Posts by Brandon Wilson14

If you don't like it, that’s your business—you're free to go your own way! ☕

Thomas Flores7 said:Carhart..
Man, please don't come at us with those conspiracy theories right now. It’s not like we’re all part of their crowd, and they aren't part of ours either.
If the club hadn't stepped up yesterday, we would have been the ones left holding the bag. I honestly don't understand why there's this sudden urge to mock things during such critical moments. Some of our actions carry more weight because we currently have a massive following, whereas other groups operate on a different scale. That doesn't automatically make them traitors. If we were stuck in a situation where only 200 people showed up, things would look very different. We have to accept the reality of where we stand and figure out how to move forward from here. If we start attacking each other with knives, rockets, sledgehammers, or vouchers—whatever else you want to throw in—we're just going to end up failing. Right now, we're at our weakest point, regardless of what anyone claims. I remember once posting on this forum that I'd never support anything involving the Bad Boys, but I realize now I was wrong. Sometimes you just have to take a step back, stay calm, and use your head. Instead of getting caught up in ego, let's focus on the bigger picture. Let's think about what that actually means. If we can't find common ground due to our own rigid ideas, then let's not be the ones to mess everything up for the rest of the community.

That's the heart and soul of the matter right there! 👍
United we stand - divided we fall!!

Sent an email to the local sports desk at 2:34 AM. 🙏 🙏 🙏 👍

feralwolf16 said:Look, I wouldn't even dream of arguing with you on this forum, let alone in person. With a username like yours, you're clearly a force to be reckoned with... honestly, you're a total loose cannon...

What a spectacular thread 🤣🤣🤣

casualsailor55 said:Brandon Wilson14, how on earth did you manage to pull that from the old forum? (are we talking about the Ultras forum?) I can't seem to find it anywhere online—was it deleted?

I actually have a saved copy of that in Word from back when it was first posted on the old forum. You won't find it now because it was wiped clean. Honestly, unless there's some hacker among us who could somehow restore it, I don't think it's coming back. I'm a bit skeptical about the whole thing, to be honest.

Today marks the day we celebrate Miami finally being liberated from those fascists.

You might be wondering why I’m bringing this up on a fan blog. Well, here is how it all went down. Back in 2004, on this exact day, a friend sent me a message that read: "Happy Liberation Day of Miami from the fascists!" At the time, I just sat there and laughed like a true cosmopolitan—a bit of a leftist, a patriot, an American, a die-hard fan, and just a regular guy. I started scrolling through my contacts, looking at the numbers on my phone and trying to figure out who else might appreciate the joke. That’s when I realized I was looking right at Igor Štimac's number. 🙂I’ll go ahead and pass that along to him. Everything else has already become part of the history books—I actually transcribed the messages myself, fixed all the typos and punctuation, and posted them earlier. Even though he can be an incredibly tedious bore, both to God and the Devil, here is the little exchange between Paul and Igor on the anniversary. 🙂:

