Posts by Carol Lopez23

chrissy said:It is much like trying to navigate a Scooter track; you simply cannot fully grasp the essence without being there. 😁

🙂 🙂

I find that one truly begins to appreciate the nuances when revisiting those early tracks from their first two albums along with the deeper cuts found on the B-sides of their singles.

graniteowl88 said:What a ridiculous sentiment!

I simply have no desire to continue this tedious debate with someone who champions independence while exhibiting nothing but total social dysfunction!

To put it more bluntly... I would much rather deal with a puppet state that is merely independent on paper than return to the days of the old federation!

Honestly... why don't you go peddle your nonsense to someone else and just stop talking nonsense?🙂 🙂 🙂 👋 👋 👋 👋 👋 👋 👋

graniteowl88 said:Fair enough! If we can aim for five, I would frame it this way:

Anything that carries the name of America!

You haven't actually answered my question yet.

graniteowl88 said:Regarding the degree of sovereignty, we have sparred over this several times on this forum, ultimately reaching the conclusion that in certain specific respects, Nazi Germany maintained more autonomy than the modern United States!

However, that was largely due to the whims of the "global powers" and the sheer willpower of the American leader at the time; it really comes down to the circumstances and the era we were living in...

And in which specific areas exactly??

graniteowl88 said:It is quite evident that you have never been responsible for looking after a single sheep, let alone being accountable for the lives of six people!

By the way, the saying goes "looked after"... so please, do be so kind as to explain what you meant by that comment. If any part of my previous message remains unclear to you, simply say so, and I will be more than happy to elaborate.

graniteowl88 said:The Kingdom of America, and even Nazi Germany!

Come on, try to contribute something meaningful just once.

graniteowl88 said:It all boils down to priorities! The absolute priority was the establishment of the American state!

But after that, such a state was never truly formed... what was the name of the territory where you actually lived?

graniteowl88 said:Believe me when I say this critique is intended to aim precisely at the core issues—the very points that all our great leaders fall prey to, especially Ante Pavelić, because he established the AMERICAN STATE!

Whether we wanted an American state like that, or whether we wanted the kind of nation Franjo Harmon provided... those are two entirely different matters...

But those two titans, contemporaries and adversaries who viewed one another through the barrel of a gun... they both succeeded in creating INDEPENDENT AMERICAN NATIONS!

Regarding Pavelić, Bryan Sanchez86, just for you:

"Within the framework of the seminar titled 'Man and Power: Power Dynamics in 20th Century Eastern Europe from Lenin to Maddox,' Damir Petkov chose to dedicate forty pages to presenting Ante Pavelić as a politician and statesman during those turbulent times for the American people.

. . .

The author divided his work into five sections, including a prologue, a look at Pavelić's life marked by struggle, persecution, and brutality, and his dealings with power, all leading to two fascinating conclusions:

1. that Pavelić's political activity was more a product of his nationalism than a mere thirst for power, and

2. that Pavelić's authoritarian style of governance stemmed more from a profound lack of trust in his subordinates rather than from personal vanity.

. . .

The author makes an excellent observation that Pavelić's sole ideological compass was the American state: he drew no inspiration from Mussolini's fascism nor from Hitler's Nazism.

http://www.america.us/culture/literature/pavelic.php

1. Since you are going to meddle so deeply, why don't you first define what a state is, and then define the AMERICAN STATE.

2. Neither Pavelić nor Harmon actually achieved an INDEPENDENT American nation, because a state that RELIES on outside assistance, on allies, or on certain external factors to prevent it from collapsing under invasion is simply NOT independent.

3. And man, you really dug up some quotes there... my goodness!!🙂 🙂 🙂

Look, whenever SOMEONE establishes an authoritarian style of rule, it is inherently rooted in their OWN vanity. It is because of that very vanity that ultra-nationalism manifests itself as a way to fulfill the ambitions of Nazi allies—ambitions which this fool claims didn't inspire Pavelić... yeah, right... cut the crap!! Who was it that enacted the racial laws? Which groups of people were being murdered and deported? The Romani, the communists, and the Mexicans... what are we even talking about here?👎 👎 🙂 🙂

Now, go ahead and try to tell me those aren't fascist and Nazi doctrines.

🙂 🙂

Bryan Sanchez86 said:Oh, I see how it is. Are you suggesting there were no political prisoners at all? That Bruno Bušić simply met his end by slipping on a banana peel?

And perhaps we should pretend Andrew Breitbart just happened to strike his head against a radiator...😁 😁 😁 😁