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Tyler Lopez98 said:I don't have children yet, but if I did, they would be vaccinated.

Every parent carries the weight of ensuring their children's well-being—and in my view, disease prevention is a fundamental part of that responsibility. It is simply the responsible thing to do. I have full confidence in the safety of vaccines; I chose to get vaccinated myself, as did everyone in my family, and I would certainly extend that same protection to my children should the time come.

To be honest, I find it difficult to wrap my head around those who oppose vaccination—people who cling to absurd conspiracy theories while disregarding medicine and science in an era as advanced as the 21st century.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/vaccines-and-safety/
your kids are lucky to have you
What's the point of required reading? in Students & Teens ·
feralmoose32 said:Of course the test was designed for a first grader, so her reaction was definitely over the top, for sure.

That's exactly why I say parents often make such a huge deal out of absolutely nothing...

Aha, my mistake... I realized now that you were actually the one who got spooked by how "difficult" the test seemed.😁
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feralmoose32 said:So, one of my friend's little ones is in first grade, and they already have their first required reading assignment—plus a test on it!
It’s all just a blur right now...

Meanwhile, with my other friend, they don't even assign reading books in the first grade at all.

So, yeah... 😬

Personally, I’ve been reading Hedgehog the Hedgehog and Ugly Duckling to my little guy, and we’ve actually moved on to Harry Potter. We’re already halfway through the first book in just a week—it really shows how much of an impact parents can have on what their kids are reading.

I mean, it isn't exactly normal for them to be churning through a different book every single week like those high-pressure private academies do... though, granted, that usually happens in the higher grades.

😂😂 Oh, please... the "test" was just a bunch of questions printed out—like, what happened when Alexander woke up? Where did he go first? How was he feeling? What would you do if you were all alone? Or even, draw a picture of your favorite part...

Honestly, quite a rigorous academic assessment...😁
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urbantinker8 said:I mean, Jokic is really just a typical poser, isn't he? He still seems incredibly, almost deathly, offended that he didn't get his name etched into history as the father of the modern American education system.☕

Honestly, I find him absolutely darling.😛 Honestly, if they had implemented his reform instead of this current mess we're stuck with, things would be ten times better. Instead, we’re all just sitting here spinning our wheels and collecting participation trophies while nothing actually changes. 🙄
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Nikola Jokic essentially made the exact same point I did! It is quite funny, really. Only, instead of him going after an ugly little duckling, I ended up getting targeted by Pinocchio himself.
What's the point of required reading? in Students & Teens ·
I actually managed to get everything wrapped up by Friday evening 😁
because she realized that the weekend is ten times more enjoyable when you don't have a mountain of chores hanging over your head. Everything is officially checked off the list, and now, there is nothing left to do but simply sit back and enjoy ourselves...
Looking for a specialist... in Health ·
It’s good, truly good—but can anyone recommend a top-tier internist specializing in hematology? I'm open to private practice options as well. The specific city doesn't matter much, though I suspect most paths will eventually lead me toward Chicago.
I'm dealing with thrombocythemia, interferon treatment, severe hyperthyroidism, and the possibility of interferon-induced sarcoidosis. I desperately need an expert who can actually synthesize all these moving parts, look at the big picture, and come to a coherent, intelligent conclusion...
What's the point of required reading? in Students & Teens ·
urbantinker8 said:I'm not quite sure if you're feeling down or just agitated, but it seems like you're getting worked up over some random classic book assigned in class.
well, fine, if you want to vent, then go ahead and vent.🤷
but if you're going to post your opinion, I guess you should probably let someone else post an opinion that doesn't necessarily align with yours.
it's not really possible for me to just ignore certain posts, they kind of stick out too much, I guess.

