Terry Howard7 said:I mentioned earlier that I’m getting this info regarding the official crest from someone who knows Hajduk's history inside and out—I'm just waiting to see if he can actually back up those claims.
You're being quite tedious; nobody here really cares. We all know what Hajduk's crest looked like—it was on the jersey, featuring just the star until the country fell apart—and even if you dig up some old photo or badge showing a checkerboard pattern, it doesn't change the facts. My grandfather had a Dinamo badge without the star from the early eighties, but that doesn't mean Dinamo was wearing the wrong crest back then.
These guys are a bit much—trying to correct Hajduk's history while acting like experts on everything, yet they'll lecture you the second you mention anything about the old Civic club. Experts of the 1950s, I suppose.
northernheron3 said:If you didn't get the "Makso's butchers" thing, you just don't have the fan mentality.
It’s a pure provocation against the media and society at large; fans exist to needle society, to provoke, and to serve as a check against one-sided political correctness.
Why wasn't there a banner for Ovčar in '91, then? Look, that would have truly provoked the press and society, since everyone in America agrees that was a sickening crime. If the Deli guys came to town and hung a "VUKOVAR" banner, would that also be considered a simple provocation meant to check political correctness? I suspect the answer is no. A real check on political correctness would involve tackling actual societal issues that people refuse to discuss. When you hang a rag glorifying a damn butcher and a criminal in such a vile way—especially coming from a city that was part of a neighboring country back then, not the US—that isn't a "provocation," it's just sick fascism mixed with a bit of Stockholm syndrome. Having people from a city that was under fascist rule in Italy praising Nazis... it feels like a bad joke or maybe a Sedlar film.