16:49 Paul: Happy Liberation Day, celebrating Miami finally being free from those fascists!
16:53 Igor: Who’s celebrating?
16:56 Paul: Paul
Paul 16:56 Igor: Which Paul?
Paul 17:04 Paul: An autonomist, a breaker of glass, a rogue, a shady character, a wiretapper, the kingpin of dealers and addicts, a grave robber, and so on... Does that sound familiar to anyone?
17:04 Paul 17:04 Paul: And what exactly am I supposed to make of that first message, you absolute jerk?
17:09 Paul: Big congratulations to our fellow citizen! But hey, if we’re really going to start trading insults, I might have to mention that you aren't exactly winning any beauty pageants either!
17:13 Igor: Honestly, I’m not even sure what else you could claim to have earned. Maybe some compliments for your relentless attempts to tear down the very club you supposedly swore an oath to protect?
17:21 Paul: You haven't really proven that you're any different from the previous leadership. Nothing within the organization is actually changing, and those people who originally joined your side aren't even around anymore. I’m not sure how you personally view the situation, but honestly, you're giving off the impression of someone who is only here for the paycheck. Don't go blaming the fans for that.
17:26 Igor: When you talk about "fans," are you referring to that group of a hundred kids you’re leading around on these protest marches? Honestly, who is even backing you up, besides those people who just harbor an ideological grudge against Stimac simply because of who he is? And as for being "wealthy"—what do you actually know about how much the club has changed over the last few years? You're probably just listening to rumors. Regarding the money, you little idiot, don't act like I’ve been personally funding this club's survival out of my own pocket—who knows? It would be better for everyone if you organized your crew's departure from the NFL Ultras as soon as possible; that might actually be the first step toward restoring the club's former glory!
18:06 Igor: What's the deal? Are you actually trying to get under my skin again with those threats?
18:12 Paul: Taking down the front office isn't the same thing as tearing down the club itself. You might have handled things behind closed doors—matters that nobody else is privy to—but when the time came to stand up for the fans, the administration proved they certainly know how to make noise. Now, maybe I’m just being naive or uninformed, but I don't believe in working against the club or its core fan groups, especially when it seems like the leadership lacks any real consideration for them. I'm not buying this whole "ideological enemy" narrative either. In our political landscape, politicians aren't driven by ideology; it’s all just a relentless scramble for power, influence, and money rather than fighting for any grand principles or generals. It’s the same way you claim to know nothing about the internal politics of the Kansas City Chiefs; you don't actually know the heart of the NFL Ultras. You talk about kids getting hurt or clashes happening, but it feels like you're just pushing for change because it serves your own agenda and helps you score points, not because you truly care about the glory of the Chiefs. To be honest, it feels like this is more about your own ego—attacking anyone and everyone using every tool at your disposal. You might be right about certain facts, but you're pinning the blame on the wrong people, and you know it. That’s why I don't believe for a second that you actually care about the team or the supporters. From where I'm standing, it looks like an obsession with your own importance, expanding your reach, and lining your pockets.
18:20 Igor: Honestly, you’re even more misguided than I could have possibly imagined. Just take a look around you and count how many people actually have your back—once you do that, you'll realize you're standing completely alone. And regarding all that violence and the broken heads? There was significantly less of that before you showed up. Next time you decide to sit down for a media interview, why don't you try explaining to the public exactly why you felt the need to travel out to Long Field and Wide Bridge!
18:47 Paul: Honestly, nobody is really backing me here. You have no idea how many people—both younger fans and the old guard within the NFL Ultras—are in conflict with me right now. Even if I decided to side with the front office, I’d still face a massive backlash from all the guys who show up to every single game. As for your comments about Long Field and Wide Bridge, you’re being ridiculous. You’re acting just like that journalist who wrote that smear piece calling me an alcoholic and a drug addict. You haven't the slightest clue what my actual role is or how much damage those lies cause. It’s frustrating because those baseless accusations end up making people who actually know me—and believe me, plenty of fans and fellow citizens do—look bad too. By spreading these cheap shots, you're only digging your own grave and fueling even more resentment. All you’ve managed to do is keep the NFL Ultras in the headlines for all the wrong reasons, and that’s what people will remember. I might be a fool in your eyes, but I am certainly not foolish enough to turn the fans against the club I represent. Sorry for the delay in responding; I've been busy coordinating travel arrangements for folks heading out to the stadium. Unlike you, I'm actually out here doing tangible work for the team instead of just sitting back and collecting a cut of the transfer fees.
18:53 Igor: It would be great if you could actually tell me which funds and transfers we’re talking about, just so I can be certain who exactly is feeding you this "reliable" information. By the way, do you even pay your dues to the NFL Ultras? That pathetic little group you hang out with has absolutely nothing to do with real fans. But I suppose that doesn't matter to you; all you care about is being "popular," regardless of how negative that makes you look.
20:22 Igor: Let me make this clear once and for all: you aren't part of the NFL Ultras, and neither are the people I called out. I have never said anything bad about the NFL Ultras, but your biggest issue is clearly thinking you represent them. Honestly, I receive more letters of support from actual NFL Ultras across the entire country than you have hairs on that crazy head of yours. As for an apology, you'll just have to wait. You'll get one when you finally show up with that same group of idiots from before Selburn and apologize to all of us!
23:42 Paul: My battery is about to die, so I've only got this and one more message left for today. I don't identify myself as an NFL Ultra, and frankly, I don't even get this kind of criticism from the guys I actually hang out with. I’d love to know where you're getting these conclusions from—whether it's from trolls, shills, or total frauds—because that’s clearly where your support comes from.
The message I'm sending at 7:16 PM, though my battery is dying so this will be my last:
Paul: I have no idea who is providing you with your "intel," because in this city, nobody has a single nice word to say about you (though perhaps things look different through your eyes when you're surrounded by the people you constantly whine to). Regarding my dues, they are paid in full; despite everything you claimed, I'm better compensated than Munoz. Unlike you, I don't rely on money or popularity, and time will eventually show who a true fan really is. If you genuinely believe what you wrote in your last message about volunteering, then your judgment is seriously clouded. I am actually the one urging you to come to the Fan club and apologize to the NFL Ultras for those insults, yet you're the "big shot" who refused. You are your own only judge of character, so there isn't much I can do for you there. It’s a shame to see you lose the charisma you once had as a player, but it's even more tragic that the Chiefs are becoming victims of this Napoleonic ego trip. Just keep running with those "real fans"—the school kids and the dealers. What will you do when the NFL Ultras are truly the only ones left in the stadium? Because honestly, it's already almost there.