I haven't forbidden anyone from expressing their thoughts... where on earth did you get that impression?🤔
Write, don't write, read, don't read... do whatever suits you best.
Just like everyone else on this forum, I am perfectly entitled to say what's on my mind. I'll have plenty of time to form new opinions about school literature once I reach junior year in high school. For now, I find Pinocchio incredibly irritating, and frankly, I think assigning it to second graders is idiotic. You can agree with me, or you don't have to... it's not that deep.
I've said my piece, gotten it off my chest, and now I'm moving on, for goodness sake...😁
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urbantinker8 said:Good grief, give me a break.
But you should probably just go into this expecting that not everyone is going to come up to you and offer a sympathetic pat on the back or try to shoulder the weight of whatever you're feeling, because, I guess, people don't always have the capacity to carry someone else's grief, no matter how massive it might seem.🙂
I suppose I should probably mention that I’ve been thinking about this quite a bit lately, though I can't say I have any definitive answers, just some vague, drifting impressions that seem to settle in my mind whenever things get too quiet. It feels like one of those slow, rainy afternoons in Seattle where you just sort of sit with your thoughts and let them wander without much direction, I guess. Maybe it's just me, or maybe there's something more to it, but I find myself circling back to these same ideas over and over again, almost like a song you can't quite shake from your head. It's a strange sensation, really—this feeling of being caught between wanting to understand everything and just accepting that most things remain somewhat blurry, which, if I'm being honest, might be the most natural way to exist, anyway. urbantinker8 says:
I suppose I should probably start by saying that I don't usually weigh in on these kinds of things, but lately, I’ve been thinking about how much our reading habits change depending on where we live, or maybe just how much they change as we get older, which is a bit of a depressing thought if I'm being honest. It feels like there's this constant pressure to keep up with whatever the latest bestseller is, though I find myself drifting more toward the classics or maybe just rereading things I already know by heart, because there's a certain comfort in knowing exactly how a story ends, isn't there? I was talking to urbantinker8 the other day—well, I wasn't really talking to them so much as just observing their take on the current literary scene—and it made me wonder if we all just crave that same sense of predictability, even if we pretend we want something groundbreaking and experimental. Maybe it's just me, though, and I'm just getting old and tired, but I think there's a quiet beauty in the books that don't try too hard to be important, you know?

I suppose I really ought to say something regarding that mention of King.😁
I guess people tend to write Stephen King off as just some guy who illustrates monsters and clowns that snack on kids at birthday parties, but I don't know, maybe that's missing the point entirely. If you actually sit down with his novels, he’s really more interested in dissecting those quiet, creeping anxieties we all deal with in our everyday lives. Take "It," for example; to me, it feels like this incredibly deep study of childhood and that awkward transition into adolescence in a typical small-town American setting. It’s less about the creature itself and more about the hidden neuroses simmering right beneath the surface of those pristine white houses with their perfect lawns, tucked away between Sunday morning church services and weekend trips to the local baseball field.

In her novel *Rose Madder*, Stephen King manages to capture this incredibly subtle, creeping sense of psychological abuse within a marriage, which, if you ask me, feels far more visceral and unsettling than any story about bloody clowns could ever hope to be.
Since we’re already on the subject of refreshing the required reading list, I was just sitting here thinking that maybe Elif Shafak could be a good addition; I suppose something like kopile Istanbul or tri Evin might actually hold the interest of high school seniors.

I suppose Herman Koch’s *The Dinner* might fit the bill here too. It feels like something that would resonate quite deeply within the American political landscape, especially given how it follows a politician desperately trying to sweep his adopted son's crimes under the rug. Then again, maybe we could look at *The Casual Vacancy* by J. K. Rowling instead. It offers such an interesting cross-section of characters navigating those deep-seated racial and class divisions in a quiet little American town just as an election is looming.

Maybe I could pick up something by Elena Ferrante, or perhaps Zadie Smith. Then again, there’s Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, or maybe Junot Diaz. I suppose I could also dive into Viktor Pelevin, or even Isabel Allende, if I were feeling particularly inclined toward that sort of thing.

I think you really nailed everything you wrote there.
I mean, honestly, if you actually tried to feed those kinds of headlines to kids, you’d probably have a mob of furious parents banging on the faculty lounge door within forty-eight hours.
100%.
I mean, I guess there’s just no reason to go around exposing their kids to those kinds of heavy stories—you know, all that intense stuff about someone's trauma, or abuse, or actual crimes. It feels like maybe we should just leave them out of it.
I mean, I guess you have to wonder what kind of school actually subjects children to those kinds of horrors... it really makes you think about the environment they're being raised in.😲

I suppose I should probably mention that SummerNight was here, though I can't quite decide if they were being particularly profound or just lost in thought, which, to be fair, is a distinction that often feels a bit blurry to me anyway. It’s funny how those moments pass, I guess. Maybe it's just the way the light hits the street in places like Chicago or maybe it's just my own wandering mind, but there's always this sense of something lingering, something unsaid, that stays with you longer than the actual conversation does. I find myself drifting back to those thoughts quite often, really. kaže:
I guess I was just sort of pointing toward that one attempt by some random jerk to try and explain why King is actually worth reading. 😁 It just doesn’t work, I suppose, when someone decides to dismiss potential value from the get-go simply because they have some preconceived notions about a specific genre. It feels a bit futile, maybe, trying to argue for quality when the judgment is already closed off based on something as arbitrary as what category the writing falls into.

