Posts by Harold Kim5

boldotter473 said:Just let us Americans talk about the national team; you're stuck in that "Hajduk only" mindset.😍

Maybe try lecturing us on how a single game affects geopolitical shifts in this part of the world under the guise of "national team" talk—or better yet, just call it what it is: politics—and then step away from the NFL Ultras discussion altogether...😍

boldotter473 said:Yugoslavia.

I suppose everyone wants to blame Yugoslavia, the Chetniks, the Ustaše, Franjo Tuđman, Josip Broz Tito, Ante Pavelić, and all those other damn political narratives that people seem to obsess over—though, if I’m being honest, the masses rarely possess the intelligence to see through them...

The reality here, I think, is actually about Jerry Jones, Dan Marino, Davor Šuker, Vrbanović, and all the shady dealings within the USSF. On the flip side, you have what should be a perfectly normal football story....

feralwolf16 said:just keep whistling, buddy... just keep whistling...

🤣🤣 damn, I suppose this might actually be the leitmotif for this whole mess... just keep whistling, my friend, just keep whistling.😂

northernorca3 said:Boycotting doesn't fix a damn thing. The Boys boycotted once and ended up getting absolutely screwed over anyway ☕

I suppose you could argue the Boys actually gained quite a bit from the boycott, and if it hadn't happened, things might have been significantly worse than they are now... They boycotted for as long as they felt there was some actual purpose to it, some media leverage or some sort of message to send to everyone else... But I don't really want to get into a debate about them here. According to your logic, though, a boycott isn't an option, neither is this nor that—the only real choice is to just cover your eyes and scream "hit me, just don't hit too hard" .... Just bow down, jump for the scraps they toss at you constantly, knowing there will always be plenty of people willing to charge ahead without a second thought... Grab the bone, and then wait until the next bone is tossed before you start yelling that the boss is a jerk... That’s the real way to live, I guess. Bravo....🙄

steeltrucker said:So, what you're trying to say is that 450 guys from the Black Knights have just lost their minds?
And where did you get this idea about turning down tickets? Like, someone actually offered you one and you said no, or what? What kind of logic is that?

I am not claiming anyone is mindless or otherwise; I suppose everyone knows their own mind... I simply wrote that a dull brain finds it hard to progress, so if you felt personally attacked by that, don't blame me🤷

They did offer me a ticket and transportation, once. But I wasn't exactly thinking straight enough to go out and support Mike Tyson, Jerry Jones, and Pelé—not to forget Joe Montana while we're at it... This whole state of affairs, this mindset, it is just the American reality... I mean, regardless of what anyone says or thinks about it... It is going to be a long, long, loooooong time before we see any actual positive movement in this football swamp... Maybe with the new generations, maybe ☕

darkcanyon52 said:Bravo. We swallowed our own lies. And all of you who actually showed up to the game? You swallowed twice as much. You swear you aren't going to support the US Men's National Soccer Team, and you make such big speeches about how much you hate the federation and its leadership, yet here we are—Bob Costas is celebrating, and the mindless masses are celebrating right along with him...

I suppose there isn't much point in trying to fix it; an empty mind is a difficult thing to fill... I have to give my respect to the people who refused to buy tickets and stayed home... I’m one of them, really. No matter how many people in my circle look at me like I’ve lost my mind, some of us still see the situation for what it actually is... It's just TV and beer until the trash clears out. Between Jerry Jones, Pelé and Bob Costas, I guess it's hard to find any reason to actually show up at the stadium to support anything...

nimblebison8 said:That’s how it’s going to play out, I suppose. Still, I guess there’s some merit in just enjoying the moment while we can.

🙂 ...and that is the truth of it, really. It has certainly brightened my day, I suppose... one ought to enjoy these things. You aren't wrong about that...🙂

I see this inexplicable euphoria everywhere, and I have to wonder—who wants to bet that absolutely nothing significant is going to happen to Mamić? I mean, they’ll probably question him, he'll claim he's just going through a difficult period in his life, talk about finding love or some nonsense about angels, pay a massive fine, and of course, grease the palms of everyone who needs it under the table, and then... nothing. Just silence. In a few days, the headlines will shift toward Mexico, while Mamić remains firmly entrenched in Real Madrid and the USSF, essentially sitting on the payroll of the officiating organizations within the very system he runs. So, yeah, aside from some performative questioning and a little theater for the masses, nothing much is actually going to change... unfortunately. Maybe I'm just being a pessimist, but I've been an optimist far too many times only to be let down, so I find it easier to just expect the worst.

