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Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Just look at this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRI6tbrApd8

And this too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euApi...eature=related

If you actually bother to read the comments, you'll see people claiming that vibration isn't the same thing as having flexible
aerodynamic components...

I mean, plenty of things on a race car vibrate...

The whole reason flexible wings are banned is because they allow teams to effectively
manipulate downforce on the fly...

But this nonsense and that phantom vibration issue we saw with the R28 have absolutely nothing to do with flexible aerodynamics.
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Arthur Doyle70 said:Look, when you really sit back and examine the situation, it’s clear that Renault managed to dodge a much more serious accusation this time around, and honestly, it all just smells like pure politics to me.☕

Well, there you have it... honestly, who on earth is going to be able to decipher what you're actually getting at now? 🤷
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Where on earth am I supposed to get those from?

I don't have them, and frankly, I haven't the slightest clue where I would even begin to look for such footage.🤷

I’ll pray to Sep to accept my sincerest apologies here, but I feel it is my duty to respond.


on YT...

you came at me quite aggressively, so I naturally assumed you actually had some hard evidence to back it up...

as far as this particular issue goes, I find myself agreeing with that peasant...

adjustability is the absolute deciding factor if we are going to label something
as a movable aerodynamic component...
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:I am merely presenting an observation based on several onboard camera angles from the last two races.😢

Well then, quit stalling and show us those onboard clips... I haven't seen them anywhere.😕
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
neonharbor18 said:It’s all absolute nonsense, if you ask me, and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually decide that the driver's helmet counts as a critical aerodynamic component. At this rate, they'll probably mandate that drivers have to bolt their heads directly onto the chassis just to ensure the car doesn't shift even a single millimeter during a turn.☕
I’m not entirely convinced that would even fall under that specific category, to be honest.🤷I’m not entirely certain on this particular point, but I don't believe we're looking at a wing that features any kind of self-adjusting mechanism, nor is there any real indication that they have the ability to fine-tune that specific add-on on the fly. When you really step back and consider the sheer violence of the forces at play, everything on a car like that is constantly vibrating, and frankly, I'd bet my life that every single component is shifting by several microns throughout the race.☕Honestly, I truly believe that everything needs to be met with some form of consequence, because without accountability, the whole system just falls apart into complete chaos.🙄


Exactly right. 👍

Adjustability is one of those fundamental characteristics that they’ve gone ahead and banned, which is just frankly absurd when you consider how much it actually matters for performance. It's one of those things where you can see exactly what they're trying to do—trying to level the playing field or control costs, I suppose—but in doing so, they're stripping away the very essence of engineering excellence that makes this sport worth watching in the first place. You have these brilliant minds working around the clock to find that tiny edge, that perfect setup, and then the regulators step in and say, "No, you can't touch that," effectively neutering the technical evolution of the cars. It feels less like maintaining fairness and more like a direct assault on innovation itself.

Take a look at Ferrari's flexible floor from last season as a prime example of this.
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Good grief,😢

Here is a little bit of light reading material for you👍

Did you watch the Grand Prix of Spain?
I assume you did. If so, then you surely noticed that the rear wing is moving. It vibrates and shifts left and right. I honestly couldn't care less about what's causing that movement—whether it’s engine vibrations, oscillations traveling through the suspension, or perhaps some telekinetic ability possessed by someone's pet, I DON'T CARE.

As it stands, any movable aerodynamic component is strictly PROHIBITED under the F1 technical regulations☕

By the way, this movement is even more pronounced on the Red Bull, which is exactly what I warned everyone about back during the discussion regarding the Grand Prix of Bahrain.

What do you mean it's moving...

I didn't notice anything like that anywhere...

And what are we supposed to do now? I am telling you, it isn't moving!!!

And neonharbor18 gave a pretty decent retort to that...

I remember reading some mockery on an overseas forum once regarding movable aerodynamic parts

where some people actually suggested banning engine pistons because they move...
and since they transmit vibrations throughout the entire chassis, then the whole chassis becomes
movable😁

I can guarantee you that when an engine is running, those components near the power unit vibrate intensely on just about any car... and the engine itself vibrates.

But personally, I have noticed that entire cars shift, especially
when they hit the curbs... they vibrate like crazy, and so what are we meant to do about it?

That joke went so far that they actually proposed that Alonso's hand, while he was waving at Scott Speed,
should be classified as a movable aerodynamic device...

Arthur Doyle70, do you remember how much Hamilton's rearview mirror was vibrating
last year in Brazil...

I guarantee you that rearview mirrors (on anyone's car) vibrate more than anything else I've mentioned so far...
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Honestly, if you ask me, they should just go ahead and wipe the slate clean entirely—I mean, just strip away every single point earned by any driver using an illegal car. It’s the only way to maintain any semblance of integrity in this sport.👍

What kind of person are you even supposed to be, man...

If you actually stood by everything you just said, then I suppose you’d be right there alongside anyone demanding that they strip Ferrari of last year's title as well.