My dear. I suppose there’s something about the way summer just sortically settles over everything, isn't there? It’s that heavy, humid stillness you get in places like Atlanta or maybe somewhere deep in the South, where the air feels less like gas and more like a warm, damp blanket you didn't ask for but have to live with anyway. I was sitting on my porch the other day, just watching the heat shimmer off the asphalt, and I found myself thinking about how much we all rush to get through it—the sweating, the sunburns, the constant hunt for air conditioning—only to spend the entire winter moping about the lack of sunlight. It’s a strange, cyclical sort of madness, I guess. Maybe it’s just the light, though. There's a specific quality to an American July afternoon, where the shadows stretch out long and lazy, and for a moment, everything feels like it might actually stay still if you just breathe deeply enough. Or maybe that’s just wishful thinking on my part.I wouldn't say I'm being exclusive at all when it comes to what I read, really. If anything, I’m quite the opposite, I guess.
I guess what—I’ve realized I actually quite like Stephen King.😲
Just because I personally found Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings to be total disasters doesn't mean I wouldn't let my kids pick them up and give them a go, I guess; it might actually be a decent way for them to develop their own perspectives and figure out what they think about those kinds of stories.
I suppose I should probably point out that most people don't really have a clue how today’s teenagers actually feel about reading, or rather, how they don't feel about it, and honestly, I don't think blaming school reading lists is the whole story. It feels like there's more to it than just assigned books, maybe... I guess you also have to look at how little reading happens at home, combined with this constant stream of instant information they're fed every second, and then there's the general social atmosphere surrounding education and literacy in general, which I suspect plays a pretty significant role too.
I suppose one could just recite things from memory, without really bothering to look at how things actually stand in reality. It feels like it’s all quite irrelevant, honestly—the actual facts or the current state of affairs don't seem to matter much in the grand scheme of things, I guess. I suppose I should probably mention that vasa... Kids, you honestly just don't have a clue how things actually work in a classroom.
I suppose I could go on rambling about the specific ways I’d overhaul the diagnostic protocols and treatment plans for certain illnesses I’ve personally dealt with, but then again, I’m hardly a doctor, am I? It’s not like I’m planning to start practicing medicine on myself, nor would I dream of posting some kind of one-size-fits-all medical manifesto here intended for the general public to follow blindly.
I was just sitting here thinking about how much we rely on those little comforts, you know? I guess it’s funny how certain things just stick with you, like that one specific feeling when you finally finish a heavy book and you're just staring at the wall for twenty minutes trying to process everything. It reminds me of how people talk about literature—how we look for ourselves in the pages of a novel, searching for some kind of connection to a character's struggle or their quietest moments. Maybe that's why authors like Zadie Smith or Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie resonate so much; they have this way of capturing the messy, unvarnished reality of being human, which I suppose is what we're all really looking for when we pick up a book in the first place. It's a bit of a rabbit hole, isn't it? Anyway, I was just mulling over that while having my coffee, wondering if we ever truly find what we're looking for in stories, or if we're just looking for a temporary escape from the noise of everyday life. I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking it. urbantinker8 says:
Of course it isn't. I suppose part of the issue stems from the fact that many educators, once they finally wrapped up their degrees, were just relieved to be done with the studying part of life, maybe feeling like they could finally breathe now that the textbooks were closed.

I suppose if educators actually took the time to learn something new every once in a while—you know, if an elementary school teacher occasionally picked up some obscure comic book written in a script they never studied in college, or if a history teacher decided to dive into basic coding, or if that math teacher spent their weekends learning the ukulele or finally tackling a Dickens novel—things might be different. Maybe even if an English teacher dabbled in animation studies or learned how to fix a leaky toilet, or if a foreign language instructor suddenly embarked on a journey to learn Japanese... I feel like they would have so much more empathy for their students. It seems to me that experiencing the struggle of being a total beginner at something completely foreign would bring them closer to what their pupils are going through. They’d understand the mechanics of making learning easier for oneself, which would probably mean they'd be better at guiding students through it, too. They would actually get what it feels like to abandon a MOOC halfway through because you just can't face it anymore, or because you missed a quiz, or maybe because your partner isn't texting you back and, honestly, art history just isn't your priority in that moment. It’s just a thought, I guess.

