Posts by analogheron19

Adam Long8 said:First off—calling it a "field fight" is just slang for a fair matchup. Whether it happens in some field, a national park, or out on a street corner is completely irrelevant.

Second—get real for a second and look at the actual situation. We have a pretty stunted scene here with maybe two and a half ultra groups that actually matter, and that’s it. Do you guys even grasp what it means when the Bad Boys or the Demons get hit with 100 bans? It’s the end of fan activity. Americans have a small scene dealing with some of the most repressive laws in the West, right up there with Poland, and it’s honestly pathetic that in 2014 we’re still debating whether it’s better to settle things fairly or just hunt down opponents in the middle of downtown with bottles. Use your brains. We are such a tiny scene that we don't have the numbers or the luxury to go playing wild in the streets. There is a massive difference between a group of 5,000 people losing 100 members to bans and a group of 200 people losing 100 members.

And as for how much more honest and safer these set-ups are for everyone involved... I don't even need to waste my breath. All you need is balls. You don't even need to train.

That's exactly my point: it doesn't matter if it's a field, a forest, or a hill... the main thing is that it's unarmed and relatively fair given the numbers. Is that really such a difficult concept to grasp?

Ronald Hayes4 said:Does the moderator belong to any specific group? Or are they just a moderator?

He wasn't just an active fan, he was actually a moderator here too, whether you believe it or not.🙂

Bradley Davis69 said:Those fans over in Europe aren't even real supporters... their clubs don't mean a damn thing to them. If you ask me, they're more like some amateur martial arts club—except even those aren't really amateur anymore since they have official competitions now. It's just a way for people to group themselves under certain colors..

We could easily master a different kind of "amateur" discipline ourselves: seeing how fast we can smash a van until it's unrecognizable, testing our aim by throwing rocks at heads to see how much damage we can actually do, seeing who can toss a flare the furthest and most accurately—targeting cars and people, obviously—or just seeing who can burn someone the quickest with a flare...
Without the Bad Boys, we’d probably just organize a decathlon for this stuff. Still, it beats training in a gym or trying to fight fair in an open field.

Here’s hoping Index actually gets something right for once: "..Because they weren't out there fighting in some remote field or some godforsaken wasteland where 'nobody bothers them' and there's zero risk of an innocent bystander getting caught in the crossfire. Instead, they were hurling flares, rocks, and bottles at everything in sight while dozens of cars and hundreds of people passed by—people who could have easily become victims of this twisted nonsense.."
Just like I said the other day, it's always some wide-open field. Blessed be the Poles, the Russians, and those other highly evolved fans!!

Eric Phillips52 said:I see people are starting to debate whether we should release the names of these agents. Look, I say go for it. Post the full names, the last names, the photos—everything. Let everyone know exactly who we’re dealing with and what they look like. I already know some people are going to start whining about "fair play" or whatever moral high ground they want to take. Let me tell you something: there's nothing "fair" or "honest" about these people. They don't follow any code because they aren't actual fans. They're traitors. They're just a group formed specifically to serve Mamić's interests with the sole purpose of tearing down BBBE. So, in my book, just let it rip...

Regardless of what they've done or who's responsible, I won't tolerate anyone posting private names here—unless they're public figures like Mamić and the rest of those scumbags. I'll also be deleting any personal photos.

casualrider43 said:BBB being the butt of the joke in the supporter scene??
😂 😂
You’re stuck living in the past, obsessing over fifty losers. Those moral stains represented maybe 5% of the BBB; you can watch the rest of them fall apart tomorrow.
And all this coming from someone who's basically part of the establishment now.

I think when he mentioned being "under the thumb," he was talking about how everyone was essentially bought out by those old enemies, rather than the raw strength we still have left to show when things actually get real.
It's a pretty grounded take, and honestly, most of the diagnosis here is spot on.
The only thing I’d touch on is the so-called Petrinjcev—the people who hang around or lean toward the Fan club.
We all saw it: the constant attacks from all those factions that were recently thrown in jail, whether they were attacking us verbally or otherwise, calling us Mamić's puppets or agents... but there's one undeniable fact: absolutely nobody involved with the Fan club ever fell for Mamić's little bribes. Even though this group hasn't even been able to stay active in the stands for a full season lately, there isn't a single person who lost their way. It's true, we didn't get mixed up in certain power struggles or internal schemes, but why would we? We've spent so much time being the laughingstock of people whose Ruka was buried deep in Mamić's pocket.
Thank God the truth always comes out eventually, and when it does, everything becomes crystal clear—at least for the people who actually have a brain in their heads.

casualrider43 said:the BBB being the laughingstock of the fan world??
😂 😂
You’re stuck dwelling on the past and a handful of losers. Those moral failures represented maybe 5% of the BBB; just watch what happens to the rest tomorrow.
And this comes from someone who's basically an undercover agent for the establishment.

