You missed the most important part—what are you actually planning to do with this PC?
This build is incredibly unbalanced. If you aren't a gamer, why even bother with a dedicated graphics card? (They aren't worth nearly that much money anyway, and they won't be much faster than integrated graphics in this case). Why do you need 16GB of RAM? I'm assuming you aren't doing any video editing, because that CPU is far too weak for that kind of work at this budget level. The motherboard is overpriced, you don't need a black HDD if you're already getting an SSD (unless you're just chasing the warranty), there are better SSD options for that price point (like the Samsung 850 with its 5-year warranty), and the power supply is subpar...
Because they aren't going to stop. This guy has cloned himself at least ten times already, if you count all the different profiles he's used to fake those builds.
Everyone, things have been getting pretty dull lately. Honestly, I think because of people acting like clones of etheralknight/geforceGTX or guys like frozenbadger76 (who seem to open five or six threads at a time), we really need a dedicated practice subforum. It would be a space where they can just spout whatever nonsense they want without having to cook up some fake "scenario" just to justify opening a thread. In my opinion, this entire subforum has lost its sense of professionalism over the last two years because of users like that.
Which 750W model are you looking at? If you’re hell-bent on overspecifying your power supply, you might as well go with the Seasonic Leadex 650W instead. At the end of the day, the PSU is the cream of the crop when it comes to component quality.
You're going to need a cooler. Do you already have an HDD?
The 8350 isn't worth your money. You'd be much better off grabbing an FX 8300, 8320, or even the FX 8320E. If you save there, you'll have plenty of cash left over for a solid cooler—I'd recommend at least an LC-CC-95 or a Spire Kepler. Honestly, the best value play is the LC-CC-120. Also, please ditch that generic power supply and get something decent. For what you're spending, you can easily pick up an EVGA 500W Power Supply, or maybe an EVGA 550W or an LC6560gp3...
If someone actually picks up that performance level, $57 paying that much is an absolute nightmare. You’d honestly get better results from a Kepler card than $27. Honestly, if you're planning on building your own rig, just grab a significantly better LC-CC-120 instead of wasting your cash on whatever is in that link or wherever else you're looking.
Just asking because I want to know what you guys think. Haven't really thought about it before, but personally, viewing angles don't mean anything to me... once you set up your desk, the angle doesn't matter (unless you're doing acrobatics while sitting at your PC). The only real pain is when they don't have an adjustable stand.😁
Looks like everyone jumped to conclusions immediately. I don't have a solid opinion on this yet, which is why I'm asking for clarification. This is actually my first time looking into the differences between LCD/TN/OLED and other types of panels.😬
And I think I might have been looking at the "wrong" TN monitors, considering they all seem to be nearly 60% more expensive than LCD monitors.🤣 🤦
Not these budget ones, just the pricey high-end gaming models... According to Best Buy, the cheapest 144Hz option right now is $633 +
Otherwise, you might find something for maybe $1600-$567 but it'll likely be bottom-of-the-barrel quality.
That's really more for competitive or pro gamers (think Counter-Strike and stuff like that), because I don't see many accessible games where you'd actually push past 60 fps (with high or ultra settings).
analogtiger19 said:I've been wondering about this for a while, but I just haven't found the right moment to ask 😵... why does everyone on this forum seem to prefer LCD over TN? Is it strictly about the "color," or is there something else to it? 😬
EDIT: (and the viewing angles)
Why aren't those two factors enough on their own? 😬
Especially since lately, LCD or OLED panels are priced pretty much the same as various TN options.
Just grab a decent power supply instead—look at brands like Seasonic, XFX, or even Fortron Hexa+ or Hyper series. That DeepCool unit is a total wildcard; it’s likely either bottom-tier junk or just mediocre hardware sold at an inflated price, especially since it carries a fake 80+ certification and hasn't seen a single real review.
Also, think about whether buying from Micro Center is actually your best move, considering they're the only ones stocking that DeepCool stuff.
Since you're building this rig yourself, you have the freedom to mix and match components from different retailers. For instance, the LC-CC-120 cooler is a total steal right now.
Are you really looking for a TV to use as a monitor? Honestly, for that kind of budget, you can find much higher-quality monitors equipped with superior LCD or OLED panels.
Hehe, late-night building session! I’ve gotta run, but honestly, I'm still shocked by how cheap this turned out.
It isn't an extreme combo at all. Sure, you might hit a bottleneck in specific scenarios—like certain multiplayer titles—but realistically, this setup will deliver the best gaming performance out of everything listed, especially when it comes to single-player games.
Check out how this little guy performs with similar processors (like an FX 4320, which is basically an FX 4300 pushed to 4GHz, or an FX 4170) running some newer titles paired with a GTX 980, which is nearly twice as powerful:
Dragon Age: Inquisition at 1200p Dying Light Shadow of Mordor (FX 4170) - okay, this one isn't actually that CPU intensive. this one is quite demanding Psychological Observation
And all of that is on a GPU that's roughly twice as strong as the R9 280.