I honestly don't think anyone has ever actually died from looking up definitions in a dictionary, though I suppose people rarely realize how much it kills the actual rhythm and flow of the prose. Back in middle school, I tried reading Dorian Gray, but I eventually just gave up once I realized I wasn't really reading a book so much as I was maintaining a running log of unfamiliar words in a notebook. Maybe try reading someone like Elena Ferrante instead of Petrarch if you have any grasp of the language, and you'll see that nobody is dropping dead from checking a dictionary every few minutes.

It would probably help if the average teacher actually understood how people learn—you know, by following modern cognitive science—but then again, even just having some consistent, hands-on experience would go a long way.

which is just more proof of how out of touch everyone is with all these supposedly "innovative" methods, outcomes, and nonsense they keep shoving down our throats at every workshop and seminar we attend.

If other professions were subjected to this kind of constant "professional development" across the country, things might actually be blooming. 😍
It’s a shame, really; I guess teachers can't pull all the magic out of thin air. 🙂

And manchild, what a little prince, seriously.
Aside from Alice, that's the one book from my middle school days I'd toss out without a second thought.
boooooring 🥱
damn. I liked that kid from Sutla way better than those two little essays. 🤣

Why on earth would you think I care, or that anyone has any business sharing in my grief?🤔
And why on earth would you assume I’m sad? I am not sad—I am absolutely incensed by our American school system! I came here specifically to voice my frustrations, and since the topic has already been opened, I intend to use this space to say exactly what is on my mind.
You really don't have to read them; please, feel free to just skip right over my posts if you'd like!
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urbantinker8 said:Honestly, I'm having a hard time seeing where the actual issue lies🤷
what you're describing doesn't seem like some kind of nightmare, and I suppose nobody has ever been harmed by looking things up in a dictionary or checking an interpretation.
as for why your child has this assigned as reading material in second grade, well, I guess you'd probably have to ask her teacher about that.
it seems like she decided, for whatever reason, that the kids could handle it without any trouble, so maybe it's better to seek clarification from her rather than from us.

I post on these forums and vent because I can—that doesn't mean I'm doing it in front of my child. I explained the exact same thing to her: that her teacher believes they are ready for this material and that it's perfectly fine for people their age. My daughter doesn't see the issues I'm highlighting, whereas I am writing this because I am genuinely frustrated with certain aspects of our American school system. And frankly, I am certain that as time passes and my little one moves up through the grades, I will encounter even more things that bother me. Having worked in a classroom for fifteen years, I have found many things about our educational framework to be indescribably foolish, and now that I am viewing it through the lens of a parent, it irritates me all the even more. Our system is flawed in most respects, and it is only held together by the wonderful teachers who go above and beyond to mitigate those shortcomings.
My child's teachers are incredibly sweet women who work themselves to the bone. However, this is their first professional workplace; it's their first time running a classroom, and you can tell in many instances that they lack concrete experience with certain problems or topics beyond what they learned in their textbooks. I don't hold it against them—they are young, they are learning, and at one point, we were all standing in front of classrooms without any experience ourselves.
I suppose she has a different perspective regarding Pinocchio and the reading list and what children are capable of. Children can do just about anything; the real question is whether it is necessary to expend such immense effort and struggle on a specific task, or if it would be better to wait for a later time when the task is easier to master.
I don't intend to complain about the reading list itself; these women are simply doing the best they know how to do. My frustration lies more with those who decided to include this on a second-grade syllabus in the first place.
And yes, I am absolutely certain that over the coming years, I will find myself complaining about school matters quite often... so many things are just poorly handled.
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I find myself quite perplexed by this particular entry. It seems rather brief, almost skeletal in its composition! One does wonder what profound thoughts might have been intended behind such a minimalist expression, or perhaps it was simply a momentary lapse in digital communication? I shall remain poised for further elaboration. kaže:
He actually picked it up this past summer, and I have to say, he thoroughly enjoyed it!😉

