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Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
rustywalker82 said:
Gold and silver really ought to show their true colors over the next decade or so,which seems to be exactly what you were hinting at earlier...

😕

Anything is possible... but could it actually drop down to its 100-year average?

The real question is which dollars or euros you're using to measure inflation...😉
It would be great news if we hit that 100-year average, but again, I have to ask: what are we measuring against? If that happened, it would essentially mean a recovery...😁
As for me, since I split my holdings roughly half metals and half cash, there isn't much room to lose. Theoretically, a crash is possible, but unlikely. Personally, I can't imagine such a massive drop. Gold is primarily an insurance policy...
One more thing—I don't possess a crystal ball to see through these complex layers, but from where I'm sitting, I see things clearly enough...
There is a much higher probability that gold and silver will buy more in ten years than they do today.
On the other hand, I wouldn't underestimate fiat currencies over the short term or even up to five years... though forecasting paper money is a far more difficult task...
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Andrew Barrett4 said:But how could the outlook change when it's already been cornered by ammunition and a mountain of accumulated debt?

The last time I picked up a decent amount was quite a while ago, back in the fall. There's no need for panic. I'm not selling anything. Unfortunately, I'm not buying anything this time around either (yet). I just don't have the liquidity to support it right now :/.

That argument holds weight primarily when you're talking about the Dollar. In my view, there's a real shot at hyperinflation there. Though even that's a toss-up. As for the Euro... it's a fog. For years I've written that hyperinflation for the Euro is less likely. I still hold that view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkrrZ5zl30k

Gold and silver should probably make their move in about ten years. It seems like you were leaning toward that conclusion too...😉
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Andrew Barrett4 said:It’s all gone. It’s like they thought they were pulling golden meteors out of the sky or something. 😂 😢

I’m with Sinclair on this one. This takedown—which might still be playing out—serves a purpose. We could see a massive rally once enough panicked investors have been shaken out. It's happened before. Personally, my long-term outlook hasn't shifted an inch.
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dustyheron5 said:That’s the current reality—but my point was that this can shift... and it could happen exactly how he described... starting slowly before accelerating rapidly... honestly, I suspect that process has already begun. 😉

Let’s draw a parallel with the Euro... You really think Germans are that stupid?😉

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o6CXOTTGkU
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
A solid breakdown on why gold isn't headed for a bear market anytime soon...

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldne...ate_Price.html

The Bull market in bonds "will never run out of breath"
A bear market in bonds is inevitable...
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
It seems you all have a solid grasp of the terminology. Look, there are a few technicalities where I disagree, but they’re minor details, so I won't bother nitpicking them here. I'm always open to a conversation, so if our paths happen to cross...
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Sean Carter said:Unfortunately, my colleague is mistaken; it’s not that it won't go down, it absolutely will. As we saw yesterday, we’re circling the drain. Maybe you finally understand why I'm so pessimistic, or perhaps you need more "proof"? For days the price has been creeping up just to plummet vertically! There is one fundamental difference between us. First and foremost, I invest so that I can make a profit, and if I'm not making money, I at least want to protect what I put in. That's why I see a massive red flag when I'm bleeding 10% in Euros and even more in USD. This is a huge issue for me because I didn't find this cash lying on a sidewalk; I worked my tail off for it. Please, in the future, don't try to tell people whether 10% is a lot or a little of their own money. Anyone with enough sense to be investing today already knows if 10% hits them hard or not.

That's all from me. Wishing everyone a good day and hoping for some green on the charts, though I have my doubts!


I think there’s a misunderstanding here. I never claimed there wouldn't be volatility or harsh corrections on this difficult path. However, the critical factors are the entry and exit points. It's not about the fluctuations in between. And no, my goal isn't just capital preservation; I want to profit too. But protection comes first. In my estimation, making a real profit will take ten years. I've always maintained that.
Is 10% an issue for you? Fine. I simply pointed out that much worse scenarios exist. If 10% is too much to handle, sell so you don't lose more.
If you believe I am somehow responsible for your situation, reach out to me. We can set a date and a calculation method, keeping in mind that I always stated we would have to wait over five years. From what I gather, you don't actually make investment decisions regarding precious metals based on internet forums. So, I don't see why expressing an opinion is problematic;we live in a democracy, after all, and everyone makes their own choices.Furthermore, I have always argued that gold and silver should be bought when prices are high, which isn't the case right now compared to what they could be. And regardless of anyone's feelings, in my view, the price will eventually have to go up. Personally, I won't back down; I'll ride through the "pain" of these corrections. I certainly won't stop sharing my perspective. Honestly, your "problem" seems minor when you consider the fates of people in Africa, Asia, and elsewhere who work just as hard, if not harder, for almost nothing. You might want to reflect on that, as it dictates how you view your situation. Besides, you can sell whenever you like and walk away. You aren't starving, and from what I can tell, you're doing just fine. It's as if the money owns you. That's wrong;you should be the one in control of the money.😉
Personally, I couldn't care less what happens to gold over the next two years. I'm looking at the bigger picture.
Meanwhile, some people are "counting" their wealth while leaning against the windows of a cathedral on their deathbeds...
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Dennis Myers6 said:Look, if you rip something in half—could be a t-shirt or even your car—and then try to patch it back together as best you can, it just isn't the same anymore, right? If you take a paper version of Tomislav, tape him back together, and walk into a bank... well, you just end up with a new paper version of Starčević... so, I guess the paper itself didn't actually lose any value.
Poverty is Paper
🙂

