Posts by Jerry Morris2

Henry Flores3 said:punks, weirdos, and the like,

😁

The issue with these kinds of clashes is that they’re becoming a rarity. Being armed is essential—otherwise, how do you deal with the endless chatter from internet trolls? That’s why you see all this mindless shouting online. They act tough and play both sides, when in reality, it was just one mediocre brawl that nobody actually cared about. Maybe next time they'll step it up just so you lot have something better to comment on. Honestly, let them go at it more often; maybe then the scene will finally get its act together.

Honestly, tell me this: why on earth are you people celebrating goals in the first place?

What happened to the celebration? Is nobody even bothering to celebrate goals anymore?👎

nimblemoose2 said:If you're directing this at me—accusing me of selling out and insulting my family—then I’ll return the favor and insult yours, you uneducated loudmouth. If you weren't, then just ignore it.

Who exactly did I sell out to? I haven't taken a single cent from Mamić’s livestock or his paid-off sycophants. When did I sell out? Was it when a group of ten or fifteen thugs cornered me near my house and cracked my skull with a telescope? A blow that could have left me an invalid. I spent 17 years going to matches. Over 300 away games. Six months in jail total for all the nonsense I took. Fines totaling at least $200,000. Today, I have a wife, two children, and a mortgage.

You ask why I don't show up to games anymore. Given my record and all the legal headaches, I haven't set foot in Chicago for years. I work for a private construction firm owned by my brother in Indianapolis. If it weren't for him, I’d likely be unemployed. I have a child with autism. Any parent whose child suffers from this knows how much it drains your health and your nerves. I can't remember the last time I slept more than three or four hours in the past five years. My son wakes up constantly during the night; he gets scared and starts screaming. You talk to yourself, you try to soothe him however you can—medication doesn't help here. Then you have neighbors complaining that you should "quiet that brat down," so you tell them where to shove it. I once had to slap a lowlife who came to my door threatening to shut my kid's mouth for me. He calls the cops, those mindless animals, and then there's USA Swimming, those bastards who threaten to take your child away. All I need is a stadium seat on top of all that.🙂

My time has passed, but I have every right as someone with seniority to say I don't like how things are. Especially this pathetic mentality—this idea that we won't attack this guy or that guy because they're "troublemakers" and part of Mamić's crew. Who cares if they're trouble? There was a kid who coolly knocked Mamić out in broad daylight, causing more action than the entire Chicago group has in the last decade. Damn your calculated mentality. Do I need to draw it all out for you? Should I travel from Indianapolis to give you a lecture on how to smash a car, throw a flare at a house, or follow someone for half a day just to beat them senseless? There aren't even 10 or 20 people ready to organize and tear a guy's face off so his own mother wouldn't recognize him. Yet you wage war on me, calling me some old fool who sold out for two beers and a steak. Shame on you. If tomorrow some miracle happened—if my son recovered, if I paid off my mortgage, if my record was cleared and I found work in Chicago—I wouldn't bother showing up to the stands with you again. Not after everything I've seen and how betrayed I felt when I actually needed help, while I stood by others without a second thought.😠

So, whether you like it or not, ban me if you want, but that is my opinion.

Check your PM

nimblemoose2 doesn't get one thing. We traded our collective strength for honor and integrity, while his generation—honor being the exception rather than the rule here—sold out the group for a few cheap beers and some scraps. If we have to take a beating everywhere we go, fine. Why should shameless people like you even care? You worried about The Walkers? Then why weren't you there? There were even older men present than you... Worried about The Cohort? Maybe because you spend your time lurking on forums instead of heading down to Fifth Avenue, dropping a few bucks, and talking to your own kind. Or perhaps you can't even do that, since you speak to everyone with such stiff formality. These kids are as wild as they come, and they haven't lost their edge; they just see a bunch of old fossils who turned their backs on everything and sold their souls to the club executives for a handful of pocket change. Stick to your own generation and leave the kids alone. It's a miracle they're even standing after everything. Betrayal after betrayal. To hell with all of you, selling yourselves out for a meager meal. And yet, these are the ones trying to lecture us...

Every generation follows its own trajectory. We ought to support them, regardless of how misguided their ideas might seem, simply because they are the ones actually doing the work. That is where the debate ends. We can mock them or make jokes if we want, but when things get real, they are the ones standing on the line while most of us have long since stepped aside. So, let them push forward.

Oh, come now, we're just having a little fun

steelseal10 said:I recall years ago, perhaps one or two of those big games fell right on Holy Saturday. I remember us sitting there cutting ham and snacking on green onions during the halftime break.🙂

Just pretend everything is fine.👍
After getting robbed at the gas station, nothing clears the conscience quite like Sunday morning mass.

