gentlerider7 said:I don't even think job rotation is some kind of necessity—that was some other group's idea anyway—but if we're talking about doing things by choice, then yeah, that's entirely up to the individual. There's that famous quote from Marx:
"In a communist society, where no one has a single exclusive sphere of activity, but every one can carry out any activity he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus still permits me to do one thing in the morning, another in the afternoon, and a third in the evening; to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, and tend cattle in the evening; to criticize after dinner, precisely what I please, without ever becoming a hunter, a fisherman, a herdsman, or a critic."
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. If you want a communist utopia to actually work, people need some serious spiritual growth. You need individuals to step up their game. It’s about making choices voluntarily because they actually care about the end goal: the common good of the community. Without that internal shift, the whole idea just falls apart.
When the community wins, I win. It’s that simple. Everything is connected. If things are looking up for everyone else, I’m doing just fine too.If people actually did their jobs, things would be different. It’s pretty simple. You wouldn't have all that resentment or frustration floating around. People wouldn't feel like they're being cheated, so they wouldn't spend all their energy trying to undermine the system. All those attempts at cutting corners, bribery, or just straight-up rebellion? They'd vanish. You'd just be left with a few bad apples instead of a massive headache.
Then you have the other side of the coin: how society actually organizes itself to make sure things run smoothly. We’re talking about the heavy lifting—the economic and logistical hurdles. Most people think we can just fix these issues with better tech, or even that our current tools are already advanced enough if we just use them more intelligently. But critics of centralized planning have always pointed out that it doesn't work like that. History from the 20th century pretty much proves it. It's a lot messier than people want to admit.
There are really two ways to look at this. One view is that we just need to wait. You just sit tight and let human progress unfold naturally. If these advancements are an inevitable byproduct of our spiritual evolution, then they’ll happen sooner or later—assuming we don't wreck the planet or spiral back into total chaos first. The other way is the "right here, right now" approach. That's where you get a revolution and a period of dictatorship by the proletariat. You'd have a transitional socialist phase meant to guide people until they actually develop the necessary mindset. The government would step in using schools, legal systems, and other institutions to oversee this growth, hopefully doing so in a benevolent way. Eventually, once technological and spiritual progress hits a certain point, you'd phase out the dictatorship and even the state itself. It becomes unnecessary. That would be the final step in reaching the communist utopia.
When Lenin spoke up about how we won't see socialism for at least 500 years unless everyone's intellectual development catches up, there really wasn't much room for debate. He hit the nail on the head. It was pretty clear where things stood.
