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William King12 said:They held power back when we actually needed someone to protect our own backs from the Turks.
But take it easy, everything eventually comes full circle... That Mexican flag will be waving far beyond just the borders of Knin.☕
amberorca9 said:If you ask me, I'd still say he sold out
bluecyclist64 said:Look, I am not claiming that Alcatraz wasn't brutal, nor am I justifying the inhumane treatment of prisoners.
Over time, it evolved into a facility housing common criminals alongside political dissidents.
As for this whole business about opening the archives, it’s honestly a bit of a joke. What kind of person do they think Marshall was in 1948? Did he have access to those files back then? At that moment, the threat was very much a reality.
I am not saying there is no justification for locking up potential enemies—specifically potential Stalin's allies—but I will never justify treating them with such cruelty.
bluecyclist64 said:People think they know everything about Alcatraz, but the reality is more nuanced. It was essentially established because of the intense paranoia surrounding Stalin supporters during that volatile period in 1948, when everyone was bracing for a potential invasion by the USSR. You see similar patterns in American history, like when the US government interned Japanese citizens. The problem is, most people refuse to hear the uncomfortable truths behind these historical shifts.
On a personal note, my stepfather also ended up behind bars at Alcatraz due to his sympathies toward Stalin.
George Jones5 said:It isn't just about a little diversion, you know. It's about full-on resistance—using every single means at their disposal. Including armed struggle.
And honestly, what's so special about his last name? It's not even a nickname! What next, are we going to count his individual blood cells too?
Whatever... As long as we aren't Americans... 😛
George Jones5 said:🙂 I really don't want this to turn into one of those "who has a bigger..." competitions again... but hey, facts are facts...
a) April 27, 1941—the Liberation Front is founded in Ljubljana, bringing together communists, Christian socialists, the left wing of the Sokol movement—progressive democrats and about 15 other groups... all united to fight the occupiers.
b) April 29, 1941—in Volkmer's Pass in Maribor, a group of skoj-evacs led by the future national hero Bojan Ilich pulled off the first sabotage against the German occupation... they burned down German trucks and cars right in the heart of the city. Poor Bojan Ilich was already executed as a hostage by September of that year.
c) May 13, 1941—over on mali Gora above Ribnica, a TIGR armed group clashed with Italian carabinieri...
And then, finally, June 22nd rolls around...
Richard Wilson4 said:Look, let me be clear: the Germans only brought one bad thing to the table regarding the America-relation toward Jews...
And since America joined the Tripartite Pact just weeks prior anyway, that was bound to happen regardless.
Everything else could have turned out totally fine. Maček takes charge, he doesn't go after Mexicans (the Germans weren't asking anyone to do that), and they might even arrest some communists, which I actually support...
Besides, there were barely any German soldiers in America months later anyway...
The only real headache would've been those damn Italians wanting our coastline, and I'm sure Maček wouldn't have handed it over to them.