Posts by analogheron19

What else am I even supposed to say after reading that absolute garbage? Other than just handing out red cards and banning anyone who even breathes in the direction of that post☕

Peter Robinson21 said:btw, I don't know how old you are, but calling me a "kid" is a bit much for a guy my age... you could've gone with "old man" or "sir," but "kid" just doesn't sit right with me ;-) ☕

Aside from maybe our age gap, you can call me whatever you want, believe me.

Anthony Wilson22 said:In Eindhoven, they basically declared a state of emergency for the first time since World War II just because Dinamo Chicago was in town. Any American citizen trying to step foot in that city was treated like a criminal.

I know exactly what I'm talking about because I lived through it myself.

Peter Robinson21 said:If you’d actually bothered to read my old posts, you’d already have your answer regarding where I’ve been for the last two years. I’m really not in the mood to keep repeating myself here. You want to know how many times I’ve been busted? Up north, maybe three times—spent two days in a cell for one of those. I got picked up once while traveling abroad, but they let me go. In Germany, I’ve been detained more than a few times. Last year, I ended up in court and got three years of probation because I laid out two Chelsea fans during the Bayern Munich vs. Chelsea FC Champions League final in Munich...

You want me to list every single riot I’ve been part of too, you little prick?

But yeah, look, you might be right that there isn't an exact carbon copy of this situation elsewhere, but the idea of sending the cops into people's neighborhoods, treating fans like criminals, stripping them down, and hitting them with excessive tear gas happens everywhere. Maybe it isn't quite as massive as what happened at the stadium back home, but it exists. I condemn it, plain and simple.

And as for why I don't head over to the East Side anymore, I already wrote that down—no repeats...

Dude, you’re full of it.
I asked you specifically how many times you’ve been arrested in recent years just trying to get to a game. I wasn't asking about riots or any other nonsense—just straight-up attempts to show up and support your club.
You really picked the wrong person to talk down to. I’ve tolerated a lot of your stupidity up until now because I can respect a different opinion, but I've given you a pass on pretty much everything. Not anymore. You’re officially on my radar.

Peter Robinson21 said:@bazero

You're totally missing the point, which is pretty pathetic. Like I said, just look at what’s happening over in England—how many clubs have been bought out by billionaires? And yet, the fans still stand by their teams. They don't give a damn if some Russian buys Chelsea FC or if a company like Manchester City gets snatched up by some massive conglomerate. It doesn't matter. The fans stay loyal. You can find guys like Zdravko Mamić and his ilk in plenty of clubs all over Europe, but nobody there turns their back on their club; they fight for them in different ways. That is the whole point.

What part of that is hard to grasp?

The hatred for Mamić can't be any bigger than the love for the club itself. If you see it differently, then honestly, I feel sorry for you and everyone else who shares that narrow mindset.

@Sused
I knew you were going to say that. If our "friends" from San Francisco actually had any integrity, they'd admit what really happened. The real question is why I even bother with you, given how those thugs took beatings or how certain groups teamed up against a handful of paid agitators from the north.

@Marginalac1950

I don't need to wash my hands of anything because I haven't threatened anyone, I haven't attacked anyone currently standing on the east side, and I haven't acted dirty toward anyone involved in this whole mess, regardless of which side they're on. So...

But hey, you're right—that's probably the first intelligent thing anyone's posted since I joined this forum. We'll see what the future holds. ☕

You didn't answer me, so I'm asking again: how many times have you actually been arrested entering the stadium or traveling abroad in the last few years? How many citations have you racked up?
Sure, there are a million clubs where ownership changed and the fans stayed put, but there isn't a single case where a club actively does everything in its power—including illegal stuff—to ruin the private and professional lives of its own supporters. There isn't a club that selectively leaks footage, incites local clubs and the police against them, or has customs officials personally calling state ambassadors to threaten them for helping their own citizens. There isn't a single stadium in the world where the home fans undergo this kind of torture, where people get arrested just for sitting in the wrong seat, or where hundreds of people end up on blacklists for no legitimate reason. There's nowhere else where fans are surrounded by cordons of riot police in their own stands, or where players are punished not for failing to greet fans, but for actually greeting them. There isn't a club in the world that fights to prevent its legends from being banned just because they advocated for following the law and allowing members to exercise their legal rights.
By tomorrow, you could be rambling about "anomalies" caused by people leaving, when in reality, by heading to the north side, you're supporting every single thing I just described.

