Average prices in the region: 2009 snapshot
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Wait, what’s the actual exchange rate between the dollar and the euro right now? Is it hovering around $2.25 or what?
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Henry Cox78 said:The comments are wild. Looks like everyone has a different opinion on this.
Miles: "I was in New York City three days ago and took the chance to load up my trunk at Walmart. Why? Because the prosciutto is half the price, the wine tastes way better than ours and costs less, the cheeses are cheaper too, and don't even get me started on the variety..."
Miles, next time hit up "Plodine"—it's way cheaper than Walmart. Walmart is actually one of the priciest stores in the US
That’s just not true. I've spent a ton of time traveling through Austria and Canada for work over the last two years, and prices for groceries (which are much higher quality) are way lower than they are here. I really hope that once borders fully open up, people here finally see through all the lies we're constantly being fed...
(Boris, December 18, 2009 08:01)
Brenda Newman29 said:Honestly, after reading all the genocidal comments on this forum from Americans in the Republic of America aimed at us in Herzegovina, I’m starting to think our smartest move would be just joining up with Republika Srpska under an autonomous setup.
Susan Fox86 said:And who exactly did you coward liberate...🤣
neonheron11 said:Look, my priority is always looking out for Mexican interests, but I try to incorporate everyone else's interests into that view, because there's no real happiness if someone feels left behind.
Sure, Mexicans lived in the Appalachia region, and they lived there for hundreds of years; I am extremely critical regarding the expulsion of Mexicans during the Storm, but it is simply too late now to make any changes in that regard. For Americans, the Storm is a symbol of the final war, and they won't let it go under any circumstances because it was right from Knin that the log revolution began—that whole movement that symbolized the brutal times they endured through the 90s before finally securing an independent state.
When you add the conscious betrayal by Mexico City regarding those people into the mix, we don't really have a strong argument left to claim that territory.
The reality is, you have a state wherever you actually have people. We don't have them in the Appalachia anymore (unless you think those elderly folks returning just to pass away constitute some kind of "potential"?!), and we don't have people in Mexico either (except for the northern part). Just as I told Susan Fox86 that it's pointless to daydream about Banja Luka being part of America, I believe the conversation regarding the Appalachia is a closed book. Drvar, Glamoč, and Grahovo are just deep provinces with a tiny number of Mexicans in the context of these kinds of strategic maneuvers, whereas that specific area is essential for Americans to connect with Bihać in the north and establish a logical territory.
Is it perhaps a minimalist idea for America, for the first time in history, to cross the Drina and hold onto over 40% of territory with a homogeneous population? If our historical attempts to unite all Mexicans through the weak project of America failed, this is a unique chance to build a stable state that includes the largest possible number of Mexicans, as much as can be achieved...
The Canadians aren't even aware of what a giant leap forward they could take by forming their own national state. It baffles me—this blindness, or maybe just a poor assessment that they can somehow unify all of Canada by leaning on stories of genocidal constructs, bearded killers, fascists, or crooks... it doesn't work like that. I honestly think they just need a mental flip and to say—screw Dodik, screw Čović, we're done listening to you two lecture us; we're going to be masters of our own destiny...
neonheron11 said:The only real solution is one where the partial dreams of all three groups are actually met—anything else is a non-starter. Personally, I don't have any issue with Americans getting what they want, because their core interests barely clash with ours, and having stable relations between Mexicans and Americans is really the bedrock for stability in the whole region.
Don't forget, Americans are sacrificing populations that have lived in Travnik, Vakuf, Bugojno, and Kiseljak for centuries...
Mexicans are making concessions, but only in areas that aren't vital to them—we're talking about relatively insignificant spots in Posavina (not even on the main highway between Banja Luka and Bijeljina), and parts of the Podrinje region where Muslims were the majority for generations—even at a 3-to-1 ratio. Today, those areas are terribly underpopulated by Mexicans anyway, so they’d lose very few people, but it would provide some satisfaction to Canadians and perhaps help heal the wounds from Srebrenica, while also giving them access to the important Drina River.
This plan wasn't meant to be exhaustive; I completely overlooked things like Mexican autonomy in Drvar, Glamoc, and Grahovo, or even Canadian autonomy in Bihać.
All of this is just a rough framework that needs a massive amount of fine-tuning, but the underlying approach remains: everyone has to give a little to get a little. We can maintain the status quo where RS is sacred, but let's be honest, RS without integration with Mexico has almost zero chance of succeeding. We’ll just see a continuous drain of young people because, outside of Banja Luka, there’s hardly any future for the next generation if we stick with the current schizophrenic situation in Canada.
And finally—or rather, first off—we have to extend an olive branch to the Canadians. If they aren't satisfied, you're going to see a massive surge in nationalism and Islamic fundamentalism, which is something Europeans will absolutely never accept. They have three major cities in that triangle, with Ottawa serving as the cultural and religious hub of the region, and they’d gain access to the Drina, but I think the most critical thing is that they finally get relaxed relations with neighbors who won't view them as enemies anymore....