Thomas Flores7 said:So then the driver just gave a nod to the GOP...🤣🤣 🤣

You really run into all sorts of people on this forum, don't you? Hahaha.

frozenraven79 said:When I witness those initial reactions from losers like Valak, Xepcio, or odbij seal, it merely confirms that my assessment is correct.

In short, I hope that during every future European tour, you experience at least a fraction of what happened in Greece at the hands of the Deli.

You wretches haven't been able to dismantle a group of mercenaries for years, even while claiming the "judicial and political system" is on your side. You get violated wherever you go, and out of sheer helplessness, you pivot from that banner incident in Pittsburgh to this current mess.

And finally, once Americans, Swiss people, and politics (don't worry, you aren't the type to stop him) finally deal with Mamić, I look forward to seeing some new Mamić emerge—one who won't hold such massive power in American soccer, but who will exert even worse and greater repression over you.

Disgusting...

First of all, educate yourself.
Keep calculating. Mines, cornfields, and forests are closer than you think.

Brian Martin78 said:Why bother even thinking about it? Why waste the energy when there's nothing left to gain?

That’s true enough. But then again, if we've managed to endure this far...

I show up to a game with five thousand people in attendance, only to find myself stuck in line just to buy a ticket. Why? Because I didn't have the foresight to grab one beforehand. Is it really my job to accommodate the security checkpoints, the barricades, and the ridiculous mandates handed down by the useless suits in management? It’s pathetic. Let them rot. Nothing is settled yet.

Dennis Davis97 said:Come on, you lot are nothing but fair-weather math nerds. You back off when the opposition is elite, yet you refuse to yield when you think the odds favor you. If a powerhouse squad rolled up on the South Side, you’d be looking for cover. Even when the teams were evenly matched, there was always a fight. But no, you just calculate and cherry-pick matchups whenever you know you have the upper hand. Meanwhile, those gritty guys from Chicago go all in on every single scrap—that's why things actually happen. It isn't like you didn't know what kind of trouble you were inviting by playing it that way. 😉

🙏🙏🙏🙏

Crazy, calculating cowards. 😁😁

Thomas Williams59 said:...the man isn't some deity. Honestly, who even has a joint as their profile picture? It explains the tone of the post perfectly. I don't know why anyone bothers responding at this point; clearly, someone is just looking for cheap thrills...

And then there are all sorts of people like us 😁😁

@Thomas Flores7/">@@Thomas Flores7 and others.
Every fan group in America stands united against certain ideals held by the USSF. Rare are the groups that even express such values, and even rarer are those that actually live them. The complexity of the situation you are discussing is multifaceted. We are dealing with entirely different motivations for entering this fight. If we look at the Rally, one primary reason—and likely the largest—is the constant humiliation of the Los Angeles Dodgers by the USSF, the MLS, and various other quasi-institutions within American soccer. For the Black and Gold Army, the motivation is the destruction of the New York Yankees' identity. Believe me, that was already the catalyst back when we initiated our boycott in 2010. Most of us knew even then (personally, since the relegation battle) that a rift between the club and the fans was inevitable; the level of small-mindedness within the Yankees had already pushed most of us past the breaking point. Now, consider those two distinct motivations. The Black and Gold Army rises up even while the Yankees dominate American sports—and it isn't a mystery that they will continue to do so for years to come. I wonder, does any other group in the world turn its back on corruption within its own club while that club sweeps everything in the domestic league and plays in the Champions League? At that moment, an already fractured group decided to take a stand against Jerry Jones. In the following years, one needn't even mention what happened to that group: the blackmail, the attempted corruption that actually succeeded against some, the shootings, police interventions, interference from veterans, the theft of banners, and so on.
In short, the Black and Gold Army was left completely isolated in the fight against the snake in their own city. On the other hand, we have you. You drove out your "tycoons"—who, let’s be honest, aren't even half as bad as ours—and you are building your own club. You have the support of the City itself and a massive segment of public figures (lawyers, doctors...) not to mention the Split residents and Dalmatians who, from the very beginning, couldn't care less about Washington, D.C., for plenty of other reasons. All of this symbolizes the fight for clean soccer that you are successfully driving forward. Now, place yourself in the position of anyone among us who has endured injustice for years while the surrounding environment remains anything but supportive. A negative media narrative has already been constructed, pushing us (not you) onto the headlines every single time. How long did it take people to blame the Black and Gold Army for things happening in the Forum? Every group had its own methods of operation. Perhaps our method was, from a supporter's perspective, pure, yet ultimately unsuccessful in many respects. But it was undeniably a struggle—physical, psychological, legal, and sometimes merely media-driven. It is also undeniable that the crackdown on the supporter movement fell on our shoulders first. You recognized that back then and stood on the same terrace with us; perhaps that was one of the most significant moments of this entire struggle. Now, most people in both our ranks and yours will say, "never again with those bastards," without realizing there are plenty of such bastards all around us. But it doesn't matter; this is just my personal opinion. Mockery is part of the supporter ethos, and I see nothing wrong with it. Ultimately, I believe every group acted within its own framework. Unfortunately, our frameworks are incomparably worse than yours. It is foolish to claim primacy in any struggle or to boast about it before the fight is won. And it is not over.