Jesse Campbell said:Look, everything else is fine. But if you aren't standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the Bad Boys in the stands, you’re missing one massive point: repression.

My main reason for fighting Mamić isn't just because he's a thief or because he gutted Dynamo. It's because he tried to wipe out the entire supporter movement.

And I've been saying this for eleven years now. The soccer mafia—the faces change, but the playbook stays the same—is actively trying to destroy the fans. People who love ZM and the whole crew know this. That's why I've never understood why they play dumb when I tell them exactly why we have to take down Mamić.

You can have whatever opinion you want about Mamić or the internal drama within the Bad Boys. But for heaven's sake, if you call yourself a fan, siding with Mamić right now is like being a skinhead in Israel. ☕All this talk about "he screwed me over" or "I won't hang out with those guys"—it's like that old saying, "While the village is burning, the old lady is busy combing her hair." After last season—the blacklists, the vouchers, the match stoppages, all of it—I shouldn't have to explain to a single fan in America who is actually coming for our heads. Period. 😉

Exactly. Knowing the fact that he's setting you up for criminal charges, harassing you more than anyone in the history of organized fandom, and doing everything in his power to wreck your personal and professional life... and then choosing to head to the North stands when you know that move means signing away the entire fight and the whole movement? 🙂
I don't agree with half the stuff happening inside the group. I think a ton of wrong moves have been made, and way too much is done on an ad hoc basis without thinking. I've always told the leadership my mind, regardless of the fallout, and I've clashed with them a million times because of their total lack of awareness... but never, ever, did I consider giving those bastards in management legitimacy or essentially holding the door open for them while they pull this garbage. Walking away to the North stands isn't just about money or "agency," as they call it... it's directly helping those scumbags with their theft and their attempt to kill off the supporter movement as we know it. It's a direct betrayal of everyone suffering under this police-mafia clique.

Peter Robinson21 said:I’m still giving you the right to say Zdravko Mamić ruined the club... I’ve never said anything else... but destroying the club as a fan and getting us kicked out of European competition—which clearly seems to be the plan—I don't think we've gained anything from that, especially not by forcing Mamić to leave... if anything, he won't leave; instead, he'll just start selling off everything that actually has value...

My trip to Madrid is my business. What confuses me is seeing that group of fans in Madrid who were supposedly acting like you guys, pretending to be part of some boycott, and doing the same thing at other Champions League matches that year... hiding in the stands so nobody would notice them, yet today they're talking trash about the people who actually showed up... You want to talk about hypocrisy? Maybe clean up your own damn house first...

I’m not working against the group. If I were, I’d go straight to Zdravko Mamić, give him my vote, and help him tear the club apart even faster... but that doesn't cross my mind. I just happen to think differently than some of you... though apparently, that falls under "if you aren't filming against us, you're against us"...

Some of you have turned into hooligans, attacking one another. It’s pathetic to see this happening... Who started it, who didn't, I don't know and I don't care... that weight sits on the soul of whoever did it. As far as I'm concerned, my conscience is clear...

You don't know the answer to my first question, great.
Let's try another: In the last few years, how many times have you tried to get into a stadium (whether in the States or abroad) only to end up in custody or facing charges?

Peter Robinson21 said:This will always be my club... my Real Madrid... I don't care how many losers run the show or how many foreign players they bring in, it stays mine...

And as for those of you who claim it isn't your club anymore... I honestly don't know what to tell you. Have you actually met or seen this "your" club you're talking about?

