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2010 Spanish Grand Prix (Circuit of Americas) in Formula 1 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Starting a whole new thread just by copy-pasting from Wikipedia? That's a bold move. 🤦

Well, if you think you have a better way to do things, why don't you go ahead and start the next one?
If you don't, maybe it's best to just stay quiet.
☕
China's economy: What's the move? in Formula 1 ·
China's influence over Vietnam ended a long time ago ☕
China's economy: What's the move? in Formula 1 ·
bluehawk3 said:anyone with half a brain should be able to see...
btw, I’m going to quote and comment on whatever I want, however I want, without following any of your little rules. Honestly, who do you think you are?

Peace! 😠

You’ll quote and comment politely and reasonably, just like everyone else on this forum, or you're going to have to deal with me.☕
And don't even think about asking me who I think I am.🙂
China's economy: What's the move? in Formula 1 ·
Here are a few interesting statistics for you all to chew on 🙂

Race:

- Looking at the history of the F1 US Grand Prix, it actually ranks eleventh for the most overtakes (and holds the top spot from the last two decades). The only Grand Prix with more than 50 overtakes was the US Grand Prix, which saw 52

Code : race year overtaking
Race Year Overtakes
USA West 1983 79
Mexico 1990 70
Brazil 1983 68
Portugal 1989 67
Australia 1986 67
South Africa 1984 66
Netherlands 1983 65
Japan 1988 65
Portugal 1984 63
Austria 1987 62
China 2010 62

- At this US Grand Prix, Lewis Hamilton holds the record for the most overtakes (10), followed by Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa (8). Heikki Kovalainen has been overtaken the most often (15), while Michael Schumacher was the victim eight times
- Interestingly, in three out of the four races held this year, we've seen a 1-2 finish for a single team, and it’s been a different team every single time
- This marks the first McLaren 1-2 since the 2007 Italian Grand Prix
- It is also the first British 1-2 since the 1999 Australian Grand Prix (featuring Michael Irvin and David Coulthard)
- The US Grand Prix has been a wet one in four out of the last five times it was held
- Jenson Button has now become the seventh different winner of the US Grand Prix out of the seven times it has been hosted in Shanghai
- McLaren secured the fastest lap of the race for the first time since the 2008 Chinese Grand Prix
- Nico Rosberg achieved back-to-back podiums for the first time in his career
- Vitaly Petrov scored his very first career points
- For the first time since the 2008 Chinese Grand Prix - Red Bull, Renault has managed to get both cars into the points
- For the first time in the last six races, Red Bull wasn't leading the Grand Prix from the start (even though they took pole, Fernando Alonso got a better jump off the line, meaning Red Bull didn't lead for even a second)
- Felipe Massa's finishing positions have steadily declined in every race this season (2, 3, 7, 9)
- So far this season, Sauber has completed only a quarter of the total race distance, and Kamui Kobayashi has managed less than a tenth
- This is only the second time in history that Mercedes has achieved a 1-3 finish. The first and only time prior to this was the 1955 British Grand Prix (Stirling Moss, Juan Manuel Fangio, and Hans Herrmann)

Qualifying:

- Red Bull has secured their fourth consecutive pole position this year. The last time someone pulled that off was the 2007 Ferrari squad during their championship-winning run
- Jenson Button has qualified ahead of Lewis Hamilton for the third race in a row. The last time Hamilton experienced such a streak was last year, spanning from the Monaco Grand Prix to the British Grand Prix


British Grand Prix small hint for the championship:


- Seven out of the 24 drivers qualified in the exact same positions for the US Grand Prix, Australia, and Bahrain
- The same group of 10 drivers made it into Q3 for both the US Grand Prix and Bahrain
Is the new Formula 1 track actually worth it? in Formula 1 ·
urbanowl96 said:One really ought to consider the fact that nearly all the revenue from sponsors whose advertisements are broadcast on television flows directly to Bernie.