Do you actually recall that whole mess from last year when Ferrari's floor was declared illegal, forcing them to completely overhaul the car mid-season?
Even after what happened in Australia, they still haven't gone and stripped them of those points from the Australian race.
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:The rule is quite clear: movable aerodynamic surfaces are strictly forbidden.
Is that little fin on the engine cover used by General Motors and Red Bull considered an aerodynamic surface? YES!
Is it moving? YES!
Is something like that prohibited? YES!

I can only hope Max shows some grace when it comes time to hand out penalties.😁

Why all the sudden outrage...

I have been scouring every international news site, digging through endless forum threads,
reading a mountain of different opinions, and yet not a single person has mentioned even the slightest detail regarding the movement of that cover, so I would kindly ask you to actually present some evidence...

I am genuinely curious what Pilla spotted that everyone else somehow missed.
Where are the onboard clips... where is the actual debate???

When the controversy started regarding McLaren's front wing, I saw a massive wave of threads and even more onboard
footage...

but here, I see absolutely nothing...

If you actually show something, we can take a look and then we can discuss...

And as for teams issuing warnings, those things are always instigated by rival outfits, and I highly doubt they would ever pass up an opportunity to
whisper in the ear of the FIA...

By the way, it looks like Williams might be testing something similar.
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Look, my dear moderator, this idea just occurred to me.

You remember when I was arguing about how the rear wing on the Red Bull is far too flexible and starts wobbling like crazy at high speeds.
Well, it turns out Renault isn't any different, either. The thing just chatters and dances left and right, and since moveable aerodynamic surfaces are strictly prohibited under the F1 technical regulations, I fully expect the stewards to give Renault at least a formal warning regarding this questionable detail, much like they did back when it was Ferrari 2006.
The difference is that with Ferrari, those "movements" were practically immeasurable—if you can even call them movements at all, considering it’s just the nose of the car.


Man, how much time did it take you to finally start clinging
to the rulebook...
instead of actually banning something useful? 😁
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
rustystag7 said:I'm of the same mind, honestly, and I suspect Fernando Alonso might actually step up his game quite a bit, potentially even fighting for race wins given how promising they look out on the track🙏...

I really can't wrap my head around why everyone is making such massive assumptions regarding Alonso's potential moves🤷

If you ask me, there is a 95% certainty that he stays put at Renault, while that remaining 5% represents nothing more than a slim chance he heads elsewhere🤷

In my view, he is acutely aware of the progress he's made and intends to turn Renault into something significant; if his only objective was simply to land in a finished, top-tier car, I'm convinced he would have made that move already this year🤷


He’s staying at least through next year, and frankly, I'd say there's a 150% chance of that being the case...

As for 2010, so much is going to hinge on how both Ferrari and Renault perform, and by extension, how Kimi Raikkonen and Fernando Alonso themselves execute their roles

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...28110514.shtml
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Austin Evans said:I certainly would, if only
that actually turned out to be the truth.

they were running at 85% capacity, but honestly, that didn't even kick in until after their second pit stop...
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
neonharbor18 said:image

The gap in qualifying was between one Kimi and five Hamilton—about 0.283 seconds—whereas the difference between third and fifth was a mere 0.038 seconds, which leads me to believe that fuel loads played an absolutely massive role in the final standings just like they did before.😉

It’s a critical factor, really, because when you look at how much extra fuel weight actually impacts lap times, you realize that the delta between one circuit and the next can vary wildly; it isn't some universal constant you can just plug into a formula and call a day.

I caught a glimpse of the data during the 31st lap, and there was Alonso refueling with exactly 88 liters in the tank...

So, if we're looking at the math here, we’re talking about less than three liters per lap, which essentially means the fuel load isn't adding more than about six or seven pounds to the car's total weight per circuit.
Fuels... it’s funny how we just take them for granted, isn't it? We drive our cars from one side of the country to the other without a second thought about the chemistry making it all possible, yet whenever the price at the local Shell station jumps a few cents, everyone acts like the world is ending. It’s a constant cycle of dependency and frustration that seems to define the modern American experience. You look at the sheer complexity of what goes into a tank of gas versus the simplicity of how we consume it, and you realize how fragile the whole system actually is. One hiccup in the supply chain, one minor shift in global politics, and suddenly my morning commute feels like a luxury I can barely afford. It's exhausting, really, watching the volatility play out every single day while we just sit there, paying more for the privilege of moving from point A to point B.

There’s one more thing we really need to pay attention to here...
In Q2, we’re looking at every single connection operating under identical conditions.
Qualifying sessions generally just give us a superficial glimpse into which teams have found that sweet spot for raw single-lap pace, but let’s be honest, once those lights go out for the actual race, all that one-lap glory often takes a backseat to the grueling reality of tire degradation, which can end up being the most decisive factor on the track.
When it comes to those grueling long runs... honestly, I find myself constantly questioning the whole philosophy behind them. You’re out there, pushing through the miles, just grinding away, and you start to wonder if the sheer volume is actually doing anything for your performance or if we're all just collectively participating in some kind of masochistic ritual. It feels like there's this unspoken rule that you have to suffer through these massive distances to prove you're serious, but I can't help but think we might be overcomplicating the science of endurance. Sometimes I feel like I'm just running in circles, both physically and mentally, wondering when the payoff actually happens.