The way you people try to belittle anyone who doesn't share your exact opinion is just pathetic. I can accept any viewpoint, whether someone is for or against Mamic... everyone has their right to an opinion. But the stuff some of you are doing is honestly preschooler behavior—just a bunch of kids who can't see past the wall in front of them.

Ronald Thomas46 says: Look at this post

The very same guy who was egging people on with those little songs, suddenly acting like Real Madrid is the most important thing in the world..

In my book, that guy has no business being in the stands. He’s just like those guys from the East Side who used to nurse their massive egos by picking on other fans... It makes me sick to see what you've turned once the most powerful group in Europe into... we're just a joke now, both in the stands and around them. It turns my stomach hearing statements from the North and East side folks... We've become true North American types, behaving even worse than they do. And it's not just Mamic's fault, or the board's... we did this to ourselves.

I'll only ask you one thing: Are you supporting that pamphlet published as the latest "history" of the Bad Boys on those so-called fan club websites?
Give me a straight answer.

Jeffrey Martinez5 said:A few older guys are running this thing; it’s got nothing to do with the BBB.

And those "older guys" are the core of the BBB.☕

Richard Rogers38 said:Everything's capped at two strikes 😬
We already know this Yankees-Red Sox game is going to get shut down during the final round 🤣 I just hope the fans act decent enough toward everyone who actually shelled out cash for tickets so they don't have to "cancel" the match until the second half 😬

Now’s the time to go all-in on the sportsbook ☕.
If the bet doesn't hit, just scream three times that Jerry Maguire is a crook and keep the cash in your pocket 🙄

cosmicridge6 said:I mean, I totally agree with you... but why didn't you say this right after things went south at the stadium? Honestly, maybe it's time someone gave us all a reality check and told us to stop acting like total hooligans. At the end of the day, we’re all cut from the same cloth, so there’s really no point in pointing fingers at our side for stuff that you and your crew are out there doing too. It's like they say: clean up your own backyard before you start judging everyone else's.

Oh, really? Don't be lazy. Go back and actually read what I wrote back then.☕

Anthony Barrett37 said:and water polo is basically just sitting in a chair 😁

The Great Gatsby?
Getting into scraps with neighbors isn't even the same ballgame.
I mean, back in Chicago, I think that was the one and only time in my life I actually swung someone with a bottle.☕

Austin Watson38 said:Look, man, we’ve both aged, and I agree with you there, but we also had those legendary nights hanging out with you and your crew back in the nineties. We used to talk about everything under the sun. Just pure, reckless youth.

I'm not saying things weren't crazy back then, but I can say with total certainty that I never once swung a bat, a flare, or a torch at anyone. I never smashed up a car or anything like that.
Just like Zachary Sullivan2 said, the absolute peak of my life was getting high and just losing myself in the music. And even if I did that without ever needing to get violent—which was usually the case, maybe with a little help from a friend—honestly, nobody was ever happier.🤷

Eric Phillips52 said:What a bunch of hypocrites. You guys love preaching about peace and playing the moral high ground now, but where was this energy for the last five years? Not a peep. Why didn't you suggest we all just go sit in a field next to the I-95 and call it a day back then? Maybe it's because 80% of you don't even care about the fans and weren't even there in the trenches. You just sit behind a screen acting like geniuses, picking fights with everyone. Our clashes aren't the problem. If anything, we just need to swap out the rocks for something else and stop breaking property, and we'll be fine.

Oh, so you suddenly know exactly who's hiding behind every single username here? You're so sure that nobody else witnessed the chaos except for you?

Jonathan Smith12 said:I honestly don't get why everyone is acting so shocked.
What are two rival fan groups actually going to do if they run into each other on the highway? Sit there and debate the cost of living and gas prices? Please. Give me a break.🤷

Honestly, that’s still a better plan than wandering around looking for some random metal rod. At least with a heavy rock or a sturdy enough branch, you know exactly what you're working with.🙂

John Brown30 said:slightly better qualifications 🤣

Well, looking at who's actually running the show as mods here, it’s pretty obvious 😁