I find myself quite preoccupied with the subject of chocolate cookies lately—truly, they have become an obsession! There is something about the chemistry of cocoa and sugar that strikes a chord within my soul. I was just reading a fascinating article about how certain artisanal bakeries in Seattle are elevating the standard recipe by using single-origin cacao, and it got me thinking about the sheer complexity of flavor profiles we often take for granted in our everyday snacks. I remember seeing a comment from Kate Cox2 regarding the importance of sea salt in dough, and I must say, I couldn't agree more! It is the subtle tension between the sweetness and the salinity that creates that sublime, lingering finish on the palate. Without it, one is merely eating sugar; with it, one is experiencing art. It brings to mind a rather long anecdote from my own kitchen experiments last Tuesday. I attempted to infuse my batch with a hint of espresso—much like what you might find at a high-end Starbucks—but I may have been a tad too heavy-handed with the grounds. The result was... robust, shall we say? Perhaps a bit too much "personality" for a casual afternoon snack. Nevertheless, the pursuit of the perfect cookie is a noble endeavor, wouldn't you all agree? It requires patience, precision, and perhaps a touch of madness. kaže:
What were the truly harrowing moments in Pinocchio? I remember being absolutely captivated by them when I was a little girl. 😁

I find myself quite preoccupied with the rhinoceros lately. It is such an imposing, singular creature, isn't it? There is something profoundly stoic about them—an almost heavy-hearted dignity that commands respect the moment they enter one's field of vision. I was reading a treatise on their social structures recently, and it struck me how much we can learn from their solitary nature. We live in such a loud, frantic world, constantly buzzing like hornets, yet here is this magnificent beast, moving through the brush with a quiet, unstoppable purpose. It makes one pause and reflect on the value of stillness. kaže:
It isn’t as if everyone actually has a Pinocchio; mine certainly didn't have one!
I believe she may have read it—though I can't say for certain—mostly because she keeps that particular book from the Planetoidia collection right at home. I seem to recall back in the day, we used to sit and read it to her quite often. Once she mastered her reading skills, she would dive into it all on her own!
I find this story to be truly beautiful. It honestly brings back such vivid memories from my own childhood. I simply cannot fathom why anyone would find this difficult to process; what exactly is the problem here?

The whole point of reading, isn't it, is to expand one's vocabulary? It stands to reason! Why on earth should we expect to walk away from a book knowing every single word already? That would defeat the entire purpose of picking up a book in the first place!

There are so many different versions out there, and honestly, it all comes down to whether the teacher knows which specific edition they want us using. In my case, my teacher used the version featuring Winnie the Pooh, but the classroom was split right down the middle—half the kids were reading one translation while the other half had another, and even the characters' names were inconsistent from book to book. It was quite a mess! Eventually, the teacher had to step in and write down exactly which edition everyone needed to follow to stay on the same page. 😬
I am of the firm belief that the situation with Peter Pan was quite similar—you know, with all those various different editions and versions floating around. Honestly, I find that particular story far more convoluted than even Pinocchio ever was for someone that age, so I can certainly see why some might not have experienced any specific childhood traumas from it. 🤷)

My apologies for the delayed response, but here it is...
Regarding what @frupy mentioned—honestly, I don't see the issue here at all! Even my own little one absolutely adored the story of Pinocchio. There is really nothing controversial about enjoying such a classic tale.

@nosorog, I have to say, my daughter was exactly the same way! Even back when she was only six years old, she’d be diving into books meant for third graders. It was quite a sight, really. Of course, there were countless words that flew right over her head—she didn't grasp half of them! But you know how children are; she would piece things together through context, ask me a question here or there, or sometimes she’d just let the confusing parts slide because, honestly, if it didn't impact the main plot, she simply didn't care to figure it out. She just wanted to get to the heart of the story!
There is a profound distinction between reading a book because it’s assigned for a class and reading one simply for the pure joy of it. When I am diving into a novel just for my own pleasure, I find myself quite willing to skim through a dense paragraph or even skip a page or two if the prose becomes exceptionally tedious. It is my time, after all! However, when you are tackling a required text for school, that luxury simply does not exist, does it? One must engage with the material in its entirety; you have to fully grasp every nuance and absorb the complete narrative if you ever hope to answer the professor's questions or participate meaningfully in a classroom discussion. You can't exactly take shortcuts when your grade depends on total comprehension!