As I mentioned before, I was being quite generous with my estimates 😬

The trackside advertising is handled by a separate entity entirely, and frankly, only Bernie knows how all those companies interact—and how they all manage to funnel money right into his pocket. 👎
Is the new Formula 1 track actually worth it? in Formula 1 ·
silentpilot6 said:I started a discussion over on the economics subforum regarding how we could have potentially hosted a Formula 1 race back in the day—at least, that's what the rumors were when things were looking up for the elites and Bernie 😁—but due to our usual, typical American 😬 incompetence, it never actually materialized.
Link:

Furthermore, within that same thread, the question of whether an F1 track is actually profitable came up. From what I've read, any circuit should fully pay for itself within two or three years.
Some people are arguing that isn't the case... I'm hoping there are folks here who might know a bit more about this specific issue, so please feel free to weigh in either here or on the linked thread.

Thank you.


Let's look at an example using a hypothetical track in a neighboring country like Mexico.

Construction costs: 250 million dollars.
Paying Bernie to run the race: 50 million dollars.
And let's assume operational overhead is roughly the same amount.

So, we're looking at a five-year window with total expenses hitting 750 million dollars (including track maintenance).

If we assume the venue is sold out every single year, we might see about 15 million dollars in ticket revenue annually. That brings us to 75 million over five years, which covers only about 10% of our costs.

Now, consider the sponsors. Suppose we have something like a Walmart Grand Prix where they generously shell out 100 million dollars over those five years.

That brings us up to 175 million, or 23% of the cost.

If they manage to pull in another 100 to 150 million from other sponsors, we're sitting at 325 million, or 43%.

But then, someone's cousin inevitably steps in and skims off 25 million, leaving us back at 300 million, or 40%.

What's left? Even if side attractions bring in another 100 million over five years, we're still only at 400 million—about 53%.

Renting out the track usually just covers its own upkeep and maybe turns a tiny profit.

I think it's pretty obvious that I've been quite generous with my estimates here, so... the math simply doesn't add up.👎
China's economy: What's the move? in Formula 1 ·
Man, I really shouldn't have had that extra drink last night. I made it home just in time for the race, only to end up sleeping through about three-quarters of it. Honestly, I didn't even have a clue who took the win until two hours ago. 🤣🤣🤣
Luckily, you guys were relatively civil in the comments, so I don't have to slog through a mountain of nonsense to catch up, right? 😬
China's economy: What's the move? in Formula 1 ·
Brenda Jones7 said:Ferstar and mistybear87, why on earth are you guys playing farm simulator in the middle of a race? 😲 🤣

What kind of farm are we even talking about here? 🤷
China's economy: What's the move? in Formula 1 ·
Nicole Reyes97 said:😲 What a total mess, 😲 I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like this in my life 🙏

Monza 2000 ☕
China Grand Prix in Formula 1 ·
Frank Collins85 said:When you’re hitting about 185 mph and your wheels just fly off, it tends to give a person a bit of a shock... though maybe not Kimi Räikkönen! 😍 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAgvS61J89U

My brakes actually gave out on me today while I was doing 31 milesmph, and let me tell you, it wasn't exactly a pleasant experience—much less if I had been cruising at 185. 🤣🤣🤣
I mean, my biggest fear was slamming into a line of traffic on the interstate and losing whatever little extra cash I have left in my savings, but still... 😬
Now I’m stuck without $400 for some new rotors, pads, and brake fluid. 👎
China Grand Prix in Formula 1 ·
Adam King said:mistybear87, we aren't talking about 2 or 3 tons of pressure here
It’s actually a matter of fatigue strength. Now, how much was that specifically for that linkage? I'm not entirely sure, but you calculate that in MPa—basically Newtons per square millimeter (N/mm²). Since a Newton is a unit of force—you know, mass multiplied by gravitational acceleration—you can take any mass, multiply it by acceleration, and get a force value. From there, you divide by the surface area to find the stress, which is essentially the pressure. It gets a bit more complex than that, of course, but I highly doubt we're looking at 2 or 3 tons per square millimeter. In mechanical engineering, the square millimeter is the standard unit for surface area under load. I suspect the number is much lower, or perhaps you meant 2 or 3 tons distributed across the entire surface? If that's the case, then certainly 😁
But let's not get bogged down in the weeds; we can leave those specifics to the engineers over at the Red Bull Racing team. 😬

