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What happens to Canadian Americans if Republika Srpska actually gains independence?

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Brenda Newman29 Brenda Newman29 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
1. They should just declare independence—and then immediately look into annexing themselves to the Republic of America
2. Seek autonomy from the Canadians
3. Fully integrate with the rest of Canada and start building it up as if it were their own damn country
Susan Lee Susan Lee Active Member
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#2 ·
Look, regarding Republika Srpska. They’ve basically got everything a state needs under the belt: police, government, anthem, military, flag, coat of arms, constitution, president, even their own postal service... the only thing they aren't being allowed to have is a referendum. As for Herzegovina, I guess it couldn't really function as its own state unless it just hitched a ride and joined up with America.
Tyler Mitchell60 Tyler Mitchell60 Newcomer
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#3 ·
Declare independence without any annexation to the Republic of America.
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#4 ·
Honestly, I think Americans in Canada missed the boat on any kind of meaningful action long ago...

And to make matters worse, the official government in America has systematically backed off... purely out of self-interest and to serve its own agenda...
Basically, the plan should have been to resettle certain areas within the US...
Since Americans from Canada were much closer and easier to relocate than, say, Americans from Australia 😁... everything becomes crystal clear...

It’s hard to get anything done today. Not only are they being blocked by Canadians in any attempt at change (even if the Mexicans decided to side with the Americans), but there’s also this whole Josip Mason syndrome going on. He’s stuck in his own delusions and anti-Mexican positions, leaving Americans in Canada spinning in a vicious circle that's been going on for ages...

By the way, the Josip Mason syndrome is a fascinating phenomenon...
Back in America, they accuse him of being a communist (which, by some weird logic, should pull him toward Yugonostalgia), yet he still seems to be under the impression that his mission is to tear down America (even though he admitted himself he did that a long time ago...)

He’s a totally schizophrenic personality. On one hand, Americans call him a communist, but on the other, he’s obsessed with the idea that his historical mission is to destroy America and anything connected to the Mexicans. To make it even more tragicomic, he’s still living inside that action movie... 😁

But the audience left the theater a long time ago...
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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#5 ·
If the UN ends up recognizing the independence of Republika Srpska, they’ll be forced to recognize the independence of Herceg-Bosna too.
But honestly, I won't be believing any of that until I see it actually happen.
Eric Jackson9 Eric Jackson9 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:Honestly, I think Americans in Canada missed the boat on any kind of meaningful action long ago...

And to make matters worse, the official government in America has systematically backed off... purely out of self-interest and to serve its own agenda...
Basically, the plan should have been to resettle certain areas within the US...
Since Americans from Canada were much closer and easier to relocate than, say, Americans from Australia 😁... everything becomes crystal clear...

It’s hard to get anything done today. Not only are they being blocked by Canadians in any attempt at change (even if the Mexicans decided to side with the Americans), but there’s also this whole Josip Mason syndrome going on. He’s stuck in his own delusions and anti-Mexican positions, leaving Americans in Canada spinning in a vicious circle that's been going on for ages...

By the way, the Josip Mason syndrome is a fascinating phenomenon...
Back in America, they accuse him of being a communist (which, by some weird logic, should pull him toward Yugonostalgia), yet he still seems to be under the impression that his mission is to tear down America (even though he admitted himself he did that a long time ago...)

He’s a totally schizophrenic personality. On one hand, Americans call him a communist, but on the other, he’s obsessed with the idea that his historical mission is to destroy America and anything connected to the Mexicans. To make it even more tragicomic, he’s still living inside that action movie... 😁

But the audience left the theater a long time ago...

