Snowden (2016) Movie Discussion
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silentgardener21 said:I honestly thought Stone had peaked and wouldn't deliver another quality film for the rest of his career.
I have to agree with you there...
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silentgardener21 said:I honestly thought Stone had peaked and wouldn't deliver another quality film for the rest of his career.

redbear2 said:I think everything's already been said.
Lately, movies seem to lean heavily on flashy special effects just to drag people into theaters, while the actual storytelling gets shoved to the side. We're seeing endless reboots being pushed on us, too; there just isn't enough fresh, original ideas floating around anymore.
TV shows, on the other hand, tend to have much more dedicated fanbases who aren't afraid to give them higher ratings. You aren't forced to cram an entire narrative into a two-hour window; there's more breathing room for things to unfold and way more space for genuine character development.
They pull the viewer into the story more effectively, and the plots can actually be complex.
Over the last few years, TV series have really started to dominate. There’s more money flowing into the industry, and they're pulling in all the big A-list names. Essentially, the quality of television has skyrocketed, while movie standards have taken a dip.
Eric Patel7 said:Look, I wasn't even talking about character here—I'm talking about physical readiness. A woman just can't simply be part of a team like that.
If you want to talk about women, look at Ellen Ripley or Sarah Connor in T2. Those are actually well-written female characters because they’re shown having weaknesses too.
But movie characters like this woman in Sabotage? I just can't take them seriously, and honestly, they completely ruin the movie for me.🤷
goldenscout14 said:One of the female agent's specific assignments within the squad was to lure in and eliminate that drug lord at the very beginning, a task she executed flawlessly precisely because of those "feminine qualities"—namely, the underhandedness and scheming you mentioned—so... 😁 Surely there’s room for at least one woman on a team? Any perceived shortcomings in terms of raw physical strength or pure stamina can easily be compensated for by other skill sets, depending entirely on what the mission requires.
The movie isn't bad, per se, but it certainly could have been handled better and felt much more convincing in certain aspects...
Eric Patel7 said:I caught this one a few days ago, and honestly—Arnold Schwarzenegger had way better movies back in the day.
To be fair, the whole movie was pretty much ruined by that female lead. Her acting was just terrible—all that "f*** you bitch, I'll shut you down completely" attitude was so forced even Michelle Rodriguez would probably cringe watching it.🙄
Look, I don't want to sound sexist, but realistically, how is a woman supposed to be part of some hardcore undercover DEA or rogue S.W.A.T. team?
Failures like that generally just wreck the vibe of any movie for me. I'm not saying women should be chained to a kitchen or anything, but in the real world, a job like that would be physically overwhelming for a woman...
analogbear40 said:It’s honestly shocking how lackluster and underwhelming this turned out for a major Hollywood A-list production.
The script and the dialogue? A total disaster.
The only thing that might save it is the rumor that the original cut ran nearly three hours and was intended to be a gripping mystery thriller, but due to heavy studio interference, we ended up with what we got.
Terry Morris41 said:So what are you even doing in a thread about a movie you hate?
If you're just going to move the goalposts and copy my words because you lack the capacity to formulate two coherent sentences of your own—or perhaps you simply lack the ability to think independently altogether—then why bother?
Terry Morris41 said:That’s almost like saying a movie is bad simply because it’s boring...
Terry Morris41 said:Please
elaborate
on that.
Terry Morris41 said:....it really is the perfect movie for a deep dive discussion....
cosmiclynx57 said:This trilogy is absolutely powerhouse stuff, easily one of the best out there. 👍
The third installment totally blew my mind because, honestly, I wasn't expecting nearly that much from it. But looking back, all three films are just equally top-tier, and if you ask me, they each land a solid 8/10 in my book.
Zac Efron 🙏 is an absolute legend—man, his acting was incredible, especially in that third part where he just went off the rails; it was such an impressive performance. He basically carried the whole movie on his back. The character was so brilliantly written and he played him with such raw conviction that I actually thought about rewatching it the second the credits rolled just to soak it all in again.
Now, if I’m being picky, the first one might be the "best" since it feels like the most complete package, but the third one is definitely my personal favorite because you're basically crawling inside the protagonist's head. I got so emotionally invested in the guy that I was literally losing my mind right along with him whenever he got frustrated—it felt like his stress was my own!
Seriously though, the directing across all three is spot on, the storylines are super engaging, the acting is killer, and even the cinematography is just great...
And Marinela Dekic is just drop-dead gorgeous, seriously. 🙂
It's a breathtaking trilogy, and I'm certain we'll be seeing a revival or some kind of follow-up coming our way as soon as next month.
Richard Wilson4 said:How many times has a trailer hyped you up, only for you to walk out of the theater or turn off the TV feeling totally let down?
Or how about the opposite—when a trailer looked terrible, but then you finally sat down to watch it and regretted waiting so long because it was actually good?
