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The Power of Humility in Spirituality ·
mistybison said:I believe humility often carries negative connotations because it’s frequently equated with being submissive or stripped of one's dignity. In our Western society, where Christianity has lost much of its influence, the ideas of "Christian humility" and "serving God" are often unfairly linked to serving religious institutions, which triggers resistance and even contempt in many people. However, there is absolutely nothing derogatory or ugly about being humble before God.🙂

I don't think feelings like that can be forced—just like forgiveness. It is an internal process that happens within a person; you can't manufacture it through sheer will. That said, certain experiences can certainly shift how we perceive these things. My time spent around a Japanese man changed my entire perspective on humility (which, up until then, had been quite negative, much like yours). I realized that true humility isn't a sign of weakness.🙂

I don't know enough about that culture to make a definitive call, but it feels like they’re operating on a completely different wavelength. It reminds me of the concept of Yin in Taoism, for example. It’s not about bowing down to some imaginary figure; it’s more about showing respect to others and finding peace with how things turn out. As I get older, those ideas resonate with me more, while anything that smells like Christianity just starts feeling more off-putting. In old-school American frontier traditions, humility wasn't seen as a virtue—it was seen as a lack of backbone, and honestly, that's pretty much where I stand too. Anything else would feel like a betrayal of my rugged, rogue ancestors. 😬
The Power of Humility in Spirituality ·
casualcanyon3 said:Elevating humility to the status of a virtue is nothing more than the most pedestrian attempt to rationalize one's own spiritual frailty and inherent masochism. To me, it sounds like someone trying to dress up a personal perversion as some higher, more noble calling just to lend themselves a shred of credibility. Frankly, I find seeing a submissive, "humble" individual to be utterly repulsive. It reaches a point where I feel a genuine impulse to give them a kick in the teeth. Figuratively speaking, of course.

And honestly, a kick in the butt might be a step in the right direction! 🧐

I feel the same way; it sounds like spiritualizing a fetish. Look, we all have our little quirks, but this whole dominance/submission thing has definitely taken over too much territory. There are so many interesting fetishes out there, yet the most mindless one somehow managed to grab a monopoly on both spirituality and social norms. 🤣

Melissa Rogers4 said:Humility is just the passive mind calculating that being submissive will get you a better deal than haggling. Forget all that spiritual stuff...

Personally, I’m a fan of standing my ground. It’s like when you tell a street vendor, "These socks are garbage, they aren't even cotton," and you turn around to walk away, only to have them chase after you begging you to take them for half price. 😈

I don't see any reason to believe things work any differently in the spiritual realm.
Who can I talk to for help? Who should I reach out to? in Psychology & Therapy ·
Harold Anderson3 said:I actually ended up quoting myself because of this specific thought.
It just occurred to me that this might be the underlying logic behind my relationships with others.
It feels like someone—whether it's a partner, a friend, or just an acquaintance—views me as if I were that car. If I can't be "fixed" to meet their needs, they just swap me out for someone else who fits better.

While I obviously can't just replace my entire existence with a new person, others can certainly replace me with someone who suits them more easily, which is exactly what happens.

And because of that, I struggle to accept myself, which creates this cycle where I end up feeling rejected by everyone else.

I honestly don't even know what I should be using as a foundation for my self-esteem.

Do you all base yours on your career, your profession, a degree, or maybe your family ties?

Personally, I feel like I don't have a single solid thing to hold onto in my life right now.

I realize I'm probably just rambling here, since these kinds of deep-seated issues aren't going to be solved overnight through an internet forum. But I really don't know who to turn to or even where to begin?

You build it on who you are, and that isn't your job, your status, or your family. It's just you. In reality, you aren't "building" anything; you're just becoming more aware of your true self. You were born perfect. Maybe life hasn't been kind to you, but you are still who you are.

A $167dollar bill$167 is still worth its value, even if you spit on it, crumple it up, or toss it on the ground. If you don't believe me, go ahead and try it. 🤣
The Power of Humility in Spirituality ·
Sean Cruz said:Mimma, it’s like you read my mind. 😛 Honestly, Michelle Obama's posts and her whole way of thinking always rubbed me the wrong way back when she used to post here. I think they still do. 😁

I actually liked her when she was posting about her grandmother on a different subforum. She sounded like such a lovely woman—tiny, but full of fire (though I'm talking about the grandma, I don't really know Cherie. 😳 )

The whole idea of humility just doesn't sit right with me. To be honest, I find the entire concept repulsive. I tried to wrap my head around it because I thought it might help me on my spiritual journey, but I just can't do it. It actually makes me feel physically uneasy when people start pushing those kinds of ideals. Other things high on my "nope" list include the idea of forgiveness and following your heart instead of your head. I usually just scroll past stuff like that.

mistybison said:Once we realize that everything we possess and everything we are is a gift—something that could be taken away at any moment—we understand that we don't truly own ourselves. We belong to something much greater. Our role is simply to be grateful for the goodness within us and around us, rather than taking pride in thinking we earned it.

