to know all these different spiritual energies? Do you have to name them? And what does this "Cosmic Spirituality" actually mean—those levels you mentioned? If individual spiritual powers exist at the level of these Cosmic spiritual energies, does that mean if you can communicate with them directly, you are virtually spiritually Immortal? Does it mean your Soul goes into the "backbone" of the Cosmos itself after death?🤷

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Gregory Jackson said:Hey everyone, I feel like some of us might be under the impression that it’s just God and us, and maybe that He’s only here specifically for our sake? I guess I want to shake things up a bit and get a discussion going, so I thought I’d share these transcripts of spiritual energies given to Ljubis Stojanovica back on April 13, 1996. just as food for thought!
It’s actually pretty easy to see from this how incredibly complex the cosmos and the life surrounding us really is—and honestly, if I were to paraphrase de mesti, we’re kind of like eagles who somehow think they’re just chickens, so that's basically how we live and eventually die... I’ve been wanting to jot this down over in the aura thread too, so here it is, though I did trim it down a little... please, feel free to feel privileged because not many people have access to this, and hey, I should probably apologize to the moderator in advance...

Everything that exists is essentially subject to a single force or energy that acts everywhere at every single moment. This force is creative in nature; it allows for the generation of energies, which in turn produce matter—both the living and the dead kind. To be most accurate, this energy should be called the Creator or God the Creator. This energy is all-pervading, possessing an unimaginable intelligence along with all knowledge and power. Since it’s omnipresent, it can't just be one uniform thing; it has to be made up of its own partial elements.
To bring His visions to life, the Creator created the unified field, which is this massive, all-encompassing energy that gave rise to other powerful energies and energetic systems—the most important being the Christ energy (don't go confusing this with the historical Jesus, keep reading!) and the energy of the Holy Spirit. Even with its immense power, the unified field won't ever do anything that doesn't align with what the Creator wants. The Creator conveys His will to the unified field through a vibration, and the unified field then tunes itself to that vibration.
The first major spiritual energy created by the unified field is a complex web of energies known as Christ. That’s why in Christian religion it's considered the Creator's son, though in other faiths it also holds a top-tier position. This energy has existed since the unified field itself has existed, and it’ll exist forever. It stretches across the entire cosmos, present in every tiny speck, in every living being, and even in dead matter. So, it’s everywhere around us and within us, but you can only really make contact with it if it decides to let you. Unlike other energies, this specific system is made up of a huge number of independent energies—about 800 of them, I think—that all work together. As an eternal spiritual energy, they carry out a ton of vital tasks that keep the cosmos functioning normally. But for us humans, the most significant part is the life wave that spreads through the universe, which is what allows living things to emerge from non-living matter; it carries that built-in program for reproduction, adapting to new environments, and evolving based on those changes. Basically, it’s the energy that creates life, maintains it throughout the universe, and emits that life wave. The Christ energy is also responsible for the relationships between living and non-living beings, which constantly need to stay in harmony.
In that sense, the Christ energy acts as the direct creator of all living beings, whereas the Creator is the creator in a more figurative sense—more like the source of the desire and the idea that the Christ energy then goes out and makes real.

Alright, I'll get into Jesus in the next post:

That's an interesting theory... This spiritual energy called Christ... Spread uniformly throughout the entire Vasiona... And it only connects with individuals if it feels like it?! 🤷

Quoting: "This system is made up of a massive number of independent energies (about 800) working together."

Can you go into much more detail on that sentence, Gregory Jackson? I’d love for you to break down those independent energies for us and explain how they act on their own while also working in superposition! 👍

Quoting further: "As an eternal spiritual force, these energies handle a huge range of vital tasks that keep the Cosmos functioning normally."

What kind of tasks are we talking about? And how exactly do they balance everything out to keep the Cosmos running smoothly? 🤷

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Gregory Jackson said:I guess you've got a point there, and yeah, the global energies definitely keep track of all that stuff, but I suppose everything in the universe doesn't run perfectly smoothly just because things are so incredibly complex. It's like... there are these special corrective energies for tweaking energy fields or phenomena, almost like the universe has its own "handymen" who step in to fix certain energy states so they stay in line with the original programming given to them by the Creator. One of those corrective energies, one of those "handymen," is actually that luminous body that the human race has the task and the honor of developing until it reaches full maturity and we don't really need it anymore. Just like how everything grows from an emotional stage, I think energies have to "grow" too. I see that Varanasi has written quite a bit on this, so maybe check out the thread on the "luminous body."