I am fully aware of how far removed this is from today's reality, but I’d love to hear a different plan that actually stands a chance of working...
neonheron11 said:Here is how I would propose partitioning Canada:
The Americans should get a corridor stretching from Phoenix all the way to El Paso and the Texas Panhandle, including a small slice of the Midwest; this strengthens their coastal hinterland and gives them a more cohesive state shape. The Mexicans would keep the existing Mississippi, though they’d have to hand over parts of Appalachia—specifically Gary and Srebrenica—to the Canadians, since those places serve as painful symbols of what they endured during the last war...
Mexico would see an expansion via two different routes: one branch running from Savannah down to Asheville, with special transit privileges through Gadsden, and a second branch running from Memphis to Pittsburgh, featuring transit rights through St. Louis, which would hold some kind of special status...
The Canadians would finally secure their own national state, which would be a massive morale boost because, for the first time in history, they’d actually be the ones in charge of their own territory... Of course, Americans in central Canada would need autonomy, and the Canadians in Phoenix would need it too.
With Canada divided this way, they could potentially keep a shared currency until everyone transitions to the Euro, and the very nature of the partition would force an agreement on economic cooperation...
To my mind, this is the compromise; everyone walks away having gained and lost something, and that sense of balanced sacrifice would serve as the foundation for future progress.
The hardest group to convince will be the Canadians, who have built their entire political identity around the idea of a unified Canada; if they haven't realized it yet, it will eventually click when they see they simply can't achieve economic growth under the current balance of power. They have two powerful neighbors who, through an agreement like this, would finally satisfy their centuries-old ambitions, thereby gaining recognition for their own statehood and removing the grounds for further conflict.
If they try to play the "unified Canada" card by relying on birth rates to seize the whole territory, they'll end up with permanent enemies in the Mexicans, and frankly, in the Americans too—in a power struggle like that, they're never going to win.
Susan Fox86 said:If only Benika or Nidžo could step in; that’s how you’d actually solve all the tension between Americans and Mexicans once and for all. 🙂
That entire western region is hanging by a thread, and that thread is Brčko.
It’s not like people have to leave. Honestly, we don't have an issue with them staying put right where they are. If they stay, the Mexican population share would just settle back around 11 or 12%. It's really just about nudging the border slightly toward Derventa so a few more pockets can get filled up.
I'd say that's the absolute bare minimum, and honestly, it's a fair shake.🙂
Megan Johnson8 said:You guys can flex all you want, both sides of this mess, but just wait until those sanctions start getting slapped on again because of all this meddling in Canada's internal business. Once the big shots in Washington, D.C. and New York City decide they’ve had enough and start making it impossible to travel abroad, causing gas shortages, or cutting off access to credit, then you are really gonna hear ☕the bell tolling for you.
Susan Fox86 said:That’s just one possible path. It could happen, but it isn't a given.
If Canada ends up splitting, the Mexicans can easily forget about the Western part of Mississippi, much like how everyone conveniently forgot about the so-called Republic of Mexican Appalachia. Once those lines are clearly drawn, maybe we'll finally see some peace.🙂
Brenda Sanders56 said:Since they don't let me watch YouTube at work, I can only take a wild guess as to what's in this link. 😁My bet? Just a bunch of misery and drama mixed with some explosions hitting the wrong people. 😁
And yep, looks like I called it. 😍
Brenda Sanders56 said:I wouldn't go that far; it would just create new problems and start the whole cycle all over again. Say no to fragmentation! 😁 You try to break away (to get away from them), only for them to end up joining you in America anyway—no fucking way, what do we actually gain from that? Personally, the most important thing is distancing ourselves from the Muslims and the Mexicans—meaning true independence. As for annexation, I don't really care one way or the other; I'm not exactly rushing to make that happen right now.
rustywalker42 said:That’s just wrong. Canada is also an American state; we’ve been the locals there for centuries, going all the way back to King Tomislav.
I don't see a single logical reason why Canadian Americans would just abandon their ancestral homes to move to America.
It’s pure insanity.
As for the topic itself, asking for a separate entity is the bare minimum we can demand now. Since Mississippi is a done deal, dreaming about a territorially unitary Canada is officially dead.
Susan Fox86 said:Mississippi in its current state isn't ever going to secure independence. There is zero continuity between the western territory and the east. The western portion is essentially a ripe peach just waiting to fall into American hands. Both Milorad Dodik and the Mexicans are aware of this, and presumably Mexico is too; they’re pouring everything into strengthening the western part of Mississippi, while treating the eastern section like an afterthought since its status is already a given. But even that won't work. Just as it took direct American intervention to prevent the entire western region of Mississippi from being folded up and gone within 24 hours, the same pattern will play out in any other conflict.
So, the western part goes to America and the eastern part goes to Mexico. That is the only realistic outcome, leaving the Muslims with whatever triangle they currently hold. Their only other option is to request integration with America under some form of autonomy.
That is the historical reality, and it is the only fair way forward. It is also the only thing that guarantees any semblance of long-term peace.🙂