This doesn't mean a person should stop living their life. They will continue forward, enjoying their existence, their talents, and their experiences, but from an entirely different perspective.

Even our conversation here is part of that. This is an exchange of thoughts and insights. We have been given the ability to express ourselves, to share who we are, to expand our knowledge, and to gain new experiences... but all of that can be lost in an instant, perhaps through illness. Being aware of this allows a person to truly value what they have and, by remembering they aren't the masters of their own fate, prevents ego from taking over. 😁

I believe that is where true humility lies. 🙂

To me, that sounds like slavery.

But hey, I get that everyone perceives things differently. There was once a user whose signature was incredibly tacky (something about glorifying service), yet her actual posts were wonderful.
The Power of Humility in Spirituality ·
Jamie Davis9 said:Why on earth would anyone call this a beautiful post?

It’s actually terrible. 🤷 And I’m being completely serious when I say that progress simply doesn't happen without a little bit of friction and conflict.
I honestly can't wrap my head around this delusional mindset where you try to convince yourself—and everyone else around you—that you have absolutely nothing to offer and that they have nothing either. 🤔

It's useless; it looks like I'll have to go back and borrow some wisdom from Hunter S. Thompson, since he managed to articulate this perfectly so I don't have to.
🤷

There, I'm being dead serious now. 🙂

I'm on the same page. If a chick doesn't struggle and fight its way out, it's never going to break through that shell.

Jamie Davis9 said:Why on earth would anyone call this a beautiful post?

It’s actually terrible. 🤷 And I’m being completely serious when I say that progress simply doesn't happen without a little bit of friction and conflict.
I honestly can't wrap my head around this delusional mindset where you try to convince yourself—and everyone else around you—that you have absolutely nothing to offer and that they have nothing either. 🤔

It's useless; it looks like I'll have to go back and borrow some wisdom from Hunter S. Thompson, since he managed to articulate this perfectly so I don't have to.
🤷

There, I'm being dead serious now. 🙂

The guy is one of those genuinely enlightened teachers. No exaggeration. 😁

Jamie Davis9 said:It fades over time, which is just how things go, but the younger generations have to step up and drive the charge because that's simply how nature is wired.

Blah blah... do you even possess a sense of self?
If you weren't attached to who you are, you wouldn't even be posting here.

Well, I'm a human being, not a star.

It feels to me like they've just given up. And honestly, that drives me crazy because then we're stuck dealing with all this nonsense ourselves. When are we finally going to get some retirement? 🤦
Who can I talk to for help? Who should I reach out to? in Psychology & Therapy ·
darksurfer4 said:Joseph Bailey41, what on earth are you basing this claim on—that our friend Diego is dealing with Bipolar Disorder instead of schizophrenia? Look, I’m just thinking plain and simple here: if he’s taking antipsychotics and they’re actually working to keep him functional, then the treatment is hitting the mark, which to me implies the diagnosis is schizophrenia.🤔

Though, I have to admit, there is one thing that keeps tripping me up, and that’s his grandmother, who, in my estimation, clearly struggles with bipolar disorder. He describes her like some sort of headless chicken wandering aimlessly through life, and honestly, that’s the textbook definition of bipolarity—jumping from one relationship to the next, getting bored with jobs almost instantly, blowing massive amounts of cash, and launching business ventures that are completely detached from reality. Usually, they all just end up broken and retreating back home, provided they even have a home to go back to.

It's not a claim, not at all. It just sounds to me like he might not have sch... maybe he does, maybe it's something else, maybe a third thing entirely... I honestly don't know. Antipsychotics are prescribed for all sorts of things, and just because someone functions better on them doesn't prove anything. Bipolar disorder is supposedly hereditary, so if his grandmother was that way, anything is possible.

