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Look, if that guy with the Radeon R9 280X is running a Corsair RM series 360 Gold unit, then you’d be perfectly fine with a Corsair CX series, and those power supplies mentioned above would work even better—especially since NVIDIA cards pull even less power in general...
Quick look at DirectX performance using the GeForce GTX 980 (US)
Is an A10 really beating an i7 in Call of Duty: Multiplayer when paired with a GeForce GTX 980?? Whaat? It might just be down to how they ran their tests (as they admitted themselves). That guy StarSwarm definitely put things into perspective 😬 , but using DirectX narrows that gap significantly
Honestly, developers could step up their game and put a bit more effort into optimization.
crimsonstag84 said:A buddy of mine over at PCPartPicker mentioned his Corsair RM series was handling a GeForce GTX 980 paired with an i7-3770K overclocked to 4GHz just fine, and this EVGA unit actually offers a bit more headroom.
That's what I read as well. I suspect he was looking at peak draw in Metro, which probably hit around 370W.
That motherboard isn't really built to handle overclocking a 125W CPU like that.
Here are the Mantle performance benchmarks (not from AMD or DICE):
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/...4#.UvOqREDoYhv
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...preview,1.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7728/b...mantle-preview
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/17...ce-directx-9/4
http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Mant...nd-Star-Swarm/
http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-mant...yst-141_134959
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphic...rmance-Testing
http://wccftech.com/amd-mantle-api-p...adeon-r9-280x/
http://www.golem.de/news/amds-mantle...02-104261.html
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...u-amds-mantle/
If I recall correctly, this currently only covers the GTX 260 and the R9 290X, though support for the rest of the Radeon and HD7xxx series should follow later.
The first game to feature native Mantle and TrueSound support right out of the gate will be the new Thief.
Looking at those Antec spec sheets, since the i5 3350p isn't actually listed, you could say its closest match would be the Intel Core i5-2400
Not on Amazon, but it’ll probably show up soon since they have the 7700K in stock somewhere.
You’ve got an error in that Intel build
Robert Rodriguez2 said:1 x GIGABYTE B75M-D3H, Socket : 1155, Intel ® B75, 4xDDR3 1066/1333/
1 x Procesor Intel Core i5-4440 (3.10GHz,1MB,6MB,84 W,1150) Box
1 x DDR3 8GB (1x8GB) Kingston, HyperX Blue, 1600MHz, CL10
1 x Kingston SSD 120GB V300, 2.5" 7mm, SATA 3 6G, 7mm to 9.5mm
1 x HDD Seagate 2TB, Serial ATA III, 7200 rpm, Barracuda 7200
1 x Napajanje XFX Core edition 80 + 450 w pas - EasyRail Technology
1 x Zalman ZM-T4 micro Tower case. 189(W) x 427,5(H) x 364(D)mm. MB
1 x Sapphire R7 260X 1GB GDDR5 OC, 1GB GDDR5 128bit, 28nm
$1728
1 x DDR3 8GB (1x8GB) Kingston, HyperX Blue, 1600MHz, CL10
1 x Kingston SSD 120GB V300, 2.5" 7mm, SATA 3 6G, 7mm to 9.5mm
1 x HDD Seagate 2TB, Serial ATA III, 7200 rpm, Barracuda 7200
1 x Napajanje XFX Core edition 80 + 450 w pas - EasyRail Technology
1 x Zalman ZM-T4 micro Tower case. 189(W) x 427,5(H) x 364(D)mm. MB
1 x Sapphire R7 260X 1GB GDDR5 OC, 1GB GDDR5 128bit, 28nm
1 x Procesor AMD FX-Series X8 8320 3.5GHz,16MB,125W,AM3+, FD8320FRHK
1 x ASUS M5A97 R2.0, AM3,AM3+, AMD 970, SB950, BUS 5200 MHz, DDR3
1 x ZALMAN CNPS 5X, socket 775/1155/1156/AM2/AM2/AM3
$1747
By the way, guys, just a heads up that Discount24 and Centro both charge for shipping.
So, what’s the primary goal for this build?
The setup looks solid, but if you're planning on gaming, you could definitely squeeze in a more powerful graphics card. Also, do you really need a 2TB drive right out of the gate?