I feel like spiritual energies won't just let all that effort poured into human civilization and completing that mission go to waste, and honestly, it's probably not even a struggle for them to save a "speck of dust." The real headache is likely the efficiency of it all, since humans have free will and you can't just directly interfere with that. That really limits how much spiritual energies can maneuver to "shift" us in a positive direction, so they try to work through religions, spiritual teachers, revelations, "miracles," and so on, though the results seem pretty limited. Also, I imagine they aren't just looking out for people, but they're watching over the plant and animal kingdoms and the Earth itself as a living organism, since it's all part of the Creator's creation.

I'm with you on this... The whole architecture of the Cosmos and the Creator itself is incredibly intricate. It's definitely not simple or easy to wrap your head around.

Gregory Jackson said:I guess you've got a point there, and yeah, the global energies definitely keep track of all that stuff, but I suppose everything in the universe doesn't run perfectly smoothly just because things are so incredibly complex. It's like... there are these special corrective energies for tweaking energy fields or phenomena, almost like the universe has its own "handymen" who step in to fix certain energy states so they stay in line with the original programming given to them by the Creator. One of those corrective energies, one of those "handymen," is actually that luminous body that the human race has the task and the honor of developing until it reaches full maturity and we don't really need it anymore. Just like how everything grows from an emotional stage, I think energies have to "grow" too. I see that Varanasi has written quite a bit on this, so maybe check out the thread on the "luminous body."

I feel like spiritual energies won't just let all that effort poured into human civilization and completing that mission go to waste, and honestly, it's probably not even a struggle for them to save a "speck of dust." The real headache is likely the efficiency of it all, since humans have free will and you can't just directly interfere with that. That really limits how much spiritual energies can maneuver to "shift" us in a positive direction, so they try to work through religions, spiritual teachers, revelations, "miracles," and so on, though the results seem pretty limited. Also, I imagine they aren't just looking out for people, but they're watching over the plant and animal kingdoms and the Earth itself as a living organism, since it's all part of the Creator's creation.

I don't buy this... but hey, that's just my take. Luminous bodies, glowing energies... 👎

Gregory Jackson said:I guess you've got a point there, and yeah, the global energies definitely keep track of all that stuff, but I suppose everything in the universe doesn't run perfectly smoothly just because things are so incredibly complex. It's like... there are these special corrective energies for tweaking energy fields or phenomena, almost like the universe has its own "handymen" who step in to fix certain energy states so they stay in line with the original programming given to them by the Creator. One of those corrective energies, one of those "handymen," is actually that luminous body that the human race has the task and the honor of developing until it reaches full maturity and we don't really need it anymore. Just like how everything grows from an emotional stage, I think energies have to "grow" too. I see that Varanasi has written quite a bit on this, so maybe check out the thread on the "luminous body."

I feel like spiritual energies won't just let all that effort poured into human civilization and completing that mission go to waste, and honestly, it's probably not even a struggle for them to save a "speck of dust." The real headache is likely the efficiency of it all, since humans have free will and you can't just directly interfere with that. That really limits how much spiritual energies can maneuver to "shift" us in a positive direction, so they try to work through religions, spiritual teachers, revelations, "miracles," and so on, though the results seem pretty limited. Also, I imagine they aren't just looking out for people, but they're watching over the plant and animal kingdoms and the Earth itself as a living organism, since it's all part of the Creator's creation.

I think these spiritual energies are locally global, maybe just on the level of our Solar System. Does our galaxy, the Milky Way, actually look out for our Solar System and its local energies? 🤷

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Benjamin Taylor6 said:If there isn't any hard evidence to go on, I might as well just make up my own theory about tiny flying teddy bears that nourish our souls, sharpen our minds, and fortify our true Self. Honestly, I’ve listened to enough wild theories to last a lifetime—and believe me, I’ve dabbled in the practice myself. But unfortunately, I see so many people chasing alternative lifestyles who end up getting lost in the weeds instead of actually moving toward their "true and authentic" Self. It's tragic, really. I knew a Reiki master in my hometown who took his own life; a neighbor of mine, some Hare Krishna yoga enthusiast, used to smash storefront windows in fits of madness; and I even knew a yoga practitioner who ended up dead. The point is, practicing these things doesn't guarantee you anything. My grandmother was much wiser than all of us. She would just say a few Hail Marys a day and act as if she had God by the beard. Such lofty ideals and deep, profound spiritual discipline... just a simple prayer.

People want so much and start so many things, but their mental foundation is weak. They have zero real education or life experience to back it up... 🙄

Not everyone is cut out for this path. 😬

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Gregory Jackson said:Here we go...