I'm not out here handing out diagnoses; I'm just saying it might be a good idea for him to get a second opinion, maybe even in Washington, D.C., if he happens to be traveling that way. Doctors in smaller towns can be a total disaster, and I'm not just talking about psychiatrists. I won't go into specific examples because I don't want to derail the thread, but I know plenty of horror stories about misdiagnoses. I mean, it's standard practice to seek a second opinion when you're diagnosed with a serious illness, just to be sure. I don't understand why that isn't as common when it comes to mental health issues.
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mistybison
Donna Doyle2 said:I honestly never thought I’d be the one giving this kind of advice to anyone, but wouldn't it actually be such a relief for you to just check into a hospital for a little while and truly decompress? Wouldn't it feel amazing to just relax, hang out with people, laugh, eat some good food, grab a coffee, or even have a smoke, all while knowing deep down that you're finally safe because there are doctors and professionals right there to watch over you? They might even be able to adjust your medication to something that actually helps you feel a bit more comfortable and at peace, so don't you think that might be exactly what you need right now?

mistybison

It’s just how it works for everyone, you know? I mean, truly *everyone* without exception! It isn't even about people trying to hide their despair or whatever; it's more like you simply don't have any other choice but to cling to those few fleeting moments in a day or a week where the darkness actually lifts, only for it to come crashing back down and making everything feel even heavier than before because you had finally started to get used to the weight, right? So then you're just left waiting, aren't you, just praying to catch one of those tiny windows of good spirits where you can forget all the trauma and the absolute mess of it all for just a few minutes?

I’m telling you, it’s true for absolutely everyone, I swear! Is there even a single person on this entire planet who hasn't dealt with their fair share of absolute chaos and deep-seated trauma? You’re dealing with psychosis while your grandmother was wandering around like a lost soul and your father was never actually around to support you, but think about how many others have faced much darker paths—some survivors of horrific abuse, some raised by fathers who struggled with alcoholism and turned violent against their families, or even those who suffered physical tragedies only to be cast out by their own kin and sent away to state facilities. Some people get blindsided by betrayal in relationships until they just snap, while others face spiritual crises that leave them seeking exorcisms or living in constant trances, or perhaps someone loses a child entirely... Nobody is putting on an act here, right? People don't choose this; they simply survive because they have to, pushing through day after day just to stay upright. Honestly, what else is life if not that struggle?

mistybison

You should probably post that on an alternative forum, because they’ll likely just delete posts like that here. Isn't it just so sad that the core principle in medical training for anyone becoming a psychotherapist is to never actually engage with the content of hallucinations? The way things are approached today is just so fundamentally flawed, isn't it? They basically tell someone already experiencing a crisis that something inside them is "broken" and needs to be fixed, which is really just another way of telling them to reject their own feelings because those feelings aren't considered "correct"—as if they didn't receive enough support growing up to handle it (which is actually quite possible and often the very reason these emotional experiences happen in the first place)!

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Harold Anderson3 says:
Can psychotherapy actually change what we have lived through, and can it truly heal those deep scars we carry from our earliest childhood?
If it could, wouldn't a whole lot more people be running to see a psychiatrist or a therapist?
What is even the point of psychotherapy anyway? Is it meant to mold us into who we want to be, or is it just about learning to accept ourselves exactly as we are?
I honestly don't see much purpose in psychotherapy at all; I mean, you can talk to someone until the sun comes up, but nobody is ever going to be in your exact shoes, right? No one can feel your pain for you, no one can take your emotions away so you don't have to feel them anymore, and no amount of talking is going to convince you that you shouldn't feel the way you do (especially since you already know how you feel!)

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So, I’m a full thirty years old now, and when I look back at my life, I just feel such deep pity for myself because most of the time I've just dealt with nothing but problems, whether it was with the people around me or within myself.
I don't know, maybe it would have been better if I had never been born, and I frequently find myself thinking about death, whether through suicide or some other way.
I know I'm rambling a bit here, but I just don't know a better way to express myself.
It’s all just a matter of perspective, isn't it? Sometimes it just isn't a good idea to believe everything your own thoughts tell you!

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Nash fell ill over fifty years ago, back when the side effects of the medications used then were sometimes even worse than the illness itself!
He wasn't even close to being functional, yet he completed the work that earned him a Nobel Prize before he ever received a diagnosis. He was unemployed for nearly his entire life until retirement, and even when he returned as a lecturer at Princeton, he was never fully healed.
I know a professor in London who had a schizophrenia diagnosis and lived on social security for years, but now he teaches at a university and writes incredible articles about how society treats people with psychiatric diagnoses!

