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US Grand Prix (Indianapolis) 10.07.2012 in Formula 1 ·
Nathan Jones98 said:Instead of just fixing that wind tunnel issue the second it popped up—they’ve basically dragged it out until now. Honestly, they should all just be fired at once.
But yeah, if some miracle doesn't happen right now or over in Korea, Sebastian Vettel is losing this championship.


Come on. Even with the wind tunnel situation in Maranello, Ferrari still has plenty of other tunnels at their disposal. Money talks.

That’s why they use the Toyota one over in Cologne.
US Grand Prix (Indianapolis) 10.07.2012 in Formula 1 ·
There’s been some talk about that new wing from the Singapore GP, specifically regarding those modified lower endplate sections.

Word is, the upper portion of the wing performed just fine in Singapore, but the lower part of the endplates—the bits designed to pull air from the diffuser—didn't quite behave the way the folks at Ferrari expected.

Since they only brought one single version of that new rear wing to Singapore😁, they didn't really have any room to run tests.
US Grand Prix (Indianapolis) 10.07.2012 in Formula 1 ·
Amanda Kelly said:Is there any resident optimist (if you can even call them that) planning on catching FP tonight?


I won't be watching the first, the second, or heaven forbid, the third. 😁

Though, I probably should.
We're expecting some aero package updates.
US Grand Prix (Indianapolis) 10.07.2012 in Formula 1 ·
It’s a bit early to be calling the shots on the weather, but let’s see what the National Weather Service has to say.

There's a decent chance we'll see some rain, especially on Sunday.
Temperatures look like they'll stay relatively low.

Hmm....
US Grand Prix (Indianapolis) 10.07.2012 in Formula 1 ·
stormybadger8 As requested:
You got a little mixed up there again... It was 8, not 9... at least when it comes to Suzuki.☕

Well, look at that. For the first time in five or six years, you actually managed to catch me in an error. 🙂

stormybadger8 Asks:
So, being very, very, very... optimistic here: I’m expecting Lojzek to miss Q3, finish outside the points, and for Sebastian Vettel to take the win.😁
Let's go. Four PP, four exits from the top 10 for Lojzek, and a four-point gap. 👋

You’re being incredibly optimistic. 🙂
Ultimately, as a fan of Sebastian Vettel, what else is there left for you to do before the upcoming US GP?

Sebastian Vettel misses the win, and Fernando Alonso settles for a podium? What a disaster.
Sebastian Vettel wins, Fernando Alonso gets a podium—what a disaster.
Alonso winning? What a complete disaster.
Sebastian Vettel is pulling out? What a disaster.

Maybe a win for Sebastian Vettel and Alonso finishing off the podium—or even outside the points entirely? That’s really the only scenario that works for you.

Even if we look at putting Sebastian Vettel into some sort of logical winning combination... it just doesn't work.
It’s highly unlikely that we'll see Alonso pulling out. Would he really walk away now? Unlikely.

Optimism and hope... things you can't quite get a grip on, let alone bank on when you're chasing a world championship.
US Grand Prix (Indianapolis) 10.07.2012 in Formula 1 ·
stormybadger8 said:Look, it's not Vettel's fault he's younger than Alonso.🤷

And no, the comparison isn't relevant.🤣
It would be a complete miss if I were talking about an average qualifying position at Indianapolis.
And if you actually think none of the cars from 2001-2006 or 2009-2011 were good enough to grab anything better than 5th place... well, save that nonsense for people who have never watched a single American F1 race in their lives.

So, yeah, Sebastian Vettel grabbed 3 PPs with the fastest car on the grid (his 3rd, 4th, and 5th seasons)...
Meanwhile, during a similar stretch in his career, Fernando Alonso took 11th (2004), 16th (2005), and 5th (2006) (his 3rd, 4th, and 5th seasons) in a car that also secured back-to-back Constructors' and Drivers' titles (2005-2006)... and both drivers had similar experience levels at the time.
His teammates in that same car and timeframe managed 9th (2004—Jacques Villeneuve had just jumped in), 3rd (2005—Giancarlo Fisichella), and 6th (2006—Giancarlo Fisichella).

The comparison is completely off base and totally irrelevant.🙂

In this comparison, Alonso actually holds the higher ground since we're looking at the best result.
Not the worst, not the average, but the absolute best qualifying result at Indianapolis.☕

A PP versus 5th place? That's not a small gap.☕
For qualifying, it’s massive.☕

Whatever the reason might be, I don't care... just keep it going.🙂


What a massive reach used to justify a direct comparison, weighing performance over three races against performance over nine.

What would it have looked like if the pressure hadn't crushed him🤣 🤣 🤣 ...and he had won last season too?