Noah Jones92 said:Who says you can't express an opinion online, even if it’s a bit crude like mine sometimes? What exactly do you think of yourself? Do you assume that because I have a perspective, I’m some coward who isn't allowed to speak the truth to anyone's face? Why should I have to hunt someone down just to settle a score in person? I don't understand your logic at all. Am I supposed to be some weakling who disappears the moment things get intense? Listen, kid, you're talking nonsense. Where are all those tough guys from the big city? Where is that squad? Where are the D42, the zCB types (respect to ZGV, obviously), the Sepre, NBG, the idiots, the local kids, the charmers, the Brooklyn crowd—all those people you keep rambling about? All those groups you mentioned vanished the second things got difficult. Does it really bother you so much when someone asks why a group has changed? When it’s obvious something happened? There were threats made by those Mamić loyalists when they split off, claiming they wouldn't last a month before being wiped out. There were fights involving the Delija because they preferred snorting cocaine for free over standing their ground. Everything folded right when we needed that arrogance you're so busy projecting here. Ego-trippers like you ruined Futsal too, because you wanted everything to look pretty, like a sanitized version of what Dinamo and its fans should be. We hit the peak of euphoria, we needed the Arena for the big games, and then suddenly, wearing certain gear became "forbidden." Where were you during the fights and the chaos these past three years? You were nowhere to be found. It was all because of ego-driven morons like you. Are we even allowed to celebrate when Dinamo scores? Or are we just waiting to get jumped?
I'm done with you, and I'm done responding to your scripted, overcomplicated attacks. You don't need to explain or announce anything ever again. I couldn't care less. Yet, when it comes to membership fees or $20,000 lawyers, you're suddenly calling everyone's house numbers. Then, outsiders—the randoms, the immigrants, the locals—suddenly we are all part of the Dinamo army.

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And one more thing, which is the worst part: all of you have private connections to the Niiaz crew and the high-ups when you need tickets. But here, you act like the most honest, moral, non-hypocritical people on earth.

Look, even if I am a "brainless idiot" as you say, I still have enough decency not to slander people from behind a screen. I have enough respect for the people who actually live the lifestyle to not spit on them over the internet, regardless of my opinion. Only a massive coward like you or some other troll could do that.
You show up here like some outlaw. You talk trash about the people who were in Athens, you talk trash about the veterans from decades ago, and you demand answers. Based on what exactly? The $20-$10 you tossed around for some kid's lawyer? You come onto a public forum, agitated and arrogant, demanding answers from random forum users. And then I'm the ego-tripper? Get a grip.
If you were ever actually part of the group—which it seems you were—then talk to your own people. Talk to the leaders and stop the public call-outs. You aren't going to get the answers you're looking for here.

Will there always be a handful of you people who love to talk trash online, only to tuck your tails between your legs the moment things actually get heavy? It would be better if these groups finally grew up and banned members from posting, just so everyone knows that the person typing behind a screen is ultimately irrelevant and an idiot.
Listen, Apostle, when you were writing about those two individuals—there is absolutely no reason to name names on the internet. That isn't how matters are settled, regardless of who they are. If you have something to say, go say it to their face.

The last time we really lost our heads, you weren't even there, nor do you have any clue what you're talking about. Listen, we all stood up together. You, on the other hand, only stood up right here on this forum, "legend"...

If you don't have the guts to look someone in the eye and tell them what you think—especially since you act like you're "in the know"—then stay off the forums and stop dragging people's names through the mud in your posts.
We shouldn't all be agreeing on everything, but we certainly shouldn't be airing our dirty laundry in public. When people started acting this way back during the first major split, I already felt uneasy about it as a kid. Idiots like you think they see everything and can brag at the local pub about how much they know, but when it's time to actually deal with the consequences, someone else has to step up. Well, go ahead and post it online so the rest of us idiots know too...

Raymond Reed10 said:🤦 Why don't you grow up and delete this nonsense yourself? A ridiculous suggestion like this shouldn't even be allowed on this forum, let alone in a serious discussion. The Bad Boys support the local powerhouse, not some other club, PPD...

Enough with the mindless posting.
The kid who wrote the original post clearly just wanted to contribute, even if he didn't realize his target was off or why people aren't interested. What do you gain by mocking him on an internet forum? Are you trying to build a reputation through condescension?

Can we please stop this endless fighting? Honestly, your constant posturing on these forums is exhausting. If you actually had any skin in the game, you'd take your money down to Fifth Avenue—but even that simple task seems beyond your capabilities.