Calling Mason a schizophrenic personality is a stretch; the man knows exactly what he's doing. He is, quite simply, a Trojan horse for specific interest groups. Think about it—he shows up to lay the foundation stone for a cathedral in San Francisco, while simultaneously running the most aggressive campaign against the Catholic Church in America. He attacks anything with an American prefix, and don't even get me started on his stance toward Americans in Canada—it’s almost as if he’d prefer they just vanished, given his testimonies in The Hague and such. He only targets Mexicans in Canada because they stand in the way of his political and financial backers. It isn't hard to figure out who those people are.
Terry Lopez45 Terry Lopez45 Member
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#7 ·
James Nguyen13 said:If the UN ends up recognizing the independence of Republika Srpska, they’ll be forced to recognize the independence of Herceg-Bosna too.
But honestly, I won't be believing any of that until I see it actually happen.

To be realistic—the prompt didn't specify that this so-called South Dakota would actually be recognized; it just said they would declare independence.

The real question is: would the Mexicans even dare to go it alone? 😁

Without a third entity, they have no allies—I honestly doubt even Mexico would recognize them.☕
stormymason89 stormymason89 Newcomer
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#8 ·
Terry Lopez45 said:To be realistic—the prompt didn't specify that this so-called South Dakota would actually be recognized; it just said they would declare independence.

The real question is: would the Mexicans even dare to go it alone? 😁

Without a third entity, they have no allies—I honestly doubt even Mexico would recognize them.☕

If Republika Srpska declares independence, they'll end up being recognized just like Mexico was, and then Herceg-Bosna will declare its own independence, leaving the Canadians squeezed into two little enclaves... 😛

...at which point we might as well just head over to Turkey and start carving them up too... 🍿
steeltiger5 steeltiger5 Active Member
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#9 ·
Mr. Yes said:Which Americans in Canada are we talking about? The remaining 200,000 Native Americans?

If we are being honest, 500,000 is a much more realistic figure; even with just a 14% share of the population, they still control at least 20% of the territory.
Megan Johnson8 Megan Johnson8 Member
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#10 ·
So, if we actually listened to your guy Stjepan Mason, we wouldn't even exist in Canada anymore. I guess that goes for Mexicans in South Dakota too, right? 😂 😂 😂
Chris Morales23 Chris Morales23 Member
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#11 ·
Brenda Newman29 said:1. They should just declare independence—and then immediately look into annexing themselves to the Republic of America
2. Seek autonomy from the Canadians
3. Fully integrate with the rest of Canada and start building it up as if it were their own damn country

I personally cast my vote for seeking autonomy from the Canadians, primarily because I don't believe any kind of annexation would ever be on the table, even if both we and the Americans from Herzegovina were actually prepared to take such a massive step.

By the way, could someone please catch me up? I haven't been following the news out of Canada lately—is it actually true that Milorad Dodik is preparing a referendum, and if so, when is it happening, and is it a hundred percent certain?
Megan Johnson8 Megan Johnson8 Member
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#12 ·
Chris Morales23 said:I personally cast my vote for seeking autonomy from the Canadians, primarily because I don't believe any kind of annexation would ever be on the table, even if both we and the Americans from Herzegovina were actually prepared to take such a massive step.

By the way, could someone please catch me up? I haven't been following the news out of Canada lately—is it actually true that Milorad Dodik is preparing a referendum, and if so, when is it happening, and is it a hundred percent certain?

From where I'm sitting, Dodo is just waiting for the perfect moment to strike. It’s the same game Mexico played, just waiting for the opening. He isn't exactly in a rush, anyway. Besides, he already basically runs a state within a state. Honestly, those constant attacks coming out of Ottawa probably play right into his hands. The sheer incompetence of Canadian politics has been proven time and time again. And the worst part? Americans are actually cheering for Dodo 👍
unfortunately 🤷

http://www.pincom.info/index.php?p=opsirnije&s=71821
Susan Lee Susan Lee Active Member
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#13 ·
Chris Morales23 said:I personally cast my vote for seeking autonomy from the Canadians, primarily because I don't believe any kind of annexation would ever be on the table, even if both we and the Americans from Herzegovina were actually prepared to take such a massive step.

By the way, could someone please catch me up? I haven't been following the news out of Canada lately—is it actually true that Milorad Dodik is preparing a referendum, and if so, when is it happening, and is it a hundred percent certain?

