slyfox43 said:Does anyone ever get tired of hearing the same crowd drone on about how US and Russian interests are perfectly aligned in their desire to weaken Europe? I wonder if there’s any actual evidence in how the US has behaved over the last year to support that claim. According to them, the US is undermining Europe by:
1) sharing intelligence that provides early warnings regarding potential Russian aggression,
2) applying intense diplomatic pressure to ensure sanction packages are coordinated,
3) coordinating alternative energy suppliers FOR EUROPE—some of which happen to be American—to shield the continent from Russian retaliation and leverage, ultimately placing Europe in a much stronger negotiating position,
4) deploying significant additional forces to the most vulnerable NATO members,
and so on,
and so on,
and so on.
Are they really working to destabilize Europe with the same fervor that Russia uses for its "denazification of Ukraine" campaign? 🙄
Honestly, reading this kind of nonsense is exhausting. It’s no different than those endless, hollow ramblings about the "brotherhood" of China and Russia while they simultaneously accept massive amounts of aid from the EU and the USA—the very same entities they constantly insult. It's the exact same garbage, through and through.
Sure, because clearly the US wants nothing but the best for Europe and dreams of a world filled with peace, prosperity, and democracy. Aren't you a little embarrassed to be pushing these fairy tales?
1) To put it simply, weakening Russia and ensuring their invasion of Ukraine fails was the priority here. This had nothing to do with some altruistic desire to make life better for Europe; it was about making sure Russia gets bogged down in the Ukrainian mud. Fortunately, that seems to have worked so far.
2) and 3) I don't see what's controversial about diplomatic pressure or organizing conditions so that Europe shifts its energy sources toward the US, allied nations, and democratic strongholds like Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Of course, in a situation like this, everyone is going to seize the opportunity to look out for their own interests.
4) Given the potential for escalation, it's only logical to move more NATO troops into Europe. That isn't American benevolence; it's preparing for the inevitable scenario where we end up having to defend America in Europe, as is often the case.
Just as the ideas about "brotherly" Russia and China are delusions, so too are these delusions about a "brotherly" America.