Forget Alain Prost, Michael Schumacher, and Ayrton Senna. 🙏 🙏 🙏
Three for three, man. 🙏 🙏 🙏

What does that "3/3" mean for the upcoming VN USA Japan? Nothing, obviously.
US Grand Prix (Indianapolis) 10.07.2012 in Formula 1 ·
Yeah, morning races. 🙄

Only Australia seems worth it, just to shake things off after the winter break. The rest? Not nearly as appealing to watch. It all comes down to the schedule.

It’s a shame. Indianapolis is such a great track, and honestly, next Sunday morning should be a total spectacle.
US Grand Prix (Indianapolis) 10.07.2012 in Formula 1 ·
stormybadger8 said:Look at the big picture. You have to judge them by their entire career, both in the first race and the second. ☕

Maybe let the actual F1 journalists handle the questions, instead of people who clearly don't have a clue about Formula 1.☕
F1 journalists might actually want to ask themselves—is it really possible for people to be this clueless? Like, how do you not even know that Formula 1 didn't even race in Indianapolis during the 2007 and 2008 seasons? 🍿


So, Vettel's "entire career." Or should I say, three races won while driving the fastest car on the grid?
Alonso’s entire career? It's three times longer than anyone else's, and he's outclassed everyone in just about everything.

Yeah, it’s a fair comparison. No doubt about it. 🙂
US Grand Prix (Indianapolis) 10.07.2012 in Formula 1 ·
stormybadger8 said:2009 was the same story.😍

It’s pretty wild that Sebastian Vettel's worst qualifying result was Suzuka PP 3/3.😍
Meanwhile, Alonso's best qualifying result at Suzuka is 5th place... and that’s considering every single race he's done there, even during those years when his car was actually decent in 2005 and 2006.😁

Vettel’s got three podiums from three races here, plus two wins...
Maybe the pressure finally got to him last year, but I'm still expecting a killer race from him.

How convenient... they only look at Vettel's last three seasons, yet they judge Alonso based on his entire career. 😍

Critics might ask—what about Vettel's results before Red Bull? 🍿
US Grand Prix (Indianapolis) 10.07.2012 in Formula 1 ·
Enough with the nobodies sitting on top of the podium. 👋

Following the usual script, The Great Master is finally pulling ahead in the title fight at the US Grand Prix. 👋

Go Fernando, let's go Ferrari. 🙂

Worst case scenario? I'll settle for a repeat of last year's standings.
Terry Carter2 said:Well, you’ve already pointed out the biggest one yourself!
Look, my point wasn't that the current regulations are fundamentally broken; rather, I believe certain details just need to be simplified or clarified.
I think we should stick to the core concept of the rules, though we could potentially overhaul the scoring system or how we handle forecasting. I haven't proposed anything radical here, but other candidates certainly have! That said, I am more than willing to refine the rules if it becomes necessary.
As the current commissioner, I feel far too much sweat and effort went into crafting our existing framework to just toss it all in the trash. If we don't go with a new set of rules, I am perfectly prepared to continue running the championship under the current ones.
😁


To put it bluntly—you aren't really offering anything new.

Fair enough. ☕
What would you say is the single most important change compared to the current rulebook?
To keep things brief:
-we've cut out the podium predictions and made a few minor tweaks to how points are awarded
-increased the number of jokers available
-moved the deadline for submitting predictions

Just some cosmetic updates to the MAXYMMov rulebook. 🤷

Oh... anything else important?
stormybadger8 said:Here’s the smartest way to handle this: Check out the predictor over at Autosport: http://predictor.autosport.com
Just start a league and call it a day. No rule interpreters, no endless whining about the rulebook, and no more exhausting debates over the fine print. Simple as that.
I don't need to listen to all the whining over at kzb. Everything's fine as far as I'm concerned.😁

Everything else is just going to be a total mess in the end.
Unless we implement a rule where this championship thread stays strictly limited to predictions and results—and anything else gets slapped with a penalty for spamming or trolling...

Let’s open up a new thread for all the racing series so those who actually feel like arguing have a place to go.🤷 Look, the Host shouldn't be obligated to answer for anything, period. And obviously, we need to start nuking the trolls and the insults.

Opening this first thread for all formal complaints. Just one rule: keep them constructive. I don't want to see any petty insults or trolling directed at other players or fellow members. Every player gets a set number of appeals per season, and once they're gone, they're gone. Management's word is final—period. Whoever you elect will enforce the rulebook, so don't come crying to me with "well, actually" arguments after the fact.