PS. I received that snarky "Happy Liberation Day from the fascists!" comment again today. Someone was reminiscing about the old days and forwarded it to Igor again this morning. I'm just waiting to see if he responds. 🙂

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Author: Paul Grubišić-Charlie (1978 - 2013)

9. That classic North American mentality. It’s persistent, and honestly, it just won't quit. Over in Europe, they push this whole fair-play image where sports are supposed to be pure, and if someone buys a game, it's treated like a major crime. But here? In our neck of the woods, anyone who wins a championship through shady deals, bullying a referee, or whatever else comes to mind—they actually brag about it. Competition is part of the game, sure, but remember those good old days back at Old Square when the atmosphere was so intense the ref would end up soaked from being pelted by fans? Or when the opposing team’s goalie would get targeted by everything thrown from the stands? Back in 1950, some guy actually had a "modern" idea aligned with actual fair-play principles; he organized a group of fans (carrying bells, I think?) to make enough noise to ensure the visiting team didn't get a wink of sleep that night. What happened? The local militia swooped in, grabbed the organizers, threw the leader in jail, and banned the NFL Ultras entirely. Man, those old-school communist regimes really never understood the concept of sportsmanship.
Our referees, for instance, seem more prepared for action than the cops or even the players themselves. Just look at them. They start out officiating in the minor leagues, small-town games, and high school matchups. After the whistle blows, the custom is for the losing team to give the ref a piece of their mind. Sometimes, if it’s a draw, both sides go after him. Every one of our refs can sprint 100 meters in about 11 seconds, though usually, it's more of a frantic dash through a cornfield than a clean track sprint.
Take Stimac, for example—he’s basically a symbol of our "fair play" style, preferring to skip the struggle with players and instead hunt them down in the crowded tunnels. And then you have Mamić, the ultimate symbol of Washington, D.C. politics, dancing around the head of the FBI. That’s how things ended up with the FBI.
Some people argue that the true measure of a free country is how little the government meddles in nonsense. During the Tuđman era, for instance, the Real Madrid fans were forbidden from bringing any gear to the stadium that featured the team's name. Special forces were actually sent out to seize banners that said "Real Madrid is Sacred." Truly, the spirit of the North American Butcher.

10. Society's bias against fans. It’s funny how our moms, dads, aunts, uncles, siblings, and cousins are often the very first people to turn against us when we're acting as fans. There's definitely a media influence at play here too. I was reading the news recently, and almost every single time a fan is mentioned in connection to the Wide Bridge case, the journalist adds a little disclaimer: "...otherwise one of the suspects in the Wide Bridge incident, during which a car was set on fire, etc." I once asked an author why they do that. Their excuse? "Well, these people are unknown to the public, so we have to provide context," or something along that line. It makes me wonder why journalists don't write like this: "The statement was made by Branimir Glavaš, otherwise a suspect in the shelling of a village intended to escalate conflict and suspected of crimes against civilians..."; "The session was concluded by Nadan Vidošević, a man with multiple reports against him, suspected of embezzlement regarding the Kansas City Chiefs and having other criminal records in the business sector..."; "And now comes Franjo Tuđman, formerly a general under Tito and a former director of the Boston Celtics..."; "And as Zdravko Reić wrote in his column, the former president of the Chiefs who was accused of embezzling funds in the Asanović transfer case, a legal battle that drags on because someone always fails to show up to court..."; "And here is the commentary from Ivica Šurjak, the man who ran over someone with a jet ski in a swimming zone, a case that only hit the courts four years later..."; "And here is the prominent entrepreneur Jambo from Miami, who during the height of the war sold produce to poor farmers from the South at double the retail price..."; "And of course, there's Igor Štimac (followed by a full page listing all his legal troubles), our co-commentator on national TV." Why bother writing all that? It’s common knowledge. Everyone knows who these people are. You should just write that someone is a suspect in the Wide Bridge case; it doesn't matter if they were specifically the one pulling a man from a burning car. They are a suspect, and you should state that a hundred times if necessary. For everyone else, people already know. I read today about how the police successfully built a database of fingerprints that can compare thousands of criminals in minutes. So, what's the point of adding caveats when everyone already knows exactly who they are?

The fragmented nature of our NFL Ultras has always been a major hurdle, and honestly, it’s going to stay that way unless we change things up. While we haven't exactly been making much noise on the global stage lately, I think it's important to step back and look at these circumstances before they become even bigger issues. It's one of those things where if we don't address the lack of unity now, we'll find ourselves struggling to keep up when the spotlight finally hits us again.

