Posts by Kimberly Alvarez7

stormyseal9 said:Just to follow up on what Andrew White32 said—that idea about the northern groups being near the Sabana is nonsense. I know plenty of crews heading that way who refuse to deal with that wannabe armada; they’re nowhere near the peaceful side. And you guys keep bragging about that 5-to-1 ratio? I was at that game. Even my grandmother could have seen how wasted he was—halfway between drunk and high. That's the reality.

I didn't say those guys up north were losers; I said they were peaceful. If I have to explain my own damn point to you, then you're truly clueless. PS—don't worry about that wannabe militia. Looking at these pathetic posts, it’s obvious you’re still just some wannabe hooligan who can't actually pull it off.

stormyseal9 said:It's easy to move from the West to the North at Country Club, so they probably did the same. I know these guys' scouting patterns; they always travel for away games.

Traveling from the West Coast to the Northeast in such a short timeframe? Impossible. Those who claim they made it must have teleported.

stormyseal9 said:If that’s your take, fine. But bragging about beating up some junkie five-to-one is pathetic and shameful. The guy even said they looked like Native Americans after he laid them out. If you actually showed up to games, you’d recognize those faces—and one of them is pretty recognizable. He’s even got a tattoo on his leg of the American flag and his first initial.👍

You’re right. They should have met first to hold an open debate on who would tackle the bull. Then, they should have held a proper democratic vote to select a field representative, and finally, asked the police to open the gate.
The kid tried to act like a big shot. He got exactly what was coming to him.

hollowbear27 said:I was at that game.The truth is you only lingered at our forum for about two minutes. Before the police started cracking heads... a few of our guys managed to slip onto the field by tossing a banner over the barbed wire. Good old days. But I can't remember—was that the game where about 50 of us took a train down from San Francisco and completely hijacked the local committee's welcome party at the stadium? Memory's getting fuzzy.🤷

The guys brought tents before the game. The original plan was to head east, set up camp, and get a fire going before heading over to meet everyone. Instead, the tents and wood got soaked right at the entrance, so the whole "socializing" part lasted maybe two minutes. As for what you wrote further down—stay on topic. 🤣

Ethan Moore56 said:Even worse—you think they chased you guys off?🤷

Enough of this..👍

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But this part right here is the best, he says:

Ethan Moore56 said:Stupid argument. The group stormed the field, showed up right in front of the ultras, but didn't actually do anything besides some fans hitting the fence.Individual rushes onto the pitch wouldn't have ended well even if there were a few of them.So what? Just typical stuff...

Talking about "individual rushes" means out of a few hundred people in the East Stand, there were maybe 10 ultras present (which is clearly what he means by individual). What were the rest doing? Probably taking an "_how to be an ultra" seminar just watching those few guys. You're right though; back then, it was common to see hundreds of fans on the pitch every other game. Nothing special.😂

You're missing the point. Armada did what they had to do.
The mindset here is unbelievable. I'm done. 🤣🤣🙂

And tell me, please, those 30 or so special forces guys—are they the ones in the blue uniforms or the red ones?

Ethan Moore56 said:Rijeka vs. Split, December 13, 1998. Final score: 2-1.

The visitors will soon approach the goal, right near the Torcida section, which is absolutely livid. About ten of them charge onto the pitch to clash with the Armada supporters. Meanwhile, the rest of the Torcida fans are kicking and pounding at the fencing like they’re trying to tear the whole thing down—it's actually easier for the Armada crowd to storm the field since their side doesn't have that barbed wire setup like the East stands do. Eventually, about 30 SWAT officers step in and force the Armada guys back into the stands. Fifteen minutes after the final whistle, almost everyone has cleared out, except for Torcida, who are just waiting for the gates to open so they can leave. One guy leaps over the fence and sprints toward the West stand, where the Armada crew snatches two banners from the railing, before he turns around and hurls those same banners back toward the East.

Tifo number 27.

What have you been up to? Don't tell me you were digging through your closet looking for old Tifo jerseys. Well, a real fan doesn't lie.
Tell me where exactly you see a barricade here. This is what the special units looked like back then. The Armada retreated once they hit the east fence; they still had to clear the perimeter to reach the stands. As for those banners, some phantom supporter snatched them down around 9:00 PM—no one saw a thing, and nobody heard a thing. You say that fan was acting crazy? Well, the Ultras were going absolutely mental, throwing everything they had at the Armada to start a fight. Looking at these photos, though, my guys look pretty static to me.

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Pictures can be deceptive. Anything is possible when you're dealing with an unstoppable fan force like that. 😁

Ethan Moore56 said:"My city, my club," "city elites," "neighborhood pride"... what else have you miserable white stones taken from us?

The first one fell back then. There was no real chaos that time. They're still the White Angels. 😁 Our guy simply walked up to the East Stand and tore them down from the fence. As for those other banners you mentioned, I’m not even sure if they were ever in our hands to begin with. Either way, they learned their lesson—don't show up to a stadium with banners unless you want to lose them. After that game at the stadium, whether it was against the Lakers or the Celtics, every single banner on the East Stand had been moved to the inside of the fence. Coincidence or fear? That's the question.

Ethan Moore56 said:yeah, I admit they took over the Gulf Coast😁 exactly😁

🤣🤣 No way. This guy’s gonna claim these aren't even die-hard fans in the photos, just some casual Raiders supporters.

