Enough with dragging these topics through the forums. Those who were there know what happened, and those who weren't—those who haven't even caught a whiff of the action—don't need to know, nor do they deserve to. Take a good look in the mirror and head straight for Fifth Avenue.
Maria Reyes35 said:I’ve read variations of this exact sentiment over a hundred times today in the comment sections of news sites. 🤦
Basically, we shouldn't bother cleaning up any corruption in this country. Why risk it? What if it turns out to be an election campaign tactic designed to distract the public from other issues?
Every time an investigation starts, it’s the same old story. How many times can you chant the same mantra? Revenge, tricks, score-settling, smoke and mirrors. It never ends.
Tell me, which day of the year—give me a specific date—is considered the "correct" time to launch an investigation without it being labeled as political theater?
Look at what happens after any of those supposed "political" events. It’s 2015! All those criminals are nowhere near a prison cell. In fact, some of them will likely never even see one. Meanwhile, regular citizens get hauled in for minor infractions at a stadium. I couldn't care less about election cycles, but when you've been around long enough, you realize nothing moves unless someone pulls a string to light a fire under their subordinates. These are just their little games.
By the way: "Shortly before that, two fans sped past the house in a car, shouting to the crowd: 'Jerry Maguire, we love you!' They tossed a scrap of paper through a window that read: 'Jack, we love you. A Briton.'" 😁
This law serves a singular purpose: repression of sports fans. Security guards now wield the same authority as police officers, both groups tasked with policing chants and judging messages posted by people who barely finished high school. Under Section 31 of this statute, where participants are treated the same as ringleaders, the right to self-defense is effectively non-existent. Even fundamental American rights—like freedom of movement and property rights—are being trampled, granting police the power to search anyone's vehicle or redirect crowds at will. Is there a single clause outlining the duties of the police toward the spectators? There might be, but those provisions only trigger after the repression and arrests have already occurred. We all know the truth: these are the moments when the law ceases to protect us.
There will be plenty of time for street protests, victory celebrations, and inevitable forum bickering once the next big rivalry settles. It is obvious these idiots seized an opportunity handed to them by our own mistakes, which is a massive win for them. However, it is equally clear that their club just executed its most significant move yet to destabilize the leadership at the USSF by rallying public opinion. Let the establishment feel the heat from all sides. It doesn't matter who decided this or when; what matters is that they are now facing a balanced attack from both fronts. My contribution to this fight is negligible compared to anyone else's—even if the efforts of Liverpool FC carry more weight than ours—but it’s all wasted energy if we don't actually remove them. People can claim credit however they like. I don't care if half of Europe mocks our group or if these thugs try to spin themselves as heroes online. What matters is that our kids finally get to grow up in an environment free from Praetorian guards, arbitrary arrests, and kangaroo courts. They need to be able to stand in their own stands and lead their own battles; only then will we see who truly holds the power. Until then, let's hit this mafia ring from every angle.
Jamie Jackson12 said:So you all hate him... but aren't you the ones left with nothing now? Besides, I've been on this path from the start, thinking for myself. Who is really at fault here—you people, who just lash out without a clue how or why?
Precisely. That is why he turned his back on the group. Just like you, and just like your bosses. What part of that is too difficult to grasp?
Take a moment. Really think about it. How many times did old man Platini fly into America just to defend Mamić? Cross that reality with your little theory and see if you can actually reach a logical conclusion.
Please, spare us the nonsense. Some overzealous kid is bound to read this and think you actually have a point. Then we'll never hear the end of these endless, mindless debates about rocks. 🤷
Ryan Chavez3 said:Give me a break. Where was all this noise when you were choreographing those street victories? Were they all just fistfights back then? Or was it just empty talk behind the scenes at places like Madison Square Garden or local dive bars? It’s impossible to believe people were out there uprooting every single stone. No sane person wants anyone to get hurt or end up disabled. But this sudden moralizing in a country where we didn't even have to use weapons to settle things? It's a joke.
What does a victory or a choreographed display have to do with anything? Don't be ridiculous. The only thing that matters is that nobody ends up in a wheelchair tomorrow. Who actually won or lost? That's irrelevant. Years from now, generations will still be arguing about who came out on top—both our sides and yours. ...as if "uprooting every stone" were even possible... 🤣🤣
Just fists! Until someone loses their head! As for these cowards, I’m telling them one thing: grow some balls or get the hell away from the fans. It doesn't have to be a full-blown riot, but I'd much rather take a hit from ten guys in a scrum than get taken out by some lunatic throwing something from eight hundred yards away and end up paralyzed for life. 🙂
There is a spectrum of people in our group, from the old guard to the kids, stretching from Indianapolis to Brooklyn. They work, they show up, they endure the police crackdowns, and they find contentment in sharing a simple sandwich with two or three friends while on the road—doing this together for years. These are the people who remain now, when things are at their worst, and they aren't out here bragging about themselves like they never have before. Then, there are the others. Those who always thought they were "somebody," the ones who would plunge a knife into a friend's back for a handful of cash. No one is saying these individuals weren't tough once, or that they weren't the backbone of the group at one point. But let’s be clear: at the end of everything, they are not the people you want standing by your side. All they have left now is the ability to remind everyone how "tough" they still are, acting like they are still a force to be reckoned with. I see all this nonsense flooding the forums and news sites lately... These idiots fail to realize that the true reward for years of loyalty is friendship and devotion, not money or an inflated ego. You had it all, and now you can enjoy the mess you've made. Good luck.
Seriously, does every single person who wanders onto this forum feel obligated to act like a walking encyclopedia? 🙂 Is this some kind of pathetic social ritual? As if failing to brag about your knowledge here somehow strips you of all credibility in the stands...
coastalotter8 said:So, does anyone actually have a photo from the main entrance? I assume the guys refused to take pictures of you from behind just to avoid a riot—otherwise, nobody would be able to tell which troublemakers actually made it inside. You people are something else. Looking at these photos...
So, you expect us to justify why we sing against unknown? You think we haven't insulted the players enough? Fine. We’re mercenaries. I hope that satisfies your conscience now. 🙂
Could we please tone down the public call-outs? Attacking people by name online—regardless of their background, or even more tragically, those who have already passed away—is unnecessary. This group has remained loyal until the very end, perhaps more than anyone else. Where is the respect for our own people, who carry this burden and face the reality that any given day could be their last in freedom? Either learn to act like actual supporters and decent human beings, or try to remember what that felt like. Cheers.