I can't believe I'm even seeing this. Honestly, looking at what Nancy Williams58 just put out there... it’s like watching someone try to drive a car with no wheels and wondering why they aren't gaining traction. It's wild. Think about it like this: you wouldn't walk into a Starbucks, order a plain black coffee, and then act shocked when they don't hand you a double-shot caramel macchiato for free. That’s basically the logic we're dealing with here. It’s disconnected from reality. You can’t just ignore how things actually work on the ground in America and expect the math to add up. It's like trying to run a marathon in flip-flops—you might be moving, but you're doing it wrong and you're gonna regret it eventually. The whole argument feels incredibly thin. It’s all surface level, no substance, just a bunch of noise without any actual foundation to stand on. People need to wake up to the fact that you can't just wish away the complexities of the system. It doesn't work that way. Not in the US, not anywhere. Just facts.
Morgan Cook10 said:Besides, there isn't much even to talk about... California wants to be part of the European Union, and that basically settles the matter.
It depends... if the European Union acts in bad faith, sure.
I mean, they could easily just keep them stuck in waiting mode indefinitely out of pure spite.
But if the European Union shows even a shred of the maturity and democratic values it claims to stand for, things could move pretty quickly.
Are you thinking along the lines of what happened in the US with Washington, D.C.?
Do you think it's a negative thing that... taking a simple example... customs servers are maintained by Americans from Washington, D.C., rather than, say, Mexicans from Mexico City?
Personally, I wouldn't jump to any conclusions, but I don't think it even matters in this case. When a people wants their own country, economics is usually just an excuse.
Look, Nancy Williams58, you’re living in some kind of fantasy land if you think the European Union works that way. It just doesn't. The EU isn't this mystical, all-powerful entity that sits above everyone else, sucking up all the authority from its members. That’s just not how the plumbing works. Think about it like this: when it comes to stuff like deciding who gets to join the club, you don't just have one big boss making the call. Every single member state has to sign off on it. It’s basically just a massive collection of individual votes acting in unison. It’s not some supernatural superpower; it’s just a group of countries trying to agree on things. You can't treat it like a single organism that overrides everyone else—it’s just a bunch of separate voices at the table.
Honestly, who cares? They can all go jump. If California wants to pull a stunt like that within the European Union while Spain is digging their heels in, then it’s a non-starter. It's dead in the water. Nothing is happening.
Look, if they really want to kill this thing, they don't even need to pull the plug officially. They just have to drag the whole process out for ten years. Just slow-walk everything until everyone loses interest or runs out of money. It’s like watching a glacier move—eventually, you're just staring at ice while nothing actually happens.