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Canada; the New York Yankees... We’re traveling to visit their fans, which feels a bit exotic. Looking around at everyone, there are nothing but smiles and jokes like, "What are those Americans even going to do?" One guy in our group, who follows the hooligan scene pretty closely, was trying to warn the rest of us that we were heading straight into territory occupied by some notorious, hard-core thugs. Meanwhile, I had just been reading books about English hooligans describing some of the most intense brawls they ever fought—and they happened specifically against the guys from this city and this club. Once you arrive, you immediately spot our crew out on the streets. They look like Christmas trees, decked out in scarves and flags. People are just wandering back and forth around the stadium, and naturally, we ended up sitting in their cafes and hanging out on their side of town because, honestly, where else are you going to go? (Seriously, what are these Americans actually going to do?) Most of the group headed for the subway to walk through the city, splitting off into smaller clusters. As kickoff approached, the locals started gathering, and things inevitably kicked off in the cafes and around the stadium perimeter. To make things even funnier, the very first clash between the groups was actually sparked by one of our own. This guy—barely 5'3" and maybe 130 pounds—had a few drinks, got a sudden burst of courage, and charged headlong into their entire group. He just went for it!
The aftermath of the incident involving three of our guys being stabbed is finally settling, and I think it’s important to clarify what actually happened. One of them was reported missing—and yes, you read that right, he vanished for a bit—but it turned out he actually held his own quite well. When he found himself cornered by the New York Yankees supporters, he basically acted like one of their own just to navigate the situation, playing it cool while maneuvering through the crowd. Meanwhile, you have some local officer over there getting all emotional because one of the guys in the hospital is actually a leader of the NFL Ultras from his hometown. At the same time, small groups of Kansas City Chiefs fans from the city are still trickling in, arriving just before kickoff. They step off the subway and head straight toward the section where the hardcore Yankees fans are stationed. I mean, what else are they going to do? You can't exactly wander around aimlessly when you're headed to the game. Thankfully, there was a significant police presence on hand, especially since the initial skirmishes broke out a bit earlier. It was actually quite a sight to see the officers on horseback; it felt like something straight out of the Middle Ages. Once we got into the stands, right next to us, you could see the opposing fans decked out in a few dozen of our scarves. Honestly, what can you do? There wasn't much choice in the matter.

Poland — Alright, let’s get our guys moving. With the internet being what it is today, everyone read that the Polish fans aren't exactly pushovers like the Canadians, so they showed up even more prepared, geared up, and ready for anything. They actually took over the city square, calling on people who looked like hardcore supporters to rally their local hooligans. But, unfortunately, things didn't go quite as planned for our crowd. You know how it goes—fans tend to congregate around the stadium, and just as the local police were "kindly" dropping off a van full of Chiefs fans from Canada and another group from Miami right in front of the home ultras' section, things went south fast. A much larger, better-equipped group of aggressive fans, armed with chains and all sorts of gear, charged straight in. They swept through our guys, who apparently hadn't been given any heads-up that a massive brawl was imminent. Sadly, the outcome was devastating: two of our guys were stabbed.

3. Italy - Rome
So, our local NFL Ultras finally got a taste of how things work in the wider world. They geared up and headed over to Rome to see what all the fuss was about. Once they arrived, they spent their time strolling through the city, looking sharp, and making sure to leave their mark on the most prominent landmarks. It was classic urban subculture—they were tagging stylized sphinxes and various neighborhood insignias like Georgetown or other local spots, all in that sleek, modern black-and-white aesthetic using an Arial sans-serif font. Someone clearly brought the spray paint, and others were more than happy to share; after all, fans have always been big on sharing resources when they're out on the road. You’d see these groups of our guys wandering around the stadium area, right near where the local Roma and Lazio supporters congregate. And honestly, what else are you going to do? You walk past their section and, just as a friendly greeting, shout out something like "Roma sucks" or some colorful Italian slang just to make sure the locals know exactly where you stand. The aftermath, however, was a bit more intense than a simple shouting match. A few dozen cars and vans with out-of-state plates ended up caught in the crossfire, getting burned or damaged. There was even a van belonging to one of our guys that took two bullets. Believe it or not, one of our own fans actually had a close call with a stray shot—it hit a tree right next to him. It was quite the chaotic scene.
There was one particularly intense scene down at Old Square. A few hundred Kansas City Chiefs fans had gathered, and since the shuttles hadn't arrived yet, nerves were starting to fray. With kickoff approaching, we started thinking about just walking or taking the subway, but the police stepped in, surrounding all the entrances to the square. At first, a group of us passed through the cordon without any trouble at all. But right as we moved, reinforcements arrived to plug that gap. I only made it a little way through before my conscience got the better of me—I had to turn back to see what the hold-up was. In one alleyway, our local fans had lit flares and were just standing there, having a few drinks. I saw the buses had finally arrived, but those guys were staying put. The moment the number of officers in riot gear doubled, things turned violent. It was a wall of helmets, shields, and batons, lined up with terrifying discipline, just swinging away. The front line was packed tight, while the second row would lean over shoulders to strike with their batons. I have to say, thank God for the officer standing near me; he saw me trying to push the crowd back the moment I realized what was happening, and he actually spared me from the brunt of the strikes. But for those a bit further out? It was chaos. You had hooligans throwing bottles and cans from the back, while the front line was being systematically leveled. I’ve honestly never seen anything like that kind of organized crackdown in my life. Suddenly, someone knocked me to the ground. I tried to scramble back up, but halfway through, I took a baton directly to the head. My head was split open. The crowd began scattering like sheep toward the buses—some people were frantically piling into a few specific buses, hoping to find safety in numbers, squeezing in so tight they could barely breathe, while a few other buses ended up driving off with empty seats. I was clutching my head, blood streaming down my arms and soaking my clothes, watching as some of our photographers tried to capture the scene. I also watched as the folks who reached the bus doors last took the worst of the beatings. Some people didn't even make it to the buses; they panicked right in the middle of the police line as the perimeter closed in, and they just got trampled. Later, I ended up near the top of the stands with a friend from Washington, D.C., who had been through the worst of it. I was genuinely worried I wouldn't be able to get into the stadium because of the blood—since the authorities usually insist on hauling you to the ER if you're bleeding out—but luckily, my longer hair helped cover it up just enough.