Harold Anderson3 says:
Heyyy Joseph Bailey41, why don't you post your picture for us? 🙂🙂

🤣

Luckily, I don't have any formal training in this field, so I've just been doing some light reading here and there. I found it really interesting... R. D. Laing I can't quite recall the name of the specific psychiatrist who worked with people during acute psychosis and achieved such incredible results. If my memory serves me right, his theory suggested that the state would resolve on its own within about 40 days, meaning the most critical thing you can do is simply ensure the patient has a supportive environment to recover in. In the meantime, other thinkers like Stanislav Grof have explored states similar to psychosis, and even Carl Jung intentionally induced those kinds of experiences in himself.

In looking through modern authors who specialize in trauma recovery, I’ve come across this idea that psychosis can actually be a way for the mind to re-experience an old, deep-seated trauma—usually something from early childhood—in an attempt to finally "flush it out of the system." It often happens when something in the present unexpectedly triggers those buried memories. Peter Levin once shared a case about a veteran who essentially had a breakdown after his wife gave birth; seeing his own child triggered such intense, suppressed memories of what he had witnessed during the war. Because of this, there's been a real shift lately toward somatic psychotherapies for severe trauma. Even things like art therapy—drawing, singing, or drumming—are becoming preferred methods. The logic is that since the trauma is stored in the body and the emotions, you have to meet it there to heal. Trying to talk your way through it using just the logical brain doesn't always cut it.

Another way to look at it is through those famous support groups—the kind that never quite took off here in the States, though they definitely have their pros and cons. On the plus side, you get to talk through things in a controlled environment with people who’ve actually walked in your shoes. It can really help take the edge off that sense of isolation and make problem-solving feel a little less daunting. On the flip side, there's a risk of getting stuck. You might find yourself circling back to a victim mentality or just dwelling on the trauma itself—kind of like how some veterans tend to stay in constant contact, endlessly rehashing their wartime experiences. For those of us who aren't experts, I think the most important thing to realize is that all trauma is fundamentally similar. Regardless of the circumstances or how old you were when it happened, we’re all dealing with something. At the end of the day, we’re all navigating the same thing: our own internal emotions and the ways we react to situations that don't actually pose a threat, even if our brains are convinced they do.
Who can I talk to for help? Who should I reach out to? in Psychology & Therapy ·
Harold Anderson3 said:I want to thank everyone who shared their thoughts on this thread; you have all been such a huge help to me, 🙂
but I’ve realized I really need to find a professional to talk to about psychotherapy. I've been struggling with frequent thoughts of suicide lately, and honestly, it would be a tragedy not just for me, but for everyone around me too. If I can manage to bring in about $1,000 to $1,200 a month, I could set aside maybe $250 monthly to focus on my own mental health and well-being. After all, if I'm not here, none of this matters anyway.

Now I'm trying to recall which specific thread that was or who exactly wrote what... I think it might have been Number, but I can't be certain. Anyway, one option is to ask your primary care doctor for a referral for a second opinion. You could see a psychologist without bringing old records or mentioning an existing diagnosis; just talk to them, go through some testing, and let them give you their own assessment. You can do this anywhere, but if you're coming to Washington, D.C. soon, maybe you could handle it there. I say this because, based on what you've described, it sounds more like bipolar disorder or perhaps a personality disorder rather than schizophrenia. Psychosis can stem from a whole range of different conditions, and right now, it seems like the depression is what's hitting you hardest.

On the other hand, seeing a private practitioner is a solid idea since it's often hard to get high-quality psychotherapy through the Social Security Administration, and it's difficult to choose a specific direction that actually fits your needs. I'm not sure if you've seen the thread "Holistic and Early Personal Development," but that kind of approach seems like the least stressful option to me. It avoids re-traumatization and skips that endless digging into the past that hasn't yielded much for you so far. EMDR follows a similar philosophy and is offered at a CBT center in Washington, D.C. (I know that for a fact, though there might be something closer to you), and it's a relatively fast therapy that doesn't require quite as many sessions. In any case, look into a few different places and then decide what's best for you.
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Harold Anderson3 said:Take a seat,
She was really just asking if it’s possible to live without medication.
I tried it once, it was my last time, and I’m never going back.
Some people try five times and They Still aren't satisfied.
Even though meds have their downsides, for me, there are way more reasons to take them than to avoid them.
But she did pose a pretty valid question for Joseph Bailey41.
One reason being that even Nikola Tesla probably wouldn't find his footing in today's world. He had a pretty complicated psyche, and while he changed the world back then, those types of people struggle to succeed nowadays. The world doesn't seem to have much use for another Isaac Newton, John Nash, or even a Steve Jobs, given how difficult their personalities can be.
E: You have such a lovely name, but I think you're off base this time.

