Posts by graniteharbor502

If Red Bull doesn't manage to secure that front row during qualifying today, I truly fear they may never see it happen. They look quite formidable, don't they?

An algorithmic estimation of velocity:

ruggedhawk20 said:Here is the schedule!

Today:
Free Practice 3 6PM
Qualifying 7PM

Tomorrow:
The Race 7PM

Mexico GP

1. Max Verstappen
2. Lewis Hamilton
3. Sergio Perez
4. Valtteri Bottas
5. Charles Leclerc
6. Pierre Gasly
7. Sebastian Vettel
8. Lando Norris
9. Fernando Alonso
10. Kimi Räikkönen
11. Esteban Ocon
12. Lance Stroll
13. Antonio Giovinazzi
14. Daniil Kvyat
15. Nicholas Latifi
16. Mick Schumacher
17. Mazan

NOP SAI
NOP Ricciardo
NOP Tsunoda

PP Max Verstappen
FL Max Verstappen

It seems the Americans have once again secured the top spots during the first practice session, mirroring their impressive performance back in Austin.
According to our algorithmic speed projections:

John Coltrane As I was contemplating the matter, it occurred to me that one might ask...
I cannot help but wonder, what might have been if Daniel Ricciardo had actually remained at Red Bull Racing? It is one of those lingering, quiet questions that settles in the mind during the long stretches between races, isn't it? One finds oneself tracing the divergent paths of careers, contemplating how a single decision or a sudden change in momentum can alter the entire trajectory of a driver's legacy within the sport. If he had stayed put, would we be looking at a completely different dynamic within the garage today? It is a fascinating, if somewhat melancholy, thought to dwell upon.

It seems that Daniel Ricciardo has made his exit from Red Bull Racing, having realized there was simply nothing left for him to achieve while staring at the back of Max Verstappen's car in an identical machine. One cannot help but wonder if this cycle was inevitable, much like the departures we witnessed with Daniil Kvyat, Pierre Gasly, and Alexander Albon? It appears, however, that Daniel Ricciardo possessed the distinct advantage of leveraging his significant reputation to secure a seat with another team. Looking back at his final season driving for Red Bull Racing, he finished a staggering 79 points behind Max Verstappen; does that gap not tell the entire story of his struggle to find footing within that lineup?

Roger Wright94 said:Lewis Hamiltonmaxf1.net):
"I truly believe I am mentally tougher than I have ever been," remarked Lewis Hamilton, who is now navigating his fifteenth season in Formula 1.
I often find myself reflecting on how much of this journey boils down to that single realization. It seems to me that while I have felt mentally resilient for quite some time now, there has been a profound shift recently—a sense that I have become even more unshakable than before. Is it possible that true strength isn't just about reaching a certain level of fortitude, but rather about the continuous, quiet process of hardening one's resolve against the world? I truly believe that is where the heart of the matter lies.

It appears that Lewis Hamilton is performing better now than he ever has before, which leads one to wonder if the true catalyst here is actually the car itself?

Does anyone happen to have a direct link to the original statement? 😁

Sam Clark75 said:When he claims to be "stronger than ever," one can't help but wonder if it isn't merely a bit of wishful thinking on his part? He might very well mean that he is mentally more resilient than he has ever been—and perhaps that is true—but we cannot simply ignore the reality that his recent seasons have been plagued by what can only be described as amateurish blunders. Is it not true that we have seen him press the wrong button at the start of a race, or perhaps that moment where he found himself isolated on the grid because he opted not to change tires? And then, of course, there was that instance where he charged straight into the wall while entering the pits. Those are just the first three mistakes that immediately come to mind when one reflects on his performance.

If he can just cultivate some genuine mental toughness, perhaps the sting of defeat won't feel quite so heavy. Wouldn't that also provide him with the perfect material for those little motivational posts people love to share on Instagram? 🤣

I fear you have overlooked this absolute little gem—a true masterclass in navigating the wet track.

James Harris34 said:It is quite obvious who the fool is here. All the statistics, along with every single eminent expert out there, confirm that Red Bull Racing possesses the finest car on the grid this season, but clearly, you believe yourself to be more intelligent than everyone else.

The fact that you choose to label someone a fool carries very little weight, does it not? Because if one truly wishes to be perceived as a serious individual, one must move beyond merely tossing out quick one-liners and instead make a concerted effort to present actual evidence to support their claims.

For instance, it is certainly not an established fact that all statistics prove Red Bull Racing has the best car; if we look at the specific data I previously shared, the conclusion might differ significantly. 🙄

And as for these "eminent experts" you mention, would you be so kind as to provide a single credible source?

James Harris34 said:Absolute nonsense.

Bottas? I find myself inclined to agree with you there.

frozenheron7 said:I am speaking about the current state of affairs, rather than some vague seasonal average.
It seems entirely evident that Red Bull currently possesses the strongest car on the grid, even if Mercedes and Red Bull might have appeared more evenly matched at the start of the season.
And given that particular reality, I find myself doubting whether Mercedes—specifically Lewis Hamilton—can truly contend for the championship and stage a comeback in these final few races, now that Red Bull has gained such incredible momentum.

In Turkey, Mercedes was actually the superior car.🤷

Pole positions
Bottas 2
Perez 0

Average qualifying position>
Bottas 4
Perez 6.65

Wins>
Bottas 1
Perez 1

Podiums>
Bottas 9
Perez 4

Points>
Bottas 185
Perez 150

Laps led during the race>
Bottas 76
Perez 34

So, there we have it, if one wishes to look at the data to see who truly stands out through sheer merit and whose machinery simply holds the edge. Is it not interesting how the numbers tell such a clear story?
And let us not even begin to dwell upon those unfortunate errors made by a certain driver from Mercedes...

frozenheron7 said:You seem to be blending a bit of trolling with actual facts here.

Fact 1: Ricciardo is, at the very least, a perfectly solid driver.
Fact 2: Ricciardo is actually a better driver than Max Verstappen.

One simply needs to look at the facts with true objectivity, and nothing more.

Perhaps you should write a letter to Red Bull Racing and try to open their eyes.🙄

frozenheron7 said:Given the sheer magnitude of the rocket they’ve constructed over at Red Bull Racing, wouldn't anything less than this outcome be nothing short of a miracle?
And one can't help but wonder, what might have happened if a driver of significant caliber—someone like Daniel Ricciardo, for instance—were actually behind the wheel of that machine? I shudder to even contemplate it, but the season would likely have been decided a long, long time ago.

Nice try. Perhaps attempt a more sophisticated troll next time.🕺

Raymond Anderson4 As specified by:
Could one even begin to fathom how much tension is currently building within the constructors' championship standings, given that we are seeing such a fierce struggle between the likes of Mercedes-Red Bull, Ferrari-McLaren, and even the Alpine-Aston Martin outfits? It really makes you wonder, doesn't it? When you look at the sheer volatility of the points gap, one has to ask if any of these teams can truly maintain their current momentum, or if the pressure of these high-stakes battles will eventually cause someone to falter just when it matters most.

I find myself sitting here, contemplating the future and attempting to peer through the fog of what is yet to come, wondering if my own intuition might hold some weight. I am making a prediction. It appears that Mercedes managed to secure both the first and second positions during qualifying, which leads one to wonder if we are truly witnessing a shift in the competitive landscape. Is it possible that their technical direction has finally yielded such decisive results?

Then, one can only assume that the front row is practically guaranteed for Red Bull Racing. 😁

ruggedscout76 said:Dear 🙏 🙏 🙏

We are finally 🙂

😁

USA GP

1. Max Verstappen
2. Sergio Perez
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Valtteri Bottas
5. Lando Norris
6. Charles Leclerc
7. Daniel Ricciardo
8. Lance Stroll
9. Pierre Gasly
10. Sebastian Vettel
11. Esteban Ocon
16. Kimi Räikkönen
13. Pierre Gasly
14. Kimi Räikkönen
15. Nicholas Latifi
16. MSC 17.
17. MAZ

NOP SAI
NOP TSU
NOP ALO

PP Max Verstappen
FL Max Verstappen

Simply so you have something to complain about 🤷

stormybadger8 said:Wrong.
The moderator is only making a call because you won't stop whining about how "it isn't clear" and how "problematic the situation is." 🙂
Let's be real: it couldn't be any clearer, unless we're just lying to ourselves...

And worst of all, I get the feeling they're deciding this way just because your username is black. 🤦
Right now, I'm actually embarrassed that my own username is black...
So there it is, before I lose my manners...

I didn't follow how the points were handed out in Monaco, but if a review is needed, fine...
But that situation has nothing to do with this one. This current issue is already laid out in the existing rulebook as clear as day...

The elegant way to handle this is to refer to an official document. The FIA's preliminary results cover everything, including FL (which isn't necessarily the fastest lap of the race, but the fastest lap among those scoring points), but we don't have PP listed there. The closest thing is the qualifying results, which you refuse to acknowledge even though they clearly state the PP lap.

Stop reinventing the wheel.
There's a document called the "Final starting grid" that shows exactly where everyone is positioned, and it covers absolutely every scenario, including that famous Monaco mess. ☕

And what on earth is this "FL" you're talking about that—according to you and only you—isn't necessarily the fastest lap of the race? 🙄

Singapore GP:
https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ce-result.html
https://www.formula1.com/en/results....test-laps.html
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...sification.pdf

Kevin Magnussen gets an FL even though he wasn't even in the points, and that's assuming they were already handing out points for FL back then...
Stop making up problems where they don't exist.

I have no objection to assigning Valtteri Bottas the PP for this race. However, we really ought to amend the rule. That is the core of the matter. I don't have any issues whatsoever with the moderator's decision.

stormytiger4 said:The moderator only asked the question because seven people voted for Hamilton even though everyone knew he was going to get penalized. Out of those seven, six of them didn't actually get what was being looked at—they just didn't know. As for the last one, you, I can't tell if you just didn't know or if you just didn't get it. Honestly, the moderator's only mistake here was asking the question in the first place. But he did it, like he said, just so it wouldn't look like he was playing favorites.

We'll get the voting results and the final standings from the last Race tomorrow. Once the championship wraps up, we can sit down and hash out what we should be watching. So, please, everyone just stop with the unnecessary drama.

If we are going to stick strictly to the letter of the law, then I must insist that the points for Monaco be revised.
It is always such an elegant thing when we have a concrete document to refer to, isn't it? The FIA's preliminary results cover everything, including the FL (which isn't necessarily the fastest lap of the entire race, but rather the fastest lap among those scoring points), yet we find no mention of the PP there. The closest thing we have are the qualifying results, which you all refuse to recognize, despite the fact that they clearly state the PP lap.

stormytiger4 said:The Race Director really does make the calls when things fall through the cracks of the rulebook. But honestly, that’s not even the point here. The real issue is just that some drivers were totally left in the dark about how penalties actually work when the qualifying winner gets hit. Not knowing the rules isn't really anyone's problem except for the person who's confused. From where I'm sitting, if you just stop obsessing over the lack of clarity, you're basically just making drama out of how people interpret the regulations.

Which specific rule are we discussing?

edit:
it was actually the moderator who initially raised the question about how to calculate that PP.

The way this rule is currently phrased feels open to far too many interpretations, wouldn't you agree? It really ought to be refined.

The race director ultimately holds the power when things get messy, and frankly, that is exactly what we are facing right now. We have a genuine problem on our hands. The current rule regarding the PP isn't formulated with enough clarity, which has understandably left several folks on the forums feeling quite confused. It feels as though we need to take decisive action and refine it; after all, shouldn't the entire goal of this game be centered around clarity and transparency? Shouldn't we strive for a system where everything is crystal clear rather than one that relies so heavily on subjective interpretation? Up until this point, we haven't explicitly specified which document serves as the ultimate authority for the PP category. Therefore, we have developed a proposed set of rules that defines this distinction very clearly.

stormybadger8 said:Some people even put Kubica in their predictions, so what then?
We should probably change the rules for him too, right? 🙂

I put Hamilton in my prediction, and lo and behold, I’m one of those infamous seven...
But hey, that’s my own fault for sticking with an old prediction.
My mistake shouldn't be used as an excuse to strip someone else of points they actually earned according to the rulebook.☕

If someone was too lazy to read the rules... that's on them.
If someone was too lazy to write a new prediction... that's on them.
If someone didn't realize Hamilton had a penalty... that's on them.
If someone just copied my prediction, or graniteharbor502's, or whoever... that's also on them.

Changing the rules retroactively makes zero sense, especially when the rules are already crystal clear.
Do whatever you want, but leave me out of it. I'm done playing this game. Period.
The idea of "voting" on something so obvious is a joke—let alone stripping players of deserved points just so someone else can get them undeservedly...

The new rule won't be applied retroactively; instead, it will take effect starting from the next Race.