Fiat isn't always worthless; look at the Deutsche Mark. You’re measuring everything within one inertial frame, but that isn't always the case. You're making the same mistake paper-lovers make when they underestimate gold and silver because they think it's useless. At the end of the day, gold and silver can be melted down or invested; that's not the issue here. What actually matters is what you do with that money, whether it's paper or bullion. Are you living off the backs of others, essentially leeching until you die—the clearest example being money printing—or are you saving and spending your own money wisely? In that case, gold and silver are favorable. Of course, those who just want to spend other people's money—again, I'm emphasizing corruption and printing as the direct consequence—don't criticize much until it affects their own interests.
Personally, I'm fine with the scenario of smoothing over those interests with a feather duster. That would be the real master plan...

In case I forgot something, I'll add this: today I witnessed an "extra-dimensional facial spasm" from my grandfather Charles.
It was hilarious. One Starčević in the pocket.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
quiettrucker12 said:Things look quiet, but don't let that fool you; it's wild out there. It looks static because we've hit the corner of the triangle. There's nowhere left to squeeze. A breakout is coming soon—likely tomorrow after the Federal Reserve speaks—and we'll see which way it swings. Common sense points upward. Honestly, it's hard to guess exactly which Fed move will be read as bullish for gold and which won't. The EUR/USD looks like it's heading up toward at least 1.38, suggesting the USD might keep sliding, though a weaker Dollar doesn't always mean gold goes up. Either way, we'll know very shortly, unless we get hit by a fakeout before the real deal happens.

But God forbid we break past 1800 USD and trigger that massive wave you're waiting for. I'd rather wait, even if it takes forever, because a correction would be absolutely brutal. We need a fundamental shift—gold needs to enter a completely new regime—and that hasn't happened yet.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
It’s about time we broke through the 1700 USD mark. At this point, we're just spinning our wheels. It isn't going lower, but it’s certainly not climbing either. If we actually want to make a run toward 1800 USD, we need some real momentum—moves of at least 15 USD or more.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Jim Sinclair:
"Some gold genius out there who clearly doesn't know what they're talking about
must be calling for an immediate crash in the bond market."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&...kpD4WOPlYOWhMQ

Personally, I suspect this will drag on for years, regardless of how overextended the bond market looks. We aren't just dealing with experts here; we're dealing with actual magicians—masters of deception. Let gold stay right where it is for now... there are certain advantages to that.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Sean Carter said:I was speaking from personal experience. First off, I respect everyone on this board because people here give it their all trying to map out price movements for precious metals. But despite all that effort, passion, and expertise, people get burned constantly—not because they lack knowledge, but because you simply can't fight market manipulation. It should be obvious to everyone who holds the cards in the American stock market. Let me put this in perspective from where I sit. Back in 2011, I bought a physical ounce of gold for €1,375, which was roughly $1,850 at the time. Today, an ounce is sitting at €1,261 ($1,667.60). Do I really need to go on? My takeaway after a year and a half is that I probably shouldn't have bought. Meanwhile, the paper traders can jump in and out of positions instantly, waiting for the perfect entry, while I'm just sitting here under my mattress, happy to have the physical metal but feeling the sting of the loss. Having the physical stuff helped me sleep at night, I'll give it that🙂. But what am I supposed to do with physical bullion? Sell it just to break even on my market losses plus the bank's spread? Everything I've said is based on what happened and what is coming ??????????????????????? only time will tell...........