There. You did your own math and decided that taking medication is worth it for you. Nash decided it wasn't (even if that part was cut from the movie about him) and kept living with his difficult temperament. That made things pretty uncomfortable for everyone around him, and honestly, I can't even gauge how much his achievements improved the world since I don't know enough about that field. It all comes down to personal choice—weighing the pros and cons of any decision. My impression is that you don't have a bad character; rather, you just pay a lot of attention to how the people close to you feel, which makes your decision completely rational.

But it feels to me like everything for you revolves around trying to adapt to the world, as if that's your biggest hurdle. I dealt with something similar; I actually wrote about it just yesterday. If you read the second-to-last paragraph, it'll be clear how people perceived me back then. 🤣

I was lucky enough, both then and later, to meet many people who functioned differently than most and who could see right through my absurd mask. Some struggled with mental health, some had run-ins with the law, others lived perfectly balanced lives, but they all shared one thing: they couldn't fit into existing mental molds. (Which, in my opinion, are mostly a hundred times crazier than any illness.) I truly hope you find "your" people. Even if those connections are brief, I think it will mean the world to you if someone truly "sees" you for who you are, rather than the image you try to project. Don't settle for anyone making you feel less valuable, and don't let yourself be defined solely by a diagnosis. You're a human being, just like everyone else.
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Brandon Myers20 said:Well, I'm asking you now.

And look, if you actually had some revolutionary solution, you probably would've shared it ages ago with the people here who actually need help.
I don't get why you're waiting for someone to ask first.

The thing is, it's a very personal matter. Like I said before, not all psychoses are the same. You first need to talk through what they're experiencing and find common ground to reach a potential solution. (And, obviously, always have a backup plan just in case things go sideways—like having a doctor's number on hand).

I've posted links to a manual for tapering off psychiatric meds several times on this subforum—it's publicly available and has been translated into American English along with many other languages. If anyone is interested, they can find it. I also linked a YouTube channel run by someone who works specifically with people dealing with bipolar disorder (in the relevant thread), who focuses heavily on mania and psychosis. Again, if anyone wants it, they can find it. You are more than welcome to start your own thread or share your specific struggle here—nobody is stopping you. But I don't think it's right to clutter up someone else's thread with advice they didn't ask for.
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Brandon Myers20 said:It’s funny how you don't actually offer any solutions on how to manage hallucinations or deal with losing touch with reality.

Instead, you just wrote about how it's possible—basically, you just showed up and dumped all your thoughts everywhere. In spades.

And you're speaking from the "experience" of a conversation with one psychotic person. You don't live with someone experiencing psychosis, you don't work with them, you don't do anything.
That whole pathetic bit about it being the "most meaningful conversation ever"—it honestly makes me want to gag.
Sorry, gotta run, I need to go wash up.

Did anyone actually ask me for advice on controlling hallucinations? Or how to handle losing touch with reality?

If nobody did, why on earth would I write about it? ☕
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Brandon Myers20 said:Joseph Bailey41, have you actually ever met someone in a psychotic break, or do you just love talking trash and asking what’s wrong with psychosis?

I'm honestly shocked


I have. In fact, my conversation with her was more coherent than most conversations I've had in my entire life.

I realize that not every psychotic episode is the same—some people feel incredibly energized and intuitive, while others feel terrified and paranoid. That’s why I asked Harold Anderson3 what his specific experience was like and what the actual struggle was for him. I wouldn't dream of asking a question like that to someone who doesn't know which way is up, but since we're dealing with a very rational person on this forum, I figured my curiosity wouldn't catch him off guard. Clearly, I didn't account for the sudden parachute jump.☕
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Harold Anderson3 said:I wouldn't call that the core issue. The real struggle is when your thought processes accelerate so much that you basically lose your grip on reality. Then there are the hallucinations to deal with—that feeling where you can't trust your own senses anymore because you aren't sure if what you're hearing is actually happening or if it's just playing tricks on you inside your head. Medication helps by slowing those brain processes back down to a more manageable level.
On top of that, a heavy bout of depression usually follows a psychotic episode, and apparently, medication helps there too, by helping to stabilize your mental state. The goal is really just to prevent those extreme swings between being deeply depressed or manic, and instead help you land somewhere in a healthy middle ground that actually aligns with the world around you.