I was just sitting here thinking about how, honestly, I don’t think there’s ever been a time in human history where such a tiny little slice of the world held quite so much concentrated negative energy as it did in Palestine, especially during those intense centuries leading up to the time of Jesus Christ. It’s kind of heavy when you really get into it, I guess, but all that fear for survival, the deep-seated hatred, the grief, and just general discontent... it all seems like it was born from the sheer suffering and total hopelessness felt by the Jews and all the other folks living under the thumb of the Roman Empire because of all those endless wars fought over that specific land. And, if you look at it from a certain perspective—and maybe this is just my take on it—this massive surge of negative mental frequency actually started to seriously mess with the lower layer of the Earth's aura. Now, if you aren't familiar, the Earth's aura actually has these two layers that are constantly moving, basically circling the entire planet every fifteen minutes or so, and because of its very specific vibration, that lower layer is incredibly sensitive to any negative human thoughts vibrating at 10 Hz or even lower. It’s pretty wild to think about, but all that negativity threatened to trigger these massive global cataclysms, like huge earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, floods, nasty radiation, or toxic gases spreading across most of the planet. It could have totally wiped out almost all the plants, animals, and people, which would have, well, put the whole existence of the Earth itself in serious jeopardy, I suppose.

So, I was thinking about this, and if we really wanted to get rid of that whole danger situation once and for all, I guess we’d pretty much have to tackle two main things, right? It feels like there aren't really any other ways to go about it, maybe, but you just have to carry out these two specific activities to make it happen.
So, I was just sitting here thinking about how we could maybe, I don't know, use some really powerful spiritual energies to basically patch up the Earth's aura and get everything back to a normal state, while also being super careful—like, incredibly careful—to make sure we don't accidentally mess up or hurt any of the living things on Earth in the process, I guess.
So, I was thinking about this other thing—it’s more like a preventative kind of deal, I guess—where the whole goal was basically just trying to figure out ways to flip the script on how people were thinking back then. It was all about finding those little methods to help folks move away from all that negative headspace and instead, you know, lean more into creating as much positive energy as they possibly could.

So, I was thinking about how the whole big hurdle for getting that second task off the ground was basically just the fact that we have to respect free will, you know? Like, you can't just force people to change, so I guess the only way to actually shift how everyone thinks toward something more positive was to work with a massive group of people at once. It’s kind of like when you toss a stone into a lake and those little ripples just keep spreading outward forever—that’s really what we were aiming for, creating this positive core that would eventually just wash over everything. To actually make both of these things happen, though, the only real answer was to bring forth this specific human form that could maintain a direct, constant connection with the energy of Christ. If that happened, it would let this being reach out to people directly without them feeling that instant sense of fear or dread, which I suppose is pretty important. Having that direct link to the energy of Christ would also grant this person these absolutely mind-blowing intellectual abilities and deep knowledge, not to mention the capacity to manifest some seriously high-level paranormal stuff. And honestly, this whole direction was decided by the energy of Christ itself, with total backing from the unified field and God the Creator.

So, I was thinking about this whole thing, and I guess you have to look at it from a certain angle—like, if a child is actually going to possess these incredible, almost superhuman qualities and stay constantly tuned into the energy of Christ, then the way they start out matters, right? It seems like it would be necessary for that child to be conceived in a mother's womb without any biological father involved at all. In this case, Mary of Nazareth, who was a young married woman, was chosen for this, and she ended up pregnant through this miraculous way before she even had the chance to be with her husband. And, honestly, I don't think it’s quite right to say that the Holy Spirit just announced everything to Mary and her husband like some big formal reveal. From what I can gather, the child actually developed just like any other kid would, growing normally until he hit about four years old, and back then, his parents probably had no clue there was anything supernatural going on at all. It wasn't until Jesus was a bit older that these paranormal abilities really started to kick in, and he was super careful about keeping them under wraps because, well, he realized pretty quickly that other kids just don't have those kinds of powers.

So, I was just thinking about this guy, and man, his story is just wild, I guess. He basically walked out on his whole life when he turned sixteen, just left home without even saying goodbye to anyone, which is pretty intense if you think about it. But he wasn't just wandering aimlessly; he was being guided by the energy of Christ, which sort of steered him toward the most spiritual folks around back then—people living in places like India, Tibet, and Alexandria. Then, once he hit twenty-seven, he finally got this super detailed roadmap of what he actually needed to do to win over the masses for the positive religion he was supposed to be preaching. Apparently, he was even expected to lean heavily into paranormal abilities, just to grab everyone's attention and stir up that mix of love and awe in what was basically a really primitive world at the time. It's a lot to wrap your head around, honestly.