1 x AMD FX-Series X6 6300 3.5GHz,14MB,95W,AM3+, FD6300WMHK
1 x DDR3 8GB (2x4GB) Kingston, 1600MHz, CL9, HyperX Genesis, KHX1600
1 x Asrock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 - AMD 970, AMD SB950, ATX, Dura Caps
1 x Sapphire R7 260X 1GB GDDR5 OC, 1GB GDDR5 128bit, 28nm
1 x HDD WD 1TB, Caviar Blue 10EZEX, 1000 GB, SATA3,64 MB, 3,5", 24mj
1 x Samsung 120 GB 840 evo Basic, SSD disk, Kapacitet 120 GB, 2,5"
1 x XFX Core edition 80 + 450 w pas - EasyRail Technology
1 x Zalman Z3 mid tower case. 192(W)x465(H)x430(D)mm. MB standard
1 x Samsung SH-224DB sat Bulk Black, SATA
1 x ZALMAN CNPS 5X, socket 775/1155/1156/AM2/AM2/AM3
$1646 These prices are from irs.gov, though you could probably find something cheaper at a local discount retailer. You might want to put the extra cash toward a better motherboard if you plan on overclocking, like an ASUS M5A97 R2.
Actually, an i5 would fit perfectly here too.
1 x Sapphire R7 260X 1GB GDDR5 OC, 1GB GDGD5 128bit, 28nm
1 x HDD WD 1TB, Caviar Blue 10EZEX, 1000 GB, SATA3,64 MB, 3,5", 24mj
1 x XFX Core edition 80 + 450 w pas - EasyRail Technology
1 x Zalman Z3 mid tower case. 192(W)x465(H)x430(D)mm. MB standard
1 x Samsung SH-224DB sat Bulk Black, SATA
1 x Intel Core i5-4440 (3.10GHz,1MB,6MB,84 W,1150) Box
1 x Asrock s1150 H81M-HDS - Intel H81, M-ATX, dual Channel 2 xDDR3
1 x Kingston SSD 120GB V300, 2.5" 7mm, SATA 3 6G, 7mm to 9.5mm
1 x DDR3 8GB (1x8GB) Kingston, HyperX Blue, 1600MHz, CL10
$1687
If your budget is strictly $500, you should swap the motherboard and the CPU.
1 x Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz (Max Turbo FQ 3.3 GHz) ,6MB
1 x MSI B75MA-E31, Socket : 1155, microATX, Intel ® B75, 2xDDR3 1066
With the Intel route, you could also opt for a more budget-friendly mATX case.
1 x Zalman ZM-T4 micro Tower case. 189(W) x 427,5(H) x 364(D)mm. MB
You can always grab an SSD later on and upgrade the rest of the components down the road.
Rachel Rogers8 said:I’m done with the USA side of things... I've officially made my move over to Intel.
And as for the RAM speed, honestly, I'm just thinking ahead toward a future build... if I'm going to be swapping out the CPU or upgrading other parts in a year or so, I might as well grab faster memory right now so I'm not stuck. That’s why I wouldn't even consider settling for 1600 MHz.
If you're running a dedicated graphics card, there is absolutely zero noticeable difference between standard and high-speed RAM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA...RbSzag&index=3
An integrated graphics setup might see some minor gains from higher speeds and dual-channel configurations.
You should really consider adding an SSD to the mix—it’s essentially a massive shot of adrenaline for your drive speed.
With a budget of $1500, picking up a GTX 260 or a GTX 970 is a total steal. For instance, check out this GTX 260:
Now, for the GTX 970:
http://www.diskont24.com/product.php?productid=131025 or if you want one with a superior cooling system:
The R9 280 is a bit stronger, but it really depends on which retailer you're looking at and whether the value is actually there. Personally, I wouldn't drop two hundred bucks on it since the performance jump isn't massive. It’s a decent option if you can snag it here: — though I'm a little skeptical about that listing. That looks like the old price for an MSI with the standard reference cooler; if you're serious about buying, make sure it actually has the Twin Frozr (Gaming) version. Also, be prepared to wait a while for shipping from them.
Your power supply should handle any of these options just fine.
David Sanders4 said:Because at
Best Buy: EVGA GTX 760 gaming OC $570 + $10 shipping >$580
Micro Center: EVGA GTX 760 gaming OC>$586
And I’d pick up this other one at Best Buy
ASUS GeForce GTX 660 OC $472 including shipping
or maybe a used
EVGA GTX 660 for >$383 with shipping
I wouldn't touch those Palit or POV cards; they just don't feel right to me. I much prefer the dual-fan models.
As for Nvidia, I'd go exclusively with them for PhysX support, since my current setup—between the motherboard and the power supply—doesn't give me the option to run a hybrid setup, like say an R9 270x paired with an 8800GTS 640MB (and honestly, I'm not even sure how that would perform).🤷
Now, that R9 290 TriX is an absolute beast, but it is way out of my budget (just like the GTX 770 or the GTX 780).
David Sanders4, that card at Micro Center isn't a full-blown gaming model; it's just the reference design.