An empty car weighs roughly 1,330 lbs, and with fuel, Sebastien Buemi might have been pushing over 1,500 lbs. When you factor in braking forces hitting around 5Gs at that specific moment, you're easily looking at a minimum of 6,600 lbs of force.
Of course, that 6,600 lbs isn't being applied to every single tiny component of the car. However, the front axle definitely took on at least 4,400 lbs of that load—meaning roughly 2,200 lbs per wheel, give or take. It seems pretty obvious that one of the mounts just couldn't handle the strain, and well, there you have it. 🙂
China Grand Prix in Formula 1 ·
Adam King said:Buemiev's front suspension just completely disintegrated, wheels and all! (YouTube link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaQwWG0yBZM

I'm not entirely sure what happened, but I suspect the suspension components and bearings were made from a material that was far too brittle—low toughness, you know? When hit with those sudden impact forces, it probably acted just like glass. Glass is incredibly hard, sure, but it’s also extremely brittle; you drop it on the floor, and it just shatters into pieces.

Honestly, guys, it's already been explained. They were using a new upright design on the suspension that clearly wasn't up to the task. That single mounting point snapped, and once that happened, the rest of the assembly couldn't handle the load—we're talking about maybe 2 or 3 tons of pressure there—so everything just splintered apart, much like how carbon fiber tends to fail.
Anyway, they've already reverted back to the old mounts, so there shouldn't be any more issues moving forward.👍
China Grand Prix in Formula 1 ·
Lisa Davis10 said:I can't quite tell if it's just a more intense video or if those background noises are getting to me. :meow: 🤣

Honestly, where is the real entertainment? Watching Buemiev fighting the steering wheel the entire time despite having no wheels at all. 😂😂😂😂
China Grand Prix in Formula 1 ·
Oh man, looks like Alonsu just torched yet another engine 🤣🤣🤣🤣
China Grand Prix in Formula 1 ·
It looks like my front suspension has completely given up on me 🤣🤣🤣

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I mean, seriously, it’s looking like a literal line on a blueprint 🤣🤣🤣
China Grand Prix in Formula 1 ·
Adam Jones said:Well, damn. More earthquakes in China? It feels like things are starting to slide downhill, and honestly, I’m not sure it bodes well...👎

Don't sweat it too much. It's quite a long way off, and besides, the Chinese authorities will move heaven and earth to keep everything under control.😉
Cardboarding criteria (NASCAR PDF) in Feedback & Suggestions ·
so I can finally close this discussion

Pila, first off, when you asked me to bring you back into the Formula 1 PDF, one of my conditions was that you’d settle down and keep things chill. You have been anything but that.
Secondly, you actually typed out your insult in a post where you were quoting someone else; Jordi wasn't quoting anyone here. That single fact alone is enough reason for me to give him a pass while being much harder on you.
Thirdly, you have eleven pages of various infractions under your belt—so where exactly did you get the idea that people are just going to overlook any post of yours that could be interpreted two different ways? By default, we’re always going to assume the "worse" interpretation in cases like this.
Fourthly, even putting those three points aside, I still find myself giving you far too many chances whenever someone reports one of your posts and you just insist on having it your way.

Fifthly, I've said my piece, and as far as I'm concerned, this conversation is over.
China Grand Prix in Formula 1 ·
Joshua Newman2 said:Maybe maminho will pull off a real grand opening, and then mistybear87 can pin this whole thread to the top. 🤷

Even a moderator can't fight against time ☕
China Grand Prix in Formula 1 ·
cosmicridge5 said:And then the moderator trolls the very person who reported them 😲 by making such a blatant violation of the community guidelines 😲...

That user has to be someone's clone; honestly, 😕

Honey, I already changed my password 🤣 🤣 🤣
Ford pulls out of NASCAR in Formula 1 ·
It’s highly likely the whole thing about the rearview mirrors is just another April Fools' prank too; honestly, I wouldn't be surprised one bit 🙂