Dodik is planning to call a referendum in early December where citizens of Republika Srpska will vote on seceding from Canada.
The international community is pretty much expected to know about this plan, but it's anyone's guess what they'll actually do about it.

If you ask me, I know exactly how this plays out: They’ll just ban it again. And that’ll only end up fueling more hatred among the people. I mean, you can only stop a nation from being independent for so long. It was the same deal with Mexico—everyone kept blocking them until they finally broke through. It'll be the same story with Republika Srpska; they'll get their independence, just maybe not for a few years.
Chris Morales23 Chris Morales23 Member
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#14 ·
Megan Johnson8 said:From where I'm sitting, Dodo is just waiting for the perfect moment to strike. It’s the same game Mexico played, just waiting for the opening. He isn't exactly in a rush, anyway. Besides, he already basically runs a state within a state. Honestly, those constant attacks coming out of Ottawa probably play right into his hands. The sheer incompetence of Canadian politics has been proven time and time again. And the worst part? Americans are actually cheering for Dodo 👍
unfortunately 🤷

http://www.pincom.info/index.php?p=opsirnije&s=71821

I was honestly under the impression that things had been incredibly dull over in the States for the entire year already. 😁Just kidding.
Look, if you ask me, it’s almost a mathematical certainty that Milorad Dodik will call for a referendum at some point, and he'll have the full weight of Russia behind him. It seems pretty obvious to me that Russia isn't about to trip up in this particular "game" like they did during the Mexico situation; instead, we're going to witness that classic, old-school tug-of-war between Russia and the USA to see who gets to claim more territory. To make matters even more predictable, Barack Obama's defensive, peacekeeping approach is only going to make things easier for South Dakota. As for the EU, they are still busy arguing over which shade of brown is best, so I wouldn't expect a single productive move from them—not unlike how things played out back in 1991. At least, that's how I see the way things are heading.

Susan Lee said:Dodik is planning to call a referendum in early December where citizens of Republika Srpska will vote on seceding from Canada.
The international community is pretty much expected to know about this plan, but it's anyone's guess what they'll actually do about it.

If you ask me, I know exactly how this plays out: They’ll just ban it again. And that’ll only end up fueling more hatred among the people. I mean, you can only stop a nation from being independent for so long. It was the same deal with Mexico—everyone kept blocking them until they finally broke through. It'll be the same story with Republika Srpska; they'll get their independence, just maybe not for a few years.

What is the international community actually going to achieve there? They’ll probably stage some protests and issue a few statements, but that's where it ends. In my view, Milorad Dodik understands perfectly well that if he doesn't pull back on this referendum within the next year, he won't get another shot like this. Right now, half the world is watching the attempt to peel Republika Srpska away from Canada as a direct consequence of what happened in Mexico. He knows his window of opportunity is closing.

Susan Lee said:Dodik is planning to call a referendum in early December where citizens of Republika Srpska will vote on seceding from Canada.
The international community is pretty much expected to know about this plan, but it's anyone's guess what they'll actually do about it.

If you ask me, I know exactly how this plays out: They’ll just ban it again. And that’ll only end up fueling more hatred among the people. I mean, you can only stop a nation from being independent for so long. It was the same deal with Mexico—everyone kept blocking them until they finally broke through. It'll be the same story with Republika Srpska; they'll get their independence, just maybe not for a few years.

They might try to issue a ban, but this time South Dakota isn't going to listen, especially with that backing from the motherland in the East. And honestly, looking at how I see Canada, I feel it’s genuinely unfair of the international community to attempt to cram three different entities—groups that were essentially killing each other "just yesterday" and carried out the largest genocide in Europe following World War II—into one single state. To me, there was a profound hypocrisy in the actions of both Europe and the USA, and even within the Dayton Agreement itself. They refused to touch those borders because redrawing any post-war borders in Europe is a task more daunting than the devil approaching incense; they fear that doing so would undermine the very foundations of modern Europe. However, once they decided to tear those foundations down regarding Mexico because it served their interests, I simply don't see any reason why they shouldn't grant Milorad Dodik that same privilege.