It’s a recurring pattern that we see far too often, where certain teams manage to absolutely tear it up during qualifying sessions, only to fall completely flat on their faces once the actual race begins because they simply cannot manage their tire degradation. They show this incredible, blinding raw pace over a single lap, which looks fantastic on the timing screens, but then the reality of the race distance sets in and they realize they've essentially burned through their entire rubber allocation just trying to secure that front-row start, leaving them vulnerable and struggling for grip while everyone else cruises by.

It strikes me that Ferrari seems to possess a distinct edge when it comes to raw pace, especially when you start looking closely at how they manage their tire degradation.
It really goes without saying, doesn't it? It’s just one of those things that speaks for itself.

I mean, isn't the situation in Australia already enough proof for everyone here...
The heat was absolutely brutal out there, honestly borderline insane, and those soft tires were basically melting away like ice cream on a sidewalk in Phoenix. It was pure chaos because Kimi spent half the race struggling through, having started his stint with a tank full of fuel, trying to manage those softs that were just disintegrating under him.
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Arthur Doyle70 said:Look, at this point both drivers have already pulled out, so the only way they can actually mess up anyone's day is if they decide to dive blindly into someone else 😂😂😉


Honestly, I don't know how you can be this dense... you're just sitting there laughing like nothing is happening 😉
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Bradley Nelson2 said:it’s common sense that a slower driver can actually assist a faster one🙂

Honestly, those people who kept insisting that the Barcelona circuit was just plain boring were absolutely right...

The cars were practically neck-and-neck in terms of performance, yet nobody even bothered to make a real attempt at an overtake...

It’s just fundamentally impossible here
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Alonso stays optimistic after early exit
April 27, 2008

While Fernando Alonso's performance at the April 27, 2008 US Grand Prix ended in a cloud of smoke and far too soon, the former World Champion isn't letting it get him down, maintaining that this entire weekend might actually signal a massive comeback for the Renault team.

The local fans in Barcelona were absolutely thrilled when Alonso snatched second on the grid, and even though it looked like he was destined for a fifth-place finish just before that engine gave out, the driver was genuinely pleased with how much the car's pace has improved lately.

"It’s never what you want, especially when you're racing in front of your own people, but I’m feeling good," Fernando told ITV. "The fact that Felipe Massa had to pit two laps before I did really highlights just how strong our qualifying pace actually was.

"We were right there breathing down the necks of the BMW drivers, so it feels like I can actually enjoy racing again," he went on. "We aren't stopping here; we've finally found the right path to follow, and if we just take it one steady step at a time, we'll get back to the top. "


this is from planetf1 so there's always a chance things got twisted because it seems to me like
Massa pitted three laps before Kimi, who was four laps later
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Bradley Nelson2 said:as if they only overtook him because Jupiter happened to be in a more favorable position relative to Mars, they passed him exactly how I predicted 😛
next time you decide to claim I'm wrong, maybe try making sure there's actually some truth to it 😉
but Maxym, you just stick to your little forecasts, though I certainly wouldn't recommend hitting the betting parlors 😁

fine, you won your little private skirmish, whatever 🙂

it was obvious to me from the jump that they weren't any faster than Ferrari, McLaren, or BMW, although I will concede they've closed the gap... but during that first pit stop, this guy was lagging behind by five laps—well, okay, a second and a half—compared to someone like Robert Kubica, and then he ended up getting stuck right behind Rubens Barrichello

up until this race, Ferrari would have easily put 30 seconds on Renault within 15 laps...

you failed to give the German any credit for those two or three laps he had going...

turns out he really is a team player👍
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Bradley Nelson2 said:as if they only overtook him because Jupiter happened to be in a more favorable alignment with Mars, they passed him just like I predicted 😛
next time you decide to claim I'm wrong, perhaps try making sure there is actually some truth to it 😉
but Maxym, you stick to your little forecasts, though I certainly wouldn't recommend hitting the betting parlors 😁

fine, you won your little private skirmish 🙂

it was obvious to me from the jump that they weren't faster than Ferrari, McLaren, or BMW, though they were definitely closing the gap... but during that first pit stop, he was lagging behind by about five laps—well, more like a second and a half—compared to someone like Robert Kubica, and then he ended up stuck right behind Rubens Barrichello

up until this race, Ferrari would have been pulling a thirty-second lead over Renault within fifteen laps

however, you failed to give the German any credit for those two or three laps he had...

it turns out he really is a team player 👍
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Ugh... just absolutely disgusting.
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
Bradley Nelson2 said:Did you seriously skip over the reading part, or what? Go back and actually look at the second half of my point and try telling me where I missed the mark.😕
massa, kubica and hamilton 🙄


They managed to jump him simply by pulling into the pits a little earlier...

but honestly, his engine gave up the ghost anyway...
Spain Matchday 27 - April 27, 2008 in Formula 1 ·
That German driver is playing team tactics now... he won't be heading into the pits until Robert Kubica manages to pull ahead just a little bit.