It is actually possible to maintain control over hallucinations. Even Tesla experienced vivid visions during his childhood, and later on, he could visualize his entire machinery in his mind's eye without ever needing to sketch it out on paper—though, of course, he had to draw them eventually just so others could help him build them. While experiencing accelerated thought processes or feeling like you're losing touch with a slower version of reality can be a bit more unsettling, it is something a person can learn to manage. (That being said, I’m definitely not suggesting that anyone—including you—should suddenly stop taking their medication and just dive headfirst into a psychotic break.)

Harold Anderson3 said:I wouldn't call that the core issue. The real struggle is when your thought processes accelerate so much that you basically lose your grip on reality. Then there are the hallucinations to deal with—that feeling where you can't trust your own senses anymore because you aren't sure if what you're hearing is actually happening or if it's just playing tricks on you inside your head. Medication helps by slowing those brain processes back down to a more manageable level.
On top of that, a heavy bout of depression usually follows a psychotic episode, and apparently, medication helps there too, by helping to stabilize your mental state. The goal is really just to prevent those extreme swings between being deeply depressed or manic, and instead help you land somewhere in a healthy middle ground that actually aligns with the world around you.

So, one class of medication to lift you up, and another to bring you back down? In theory, that sounds like a perfect plan, but in practice, finding that sweet spot is incredibly tough. It makes me wonder—is there anything in life that can truly spark genuine joy without turning into an all-consuming obsession?
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Harold Anderson3 said:To be honest, I don’t really view myself as being fundamentally different or broken compared to everyone else.
The real issue is just how I navigate social situations. I don't actually enjoy being alone, yet I always feel so out of place when I'm around people, so I usually end up retreating into my own space anyway.
People have gone out of their way to tell me that I come across as stuck-up or indifferent, or something along those lines.
But in reality, I’m just trying to manage my own depression and anxiety.

As for my diagnosis, well, it is what it is. To be fair, the feeling during psychosis is actually quite pleasant—it’s almost like being on something illegal. In those moments, neither the depression nor the anxiety is present, and I even feel this strange sense of superiority over others. But of course, it's an illusion, just as my current depression feels fake right now because, objectively speaking, things aren't even that bad. It's just that the good high wears off so much faster than the depression, which can drag on forever...
I’m not sure how much you all can truly relate, but I’m doing my best to put words to what I'm going through.
For instance, if I'm currently in a mild depressive slump where my emotions feel muted, even tasks like writing become a struggle—sort of like hitting a wall where everything feels forced.

P.s. I recently finished reading The Power of Now, which isn't a bad read at all, nor was its follow-up, New World.
If I had to pick my favorites from similar books, I'd say The Way of Less Resistance is the best, along with its sequel A Step Further on the Way of Less Resistance.

So what's the downside of the psychosis then? You feel good, so why is that considered a bad thing?
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Amanda Robinson4 said:It really just comes down to perspective—how you choose to view every single obstacle... Even if some messy stuff from your childhood or a sudden setback later on causes real trauma, the real question is why we let those moments define who we are today.

I’ve noticed (especially when dealing with depression) that we tend to cling to these old ghosts from our past. They hang around in our present even when there's absolutely no reason for them to be there... they aren't even directly tied to where we are in life right now.

If you ask me, we just need to accept things for what they are, stop judging everything, and move on to something else entirely.

Now, obviously, nobody can just snap their fingers and fix it all alone. For me personally, reading The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle was a total game-changer.

That said, you don't have to follow every single thing blindly like a fanatic! You just gotta read and explore until you find what actually works for you. Honestly, anything that helps is good... I'm just sharing what worked for me!

I think it's because we've gotten used to carrying them around, almost accepting them as part of our own limitations. Stepping outside of those boundaries is scary because suddenly you're standing on unfamiliar ground. At least, that’s my take on it.
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Harold Anderson3 said:Fair enough. I spent about two years in psychoanalysis with this wonderful doctor who's retired now. But get this: she never even brought up schizophrenia as a possibility for me; instead, she was essentially misdiagnosing me with depression. So, the whole process didn't really "cure" anything for me. In fact, digging through the past actually ended up hurting my relationship with my father and stepmother, who were the ones who raised me since my mom was sick and the court gave custody to my dad after the divorce.
My mom never remarried; she just sort of withdrew from the world.