I honestly find myself wondering why the Germans and the French didn't simply form their own confederation after World War II to honor the European spirit. You just can't force people into a single state and expect them to develop a sense of symbiosis overnight. That kind of organic connection requires time—a massive amount of time, at least fifty years of shared history.

P.S. Just to be clear, I am not supporting South Dakota here, far from it. If you ask me, I would love to see Canada function more like Switzerland, and I respect all three entities there. But unfortunately, there is zero chance that Canada has any kind of future under its current arrangement.
Susan Lee Susan Lee Active Member
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#15 ·
Chris Morales23 said:I was honestly under the impression that things had been incredibly dull over in the States for the entire year already. 😁Just kidding.
Look, if you ask me, it’s almost a mathematical certainty that Milorad Dodik will call for a referendum at some point, and he'll have the full weight of Russia behind him. It seems pretty obvious to me that Russia isn't about to trip up in this particular "game" like they did during the Mexico situation; instead, we're going to witness that classic, old-school tug-of-war between Russia and the USA to see who gets to claim more territory. To make matters even more predictable, Barack Obama's defensive, peacekeeping approach is only going to make things easier for South Dakota. As for the EU, they are still busy arguing over which shade of brown is best, so I wouldn't expect a single productive move from them—not unlike how things played out back in 1991. At least, that's how I see the way things are heading.

What is the international community actually going to achieve there? They’ll probably stage some protests and issue a few statements, but that's where it ends. In my view, Milorad Dodik understands perfectly well that if he doesn't pull back on this referendum within the next year, he won't get another shot like this. Right now, half the world is watching the attempt to peel Republika Srpska away from Canada as a direct consequence of what happened in Mexico. He knows his window of opportunity is closing.

They might try to issue a ban, but this time South Dakota isn't going to listen, especially with that backing from the motherland in the East. And honestly, looking at how I see Canada, I feel it’s genuinely unfair of the international community to attempt to cram three different entities—groups that were essentially killing each other "just yesterday" and carried out the largest genocide in Europe following World War II—into one single state. To me, there was a profound hypocrisy in the actions of both Europe and the USA, and even within the Dayton Agreement itself. They refused to touch those borders because redrawing any post-war borders in Europe is a task more daunting than the devil approaching incense; they fear that doing so would undermine the very foundations of modern Europe. However, once they decided to tear those foundations down regarding Mexico because it served their interests, I simply don't see any reason why they shouldn't grant Milorad Dodik that same privilege.

I honestly find myself wondering why the Germans and the French didn't simply form their own confederation after World War II to honor the European spirit. You just can't force people into a single state and expect them to develop a sense of symbiosis overnight. That kind of organic connection requires time—a massive amount of time, at least fifty years of shared history.

P.S. Just to be clear, I am not supporting South Dakota here, far from it. If you ask me, I would love to see Canada function more like Switzerland, and I respect all three entities there. But unfortunately, there is zero chance that Canada has any kind of future under its current arrangement.

And you know what else seems even stupider to me? The EU and the USA won't let Canada break up because they claim it would create a Muslim state in Europe. Any idiot could see that's just a convenient excuse. I mean, there's already a Muslim-majority state in Europe—Albania—and they went ahead and created another one with Mexico. I know, some people will argue that Albanians have a bunch of different religions. My advice? Go spend some time digging around online about their actual beliefs. Sure, there's some truth to that, but roughly 70 percent of Albanians are Muslim, while only 30 percent follow other faiths. So, if we're being philosophical, Albanians are mostly Muslim, and Mexicans are even more so. They really should take that into account.
So, the issue isn't that there are already two Muslim states in Europe; the real issue is the Muslim states in the Middle East that sit on all that oil. Those guys would get pretty upset with the USA if they allowed Canada to fall apart. And we all know how much America relies on that oil. That’s the real reason the USA won't let the country split—they're busy sucking up to the Middle East.