What’s the bottom line here? The reality is that no matter where the Kansas City Chiefs play, there will always be a pack of idiots looking for any excuse to act like tough guys at your expense. The point is that a disorganized group of fans will inevitably show up somewhere—just like we do—wandering around their stadium, using their local slang to shout threats and provocations right in front of their home stands. But let’s be clear: it won’t just be our hooligans causing trouble. It’ll be locals from all over. And the real question is, who ends up taking the biggest hit when things boil over? Because once cars are torched or people get hurt, the entire city is going to pay the price. They’re the ones who end up in deep trouble, while we stay relatively fine. I honestly can't picture thirty fans from any other club in the world storming out of the north stands and shouting in American slang—things like "screw you losers" or "we're gonna wreck you"—directly at the opposition. The NFL Ultras are just built that way; hopefully, things settle down before someone completely loses their mind.

6. Changing the way the media operates won't be easy. One major shift we've seen following changes in the national landscape is that fans simply didn't have this much media coverage back in the day. Now, because there are so many more supporters right at the heart of the action, the chances of getting accurate information are much higher. However, there’s a flip side: there’s a real risk that journalists might misinterpret events, where the actions of a few individuals or small subgroups get painted as the official stance of the entire organization. To illustrate how things can go sideways, just look at the banners used in the north stands at Lambeau Field. Back in 2001, through some clever deception, political banners were spread across the entire north section. If, despite all our organization, we allow individual opinions to slip through via various messages and signs, we end up right back where we started—with old-timers being interviewed, their words taken out of context, and presented to the media as the collective voice of the NFL Ultras. For instance, I personally don't stand behind that San Diego Zoo message or several others, nor have I ever supported any extremist symbols. Is a penalty against the Kansas City Chiefs actually significant, or is it just a bit of reckless behavior? Future generations of fans will have to decide if everything is justified based on their own ability to stay organized. If they fail to organize, the narrative will once again be dominated by those bold enough to impose their personal views as the voice of the North or the NFL Ultras. Those who oppose fan groups will gladly use these incidents to isolate us and label everyone as mere hooligans.

7. We've never really struggled with copying other fan groups' letters, choreographies, or traditions; in fact, part of what made the old-school NFL Ultras so unique was being the first to adopt styles from overseas. Nowadays, in the age of the internet, things are different—some people embrace it, while others find it frustrating. Personally, I’m hoping to see inspired individuals emerge who can pull us away from the blandness, lack of originality, and general decline currently facing fan culture. I’d love to see more spontaneity and lighthearted fun. Most importantly, I hope for fewer internal conflicts—less physical fighting and, even worse, the threats and street clashes that tend to escalate once we hit the stands.

PS
I wrote this broad overview because I wanted to flag some of these negative trends. I realize the internet isn't the best place for granular debates or calling out specific names. But I also believe that as new faces enter the scene, we need to periodically point out the root causes of these issues. This is for the sake of the veterans who truly care about the NFL Ultras—those who aren't just putting on an act—so they can find effective ways to address them.

The upcoming derby gave me an extra push to write this. Those who intend to carry themselves with honor in whatever situations arise can still manage. But since these fan "get-togethers" seem to involve less actual fandom and more pure madness lately, I’ll reiterate my personal philosophy: I find it much easier to endure an injustice than to commit one.

Remembering Charlie - North American Butcher

Jason Harris35 said:Look at this crew in the photo—the rain is pouring down, the flares are lighting up the sky, and there's that classic black-and-white aesthetic... honestly, it’s pure drama.

