Posts by ruggedhawk20

Dana Perez6 said:-----Ayrton Senna parked his car at the Tamburello corner—meaning you're dead wrong.
-----Ayrton Senna realized there was an issue with the car the second he
arrived at Williams, and he spent the whole time pissed off, agitated, and
constantly working to fix the car's flaws. We know that much for sure.
------Did he care about crashing? He actually told his girlfriend
Adrianna back then that he'd rather not race because he wasn't satisfied with
either the track safety or the car. But if he had, YOU and people like you would have called him a
coward and said that's why he backed out.
You claim all he cared about was winning? Look, every single driver
cares about winning—that's literally why they're there. They didn't come here to pick flowers by the
trackside.😁😵🙏

Oh, I get it! So he just had to die just so people like me wouldn't call him a coward.

Textbook narcissism.

mellowtiger83 said:You clearly didn't consider the possibility that he realized the race car was failing only after he had already lost control.

To put it plainly, when you have a tire blowout on an American interstate while doing 90mph, you know what's coming, and you prepare for it.

Bravo, ruggedhawk20, keep embarrassing yourself! I must admit, you have quite a knack for trolling.

I suppose in your view, every driver who ever died was just incompetent because they failed to notice a mechanical failure.

Over a hundred racers have died at the Isle of Man due to mechanical issues; one wonders how they failed to notice and prevent it.

Fangio
Brabham
Stewart
Lauda
Nelson Piquet
Alain Prost

All those guys have the same amount of titles—maybe even more—than Ayrton Senna, and every single one of them...

... lived to be old men.

Clearly, Senna was missing whatever it was they had.

Common sense, obviously.

And that's the one thing he shared with all his fans.

Walter Anderson43 said:Joe is clearly an obsessed fan of Professor Alain Prost—whom Ayrton Senna dominated and outclassed throughout his entire career—and now he’s just wandering the corners of this forum trying to smear Senna's legacy.

Senna, whom most Formula 1 drivers regard as the greatest driver in the history of Formula 1.
Senna, whom most experts in the automotive world recognize as the finest Formula 1 driver.
Senna, who proved his pure talent on the track—with driving styles that remain the gold standard for perfection and precision—all without any special backing from the FIA president.

To claim that Senna was an egocentric or selfish person—considering he donated millions of dollars to help children, was the only one to jump out of his race car to save his colleagues, fought tirelessly for better safety standards in Formula 1, and won over millions of fans worldwide through his humility and intellect—is a claim only someone of questionable intelligence could make.

But no—apparently the whole world is blinded by "mythomania." Everyone is deluded. All Formula 1 drivers must be uneducated, ignorant, and incompetent if they dare to say Senna is number one.

And yet, we are truly honored to have him—Joe, our forum guru. Our expert. I wouldn't go so far as to call him a professor—but he is certainly just like his idol, Alain Prost.

Why didn't Senna pull the car over at Imola?

There are only two possible answers.

1) He didn't realize something was wrong with the race car—which calls his actual driving skills into question.

2) He just didn't care if he crashed or not. Winning was the only thing that mattered. Which calls his ability to make rational decisions into question.

cosmiccyclist8 said:

Exactly! Who's he praying to? Just himself. He’s got that yellow helmet sitting right there—praying to the holy Ayrton Senna.

And please—do us all a favor and drop the fake expressions.

Give me a break.

Dana Perez6 said:
Nuvolari, I don't know what's up with you, but every time I praise Ayrton Senna, you twist it to make it sound like I'm mocking him. Like I'm making fun of the "Rain Man" who used to pull miracles out of nowhere in weather just like what we're seeing right now in New York, overtaking everyone in some beat-up four-wheeled junker that looked more like a Formula 1 car. It's a shame they stopped the race in Monaco back in '84 on Jean-Marie Balestre's orders just to help Alain Prost hold the lead—because otherwise, if the race had gone to the end, the king Ayrton Senna wouldn't have just overtaken Alain Prost, he probably would have lapped him too.... How is a worm supposed to race a speedboat....😁🙏🤦

Why even bother praising him?

Look, we all get it—Ayrton Senna was a god-tier driver. Maybe even the best of his era.

But let's be real—the guy didn't give a damn about his rivals on the track. Or his fans. He was hands down the biggest egomaniac and narcissist out there.

At Imola 1994, Ayrton Senna should've done exactly what Alain Prost did back in Adelaide 1989.

He should've just hopped out of a bolid that clearly had steering issues. (And since he was such a "legend," he obviously knew something was wrong by the seventh lap.)

But nope—his ego won. Just look at his funeral. Because of his selfishness and this warped view of himself and reality, your boy Ayrton Senna made millions of people miserable in a single second. Millions.

If he wasn't such a massive narcissist, he would've realized he couldn't risk dying for those crowds—he should've pulled the bolid into the pits and swallowed his pride, just like Prost did in Adelaide in '89.

But Senna? He wasn't about swallowing his pride—he'd rather fly off into the afterlife...

Anyone can go out in a blaze of glory—that's the easy part. Real heroes stay on this planet as long as they possibly can... they swallow the bitter pill.

But nah, Senna was built different. He didn't care about anything except himself.

And that’s the legacy Ayrton Senna left behind.

Not Monaco, Toleman, or whatever other nonsense...