Oh, so you're down 10%. You think that's a crisis?
Imagine if you were down 50% or more.
There's no arguing that you bought near an intermediate peak. If you don't trust your investment, it's better to exit than to suffer through it. It seems to me you need to sit down and figure out why you're even in precious metals. My goal is primarily insurance; making a profit is secondary. I'm looking for protection in case things go south. For someone who appears to be a very capable entrepreneur, being down 10% isn't exactly rare, and frankly, it isn't even close to being fatal. Decide for yourself how much you actually believe in this. Think with a cool head, then make your move.
Instant profit is a myth. Personally, I'll wait, even if it takes ten years or more...
I like to believe this forum is a place where we can exchange views openly and honestly, leaving everyone to decide their own path.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Sean Carter said:I don't quite get why my skepticism regarding gold has become such a massive deal, especially since this has been dragging on for over a year. Honestly, I think we should be focusing on giving Bill Gates an answer instead. Don't you agree?

It matters. Because it wasn't just a year ago—for several months, you weren't backing the case for investing in gold and silver. At least, that’s how I read it. Correct me if I'm wrong. What is a potential investor supposed to think when they rely on opinions like yours? On what basis have you changed your mind now? Just explain that part, though I haven't seen much from you lately to update investors on your current stance...
At least, that's how your tone came across back then; you sounded desperate. Everyone has their moments, and I've certainly had mine, but even during those times, I maintained support for gold and silver investments through my tone—even when I wasn't entirely convinced it was a brilliant idea. It’s a massive distinction, not some minor detail. It doesn't matter to me personally, but for the sake of new investors, people should know where I stand.😉
So, it isn't just important. It's critical.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Sean Carter said:Maybe not tomorrow, but it's incredibly likely. Washington manipulates whatever it needs to, people are fed up with the games, and frankly, they should expect the fallout.

If my memory serves, you were pretty skeptical about gold and silver last fall, criticizing the sluggish growth and claiming the outlook was bleak. So, you’re shifting gears—at least on a long-term basis. That’s fine by me. It seems like a little light is finally being shed on what I’ve been saying for ages. Forgive the bluntness; I’m just laying out how I see things.
But if gold gets pulled into this, silver is practically a foregone conclusion...
And that would bolster my finances enough to potentially sustain me for years to come.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
dustyheron5 said:Kyle Bass .......The stock market in Zimbabwe was the top performer of the decade—but today, your entire portfolio wouldn't even cover the cost of three eggs.......😍
There are also some solid insights here on how to hedge against cost-push inflation—focusing on productive assets—which is a much more reliable strategy.....

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...ember-zimbabwe

Sure? Nothing is certain. Imagine if we hit a deflationary shock and the Dow Jones plunges to, say, 8,000. In that scenario, I’d be buying more equities temporarily. But looking at the long term, avoiding higher inflation seems unlikely. My timeframe extends beyond five years, especially if we see a major hit like quiettrucker12 predicted. Either way, you need immense patience and disciplined liquidity split between paper assets and precious metals. It’s actually quite helpful when someone in your family knows how to run a farm—in my case, my father. That’s arguably more important than anything else. If you can feed yourself, you might not even need the metals. You still have to invest in that land, but it pays off immensely. That’s the outlook for the next fifteen years, maybe longer. To almost anyone, I would suggest the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j880UaE_97Q

"Back to square one," says the dog.😁
In other words, it’s time to return to our roots: agriculture. Take it or leave it.
It’s more modest, sure, but it’s safer and far more dignified than all this mindless consumerism.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
The Dow crossed 14,000, pushing the Dow/gold ratio past 8.
Stubbornly persistent.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
I should probably mention one thing here. Early on in these forums, Massimo provided plenty of arguments against the "proof version."
Not that I'm suggesting we blindly follow everything said. I think there’s certainly value in having a proof version at certain points. Absolutely. However, the price for such a coin would have to be higher, so if anyone wants to run the numbers and tell me the percentage, go ahead.
Sure, you could settle for a one-ounce coin, but let's be honest—that "isn't it."😁
On the other hand, I protected my interest in Arsenal by buying a fake silver coin, which I personally verified as counterfeit right then and there. I secured my peace of mind for a very small price, all things considered...
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
analogharbor44 said:You might wake up one day in a nursing home and go, "Hey, look, the system actually collapsed—I've been shouting about this my entire life!" 😂

But seriously though!
If the entire global system actually collapsed, we'd be looking at World War III. You really think that's happening? I don't think so!

That's quite an argument. Just because you don't want something to happen doesn't mean it won't. My father used to say the same thing to me...
It keeps rolling along, right up until it rolls off the edge.😉
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Anything north of $1,750–$1,800 is a total vacuum. Honestly, it might be smarter to just sit tight at this level—stay "frozen," if you will—and dodge any major corrections until the landscape shifts.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Sean Carter said:Looking at the current setup, with all due respect, it could easily slide past $1,660 on its way down. 😢

In my view, dipping below 1600 USD would be a stretch. Honestly, I'm convinced it's nearly impossible. As for the long term... well, we'll just have to wait and see.😉