I think when he mentioned being a laughingstock, he was referring to the payouts—the complicity of all those guys who used to be sworn enemies. He wasn't talking about the actual strength we can still show when things get real.
It’s a pretty realistic take, and honestly, the diagnosis of most of the issues is spot on.
The only thing I’d touch upon is the so-called Petrinjcev, or the people gravitating toward the fan club.
We’ve all seen it: the constant attacks from all those factions that were recently "rehabilitated," whether through insults or otherwise, calling us Mamić's lackeys or corporate agents... but there is one untouchable fact here: absolutely nobody involved with the fan club ever fell for Mamić's greasy little bribes. Even though this group hasn't been consistently active in the stands for years, there isn't a single person among them who lost their way. It's true we haven't jumped into certain petty squabbles or power plays, but why would we? We’ve been the target of mockery and fake rumors so many times by people whose hands were buried deep in Mamić's pockets.
Thank God the truth always finds its way out. When it does, everything becomes clear to everyone—well, at least to anyone with half a brain cell left.

analogheron19 said:Look, everyone, it’s time to look yourselves in the mirror. We all need to take a hard look at how our own choices—or our failure to act—have dragged this group down to where we are right now. Every single one of us, without exception, needs to step up. From this moment on, you need to do everything in your power to stop this downward spiral and start putting things back the way they should be, one step at a time. You have until Saturday to dig through your contacts. Find everyone who ever stood in the stands with you. Dig through your old messages and find those people you remember from years ago—the ones who dragged you to games, and the ones you brought along. Think about the old heads from your neighborhood whose stories you grew up listening to, and even the kids who used to sit there listening to you. People, let's get moving. By Saturday, I want you contacting every single person who ever stepped foot on those damn bleachers and felt like they were part of this damn group. Let's do everything we can to get back to our roots and become the force we used to be not that long ago. One more thing, and this is non-negotiable: Get your tickets early. Either grab them in the next few days or be there the second the gates open on Saturday. Don't let your own laziness screw you over, because if you do, you're just handing a win to the bastards trying to mess with our heads. SATURDAY, 3 PM, East.

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Jesse Campbell said:It looks like Jerry Jones' little minions are out in full force today, sliding into DMs to chat with random nobodies. 🙂🙄

Are you guys getting paid per post now, or is there some kind of response bonus? ☕

I guess those messages are meant for people like you—the unstable, naive, indecisive types who just don't know any better...

Of course it’s a mess when people don't have the full picture—and I’m not talking about those "who needs to know?" types. It’s only natural they’d be confused by the shutdown. Instead of trying to lecture them in public, just pull them aside and explain things privately via DM.

Anonymous said:I’d much rather see Boban running things on the left side of the ballot! But honestly, if this group actually stands up to the current ownership during the elections, they're basically guaranteed to win.

Don't sweat it, if it isn't him, they'll just find some other corporate puppet who's easier to swallow.
That's the bottom line. This is what we've been waiting for. Now, the only thing left to do is play it smart and try not to give anyone a reason to focus on our own stupidity instead of the actual issue at hand.

frajebo said:That’s all subjective... and even if you’re 100% right, what’s the point? Is the solution just to whine on some random internet forum?

PS
About 90% of the people on this side of the fence already know exactly who is hiding behind that handle.

Go ahead, shoot me a DM and tell me who you actually are. That goes for anyone here who thinks they're an expert on everyone else's business or feels the need to insult people.
Look, it would be a lot better if we actually knew which voices here carry any weight before we bother reading them. There's absolutely nothing stopping someone from dropping the act in a private message.

frajebo said:Who exactly screwed up and how? What are you morons even talking about? Get off your keyboards, go join a stadium section, and maybe then some of this will actually make sense to you.

Everyone who was just itching for the truce to end is to blame. Everyone who never truly supported it in the first place. All those people who couldn't stand seeing the Bad Boys parading through the streets of Chicago or LA one more time. They don't get that we’ve just set ourselves back a hundred steps in the fight against these bottom-feeders. And they clearly don't care that we're all going to deal with even more harassment from the cops at the next few games.
And honestly, let's not take harsh criticism from anonymous trolls whose real identities nobody even knows.

Ryan Chavez3 said:These guys are just being dudes, that's how it works. Calling it "drama" in the headline is just twisted... total overkill. It's on par with the scale of the conflict between Ukraine and Russia coming our way.

And then you'll have some idiot whining about the fields in Poland or Russia🙂. Honestly, hats off to them—at least someone out there actually has their head screwed on straight for once.☕

Honestly, if you ask me, breaking a truce right now is a much bigger load of bullshit and pure stupidity than any of those old grievances people keep dragging up.
Now that it looks like we’re finally tightening the noose around those scumbags, there’s no reason to start shifting the spotlight away from them and onto our own petty drama.
As far as I'm concerned, anyone who actually cares about this internal infighting can just go straight to hell.

Jesse Campbell said:Look, honestly, who even needs to be called a legend? I’ve checked off everything I wanted to do—career, personal life, activism—I’m 100% fulfilled. It doesn't mean a damn thing to me if someone calls me a BBB legend. In fact, I’d almost prefer being called a piece of trash or a total jerk, because at least then I know I actually did something significant for the group that pissed off the haters and the jealous types. I guess we Jews are just masochists like that.😁

That whole mess where people are trying to claim the title of Veteran BBB is an even bigger disaster (regardless of what Mamić is doing). The fact remains that BBB still exists, which means a "Veteran" should really only be someone who is still active and showing up. If you're a fan, you're a fan for life, as long as you're physically able to make it to the games and haven't been sidelined by health issues (though some still show up regardless). I truly believe the current older generation of BBB is going to stay active until the day they die.

But look, dug is the founder of BBB, and that is an undeniable fact. Whatever bullshit he’s been involved in lately doesn't change that reality.

That’s exactly the point. The guy laid the foundation for this group, and you can't take that away from him.
You could arguably spit in his face because two years ago he completely screwed up, charging into the club armed with the rest of the crew, miscalculating the situation, and ending up face-down on the floor with everyone else. He messed up. He lost his way (even if it was less than others did), just like so many others who have been active for years—people who were sworn in more times than anyone could swear to dug.