There is another issue that has been weighing heavily on my mind lately—the whole matter of schoolwork. Generally speaking, I try to leave academic responsibilities entirely in my child’s hands. I firmly believe that if it is her duty, then it should be hers to manage, and I make a conscious effort not to interfere in her process. However, we hit a significant snag recently with a required reading assignment. To be perfectly honest, I had to step in because half of the book was simply over her head; she wouldn't have grasped the nuance or the context on her own. Now, don't get me wrong—it isn't that the material itself is difficult for me. We have always been a family of readers, and we spend a great deal of our time reading all sorts of things together. But this wasn't just leisure reading; this was strictly for school, which means it is technically *her* job to tackle. It creates such a strange dilemma for me! If my daughter usually handles everything independently, but this specific task requires an immense amount of my intervention and guidance just to make sense of it, then I struggle to see the point. What is the actual purpose of assigning something that necessitates parental hand-holding just to achieve the basic learning objective?
A handful of obscure terms...
- gunsmith
- planer
- ubiquitous
- accomplished
- sudden onset
- rascal
- woolen
- licking
- good fellow
- to grasp
- hypocritically
- yonder
- mire
- obstinate
- blessed
- dung
- to pull the wool over someone's eyes
- nonsense
- straw
- community
- to corner
-- just a few that I can recall. Most of them are defined at the end of the text, but you could flip through four or five pages searching for a single definition and find yourself stuck in an endless loop of looking things up until you're absolutely exhausted. To make matters worse, there were several words left unexplained entirely, and even Google couldn't identify what they meant. 😁
It doesn't really matter; my little one finished reading the story and wrote her book report, but that was more of a joint venture between the two of us, which honestly irritates me. While she was reading, she had moments of sheer despair unlike anything I've ever seen from her. Even though she eventually finished the book thinking the story was beautiful, she couldn't understand why teachers constantly assign such depressing stories for them to read... (it's like Pinocchio trying to sell a beginner's guide, for instance)
What really gets under my skin is that I simply don't understand why anyone would think this is a story intended for children who have only just started writing their own assignments. They were already reading and analyzing this together during class back in first grade.
Or perhaps other people are using a different translation, I haven't the slightest clue.
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urbantinker8 said:I never actually said that Pinocchio was some strange anomaly for the second grade. Once it was included on the suggested reading list, it wasn't really a shock, and I'm sure there are plenty of teachers picking it from that list of, let me repeat, 5 titles that students are supposed to read.
I suppose you didn't really need to call up all those colleagues.
Personally, I don't think it's difficult at all for that age group, and it certainly doesn't seem unrealistic to expect an eighth grader to manage it—let alone anyone else—but then again, it's not my call.🙂
And of course, it does have everything to do with engaged kids and strong readers—my kid will swallow 200 pages in one sitting, or maybe two days max, without any trouble. If she hits a word she doesn't know, she just asks. It's no big deal.

In that case, why not just hand him Pinocchio and see how he fares? Let us know how it goes...
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urbantinker8 said:Well, no, I suppose the horse isn't the one who put it there, since Pinocchio isn't exactly War and Peace.
For decent quotes and keeping eight-year-olds interested—it's really nothing controversial at all.

The general recommended reading list for second grade includes about 19 books, where only one is strictly required (those Andersen fairy tales), while the teacher gets to pick four others exclusively.

So, yeah, that’s about all I have to say regarding the horses.😁

Every single school in my city (and it's certainly not some tiny town) assigns Pinocchio to second graders. Just to satisfy my own curiosity, I reached out to some friends in Chicago, and they confirmed that at least three elementary schools there also teach Pinocchio in the second grade.
I have also confirmed this for two schools in San Diego and about a dozen schools across the Midwest. That is just based on my personal network—where I have friends working in schools or relatives with elementary-aged children.
The point is, Pinocchio isn't some bizarre outlier being read in second grade. I am not entirely sure if they are reading the original Pinocchio or some simplified adaptation, though I would assume it's the original.
Essentially, someone decided Pinocchio belongs in the second-grade curriculum. My only question is: who was this person who decided second graders could tackle Pinocchio all on their own? Did they ever actually look at a seven or eight-year-old child?

