Sandra Johnson58 said:But what about someone with a chronic illness who needs machines to live, like people on dialysis?☕
So this person gets hit by bad luck or a recession after, I don't know, working in the private sector for 20 years, and honestly, who's gonna hire them during a crisis? Plus, someone whose kidneys aren't working isn't exactly able to just jump into any random job—damn it, dialysis is exhausting and comes with so many side effects.
I think I know how it feels to be on dialysis because when I was a kid, I had an accident and ended up on it a few times. It's not a great experience at all, especially when they shove a catheter into your neck.☕
So what are you supposed to tell someone who's been laid off? Just like, "Hey, go be a construction worker" or "Just die without insurance"?☕
Look, I wasn't talking about people who are actually sick. It’s totally obvious you can't offer certain jobs to someone in that condition, and honestly, the real question is whether they can even find *any* work at all. What I meant was the healthy crowd—the ones turning down every single opening because it doesn't massage their ego enough. How many of them have degrees? Honestly, you can't count them. Even old folks will tell you, "Oh, my son/daughter went to a top university," but let's be real, with that specific degree, you aren't finding a job in America for the next 500 years because nobody needs what they learned, yet they still refuse to take up a regular blue-collar gig. Or you've got the former white-collar types who just can't stomach being laborers. Or the "handymen" working under the table, refusing to register and turning down legitimate work. I know the whole lot of them; I see them wandering around, sipping their lattes, acting like they're too good for the real world.
wearyrider26 said:Well, I guess it just comes down to constitutional law. Like, the right to access primary healthcare shouldn't really depend on whether you're employed or not. I mean, sure, maybe some other specific benefits might be tied to your job status, but basic medical care? That should be separate. It’s just how the system is supposed to work here in the US, I suppose.
Well, I mean, that's how it looks on paper, I guess... but in actual practice? Not really. Maybe it works that way in theory, but you know how things actually go out in the real world. It's just different. ☕
I guess it’s pretty obvious what kind of "free" treatment we're actually talking about here. It’s that specific type of care that even the wealthiest person in America probably couldn't afford to pay for out-of-pocket if they went private... you know, everything from specialized surgeons to oncologists. Maybe that's just how it goes, I suppose.
I guess cosmetic procedures and stuff like that fall under voluntary insurance, so they’re usually handled through private agreements. Maybe? It just seems like that's how it works over here in the States.
I guess we shouldn't really get into the whole topic of unemployment. It feels a bit out of place here in the States, where there's such a massive gap between what jobs are available and who's looking for them. Maybe it's just not the right time to dive into that, I suppose.
I guess we shouldn't really mix up our terms or assume that being unemployed automatically means someone isn't working, you know? There’s this other kind of inefficiency that actually costs the government a massive amount of money, and I don't mean the benefits paid out to people looking for jobs. It’s more about certain specific salaries and pensions. It feels like those are basically used to buy votes during election season, maybe. And when you look at those high salaries and pensions, it's really what ends up driving up the US national debt. Just my two cents, I suppose.
I mean, I guess I'll go ahead and agree that working under the table is bad for everyone... but honestly, it just feels like proof that the administrative inspectors—the ones who are actually supposed to be enforcing the laws (and getting paid to do it, obviously!)—just aren't doing their jobs. Maybe they are? I don't know, it just seems that way to me.
What I'm talking about are the people at the Department of Labor and how they go about looking for work. When an offer is put on the table, they reject everything. Sure, there's a mismatch in the market, that's true, but there are still people offering jobs, people accepting them, and then there are the ones rejecting them. Those are the ones I'm interested in, and frankly, I'm against them. They're the grateful voters because they get perks just by sitting around at the agency. If someone is at the Department of Labor and absolutely no one is offering them anything, fine, let them stay there—they probably have nowhere else to go with all those benefits and rights they're clinging to.