I wish I had my own family too, but that feels like a Hollywood movie script if it ever actually happens. I honestly have no idea how I'm supposed to build a life given the limitations I'm dealing with.
I was always a reserved kid, though an intelligent one.
It didn't bother me much back then; I was perfectly happy living in my "own little world" and staying tucked away in my shell.
The trouble started when I realized I couldn't live like that forever and wanted to be able to function like everyone else. I just found myself craving socialization, but it just wouldn't happen.
And that's when the psychology, the psychiatry... the whole cycle began.

There are all these online courses and certifications out there, and you can even get legitimate degrees through them. But even that requires money. Yeah, damn it, everything comes down to the money. 😢

To be honest, after ten years of studying, I can't even bring myself to pick up a newspaper anymore. 🤣
Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, but I don't think I could handle more schooling if my life depended on it; academia just isn't my calling.

To be honest, I'm a little skeptical about your diagnosis. I've met plenty of people living with schizophrenia, and I post about that topic here from time to time, but you don't really strike me as someone in that boat. Sometimes treating depression—whether it's meds, therapy, or something else—can trigger psychotic or manic episodes, which usually leads to a bipolar diagnosis. But whatever, it's all just paperwork in the end.

Have you ever looked into systemic therapy or family constellation work?
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darksurfer4 said:So, does that mean there’s actually some truth to the idea that people who are naturally gifted in math and physics are more likely to end up dealing with schizophrenia?

Just look at Pavun. 😁
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Harold Anderson3 said:Thanks for that.
It’s funny how so many people understand the world around them much better than they understand themselves.
Self-awareness usually comes later; we're born focusing on our surroundings first, and then we gradually become aware of who we are as time passes.
Even though it feels like we need to figure ourselves out before we can grasp the world, it doesn't really work that way. It's more like those two processes should be running side-by-side, happening simultaneously.
The forum can definitely help, but I really do need professional therapy; I don't want to suffocate the users here, or my friends, or anyone else in my life, by dumping all my problems on them 🤣 and even if they wanted to listen, there isn't much I could do to help them anyway.

Regarding the science stuff, math always came naturally to me; I never had to struggle too hard and I could solve almost any problem. I even used to compete in math meets. Later on, physics came along, and I found that even easier.
But then illness took its toll, and that talent just sort of evaporated. College is a massive step up from high school, and I just couldn't push my abilities forward no matter how hard I tried. If anything, I’d say I "weakened" compared to how I was in high school, especially back in middle school. It sucks...
Well, I did manage to pass physics at the local community college with an A, so there's a little bit of that old spark left, but that wasn't nearly as tough as the physics at MIT, let alone what they teach at a top-tier research university.

I'm fully aware that a complete recovery might not be possible.
I know what I want to get out of life, but there's no guarantee I'll feel satisfied even if I achieve it.
You should always try to be content with what you have while still striving for something better at the same time. But dissatisfaction and depression aren't the same thing. It's easy to dream things up, but much harder to make them a reality.
To start with, it would be good to just find a decent-paying job, and then we'll see where things go from there.
My brother is getting married in two weeks, so after the wedding festivities, I'm planning to head to Washington, D.C. I already have a few ideas about what my next steps should be.

In the beginning, there isn't really any ego involved. You’re just one with everything around you, and it’s only natural that your first instinct is to observe your surroundings. After all, your survival depends on it. It's only once you reach a certain level of comfort—when you aren't constantly worrying about where your next meal is coming from—that true self-awareness starts to kick in. Once you realize you can actually take care of yourself, and maybe even start shaping the world around you, that's when you truly begin to find yourself.

Harold Anderson3 said:Thanks for that.
It’s funny how so many people understand the world around them much better than they understand themselves.
Self-awareness usually comes later; we're born focusing on our surroundings first, and then we gradually become aware of who we are as time passes.
Even though it feels like we need to figure ourselves out before we can grasp the world, it doesn't really work that way. It's more like those two processes should be running side-by-side, happening simultaneously.
The forum can definitely help, but I really do need professional therapy; I don't want to suffocate the users here, or my friends, or anyone else in my life, by dumping all my problems on them 🤣 and even if they wanted to listen, there isn't much I could do to help them anyway.