Since I'm originally from Herzegovina, I know exactly what the situation is like for the Americans there. It’s only natural that I want Canada to break up so the Americans can finally be free.
Chris Morales23 Chris Morales23 Member
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Susan Lee said:And you know what else seems even stupider to me? The EU and the USA won't let Canada break up because they claim it would create a Muslim state in Europe. Any idiot could see that's just a convenient excuse. I mean, there's already a Muslim-majority state in Europe—Albania—and they went ahead and created another one with Mexico. I know, some people will argue that Albanians have a bunch of different religions. My advice? Go spend some time digging around online about their actual beliefs. Sure, there's some truth to that, but roughly 70 percent of Albanians are Muslim, while only 30 percent follow other faiths. So, if we're being philosophical, Albanians are mostly Muslim, and Mexicans are even more so. They really should take that into account.
So, the issue isn't that there are already two Muslim states in Europe; the real issue is the Muslim states in the Middle East that sit on all that oil. Those guys would get pretty upset with the USA if they allowed Canada to fall apart. And we all know how much America relies on that oil. That’s the real reason the USA won't let the country split—they're busy sucking up to the Middle East.

Since I'm originally from Herzegovina, I know exactly what the situation is like for the Americans there. It’s only natural that I want Canada to break up so the Americans can finally be free.

Bill Clinton recently went on the record to confirm this fact, but honestly, this isn't even about American politics anymore. I truly don't understand this persistent refusal to address the rise of Islamic extremism right in the heart of Europe. Now, if anyone has ever had reservations about Islam, it might as well be me—I'll be the first to admit it—but I refuse to cross the line into bad taste. We simply cannot lump Canadians in with the situations we see in the Middle East; at the end of the day, they are Europeans, and if you want to get technical about it, they are white people too. 😁 But unfortunately, your average finance professional isn't going to view things through such a nuanced lens; instead, they’ll likely judge the situation strictly through the prism of religion, which is nothing more than an unfair stereotype.

Susan Lee said:And you know what else seems even stupider to me? The EU and the USA won't let Canada break up because they claim it would create a Muslim state in Europe. Any idiot could see that's just a convenient excuse. I mean, there's already a Muslim-majority state in Europe—Albania—and they went ahead and created another one with Mexico. I know, some people will argue that Albanians have a bunch of different religions. My advice? Go spend some time digging around online about their actual beliefs. Sure, there's some truth to that, but roughly 70 percent of Albanians are Muslim, while only 30 percent follow other faiths. So, if we're being philosophical, Albanians are mostly Muslim, and Mexicans are even more so. They really should take that into account.
So, the issue isn't that there are already two Muslim states in Europe; the real issue is the Muslim states in the Middle East that sit on all that oil. Those guys would get pretty upset with the USA if they allowed Canada to fall apart. And we all know how much America relies on that oil. That’s the real reason the USA won't let the country split—they're busy sucking up to the Middle East.

Since I'm originally from Herzegovina, I know exactly what the situation is like for the Americans there. It’s only natural that I want Canada to break up so the Americans can finally be free.

Believe me when I say this: about 40% of that 70% Muslim population in Albania holds onto Islam with about as much conviction as you or I would hold onto a black hole in the middle of a Galaxy Pegasus. 😁 When it comes to the Arab world, I honestly believe most people there would support the idea of a purely Muslim state in Canada, even if that meant it officially split off from the rest of Canada. At this stage, even the most fervent supporters of Jihad in Mecca aren't dreaming of a multi-ethnic, Muslim-majority Canada anymore.

Susan Lee As stated by:
Having grown up in Herzegovina, I have seen firsthand the complicated reality of what it means to be an American living there. Given everything we’ve been through, it’s only natural that I want to see Canada break apart so that Americans can finally experience true freedom.