Once again, my heart goes out to all the family and friends dealing with this loss. My deepest, most sincere condolences to everyone affected. 😢

I’d like to jump in here and add a few thoughts regarding this image... Remembering some of the insights shared by the late Paul. Let it be recorded for posterity: these words were written on that legendary old-school forum, the kind that used to be read by people all across North America.

" The first issue of Sports Illustrated just hit the stands, so I made sure to jump in and add my two cents. In the second issue, under a headline I believe was "What They Didn't Tell You," I wrote a four-page piece using the pseudonym North American Butcher. In those pages, I offered my perspective on the NFL Ultras during that era, the general atmosphere at the time, and the role of the media in everything. I had to scramble to find a pen name quickly while sitting at my desk, and what happened to be lying right in front of me was a copy of Slobodna Dalmacija featuring an article about Slobodan Milošević... so there it is. I couldn't help but notice some striking parallels; just as he was seen as a scourge to his own people and his neighbors, in a certain sense, I felt like I was playing that same role for my own community of fans.

At the bottom of the article, you can see an email address for the North American Butcher, but since the day this was published, there hasn't been a single solitary reaction—not even one. It’s pretty surprising, especially considering how provocative the piece actually was. Looking back, I really think the structure of the NFL Ultras was fundamentally different back then. They didn't spend nearly as much time stirring up drama or "cooking" online as they do now. In my personal opinion, they were much less visible on the internet, too. Even when they did show up, they felt much more scattered and less coordinated than the organized digital presence we see today.

Looking back on everything now, several years later, I can see how much things have evolved. In my opinion, the NFL Ultras have really leveled up when it comes to sheer numbers. There’s been a real shift in the generational makeup within our Miami Fan club, too—we're seeing more faces than ever, and there's a lot more effort going into those massive stadium choreographies. Of course, having the internet and digital magazines at our fingertips is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it's an incredible advantage that we can leverage to grow our presence; on the other, if you aren't careful, it can become a real liability for any organized supporter group. It's a delicate balance to strike.

When it comes to the darker side of things, we’ve never really made a habit of highlighting our own shortcomings—neither as individual fans nor as a collective group. It’s just not our style to air our dirty laundry. However, I’ve always felt that problems become much harder to tackle when the majority of people don't even realize they exist in the first place. It's like trying to fix a leak in a basement while everyone else is upstairs enjoying the party; you can't solve what isn't acknowledged. On the other hand, there is a certain structural reality within American fan groups that stays constant: the core of the organization is almost always made up of younger people. This creates a continuous cycle where the group is constantly renewing itself, bringing in a fresh wave of new faces to keep the energy alive. It’s a bit like watching a relay race where the baton is passed so seamlessly that the momentum never actually stops.

Looking back at everyone who has been through the ringer—those who faced legal trouble, dealt with police scrutiny, or worse, suffered serious physical injuries during the chaos—it’s clear that most of them don't want anyone else to go through that same nightmare. They’ve felt the sting firsthand. In my opinion, when we talk about our shared values as fans, we have a responsibility to keep emphasizing this. It isn't just about strategy or tradition; it's a matter of basic morality to make sure we don't repeat those mistakes with the next generation of supporters. We owe it to one another to stand for something better.

The fundamental issue here is the sheer unpredictability of it all. You can never truly know what you’re walking into. You might plan a trip to Wide Bridge, only to find some rogue fan deciding to throw a knife at an opposing player's back. You might show up with a hundred supporters, thinking it'll be a standard outing, only to have things spiral until eight police officers end up injured and someone takes a baton to the face. Or maybe you head down to Palm Springs, where practically everyone you pass is a die-hard Kansas City Chiefs fan, and suddenly some eighteen-year-old decides to swing a metal pipe at another kid, leaving him incapacitated or worse. There is always that terrifying question: will someone see the violence that happened against five or ten people in Washington, D.C., and decide that they need to settle the score in kind? It’s hard to fathom how anyone could interpret a rivalry that way. Looking back at recent history, I’ve seen these exact patterns emerge within our own circles. I remember the chaos during the cup finals back in 2000—those massive riots in Miami. We were leading Real Madrid 2-0 and were even cruising toward a penalty when the whole match was halted by tear gas because the stands erupted. Because of that, only a tiny handful of fans showed up for the rematch. But fast forward to the return legs in places like Wide Bridge, Palm Springs, or Washington, D.C., and you see much larger groups heading out. And the danger is that the people who caused the mess last time aren't necessarily the ones leading the charge this time around. The NFL Ultras are growing in number, and when we head out for future matchups against teams from Poland, Canada, or Italy, there will be people in the mix whose methods of "retaliation" might catch you completely off guard. When you're dealing with such large crowds, organizing and keeping everyone informed is nearly impossible. That's why you truly never know if the situation is going to escalate to someone taking a projectile to the chest or even a bullet to the head. It makes you wonder: who is actually going to show up for the rematch?