Terry Lee3 said:http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3720/neredi54bc8.jpg

Man, just look at those bloodthirsty animals behind the fence (check out the guy in the white smiley shirt 🤣🤣). I’m telling you, this is an American stadium under the bleachers with a supposedly "peaceful" crowd. I don't even want to imagine what would happen to that kid if he somehow made his way toward the West. He’d be unrecognizable to his own mother. Just play it smart and stay behind the railing 🤣

Terry Lee3 said:jebiga... we were loud, we caused a mess, who's even going to track all this...😁

I agree. You're right; I got lost in all those intense images myself.👍

Terry Lee3 said:Regarding those legendary games... I remember some drunk guy from the South who kept getting trampled all over the field, yet he just kept getting back up, covered in bruises, to continue his little performance...🤣🤣 👍

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They weren't trampling this guy. Whoever you're thinking of must have been someone else. 😁 Similarly, this one wasn't really putting on a show; he was mostly lying horizontally. 😁 This guy went in intending to lift a sign from the fence under the bleachers. I doubt he was surprised when ten guys from the supposedly "peaceful" North Stand jumped the fence in a heartbeat and caught him. He didn't put on much of a show. I bet after the first kick he took, he regretted trying to act tough at the stadium. This isn't the same game I described before; there was actually more going on. 🤣🤣

Terry Lee3, impressive photo reportage here. 😁 👍 Just one correction regarding this image:

Terry Lee3 said:http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7282/neredi52ei3.jpg

That was at the Lakers game when the White supporters held up their banner. My club, my city.

Ethan Moore56 said:What lies. On November 2, 2002, maybe 5 to 10 people rushed the field, and they were acting alone. There is footage from that round of the MLS. That last picture isn't from that derby; you can see the cemetery in the background, and back then you didn't have banners on the fence. In 2002, there were clashes with police on both sides of the stands. We held up four of your banners, and while the police tried to take them back, there weren't really any major pitch invasions...

Can't speak on '98. Wasn't there.

I don't know if that was 2002. It wasn't 5 or 10 people. Three or two were detained immediately, and the third is the shirtless guy in these shots. He had a rough time on the track; I couldn't believe it when I saw him after he was picked up—the kid took about 15 kicks. You don't need to say anything about '98; the photos show everything. As for those banners, I have no idea what you're talking about. By the way, one more detail from that same '98 game:

Hard to believe. Along the entire west stand, the group held up the confiscated banners. I think this is the most opposing banners ever seized and burned at a single game in our history.

Terry Lee3 said:I think this was that specific game...😉

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt-K_wscLI0

That’s it. Pure madness during that match. Pitch invasions twice, 60th minute, chaos with the police. Unforgettable sight: the riot squad forming a line across the entire center of the field—the papers even ran a photo titled "Saturday's Starting Lineup" or something similar. West gate doors breached, fences torn down in several spots. One guy charging at a cop had guts, I'll give him that. After the players exchanged hugs with the 😁 crew, they headed toward the East stands. Those brave fans didn't even bite on the provocations; they just stayed rooted to their seats. It wasn't the first time at the stadium where the heavy hitters from the opposing city wouldn't budge from their spots while the other side walked right past them to taunt them. I don't believe we'll ever see scenes like that in an American stadium again.

P.S. Found another old photo from back then, showing the whole West stand:

http://www.hnkhajduk.com/galerija/al...j-rij-0020.jpg

http://www.hnkhajduk.com/galerija/al...j-rij-0019.jpg

The 02/03 season matchup at Wrigley Field. Seeing this photo for the first time. Nothing special.😉

Man, things have gotten intense on this forum. I'm almost at tears here.🤣

stormyseal9 said:Basically, they're all just his brother's cronies—Denno hanging out with Brajda and File over by the Susquehanna River. And listen to this guy, acting like he’s big-time when he’s just some former bottom-feeder from a local LLC. Guess who?

Someone translate this for him.

I was scrolling through a few pages back and something caught my eye from some self-proclaimed expert on fan culture using the handle the blue prince, he said this:

Steven Garcia3 said:I need this because some forum user got all offended when I suggested that the only group worth comparing our guys to in America is Torca. Then he started hyping up the fleet like crazy—talking about how hard it is to support Cibalija, how many bans they have (which, by the way, you probably have the fewest of among any serious groups), and all that nonsense... screw your excuses! Man up and admit if you've changed your stance compared to a few years ago, just like I’m saying we aren't even from the North anymore...

What "serious groups" are you even talking about? You can count the truly serious supporter groups in America on one hand. As for bans, honestly, it’s pathetic. If at least 100 people in the fleet actually had bans, maybe you could argue online about who's tougher, right gelipteru?
so thank god nobody in the group is banned. What does that say about you? Thinking like that makes your group hit rock bottom. It's that kind of mentality—that "we're the best in the city, beat the cops" attitude—that eventually comes back to bite you. And then you say "screw your excuses," yet you spend your time complaining about how the older generation doesn't lecture us or how the younger ones act out. But hey, since you love excuses so much (and if you're so obsessed with ban counts, the number in the fleet isn't exactly negligible)

Terry Lee3 said:I've heard of those guys... maybe four or five of them... they go by K.B.C. (K...something...uncensored)... not sure if that's who you mean. I don't follow them closely myself (though I listen, obviously), but my close friends are deep into that B. W. f scene...

It might be some subgroups 🤷 😁😁

Updated report including several new photos 👍

http://www.armada-cleveland.org/report.php?id=399

Quick thoughts on the game. That message to Memphis was brilliant—kudos to the boys. As for everything else, like I said before, we’re always here when things get tough, and that won't change. BTW, it was both hilarious and pathetic watching those "ninja turtles" fumble with their helmets and visors twice (once before the 60th minute and again near the end) just to get ready to support their favorite playmaker. Regardless, credit where it's due: the guys are always ready. Apparently, every squad out West is made up of hardened criminals and ex-cons, and clearly, their biggest crime is being loyal to Cleveland.

😂 We clearly demonstrated our solidarity with their issues, if you can even call them that.