So, I was thinking about how, over those first four years of his pioneering work, he basically managed to trek across the entire region—which was super crowded with Jews and all sorts of other folks back then, mostly within the borders of the Roman Empire. It’s kind of wild when you think about it, but it didn't really matter what anyone's nationality was; his message just seemed to hit home with people who were struggling, you know? Like, people living under oppression, dealing with hunger, or just feeling totally hopeless. For them, his teachings were like this bright light, maybe even the only path that actually made sense. His whole religious approach was sort of a blend of the most prominent faiths of that era, I guess. Jesus built his faith on two main pillars: the idea that there is only one God, and then these core guidelines for how to actually behave. You've got the Ten Commandments, which Moses received, and following those really helps clear out a ton of the negative headspace people were carrying back then. I mean, by sticking to those, it probably helped drastically reduce the damage to Earth's aura, while also giving people better health, inner peace, and a way to be more tolerant of their surroundings. It creates this really positive vibe, too, which I suppose goes a long way in cutting down on the stuff that causes wars—since, let's face it, war is pretty much the biggest source of negative energy on Earth.

So, I was thinking about how Jesus used to talk about the Creator, and it seems like His whole being is just totally inseparable from anything negative—like, there's no punishment, no threats, nothing bad at all. I guess He was basically the first version of God in human history who didn't resort to punishing people or acting all vengeful.
But then, you know how it goes, over time things started to shift, maybe because the early folks transcribing His words weren't quite on that high spiritual level yet, and later on, the Church kind of intentionally started tweaking and editing what He actually said. It’s like, slowly, they built this image of a God who threatens and punishes, and a devil who hangs over anyone who doesn't follow every single rule perfectly. There were all these little corrections, some intentional and some probably just accidents, happening over those first thousand years, which ended up making the Bible drift pretty far away from what Jesus was really saying.

If you look at the historical side of things, you've got the twelve apostles who were His main crew. Six of them were actually His brothers, and I suppose He leaned on them first since they were the ones He could truly count on right from the start. He didn't sit around writing everything down himself, either; usually, it was just two or three apostles handling the notes, but they weren't the most literate folks, and their records tended to fade away—partly because the writing materials back then weren't exactly permanent, and partly because they mostly just kept His words in their heads instead of worrying too much about the paperwork.

Then, at a certain point in how His movement was growing, it hit this crossroads where having a living leader would have been way too risky. Not just with the Jews, but with the Roman occupiers, too; if He stayed a visible leader, it could have triggered a massive crackdown, leading to war and the total wipeout of His followers, which would've just killed the whole movement. So, I think the energy of Christ decided that instead of a physical leader, it was better to create a legend—something that couldn't be physically destroyed and could actually work even more effectively than a living person ever could. It's like Jesus was made aware of all this, including the fact that His own life had to come to an end.

Right before that happened, His mission was to act as a conduit, letting this incredibly powerful spiritual energy of Christ flow through His body to perform this massive, epochal act of lowering the frequency of the Earth's aura. The idea was to clean up the damage to the Earth's aura without messing with the frequencies of living beings, eventually bringing the whole thing back to its natural state. Once that task was done, the whole reason for having Christ's energy in human form was basically complete. This all happened in those final moments while Jesus was on the cross, just before He passed away. When He saw that the Earth's aura had been restored, He said, "It is finished," but I suspect He meant that specific cosmic act, not just His own life.

To make sure the legend of Jesus was super mystical and proved He was the Son of God like He always claimed, His body supposedly disintegrated and vanished the day after being taken down from the cross. And even after death, Jesus appeared to His closest disciples and apostles two more times, though they could only see Him as a figure they couldn't actually touch.

So, yeah, don't kill the messenger! 🙂

Alright... Let me start with some questions, because I'm honestly pretty confused here! Why would Christ Energy even care about saving a speck of dust—a tiny grain of sand just a few microns wide in the middle of the Sahara desert we call the Cosmos? We’re talking about an insignificant little planet, the "third rock from The Sun," an orange dwarf that's a hundred million times smaller than a Quasar Star, for example.

When a Supernova Star happens—something a million times bigger than the Sun... wouldn't Christ Energy be focused on energy levels at that massive scale? I mean, the potential loss of life in a Supernova would be millions of times greater than anything happening in Palestine back then, or even on Earth in general! 😬

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