I’ve gotta say, I am absolutely loving this:

And here are some extra rules for the subforum:
Any posts along the lines of "while I was writing the rules, I was thinking," "back when I was running things...", "to me, it makes sense regardless of what the rulebook says..." or "I didn't really read the rules, but..." will get hit with a 100-point penalty and a three-day ban.
If you try to push back against the director's decision or drag things out indefinitely, you're looking at a 100-point penalty and a three-day ban. Simple as that.
- Using clones in competition threads (like playing against yourself, acting as both host and player, or having two candidates for host roles) results in a permanent ban for the clone, a 7-day suspension for the original account, and a partial ban from the Formula 1 PDF section for that user.
- Constantly breaking the same rules during competitions will lead to a partial ban from the Formula 1 PDF.

I'm seriously considering implementing these rules:cerek

That’s where I’ve been from the start.

Move the championships to some neutral ground.
An American Predict tool? Perfect.
Sounds complicated. 🤷
A stable host, you say...

Hasn't maminho stepped down from hosting our forum's F1 championship?
And hasn't Bjesomar also vacated his leadership role (he's stepped away as a player too, by the way)?

I'm not making any claims; I'm just thinking out loud.
Raymond Anderson4 said:Suzuka is a fast circuit, which is a plus, but how much downforce does it actually demand? More or less than Silverstone?
We performed well at Silverstone because it’s a high-speed track, but it doesn't rely entirely on aerodynamic dominance.

Is Vettel putting on a show right now because he's naturally strong on street circuits, or did Red Bull Racing find a bit more pace? Personally, I think it's more about Vettel, especially since Webber was looking pretty weak today.

Roughly the same.

At Silverstone, you've got the ultra-fast Copse, and at Suzuka, you have 130R.
At Silverstone, you deal with those complex S-curves at the start of the lap, and then you have the Maggots-Becketts-Chapel sequence.
At Silverstone, there's Luffield; at Suzuka, there's Spoon.
At Silverstone, you have that newer "Arena" section, whereas Suzuka gives you that 90-degree turn, the crossover, and then the Hairpin.

Ferrari performs well on "standard" tracks. Silverstone, Hockenheim, Spa.
We should be strong both at Suzuka and in Brazil.

Mind you, Suzuka depends quite a bit on the driver. And we're strong there too. Maybe even the strongest.

Raymond Anderson4 said:We were good at Silverstone because it’s a fast circuit, but it doesn't require aerodynamics to be the dominant factor.

Every track requires efficient aerodynamics—Silverstone included.
Raymond Anderson4 said:But today just wasn't it... Fernando couldn't keep up with Pastor during the first stint, and I really don't buy the idea that he was just managing his tires.
The way Fernando managed to jump Pastor wasn't because Ferrari suddenly found more pace; it was mostly because Pastor got stuck behind Kimi.
With the rest of the season ahead, there aren't many tracks that suit us. Maybe Brazil will be okay.

Reading FA's post-race comments, he’s making it crystal clear that things need to change. Personally, I wouldn't want FA's title to be remembered simply because his main rivals dropped out of the race.
"Today, we pulled out an advantage over three of our four main competitors, which is positive. In the end it went well," he said, clearly relieved. "But we definitely can't go on like this. It can't always be the case that my closest rival retires."

Suzuka?

At the very least, they should be ahead of Red Bull Racing at Suzuka.

If McLaren manages a 1-2 finish and Alonso takes third, I'll be perfectly happy.

Singapore is just a mirror image of Valencia. Sharp turns and short straights.
It’s hardly a surprise that this layout suits the RB8/Vettel combo.
mistybear87 said:It’s honestly impossible to be certain. We’re talking about millimeters here—the difference between his right tires being completely on the white line or not. And even then, does the rule look at the inner or outer edge of that line? I couldn't tell you. My gut feeling is they look at the outer edge, and if that's the case, Massa had two wheels "on the track."
But whether he gained an advantage or not, it's...


I covered all of this in my previous post. 🙂
Tyler Bennett5 said:You definitely have a sharper eye for detail than I do.
Was Massa actually completely off the track at that chicane—with all four wheels crossing the white line—or were his right tires still technically on the racing line?
And did cutting that chicane give him the momentum he needed to pull ahead of Ayrton Senna?


First, let's look at the incident in question:
image

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Next, let's check the regulations:
FIA 2012 F1 2012 Sporting Regulations states:
......

20.2 Drivers must use the track at all times. For the avoidance of doubt the white lines defining the
track edges are considered to be part of the track but the kerbs are not.
A driver will be judged to have left the track if no part of the car remains in contact with the
track.

.....


Take a close look at the onboard footage from Massine's car, specifically the position of the front right tire relative to the line marking the left edge of the track. At no point does that front right tire go outside (to the left of) that line. And according to the rule mentioned above, that is more than enough to constitute a "correct cornering."