Regarding the science stuff, math always came naturally to me; I never had to struggle too hard and I could solve almost any problem. I even used to compete in math meets. Later on, physics came along, and I found that even easier.
But then illness took its toll, and that talent just sort of evaporated. College is a massive step up from high school, and I just couldn't push my abilities forward no matter how hard I tried. If anything, I’d say I "weakened" compared to how I was in high school, especially back in middle school. It sucks...
Well, I did manage to pass physics at the local community college with an A, so there's a little bit of that old spark left, but that wasn't nearly as tough as the physics at MIT, let alone what they teach at a top-tier research university.

I'm fully aware that a complete recovery might not be possible.
I know what I want to get out of life, but there's no guarantee I'll feel satisfied even if I achieve it.
You should always try to be content with what you have while still striving for something better at the same time. But dissatisfaction and depression aren't the same thing. It's easy to dream things up, but much harder to make them a reality.
To start with, it would be good to just find a decent-paying job, and then we'll see where things go from there.
My brother is getting married in two weeks, so after the wedding festivities, I'm planning to head to Washington, D.C. I already have a few ideas about what my next steps should be.

Honestly, I don't get this obsession with policing what people post on this forum. If you aren't interested in reading someone else's story, then just scroll past—it’s that simple. For me, being able to type out my thoughts here has actually done more for my mental health than any psychotherapy sessions ever did. Maybe I just ran into a total fraud of a therapist, or maybe I'm just not built for that kind of traditional setup; who knows? Regardless, it worked for others. My advice? Until you have enough money saved up to pay a decent private specialist, just vent here. Some people come on here whining about nothing more than their own boredom or minor hypochondria, acting like they have some massive crisis when they really don't. And now we're supposed to stay quiet just to be "respectful" to potential readers? Give me a break. 🤣

Harold Anderson3 said:Thanks for that.
It’s funny how so many people understand the world around them much better than they understand themselves.
Self-awareness usually comes later; we're born focusing on our surroundings first, and then we gradually become aware of who we are as time passes.
Even though it feels like we need to figure ourselves out before we can grasp the world, it doesn't really work that way. It's more like those two processes should be running side-by-side, happening simultaneously.
The forum can definitely help, but I really do need professional therapy; I don't want to suffocate the users here, or my friends, or anyone else in my life, by dumping all my problems on them 🤣 and even if they wanted to listen, there isn't much I could do to help them anyway.

Regarding the science stuff, math always came naturally to me; I never had to struggle too hard and I could solve almost any problem. I even used to compete in math meets. Later on, physics came along, and I found that even easier.
But then illness took its toll, and that talent just sort of evaporated. College is a massive step up from high school, and I just couldn't push my abilities forward no matter how hard I tried. If anything, I’d say I "weakened" compared to how I was in high school, especially back in middle school. It sucks...
Well, I did manage to pass physics at the local community college with an A, so there's a little bit of that old spark left, but that wasn't nearly as tough as the physics at MIT, let alone what they teach at a top-tier research university.

I'm fully aware that a complete recovery might not be possible.
I know what I want to get out of life, but there's no guarantee I'll feel satisfied even if I achieve it.
You should always try to be content with what you have while still striving for something better at the same time. But dissatisfaction and depression aren't the same thing. It's easy to dream things up, but much harder to make them a reality.
To start with, it would be good to just find a decent-paying job, and then we'll see where things go from there.
My brother is getting married in two weeks, so after the wedding festivities, I'm planning to head to Washington, D.C. I already have a few ideas about what my next steps should be.

There are all these online courses out there for this and that—you can even earn legitimate certifications if you want. But honestly, everything comes down to the money. It’s expensive, and let’s be real, it’s always about the cash. 😢
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Harold Anderson3 said:I mean, sure, most of those jobs are about as straightforward as they come—you just roll up your sleeves and, like you said, learn the ropes... so why not just go for it?🙂

Physical labor is actually great; it really helps clear your head. Honestly, I’d probably recommend "shovel therapy" to most people on this forum. 🤣

As far as talking things out goes, until you find a solid therapist, try venting here. You’ve written some truly brilliant posts in other sections of the forum, and if you could somehow take that same intelligence you used when discussing physics and religion and turn it inward to explore yourself, I think we could all learn a lot from you.
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Thanks for the shipment... we'll always have AMC Daruvar. 🙂