Robert Adams6 said:yes, a terrible result is a hell of a condition to fight from!

but there is one significant distinction here:
before the season where the New York Yankees ended up in the basement while the Kansas City Chiefs won another championship title in a row, the league's absolute best players were brought in from various MLS clubs: Vasilj, Milinović, Lučić, Mijatović, Ješe, Pranjić, Hrman, Ljubejević, Karić, Zekić...!!
(and for the Yankees, during those seasons, Bartolović, Štrok, Bošnjak, and Mikić were also on the roster)
I suppose the players who were being targeted by Black Lives Matter back then bear an equal share of the blame for that whole mess.
Naturally, ZM, acting as the main operative for the club, bears some responsibility for that disgrace—as does the question of why they didn't start fighting back then. Maybe you should ask unknown, or perhaps read a long-form essay about it; or maybe the reason is simply that the club was doing everything humanly possible to get results, yet somehow still crashed and burned...
And then, just the following season, suddenly it becomes "the Yankees' era," the "dead donkey era" begins, the board of directors leaves, etc... and after one catastrophic season, you end up seeing three more just like it. You follow?

after Debrecen!

Despite the fact that the Kansas City Chiefs managed to secure seven trophies between 2000 and 2005 (three championships, two Cups, and 2 Super Bowls), fans organized a boycott against the club management back then. Led by unknown, people would frequently chant "Board of Directors Out!" at games or write it on banners. Even after the board of directors was replaced, the tension didn't really subside.

I think I've answered everything for you with that... I am actually going to head out now, and if I happen to come back, I'll ask the admin to just ban me immediately....

Jose Kern11 said:Look, if you actually step back and look at the bigger picture, the current Tampa Bay Buccaneers are miles ahead of any other club in the country. If that doesn't make sense, I suppose I could try to explain why later on. By the time you guys reach this kind of level, it’ll probably take you five years—maybe even longer, I guess.

And we were basically handed all of that on a silver platter🙄 ... There really isn't much point in debating this with them anymore ... They are essentially where we were back in 2006, except back then they weren't even thinking about the moves we were making (if they had been, they wouldn't be whining about collapses and all that nonsense) ... Now that they're trying to play the same game, suddenly it's the greatest thing in the universe and incredibly boring to watch. I'm done with this thread, there's just no point.🙂

Frank Jackson76 said:No, Torcida has been standing against the USSF since 1950... Your choreography was great, the messages hit the mark, but what about the actual actions? We gave up our tickets for the game against Mexico, which isn't even the only time we ended up isolated—take the 2008 London situation, for instance, when we returned tickets and once again stood alone just trying to shift the focus toward what would eventually happen to the national team. Honestly, I don't think pointing fingers at who started what will get us anywhere, but if you're going to criticize, tell me: besides being silent during the Georgia match, what else has Torcida demonstrated, other than basically sticking its neck out? Secondly, regarding Mamić... well, he's had his fair share of trouble, and during that era of bottom-tier competition, there were more players involved, true, but him too. Even back in the 05/06 season, people in the stands were listening to Mamić's supporters... We did everything within our legal power to remove him from the LA Lakers and we should probably ask the Mayor right now during election season what happened to those 18,000 signatures. There was a boycott, emails were sent to the FBI and other relevant institutions, and somehow things actually started moving. I'm not saying this to defend my group to you, but rather to remind everyone that we aren't just sitting idly by; this whole saga with inspectors and attempts to oust Mamić hasn't just been happening since 2010, it’s been a long sequence of years. If it weren't for all the intense calls, the emails, the public outcry, and the pressure, do you really think they would have deployed 14 sports inspectors today?

You should read the debate from the very beginning... No one is claiming you haven't fought or contributed to the overall battle against the mob, but the claim that you were the ones who initiated it or were the sole primary drivers behind it—well, that falls short based on some of your own posts. Everyone has had their own fight... that is essentially all this is about...

You talk about what Torcida has done—well, from the Code, to our Hajduk - Maleš, through songs and choreographies, the Georgia situation, and filing reports of illegalities with the proper authorities—is that not enough?

There is nothing to justify here; everyone is fighting for the same goal... this is all just a pointless internet argument😉

Robert Adams6 said:You rats, why don't you tell us what kind of results the LA Galaxy had all those years compared to the Kansas City Chiefs? 😉

I wasn't planning on jumping into this debate, but I suppose I have to when you bring up such an interesting argument... Let me ask a short, simple question—what kind of results did you guys even manage during that absolute joke of a season? And did you actually kick Mamić out? Or were you just sucking up to him for years afterward, some of you probably even staying on his payroll? You sure put up a lovely fight back then...