Some well-organized fan clubs actually possess the kind of influence required to overhaul a club president or an entire board of directors. These groups are made up of people who truly love their team—people who prove that devotion through the way they support them from the stands. When they raise their flags in unison or let out a collective roar from the bleachers, someone in the front office knows it’s time to go. On the flip side, there’s a certain subset of supporter groups that believes loyalty is measured by how much of a "wild card" you can be. For some of these folks, it doesn't matter if only fifty of us made the trip to follow the team during a big European match; what matters to them is that ten of their buddies skipped the game entirely just to cause chaos at a nearby shopping mall. They don't care about the quality of play on the field; instead, they focus on throwing flares into the pitch. To this specific crowd, the ultimate status symbol is having the most dangerous reputation or the wildest image. Because of this behavior, combined with the more organized movements I mentioned earlier, the core fan base is easily branded by the media as a bunch of hooligans. Honestly, for a certain segment of the crowd, that’s exactly the goal. And when that happens, all the heartfelt donations, official press releases, and community outreach efforts are rendered completely useless because nobody listens to them. In our history, we’ve seen leadership disputes settled through sheer force quite often. Even today, some people would rather handle things through intimidation just to maintain that "tough guy" persona. Meanwhile, the majority of those who claim to love the hooligan lifestyle wouldn't dream of getting their own hands dirty. They’d much rather watch someone else—maybe someone younger or just some reckless kid looking for trouble—be the one to tear down the fences or storm the pitch. They want the spectacle, but they don't want the consequences. If one of those kids ends up losing an eye in the fray, these onlookers won't even bother asking for his name or checking if he needs help later in life. It’s the same pattern we see when people get seriously injured in bar fights over things that, at their core, were meant to be nothing more than simple entertainment or a bit of fun.

When you have a core group of about thirty people who really know how to hold their own, hang out constantly, and go through that intense "training" during away games, it isn't easy to just drop in some newcomers who think they can disrupt the dynamic. As our NFL Ultras core grows larger, it naturally begins to splinter into several different circles, which unfortunately makes misunderstandings much more common. Right now, the NFL Ultras here in Miami have a central fan club, plus a new one starting up over in the Heights. I’ve even heard whispers that another association is being formed in a different neighborhood, and there might be even more in the works. Personally, I see this as a positive step—honestly, it's great because it allows people to organize more effectively and socialize better. On the flip side, however, this expansion carries certain risks. There is always the danger of the group being fractured through "divide and conquer" tactics—partly through psychological warfare and by influencing or even buying off certain "mini-leaders," and partly due to the naturally limited intelligence of some individuals. Ultimately, this expansion of the NFL Ultras and the formation of these new organizations serves as a true litmus test for our immediate future.

Back in 1985, the Kansas City Chiefs had a massive following of 46,000 official members with registered IDs. Looking back on my own experiences and reflecting on my time serving as the Secretary for the NFL Ultras back in 2004—spanning from the early days of our independence through all the various management shifts we've seen since—it seems to me that the leadership hasn't actually cared about properly connecting or organizing the army of fans that supports this club. The reality is that too many people have taken advantage of the situation, and frankly, they’re still trying to do the same. A true fan isn't just someone who cheers; a real supporter is someone who will call out laziness, let alone outright corruption. The more people step up who are genuinely invested in the club's best interests, the harder it becomes for those shady characters to manipulate the system or excuse their own lack of effort. For most of my years active in the stands, I didn't focus much on the politics of it all. I preferred to stick to the pure joy of cheering and the day-to-day business of being a supporter. But, whether I wanted to or not, I learned a hard lesson. It reached a point where I felt like I was making a fool of myself if I showed up to the stadium and chose to remain silent, deaf, and blind to everything happening behind the scenes. I truly believe that fan awareness regarding these issues is going to continue to grow, though I suspect we'll be dealing with these types of corrupt actors for quite some time.