WARNING: THIS THREAD IS FULL OF SPOILERS
Here are a few examples of movies where the trailers were total lies, just plain bad, or unfairly pumped me up;
Bridesmaids (2011) - such a notorious one. The trailer promised a non-stop riot, basically a better, female-led version of The Hangover.
Aside from one genuinely hilarious scene, we just got a slow-paced comedy-drama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UW9Zks5L2A
Real Steel (2011) - maybe an even worse offender. It looked like a high-octane action flick set in the near future, packed with robot fights.
Nobody told me we were getting some kid as the lead instead of someone like Wolverine.😂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JtTS76us3Q
Super 8 (2010) - based on the trailer, I was expecting a legit sci-fi horror, but what we got was a much lighter "kids movie" vibe that felt pretty underwhelming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpzUCA5i6zY
Thinking back to other movies that pop into my head (no need to link the trailers for these), I remember being super disappointed with Hancock. I was expecting an action-comedy, but it was anything but that.
On the flip side, for Wolf of Wall Street, I was expecting mindless fun or some flashy TV commercial type of movie, but I ended up getting the best film of the year.
Richard Wilson4 said:How many times has a trailer hyped you up, only for you to walk out of the theater or turn off the TV feeling totally let down?
Or how about the opposite—when a trailer looked terrible, but then you finally sat down to watch it and regretted waiting so long because it was actually good?
WARNING: THIS THREAD IS FULL OF SPOILERS
Here are a few examples of movies where the trailers were total lies, just plain bad, or unfairly pumped me up;
Bridesmaids (2011) - such a notorious one. The trailer promised a non-stop riot, basically a better, female-led version of The Hangover.
Aside from one genuinely hilarious scene, we just got a slow-paced comedy-drama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UW9Zks5L2A
Real Steel (2011) - maybe an even worse offender. It looked like a high-octane action flick set in the near future, packed with robot fights.
Nobody told me we were getting some kid as the lead instead of someone like Wolverine.😂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JtTS76us3Q
Super 8 (2010) - based on the trailer, I was expecting a legit sci-fi horror, but what we got was a much lighter "kids movie" vibe that felt pretty underwhelming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpzUCA5i6zY
Thinking back to other movies that pop into my head (no need to link the trailers for these), I remember being super disappointed with Hancock. I was expecting an action-comedy, but it was anything but that.
On the flip side, for Wolf of Wall Street, I was expecting mindless fun or some flashy TV commercial type of movie, but I ended up getting the best film of the year.
Nicole Martinez9 said:I still can't wrap my head around this... is this supposed to be some kind of parody? Or maybe just a really bad attempt at one? I seriously cannot believe a screenwriter actually thought they could scare anyone with this garbage. That scene where sharks are just flying out of the clouds one after another, and the guy is basically swatting them away with a gun like he's playing some cheap video game? That's pure parody territory right there. And don't even get me started on the rest of the scenes... Honestly, my gut tells me the writer wasn't even trying to make a comedy. They were dead serious... which makes it even worse.
Nicholas Watson said:Have you seen Super?

Paul Anderson7 said:Kick-Ass trailer
Based on the >, I was expecting some kind of wild comedy or a solid superhero parody. Instead, it just felt sort of pointless. It’s not even that the movie itself is terrible, it’s just that it wasn't nearly as funny as I had hoped it would be. I definitely walked away feeling disappointed.
The Men Who Stare at Goats
Same deal here; I went in expecting a laugh, and while it technically qualifies as a comedy, pretty much everything remotely funny in the whole movie was already spoiled in the trailer.
I generally try to avoid watching trailers or reading reviews before seeing a film, but even then, I still end up stumbling onto total crap sometimes.😛
Jesse Thomas7 said:Pretty solid little flick. It’s got that breezy, charming British vibe—super gentle and relaxing. Honestly, feels like a bit of therapy. 🙂
@eek, look, until that kid is actually born, they’re just some blurry shape on an ultrasound. He isn't going to be able to tell one grainy image from another. It's not like he's already some tiny human being he’s been singing lullabies to, changing diapers for, or getting attached to.
They captured that perfectly in that scene where he heads back home only to be greeted by a child he doesn't even recognize.
But with this one, it doesn't work quite like that.
I definitely agree that keeping the time travel as just a backdrop for the human drama was the right call. If they had leaned too hard into the sci-fi mechanics, they probably would've tripped over their own feet trying to make the logic work.
nimblemason3 said:Groundhog Day is the latest from Richard Curtis—the guy behind Love Actually and Manhattan. It’s pretty much what you’d expect from his usual style.
The story follows young Tim (Domhnall Gleeson), who finds out the guys in his family can travel (only) back in time—so he tries to use that to fix his life and, well, find a girlfriend. Naturally, the lovely Mary (Rachel McAdams) shows up soon enough...
It’s a sweet, charming little flick that actually made me laugh quite a bit—solid rom-com territory, really. But honestly? The total lack of actual conflict started to grate on me by the end. Stretching a movie with zero real stakes to two hours felt a bit much.
6/10
More details here:
http://passpopcorn.com/2013/12/09/we...out-time-2013/