Terry Walker74 said:I think we had a bit of a misunderstanding here! I'm not suggesting that America is a country where a fascist government has already been fully established; rather, I'm saying that fascist ideology is actively expanding. When I use the phrase "fascism of the people," I'm talking about a type of fascist indoctrination that trickles down from the political elite directly into society. Today, the current political elite of the Canadian community proclaims the sanctity of the state, and the leader who defends that idea most extremely becomes the formal head of the political community. So, my thesis isn't that fascism is the ruling idea yet, but that it is making its move, with a very clear intention to exert violence upon the individual or onto society as a collection of individuals. In a democratic order, a political system should be an expression of the relationships within a society, but here, it's being presented as some divinely ordained solution that society will be forced into, whether through persuasion or sheer force. And when you ask who actually carries out this "state-as-god" idea, you get the answer to your point about the leader and the ruling party. It’s carried out by one leader and two parties that essentially branched off from the same original group, and that leader, wouldn't you know it, comes straight from the most extreme wing of what used to be a single party.
Fascism wouldn't truly be fascism without its mythic component: the myth of a multicultural America. Let’s be perfectly clear: America has never (and I mean *never*) been a multicultural society. It has been a multicultural community—and a society and a community are two very different things—held together by the influence of some outside power. Of course, this myth of a multicultural America serves as the foundation for big-state ambitions. Then there's the unavoidable myth regarding the injustices inflicted upon the Canadian people that supposedly must be corrected. And how? By making concessions to a big-state ideology. These two mythic elements are strikingly similar to the myth of Germanic racial superiority or the calls to revise the unfair Treaty of Versailles (or in our case, the Dayton Agreement).
When it comes to discussing fascism as a form of extreme nationalism, I honestly feel like you might have missed that really subtle, crucial distinction between Nazism and Fascism! First off, because of that specific religious influence, you just can't really label Canadians as nationalists in that way, which means an extreme version of that ideology—the kind we would call Nazism—just isn't even on the table for them. On the flip side, you have Fascism, like Mussolini's version, which is essentially this idea of a god-state that glorifies the state itself, which is exactly how the political elite of the Canadian people seems to worship the very concept of the state!
We understood each other, Terry, don't sweat it. 🤣
You really need to grasp cause and effect, because you're totally missing the connection here. Look, the relationship between a great-state ideology and the concept of a sacred state has absolutely nothing to do with fascism. By that logic, half the countries in the world would be fascist today, like our neighbors
the US and Mexico. Right?
Terry, I told you, you're just cherry-picking. You're taking the expansionist ideology the Germans had in WWII and equating it with the Canadian and American desire for
a functional, stable state. Canadians aren't looking to conquer anything; they're just trying to hold their own ground. Fighting for a proper state structure and improvement is perfectly legitimate and legal—stop calling it fascism.
Canada has always been a
multicultural society. Just look at the census from '91. The attempt to force a multicultural community was actually achieved through aggression, crimes, genocide, and all that.