Posts by graniteharbor502

wiredseal7 said:I just hope they actually stay objective this time and stick to the rulebook—kind of like how they handled Vettel back in Canada. Not that anyone's counting, but that disqualification basically handed Hamilton an extra three points on a silver platter.

A new clip of Max's movement just surfaced—
I can't believe people are still acting surprised when things go sideways—it’s like watching the same rerun of a bad sitcom every single week. At this point, you just have to expect the chaos.

What an idiot. 🤦
There wasn't really any force involved—he just grazed it with his finger, if he even actually touched it at all. It’s pretty hard to believe that could cause any real damage or shift the wing setup. From what I'm reading, the stewards seized the wing for an inspection, so hopefully they'll confirm that a light touch like that couldn't possibly alter anything... which wouldn't be surprising.

Of course Mercedes is going to jump on that—it’s their lifeline, maybe even their only shot at staying relevant. It definitely muddled the whole procedure and dragged out the decision, probably just giving Toto Wolff more breathing room to lobby the FIA.😈

Since he went against the sporting regulations, they’re saying anything could happen—a warning, a fine, some points docked from his license, or maybe even a 3 to 5-place grid penalty. It's basically a toss-up at this point.

Any driver moving back towards the racing
line, having earlier defended his position off-
line, should leave at least one car width
between his own car and the edge of the
track on the approach to the corner.
However, manoeuvres liable to hinder other
drivers, such as deliberate crowding of a car
beyond the edge of the track or any other
abnormal change of direction, are strictly
prohibited. Any driver who appears guilty of
any of the above offences will be reported to
the Stewards

Elizabeth Mendoza said:Look, I don't get why everyone is suddenly acting like Max bumping into Lewis Hamilton's car is such a massive scandal. It’s funny how people react. If we're talking about being nosy, Sebastian Vettel is probably the most famous guy on the grid for poking around other people's cars—especially Lewis Hamilton's. I mean, I'm pretty sure he spent days practically feeling out the entire bodywork of that Ferrari.

Raymond Anderson4 said:We’re all still sitting here waiting on Lewis's penalty, even though the decision was clearly made. 😁

Or maybe they just took Max Verstappen aside for some testing to see if he actually has some supernatural strength in his hands. 🙏

wiredseal7 said:It happened back in the spring. After the US Grand Prix, Toto Wolff was crying about the Red Bull Racing wing flexing, and suddenly NASCAR rolls out much stricter tests. Then, right after the whining before the Baku Grand Prix, NASCAR introduces those little markers to check deflection—all while Toto threatens an appeal. In response, Red Bull Racing just brings a wing that doesn't flex at all to dodge the protests entirely.

The pit stop rule changes are just as shady—they shouldn't have touched that until the season ended—but since Toto was salty that his crew was slower, NASCAR just leveled the playing field.

On the flip side, when Red Bull Racing complained about the Mercedes front wing flexing, NASCAR didn't do a damn thing.

There's no way they're going to penalize Lewis Hamilton. When things drag on this long, it usually means they're busy cooking up some loophole or excuse to let him off easy.

Jacob Castillo70 said:Just an hour before the start of qualifying, the Red Bull Racing technical staff entered the office with a massive amount of data and video footage regarding the Mercedes rear wing.

Is this how they plan to grab the headlines? Seriously?

Drew Bennett68 said:Well, isn't that just just typical? It turns out Hamilton's DRS failed inspection:

“The uppermost rear wing element adjustable positions were checked on car number 44 for compliance with Article 3.6.3 of the 2021 Formula 1 Technical Regulations,” Bauer noted. “The requirement for the minimum distance was fulfilled. But the requirement for the maximum of 85mm, when the DRS system is deployed and tested in accordance with TD/011-19, were not fulfilled.”

https://www.racefans.net/2021/11/12/...in-qualifying/

Talk about a bombshell!

Drew Bennett68 said:That’s just what happens when you’ve got two heavy hitters running on Red Bull's tracks.

James Harris34 said:So basically, when Max is winning, it's because of Max, but the second he isn't on top, the car is a total junker.

shadowmarlin22 said:Nah, it’s about Lewis.
Even on a Mercedes-Benz track, Bottas isn't going to touch an RB.
Getting past Max during the race is going to be a nightmare—we should probably expect some aggressive driving from him.

Jacob Castillo70 said:Lujo was truly impressive today.

Linda Peterson43 said:Does that five-place penalty apply to the race on Sunday or the one on Saturday?
The way I see it, they’re running qualifying for the sprint this Saturday... then, based on those sprint results (which is still a full-blown race, right?), they move on to the main race on Sunday...
So, which specific session does this penalty actually hit? 🙂

will drop him five grid places for Sunday's race – but will not affect his starting position in the NFL Sunday Night Football

Raymond Anderson4 said:What exactly is he looking for here? I mean, why would being on the racing line be considered an offense? He moved to the right specifically to avoid any potential contact, and in my estimation, he wasn't even attempting an aggressive overtake; he was nowhere near forcing his way past.
Furthermore, we simply don't have the data regarding Bottas's velocity at that specific moment, and if he happened to be traveling too slowly when the contact occurred, then perhaps the fault lies with him for making himself such an easy target.

wiredseal7 said:This feels remarkably similar to that Verstappen-Kimi situation at Spa-Francorchamps two years ago.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/v...548327799.html

I am inclined to believe that was also just a racing incident; could one not argue that Kimi might have conceded a bit more room, leaving Max with nowhere to go?

Raymond Anderson4 said:In this specific scenario, one might be tempted to blame Daniel Ricciardo for failing to brake sooner, but if you look at the image, Valtteri Bottas is positioned to the left; however, as the frames progress, he drifts further and further to the right until contact occurs.
I spent some time reviewing the footage today, rewinding the sequence several times, and it seems to me that Daniel Ricciardo maintains his intended line without ever making an erratic steering input that would precipitate such a collision; he simply follows his trajectory through the corner, and I truly see no issue with the path Daniel Ricciardo took, especially since, at the exact moment of impact, half of his car is already on the curb, which leads me to believe he actually afforded Valtteri Bottas quite a bit of space.
If you observe his steering wheel, it is already turned into the corner at that precise moment, whereas Valtteri Bottas isn't even particularly close to him.
In my estimation, this doesn't warrant a penalty; it is nothing more than a racing incident.

Raymond Anderson4 said:The whole situation involving Ricciardo Bottas is quite a dilemma, isn't it? Perhaps some might argue it warrants a penalty, yet I find myself hesitant to support one. In my estimation, the blame is split right down the middle at fifty-fifty. While one could suggest that Ricciardo ought to have braked a bit more decisively—given he had a clear view of the unfolding circumstances—I would also contend that Bottas was perhaps a touch too aggressive when cutting into the corner, ultimately colliding with Ricciardo's front wing.