Getting an FX 4300 at this price is a total steal for $208
Here is the build (pushed to the limit, but doable without an expensive cooler, using a budget motherboard and a 500GB HDD):
AMD FX-4300 Box 3.8GHz - 8MB Cache - 95W BOX Corsair Value Select 8 GB, 1600 MHz, 2x4 GB ASRock 980 DE3/U3S3 LC-Power PRO-923B - Red Captor Seagate BarraCuda 500GB 3.5" 7.2k SATA III 32MB Cosmo Cool LC-CC-95 - CPU cooler PowerColor R9 280 3GB GDDR5 OC XFX Pro 450W
Nathan Long9 said:hey, I'm looking for some advice on pre-built PCs. My budget is capped at $4300 max. If you guys could check CNN... I found a couple of options and figured you could tell me what they're missing. Mostly just using this thing for gaming... Call of Duty, Far Cry, GTA... basically all the new stuff. Also curious which one you'd pick if you had my cash.
Processor: AMD FX-6300 @ 3.50/4.10GHz Hexa Core (6MB Cache) Motherboard: AMD 960 Chipset Memory: 1x 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz Hard Drive: 500GB SATA 3.5" 7200rpm Optical Drive: DVD±R DL 24x SATA Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 2GB DDR5 Sound Card: integrated, 5.1 CH HD Audio Network Card: Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s Ports: PS2, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0, LAN, Audio, DisplayPort, DVI, HDMI Case: Midi tower Power Supply: 500 W
$1.25
Processor: Intel Core i5 4460 @ 3.20/3.40GHz quad Core (6MB Cache) Haswell Motherboard: Intel H81 chipset Memory: 1x 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz Hard Drive: 500GB SATA 3.5" 7200rpm Optical Drive: DVD±R DL 24x SATA Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GT 730 2GB DDR3 Sound Card: integrated, 5.1 CH HD Audio Network Card: Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s Ports: PS2, 2x USB 3.0, 6x USB 2.0, LAN, Audio, VGA, DVI-D, HDMI Case: Midi tower Power Supply: 400 W
$1.25
Processor: Intel Core i5 4460 @ 3.20/3.40GHz quad Core (6MB Cache) Haswell Motherboard: Intel H81 chipset Memory: 1x 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz Hard Drive: 1000GB SATA 3.5" 7200rpm Optical Drive: DVD±R DL 24x SATA Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GT 730 2GB DDR3 Sound Card: integrated, 5.1 CH HD Audio Network Card: Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s Ports: PS2, 3x USB 3.0, 5x USB 2.0, LAN, Audio, VGA, DVI-D, HDMI Case: Mini tower Power Supply: 500 W
$1.50
Man, that's a total disaster. Especially those builds with the Nvidia GeForce GT 730 DDR3—you won't even be able to play GTA 4 properly with that thing.
Don't even bother looking at pre-built configurations under any circumstances; just read through this thread.
If you can somehow manage to stretch your budget toward this option while browsing CNN, do it.
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There's no disc burner included, but you can always install Windows from a USB, and all your drivers come online anyway. Nobody really uses a DVD-RW these days.
If you absolutely have to stick strictly to $4,300 including a disc burner, then ditch that R9 270 graphics card and swap it for this or this (the second one is slightly more powerful, while the first offers an extra year of warranty). Add a disc burner and a higher-quality, better-equipped case like the Z1—with those changes, it will be $1430
If it isn't likely a faulty motherboard, then you're looking at an MSI issue; they really struggled with the AM3+ socket, especially their budget and mid-range lines.
- Kingston 0.20% (down from 0.27% last year) - Crucial 0.39% (up from 0.30% last year) - G.Skill 0.95% (down from 1.01% last year) - Corsair 1.18% (up from 1.06% last year)
The hierarchy remains unchanged from the previous year. Kingston and G-skill reduce their failure rates , while IT increases for Crucial and Corsair.
Below are the top 5 products seeing the most returns:
It appears Corsair ran into significant issues with their DDR3 kits during this window, specifically within the Vengeance line.
Report released on October 30th, 2013:
Average Failure rates:
- Kingston 0.20% (unchanged) - Crucial 0.46% (up from 0.39%) - G.Skill 0.90% (down from 0.95%) - Corsair 1.08% (down from 1.18%)
For the third period running, the order hasn't budged. Kingston maintains an incredibly low return rate, whereas Crucial saw a slight uptick, and both G.Skill and Corsair showed modest improvements in reliability.
Once again, no individual memory kits exceeded a 5% return rate, but here are the five kits with the highest rates:
Mirroring the previous report, the list is dominated exclusively by Corsair models; however, this time the highest failure rates aren't tied strictly to the high-end Vengeance series.