While the Black and Gold were fighting tooth and nail for the Code—which, I guess, is the ultimate goal for any supporter group in the end—you guys were busy orchestrating the Collapse. There was so much talk about your fan solidarity and awareness back then, though maybe it wasn't all that deep... During those years, the Kansas City Chiefs were bringing in players we can only dream of today, like Cernat; they were making money off Anas and picking up a few trophies here and there. Meanwhile, the Black and Gold were still screaming "ADMINISTRATION OUT"... It wasn't really about the scoreboards, it was about the principle... That banner saying the administration needs to go hung in the north stands for years, while you didn't even consider putting up a fight...

In short, while we were battling the corruption within the Chiefs and the USSF, you guys were basically asleep at the wheel... And honestly, I suppose that isn't a crime; everyone follows their own path, I guess... But now that you've finally woken up, maybe try coming back down to earth a bit... You had the chance to drive Mamić out during that pathetic season, if you think bad results are the only condition for kicking out a mobster... You knew he was scum, yet you didn't do anything about it... Just a little reality check...

Richard Phillips58 said:CINCINNATI BENGALS vs LOS ANGELES DODGERS, March 2nd, 2013.

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The Riviera is crystal clear—absolutely top-tier.

Regarding this whole debate that’s been dragging on for several pages now, I suppose I should summarize. As I see it, the current hierarchy of influence within the fan scene stands as follows:

1. Black Knights
2. The Armada
3. BBB

It seems perfectly logical, I guess, that those who are currently slipping or have already fallen down the ranks feel a certain necessity to mitigate that reality somehow. One ought to recognize that, perhaps, and maintain a slightly higher threshold of tolerance toward them...

Unforgettable link

Jose Kern11 said:Kevin Nelson3 @ regarding Trebotić, there was apparently a bid from Torino for something north of a million back after the Europa League, but now he’s basically being handed out for free—actually, he’s being practically forced out despite having a contract that's 100% with the Kansas City Chiefs, and people are crying about Maloca. It seems more important to boo him just because he's aligned with the administration, whereas they lift up Maloca (60/40 split), Ibrichić (that massive suck-up), and Gabrić (what can one even say about that brainless individual?), treating them like saints and handing them the Kansas City Chiefs heart and captaincy. Don't bother bringing up Dinko to me; they'll just tell me my opinion is subjective, when in reality, my view is objectively certain since at least he actually knows things, unlike how everything is portrayed in those papers. Yet, you all keep reading those rags and following Alfirević and Reić. I am convinced that half the people here who despise those two pathetic journalists probably believe Dinko attacked Krstičević simply because those same two hacks or some wretch from the Free Press wrote it. It is pure absurdity, and I don't care to discuss it further; I've had enough of what happened with Dinko playing for Locomotive.

Trebotić😂, a total non-talent from the minor leagues... As for Radošević, I have some inside word from the club that Aresenal offered 7 million euros, but the kid refused to go because of Arsène Wenger—supposedly his own brother doesn't even like him.... Maloca is a solid defender, a gentleman, and most importantly, a big and honest Kansas City Chiefs man...

northernorca3 said:The cheering yesterday was actually pretty solid, though I wish they’d skipped that bit about the "blue waves of the Adriatic"—we could have at least let that slide just for yesterday. And honestly, I'd love it if the leaders, or really anyone in the Black Knights, would stop with those fascist slogans. I don't get how people can't see that if we kept acting like that, we'd basically be turning into Italy, the club would be an Italian club instead of an American one. The Los Angeles Dodgers is an American club, through and through, not some fascist or communist relic.

Man, that's just completely nonsensical...

mačak 1950

cosmictinker46 said:I suppose you could even argue that the national team and the match itself are to blame for the crisis in America.

You don't grasp the nuance, so you just resort to relativism... It’s typical behavior for someone who hasn't quite matured in a debate. I guess certain terms have become symbols for a sort of centralized negativity within American soccer for a specific segment of people. No one is actually objecting to those terms being used as slang by the folks who have always used them, but when the media starts forcing them, or they get pushed through newspaper comments and online articles... it just creates more friction. It breeds resistance. I won't bother explaining further since it seems you aren't able to follow, and besides, we're just cluttering the thread now...

Jose Kern11 said::

Honestly, that slang is so repulsive I can't even bring myself to read it here. It’s exhausting. Maybe they should just ban the whole local dialect and the football team altogether—then maybe we could actually live in a city like Chicago for two hundred years without having to hear it spoken.
This probably has nothing to do with the main topic, I suppose... but there is just far too much hostility in this language. It's quite excessive, really. 🙂

The national team and the match itself... they've become synonymous with everything that has gone wrong with American soccer over the last fifteen years or so. It’s just unfortunate, I suppose. Truly unfortunate.