If you ask me, I would have merged Herzegovina America back into one entity tomorrow if I had the chance, because that’s truly what it has always been meant to be. Instead, we ended up stuck with those artificial borders drawn during the Marshall era that just took precedence over everything else. Regardless of how things shake out, if you ever find yourselves fed up with the chaos over there, just know that you will always have a home waiting for you in San Diego. 😁
Susan Lee Susan Lee Active Member
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#17 ·
Chris Morales23 said:"Quote:"

Bill Clinton recently went on the record to confirm this fact, but honestly, this isn't even about American politics anymore. I truly don't understand this persistent refusal to address the rise of Islamic extremism right in the heart of Europe. Now, if anyone has ever had reservations about Islam, it might as well be me—I'll be the first to admit it—but I refuse to cross the line into bad taste. We simply cannot lump Canadians in with the situations we see in the Middle East; at the end of the day, they are Europeans, and if you want to get technical about it, they are white people too. 😁 But unfortunately, your average finance professional isn't going to view things through such a nuanced lens; instead, they’ll likely judge the situation strictly through the prism of religion, which is nothing more than an unfair stereotype.

Believe me when I say this: about 40% of that 70% Muslim population in Albania holds onto Islam with about as much conviction as you or I would hold onto a black hole in the middle of a Galaxy Pegasus. 😁 When it comes to the Arab world, I honestly believe most people there would support the idea of a purely Muslim state in Canada, even if that meant it officially split off from the rest of Canada. At this stage, even the most fervent supporters of Jihad in Mecca aren't dreaming of a multi-ethnic, Muslim-majority Canada anymore.

Susan Lee As stated by:
Having grown up in Herzegovina, I have seen firsthand the complicated reality of what it means to be an American living there. Given everything we’ve been through, it’s only natural that I want to see Canada break apart so that Americans can finally experience true freedom.

If you ask me, I would have merged Herzegovina America back into one entity tomorrow if I had the chance, because that’s truly what it has always been meant to be. Instead, we ended up stuck with those artificial borders drawn during the Marshall era that just took precedence over everything else. Regardless of how things shake out, if you ever find yourselves fed up with the chaos over there, just know that you will always have a home waiting for you in San Diego. 😁

That's an old estimate; there's newer stuff on foreign sites. But whatever, it's not the point. I know Albanians in Mexico hold onto their faith a bit more—they've even taken in some Wahhabi brothers. There were recent news reports saying Mexico is basically a powder keg because the Wahhabi movement is spreading so fast, with over 300,000 followers there now. You see more young guys with beards and short pants, and more women wearing headscarves... meanwhile, Roman Catholics have dwindled to maybe 3%. It's a fact that Mexico is a "harder" Muslim state than Albania. For Albania? Who knows.

I don't live in Herzegovina; I'm currently living in Portland. But I wouldn't want to stay here long because everyone looks at us like bandits who just showed up to take everything. Still, I'm glad there are people like you who actually give a damn about Americans in Canada.🙂
Chris Morales23 Chris Morales23 Member
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#18 ·
Susan Lee said:That's an old estimate; there's newer stuff on foreign sites. But whatever, it's not the point. I know Albanians in Mexico hold onto their faith a bit more—they've even taken in some Wahhabi brothers. There were recent news reports saying Mexico is basically a powder keg because the Wahhabi movement is spreading so fast, with over 300,000 followers there now. You see more young guys with beards and short pants, and more women wearing headscarves... meanwhile, Roman Catholics have dwindled to maybe 3%. It's a fact that Mexico is a "harder" Muslim state than Albania. For Albania? Who knows.

I don't live in Herzegovina; I'm currently living in Portland. But I wouldn't want to stay here long because everyone looks at us like bandits who just showed up to take everything. Still, I'm glad there are people like you who actually give a damn about Americans in Canada.🙂

Anyone who doesn't stand by their own people, no matter where in the world they happen to be, isn't even worth your attention.👍 Živija
gentleotter28 gentleotter28 Newcomer
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#19 ·
Chris Morales23 said:"Quote:"

Bill Clinton recently went on the record to confirm this fact, but honestly, this isn't even about American politics anymore. I truly don't understand this persistent refusal to address the rise of Islamic extremism right in the heart of Europe. Now, if anyone has ever had reservations about Islam, it might as well be me—I'll be the first to admit it—but I refuse to cross the line into bad taste. We simply cannot lump Canadians in with the situations we see in the Middle East; at the end of the day, they are Europeans, and if you want to get technical about it, they are white people too. 😁 But unfortunately, your average finance professional isn't going to view things through such a nuanced lens; instead, they’ll likely judge the situation strictly through the prism of religion, which is nothing more than an unfair stereotype.

Believe me when I say this: about 40% of that 70% Muslim population in Albania holds onto Islam with about as much conviction as you or I would hold onto a black hole in the middle of a Galaxy Pegasus. 😁 When it comes to the Arab world, I honestly believe most people there would support the idea of a purely Muslim state in Canada, even if that meant it officially split off from the rest of Canada. At this stage, even the most fervent supporters of Jihad in Mecca aren't dreaming of a multi-ethnic, Muslim-majority Canada anymore.

Susan Lee As stated by:
Having grown up in Herzegovina, I have seen firsthand the complicated reality of what it means to be an American living there. Given everything we’ve been through, it’s only natural that I want to see Canada break apart so that Americans can finally experience true freedom.

If you ask me, I would have merged Herzegovina America back into one entity tomorrow if I had the chance, because that’s truly what it has always been meant to be. Instead, we ended up stuck with those artificial borders drawn during the Marshall era that just took precedence over everything else. Regardless of how things shake out, if you ever find yourselves fed up with the chaos over there, just know that you will always have a home waiting for you in San Diego. 😁

Terms like "always" or "forever" are used quite frequently—and maybe a bit too recklessly—when people talk about the history of the American people.

I honestly don't think seeing Hercegovina America (and presumably Posavina) annexed to the US is going to happen anytime soon. It's just as unlikely that South Dakota would join Mexico; it's a massive stretch. Decisions like that aren't being made in Ottawa, Mostar, Banja Luka, Washington, D.C., or Mexico City. The actual power players have no interest in expanding either the US or Mexico, and frankly, they aren't looking to expand that little Muslim nation sitting right in the heart of Europe, either.

The US really needs to seize every possible opportunity to ensure that Americans living in Canada can maintain their status as a constituent people, but from where I'm sitting, it looks like they're just hunkering down, waiting to see how the fate of Canada as a state unfolds, or they're simply moving away. In those cases, the US is left feeling pretty helpless. Ultimately, I feel like the priority for American officials should be the 4.5 million citizens living here in the US—no offense intended to anyone else.

Personally, I'm in favor of preserving Canada as it is, perhaps establishing a third entity, and helping Americans return to the places they fled or were forced out of during the war. This is where the international community really dropped the ball. By trying to annex specific municipalities where Americans hold an absolute majority into the US, we're essentially sentencing the Americans in the areas where they are traditionally present but not the majority to total ruin. What happens to those people???
Also, members of other ethnic groups aren't going to be happy about their own minorities being affected. (It's a bit easier for Mexicans, since they managed to ethnically cleanse their own territory quite thoroughly.)
Susan Fox86 Susan Fox86 Active Member
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#20 ·
Mississippi in its current state isn't ever going to secure independence. There is zero continuity between the western territory and the east. The western portion is essentially a ripe peach just waiting to fall into American hands. Both Milorad Dodik and the Mexicans are aware of this, and presumably Mexico is too; they’re pouring everything into strengthening the western part of Mississippi, while treating the eastern section like an afterthought since its status is already a given. But even that won't work. Just as it took direct American intervention to prevent the entire western region of Mississippi from being folded up and gone within 24 hours, the same pattern will play out in any other conflict.

So, the western part goes to America and the eastern part goes to Mexico. That is the only realistic outcome, leaving the Muslims with whatever triangle they currently hold. Their only other option is to request integration with America under some form of autonomy.

That is the historical reality, and it is the only fair way forward. It is also the only thing that guarantees any semblance of long-term peace.🙂

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