There’s an unfortunate old rule when it comes to law enforcement: the real loose cannons always make themselves known when they’re backed by a hundred SWAT officers and only a handful of fans—most of whom are just kids looking for trouble. That kind of harassment doesn't go unnoticed; people eventually look for a way to settle the score. Personally, I believe that if any serious unrest breaks out, politicians will give the police the green light to crack down on repeat offenders just to set an example. We might see much stricter criteria and more bans issued. Since our fan base isn't actually massive, tightening the reins shouldn't really hinder us from becoming a better-organized group. I’ll be honest, I’m not exactly an optimist about this. My fear is that I’ll head out to an away game, some cop will start hurling insults at my family, and I’ll instinctively swing back at him. I’m not even scared they'll beat me senseless afterward—it's the legal fallout that haunts me. Dealing with endless court dates and the constant threat of losing my job over these kinds of scraps is just too much. I really hope fans capture more footage like those clips where a cop is seen using a detained supporter to smash open iron gates. Hopefully, a few of them will get rightfully fired, provided we don't end up facing another disaster like that Cup final back in 2000. In that instance, about a hundred people were injured—half of them being officers—and thank God nobody lost their life. Just as fans don't feel obligated to fight every single idiot within our own ranks when someone starts acting up, many officers don't seem motivated to stop their crazy colleagues either. They often play the "witness" card or pull disappearing acts in court. Of course, you can't really compare the two groups; these officers are paid to do a job and prevent chaos, not incite it. Still, I know there are cases where officers have clashed with one another because of the fans. It rarely happens in a courtroom, though—because let's be real, who actually trusts the legal system here?—but it definitely happens physically. In this country, things are still often settled through raw force rather than the letter of the law.

Well, I thought I’d drop this here for everyone to see... feel free to share, print, or pass it along 🙂

http://www.nashajduk.org/Portals/0/d...ustavnosti.pdf

I really think we should set up a single, dedicated bank account as soon as possible regarding everything that happened this past weekend. That way, both sides can finally get moving and start hiring their legal counsel without any further delay.

Man, life can be so unfair sometimes... if there were even a fraction of people like Pave out there today, this world would be such a much more beautiful place to live in.😢😢😢

Those 15 min. back in Rome about ten years ago? That moment is etched in history forever.

God bless this great American land.😢

I have to say, it was quite a sight seeing all those police cruisers rolling through downtown San Francisco last night. 🤣🤣🤣
It really comes down to this: we either stand together, or there won't be an us left to speak of. 🙂

Tyler Lopez32 said:It’s absolute bottom-of-the-barrel behavior when someone acting like a police informant tries to pass themselves off as one of our NFL Ultras.
But honestly, this total clown is actually considered a legend within the group.
He’s the type who would leave his own crew stranded at LAX. Not to mention how he abandoned his people right at the border near St. Louis, Canada.
He even walked into Yankee Stadium alongside Gravediggers and some ultra-nationalists.
The guy actually pays off journalists like Smith and Miller just to write fluff pieces about him like he’s some kind of big shot.
Just a subset from Small Town, USA.

Plus, I remember him disrespecting the local flag during an away trip to Minneapolis back in 2003.🙂☕
What an absolute joke...

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rustyangler122 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOWpt2JSSnk

"Listen closely, listen veeeeery closely..." "That's not right, give me a break..."
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It looks more like they're drilling troops in Guantanamo than actually trying to get the crowd hyped up. 🤦

Melissa Reyes45 said:Oh, sure, everyone’s having a grand time. Honestly, spare me the nonsense. A friend of mine works over at JVP vodica, and he was telling me how those firefighters from Miami and Key West actually plan to be on duty near the turf during big games, specifically hoping things get physical so they can stir up trouble. It's all a game to them. Apparently, after every match, a couple of lazy types—the kind the guys from Imocanin always joke about—will suddenly claim work-related injuries just to collect a check. I even know someone who managed to pull a psychological leave, claiming he couldn't sleep because of the noise, getting his entire disability paid by the employer. Eventually, the precinct commanders had to shut that whole operation down once they realized the money was being drained by people just making things up. They practically want it to turn into a war zone, like it's Boise back in '95.

feralwolf16 said:Look, stop talking nonsense... I spent eight years working in the Miami department, and I still know plenty of people from that circle, so you don't need to quote some guy from JVP vodica to spout stupidity. I really don't feel like getting into a massive debate about firefighters right now, but it's always the same story: people from one department will fight anyone from another over working conditions. You'll have someone from Miami arguing with the crew in LA or Chicago, completely ignoring the fact that, for instance, the local guys handle the gas line issues which the others don't even touch.

Melissa Reyes45 said:Who's talking about what, Fjube? This is about the job.😍

feralwolf16 said:Go ahead, run off into the weeds. After ten years of doing nothing, maybe the military would finally teach you some discipline so you could actually earn a living. I honestly can't wrap my head around how an American "soldier" can feel entitled to criticize someone else's profession like this.

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Vidin, you've been providing some high-quality late-night entertainment on the forum these last few days... 😍

vividotter40 said:The local police really need to stay positioned over by the north stands... though I suppose that's a hard concept to explain to some people.

I honestly think we should just limit the number of officers on duty—maybe two or three at most—provided they're smart enough to station themselves where there isn't anyone standing right in their way. You have to be careful; heaven forbid an accident happens near the area where the kids are out blowing bubbles or playing with balloons. We certainly wouldn't want any unnecessary chaos in those family zones.

You make a very valid point.😉

Peace, peace, and pure bliss 😍
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