And let me be clear: this has nothing to do with whether kids are "interested readers." My own child is an exceptional reader and has been incredibly enthusiastic about books since she was very little. Last year, she was reading Anne Frank’s diaries all by herself. So, yes, she *can* read.
But this specific book contains such an overwhelming number of unfamiliar vocabulary words that it's frankly absurd... It simply isn't realistic to expect a second grader to navigate this independently.
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urbantinker8 said:Mine is also in second grade, and Pinocchio isn't on our list.
So, if you ask me, the only "idiot" in this scenario seems to be the teacher.😛

I was looking through the required reading lists recently, and it seems like *Pinocchio* is practically universal. It shows up on everyone's syllabus! I actually suspect it might even be mandatory at this point. While the specific books vary from one school district to another, there seems to be one constant thread: everyone has *Pinocchio* on their list.
Our supervisor only assigned it for the first of the month, so there's plenty of time to get it knocked out over the holiday weekend.
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I have to admit, I was a bit taken aback by the required reading list for second grade... it’s just some fairy tales, short stories, picture books, and then—Pinocchio. It’s a charming story, don't get me wrong, but there is absolutely NO WAY a seven-year-old can just tackle that book on their own... there are so many unfamiliar words, some of which I honestly don't even know the definitions of! There are such long, convoluted words and complex sentences that there's simply no theory that a child could process this independently. I mean, unless the kid is some kind of once-in-a-generation prodigy, this is strictly a job for the parents. I’ve been sitting right next to her for days, reading the material to her because she couldn't pronounce certain words even after five tries. Honestly, I really don't understand why some of my colleagues act like such jerks when parents actually step up to help at home, especially when certain parts of this curriculum aren't even age-appropriate to begin with.
It truly infuriated me.. here is a child who has lived in the local library since she could walk, someone we constantly pick up books for and read together—and yet, for the first time ever, she actually burst into tears while reading. She's an excellent reader, too. It really makes me wonder what kind of idiot decided this belonged in a second-grade syllabus.
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Harold Cook2 said:So, what's the deal with religious studies? If a kid is signed up for religion classes at school, does that mean they're basically forced to hit up Mass every single Sunday?

Nothing is mandatory, really. You have kids taking religious studies who never step foot in a church, or whose parents are completely atheist. In short, there isn't a direct link between the classroom and attending service.
Now, once they start preparing for First Communion, then yes—it is clearly expected that you'll be in the pews on Sundays. But honestly, I think that’s just implied if you actually want the sacraments. It’s about living out that faith and showing up because it matters to you, not just checking a box to get it over with.

It’s exactly like how you're expected to show up to every practice if you actually want to make the varsity team, for example...
My husband just underwent surgery on both Achilles tendons. Following the procedure, he had to be in a cast for six full weeks. For the first two weeks, it was positioned extremely high, and then for the remainder of the time, it went up to his knee. He also completed physical therapy over at the Cleveland clinic for ten days, though he actually ended up doing two full cycles, totaling twenty days of treatment. Interestingly, no one ever mentioned anything about hot springs or hydrotherapy during any part of this process.
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Richard Perez3 said:I honestly can't wrap my head around how you even begin a conversation with someone who truly believes that picking one out of four multiple-choice options is some kind of gold standard for measuring actual skill or expertise—and I don't even mean the tricky questions, just the basic ones.

I guess I'm just at a loss.

This just reminded me of something.
The other day, at one of those high-end Ivy League universities, a professor was actually asked to dumb down his exams.
Apparently, because their students aren't exactly cut out for the heavy lifting, the faculty doesn't want to "depress" them.
They literally asked this guy to make the test easier.
Like, turn it into a basic multiple-choice thing.
🤦🤦
Honestly, I find myself caught between laughter and pure despair every single time a close friend of mine—who happens to be a doctor teaching at a top-tier medical school—tells me his stories. He mentions how even during the third and fourth years, students show up to exams accompanied by their mothers! And it isn't just once, either; a mother will storm into his office after her child fails, practically shouting, "But I quizzed them on everything at home, and they knew all the answers!" 🙂
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I honestly don't follow the logic here—is she just allowed to opt out of discussing a story simply because she finds it uninteresting? Is that the standard now? If she decides she isn't feeling an art project, she just won't do it? Is that perfectly acceptable? By that reasoning, when she’s faced with a tedious English assignment, will she just skip that too? Or math? Good grief. You simply complete the task at hand if you want a decent grade. If you don't care about the grade, then fine, settle for a D or an F, but be fully aware that there are consequences (which, frankly, are for the parent to decide).
It doesn't bother me one bit if she receives a lower grade than she anticipated when she's struggling with a concept... she can just practice and improve. But if she simply refuses to try? Well, that's a different conversation entirely, and we would handle that very differently at home...
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Larry Walker24 said:I'm guessing you guys are Protestant, 😉

But why does that matter... in what way is that significant? 🤔
Or are we simply playing a guessing game here? 🤷