Regarding the Best Buy option—either the site didn't show me the availability, or I just instinctively skipped over them 😬 —but the price is solid. Just reach out to them to make sure you aren't accidentally grabbing the reference version.
Regarding a used GTX 660—if you wait for it, something even cheaper will eventually pop up.
And I only included that 290 TriX in the thread for informational purposes.
Why compare those two specific models? The gap was much wider $200. It’s a bit of an apples-to-oranges comparison since they aren't even in the same league; the GTX 760 delivers nearly 50% more performance, so I suspect its value will drop faster.
http://www.diskont24.com/product.php?productid=127953EDIT
By the way, there's an American review for the
sapphire GTX 970 tri-xThat card is incredible. It's noticeably quieter than the reference model (and even beats the MSI GTX 770 Lightning), runs about 4% stronger, stays roughly 20°C cooler, and actually draws slightly less power—all without being much more expensive.
Robert Rodriguez2 said:1 x DDR3 8GB (1x8GB) Kingston Technology HyperX Blue, 1600MHz, CL10
1 x XFX Core edition 80 550W PSU - EasyRail technology
1 x ASUS DRW-24F1ST/BLK/B/AS SATA, DVD-R 24x, DVD-RW 6x, DVD+R 24x
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB, 1000 GB, SATA3, 64 MB, 3.5", 24mj
1 x Kingston Technology SSDNow V300 120GB, 2.5" 7mm, SATA 3 6G, 7mm to 9.5mm
1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 1024 GDDR5 128 bit, N650-1GD5/OCV1, Core Clock 1071 M
1 x Cooler master Hyper 212 Evo, 2011, 1366/1156/775/AM3/, 626g, 13-32dB
1 x Gigabyte 990XA-UD3, AM3+, AMD 990X SB950, 4x DDR3
1 x AMD FX-Series X8 8320 3.5GHz, 16MB, 125W, AM3+, FD8320FRHK
$1773
www.newegg.com
Ryan Hayes82 said:You don't really need 16GB of RAM if you're just doing amateur-level editing.
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K, LGA 1155, 3.3GHz
1 x Intel 1 x Asrock Z87 Extreme3
1 x Patriot Viper3 1866Mhz, 8GB (2x4GB)
1 x Fortron Raider S PSU 550W, 80+ SILVER
1 x Samsung SH-224DB SATA Bulk Black
1 x Western Digital HDD, 1TB, 7200rpm, Western Digital Caviar Blue
1 x Samsung SSD 120GB 840 EVO Basic
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 650 OC, 1GB DDR5, DX11
1 x Zalman CNPS10X OPTIMA, AMD/Intel
$1907
futura-it
If you're looking to overclock, try aiming for something like this.
In terms of raw chip performance, these cards are identical. The real difference lies in the cooling solutions and the warranty coverage. Both ASUS and MSI offer a solid 3-year warranty; I’d suggest avoiding VTX if you can help it, especially since the price gap isn't significant enough to justify the risk.
Since you didn't mention a specific budget, if you're willing to stretch a little further for better power, take a look at 260X
.
Here is a comparison—take a look and decide what fits your needs.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1044?vs=1079
Wait, which shop are you even talking about?
If you're dead set on ordering from a specialty boutique, they probably carry cheaper options than the one you mentioned. But if the price difference is negligible, I’d honestly just grab it at Target or Walmart—it's much easier to handle returns or exchanges if something goes wrong.
hollowmarlin19 said:You mention a higher-quality power supply, but did I even suggest what kind of PSU was being offered to me? You mentioned a faster processor and a better case, but you didn't say anything about the motherboard or the memory.
To be clear, I'm not arguing that buying parts individually is cheaper than getting them here in Savannah; Chicago is always cheaper across the board, that's just how it works.
The memory and the motherboard are also better. The motherboard uses a newer socket and supports USB 3.0.
You can tell what the power supply is just by looking at the case (if it comes as a combo case + PSU, then it's that Linkworld 420W unit—basically "junkware"—but it would technically keep your configuration running).
Linkworld 321 case
420WLook, it's your money. For what you need, that PC will be fine; I'm simply pointing out that you could get more bang for your buck. You might even find a better deal at a big retailer like Best Buy (whether in the city or the suburbs), though they can be pretty pricey too.
In Chicago, you can get free assembly and delivery on orders over $667 (you can even pay cash on delivery) — just order online, via phone, or by email if you prefer.
To answer your question: if you have the cash, go with what crimsonstag84 suggested. You'll get a significantly more powerful PC—better processor, higher quality power supply, and a sturdier case. If you visit a site like Futura-IT or an electronics retailer, and look at the components individually rather than as a bundle, you'll see it's actually much cheaper.
For example, check out the price for a 500GB hard drive here:
And for 1000 GB: