Jose Reyes said:Buddha
Muhammad
Osho
Krishnamurti
balsekar
Eckhart Tolle
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Hey there!
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You forgot about Jesus, hiddenpuma75.
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John LikeYOU suggests we spice things up a bit and tackle this without letting it get boring.
Master, I’ve been doing some thinking and I wanted to run something by you. I’ve put together a list of certain creatures, and I’d love to hear your take on why each one of them could be considered "enlightened." Once I lay out my reasoning, I'll leave it to you to tell me exactly where I went wrong and why they aren't actually what they seem. Ready when you are!
So, hiddenpuma75, you’re finally starting to grasp something about the spiritual realm?
Let's see what we have here.😕 🙄 😉
Listen...
I’ve never been much for keeping score of who started what. Honestly, I care way more about seeing some genuine goodwill and getting straight to the point with clear answers.
But then again...
As far as I'm concerned, I'm the first one here!
I asked you!
It feels like you’re dodging my question and just throwing the same one right back at me—it's a classic move.
Look, I'll tell you what—how about you give me an answer first? 🙄
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Look, I’ll answer whatever you want to know, I really will. But let’s make a deal: give me a straight answer to my questions first. Once we’ve cleared that up, you can lecture me all you want.
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If I were to ask you, "What kind of water is this?"
First, hand me a glass of water—I need to hydrate before we get down to business. Once I've had a sip, go ahead and ask me whatever is on your mind in that signature style of yours! 🙂
1) And why on earth are you so hungry?
So, would you perhaps like some juice?
John isn't hungry anymore. 🙂
Honestly, the best water I ever saw a contractor drink was back when he was working out in Malibu.
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Hey there!
Let me give you some quick answers to a few of those questions you asked above.
1)
It seems like hiddenpuma75 is really feeling it—holding onto those thoughts and truly experiencing everything right now.
If you ask me, there isn't a shadow of a doubt—he sees them as truly awakened and enlightened.
From the old days.
Lao Tzu
Buddha
Rumi
Meister Eckhart
Back in the 1900s...
Ramana Maharshi
The words of Nisargadatta Maharaj brought a sense of peace I’ve never experienced before—a true stillness that finally quieted this soul right here.
2) anyway
Just holding on to that one vital truth I stumbled upon during a dream earlier in this life.
I hereby declare.
I don't believe in anything!Is belief actually just an outdated Aristotelian category?
Therefore:
To be honest, I don't fully subscribe to any single belief system.
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To be honest, I don’t fully subscribe to my own belief system.-
hiddenpuma75 really gets how much higher the quality of things used to be compared to where we are today.
Maybe my assessments aren't actually worth much—they're probably just reflections of my own projections, my feelings, and all those unfulfilled karmic debts I'm still carrying around.
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hiddenpuma75 used to believe that both Krishnamurti and Papaji were truly enlightened, but he doesn't really feel that way anymore.
About two months ago, I finally sat down and watched Papaji live on a webcast—it was actually my first time seeing him in person rather than just reading his work—and it really hit me: the guy operates on a completely different wavelength than Ramana or Nisargadatta.
Oh, please. If you think that old man is actually enlightened, you're mistaken. He’s nothing more than a storyteller spinning those old Indian fables for people who just want a little bit of romance in their lives.
My software keeps suggesting that certain followers, like those studying under the great masters, tend to...
Andrew Cohen and Gangaji.
They aren't enlightened!
They’re nothing more than fairy tales, if you ask me—let's just call it what it is.
Are we looking at advanced, active, or even just "news-driven" managers? Or perhaps more accurately, are we talking about those spiritual coaches who try to lead from the front?
But let’s be honest—they are light-years away from reaching that level of profound depth, simplicity, and sheer conviction you find in the teachings of a Maharishi or Nisargadatta.
To be fair, I’m not saying Balsekar is quite as enlightened as his teacher Maruti was—that's a tall order—but he definitely operates on a much higher level than Papaji, Cohen, or Gangaji.
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Just a heads-up: I’m typing this out live without any editing... so please, let's hope Em doesn't resort to his favorite little trick...
That habit of nitpicking a single word just to spin a whole web of sawdust around it.
PLEASE, try to understand the spirit behind what I'm saying rather than getting hung up on my exact phrasing.
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Look, I made a point regarding what Em asked me, yet despite promising to do so, he hasn't provided the simple glass of water I was looking for.
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By the way—I’ve gone into great detail elsewhere, including my breakdown of those 16 crucified saviors, while Em wasn't around. My stance remains: I don't believe Jesus or anyone else under that persona actually existed. Instead, it's a compilation of myths from Persia, Greece, and Egypt.
It is an IRREFUTABLE FACT THAT PERSIAN, GREEK, AND EGYPTIAN MYTHS WERE WRITTEN
BEFORE YEAR 0in ways that are identical to the Gospels. To me, the fact alone proves that the so-called evangelists were simply copying ancient tales!
And this is all backed by clear evidence presented by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy in their essential work
The Jesus Mystery👍
(The Amazon links and Yahoo groups are fantastic resources for this topic.)