Dana Perez6 said:Look, I am showing respect to Ayrton Senna. It's not that hard to wrap your head around.🤔div>

Nah. That’s not exactly showing respect to a dead man.

You and hundreds of thousands of other people just like you—using a dead man to fuel your little internet adventures.

Leave the guy alone already. Either stick to the historical facts—or just shut up.

Nobody gives a damn about this nonsense anymore.

And especially not his former fans—you know, the ones who actually watched him with their own eyes, heard him firsthand, and loved him with everything they had. Back when he was still around...

Then you've got those YouTube channels—you know the ones—where the myth-making and idol worship really started spiraling out of control.

You and guys like you have basically turned the man into a complete joke.

Dana Perez6 said:Facts. The fact is, Ayrton Senna lost his Life because of a mistake with that car, and a dead man can't drive Formula 1 races anymore. As far as I know, Michael Schumacher was still alive back then, so he was able to rack up points and take wins. But if Ayrton Senna had stayed alive? Schumacher would have spent years staring at the rear diffuser of his car. Like I said, he probably wouldn't even see the diffuser because Ayrton Senna was lightning fast—he would've just blown past him, lapping him, leaving Schumacher to wonder what happened to his rear wing setup while Ayrton Senna pulled away.😁 ☕

Show a little respect for the dead.

mellowtiger83 said:Zero points. That's because he was launched from the rear in Adelaide, because he crossed the track limits in Brazil, and because Michael Schumacher and Benetton essentially cheated their way out after the pit stops.
We all know the rest.

An interesting point. Hill could have been picking up points there and elsewhere, potentially trailing by half a lap per lap, yet he managed to spend the following years fighting Michael Schumacher despite being visibly slower than Ayrton Senna.

Let’s be realistic: Ayrton Senna adapted himself to the Williams perfectly. You have to admit he was pulling miracles out of an undriveable car. Had he still been alive in the weeks, months, and years that followed, Michael Schumacher would have spent his time staring at nothing but the view of a rear diffuser.

Ayrton Senna only put together about 60 laps across those three races in a Williams combined. That's way too little data to draw any actual conclusions about "what if."

But we do know what actually happened. The numbers don't lie: Ayrton Senna had 0 points, Michael Schumacher had 92. Ayrton Senna had 0 wins, Michael Schumacher had 8.

Just facts.

cosmiccyclist8 said:So, what happened? Did his haters get him banned?

Nah.

It's just that the same troll who was playing the "Neighbor" role got bored of it—now he's trying to be funny by hanging out with Dana Perez6.

Same guy. Or maybe it's Jelenić.

Honestly, it's all the same person.

mellowtiger83 said:Why hasn't ruggedhawk20 been arguing with Ale?

Man, just let him be. He's clearly just desperate for attention—sticks his nose in everywhere.

It’s a shame we don't have Neighbor around anymore. This is definitely a step backward.

Dana Perez6 said:Yeah, Ayrton Senna was absolutely crushing lap records, taking pole position in all three races that season, and he really left everything out there on the track. It was pure fate that intervened; if that steering column had snapped anywhere else instead of the worst possible spot, he’d still be with us today. As for Damon Hill, I have to tip my hat to him. He’s easily one of the best Formula 1 drivers out there. I honestly don't get why he stayed away from racing for so long, especially since he was a contemporary of Ayrton Senna. If they had both started their careers at the exact same time, it would be a massive debate who actually came out on top. But let's be real—he spent his time driving that dominant Williams car both before and after Ayrton Senna. In one race, he went wheel-to-wheel with Ayrton Senna in the McLaren, eventually overtaking him after some intense, classic resistance from Ayrton Senna, and the commentator actually remarked how tragic it was because Hill only had... Three appearances.Ayrton Senna Three world championships. He's just powerless because of that massive gap in car performance. Back then, the Williams cars were absolutely dominant.☕

How could he start earlier when he lost his dad at 15!? It's a miracle he even made it to Formula 1—especially after grinding through a motorcycle career first.

And then this guy asks "what he did for so long outside of racing"

Like, what have YOU been doing for all those years!?

He didn't have the cash. His father left behind a mountain of debt. It's a wonder they even pulled through.

The worst part is that his father—along with Stewart—was the type who would always check in on widows and offer them help.

And yeah. Widows used to be a standard part of the Grand Prix race scene. The whole mentality surrounding racing was just different back then. That’s why Ayrton Senna showing up with his raw, unrefined approach to racing absolutely terrified everyone. He was the driver the older generation couldn't stand. And since Stewart is one of the few survivors from that era, that 1990 interview turned out the way it did because Stewart couldn't stand Ayrton Senna. Just like how we can't stand Red Bull today.

cosmiccyclist8 said:Who exactly was he falling behind? In which race?

In Brazil, he was a whole damn lap down to Michael Schumacher.

Dana Perez6 said:Nah, it's more about seeing the contrast between how things ran at McLaren versus Williams. At Williams, he was constantly radiating this pure dissatisfaction, almost like he sensed the car was a total lost cause. It felt like he was losing his mind because he had to push every single limit just to stay relevant.🤦

Maybe he was just a driver who struggled to adapt to a new environment or a different setup.

There you go. That’s about all we can say about his "greatness"

The hallmark of an elite driver is being able to pivot instantly when things change. Not to mention making a totally different car feel natural.

A real pro drives whatever they put in front of them.

But hey, according to you, Ayrton Senna just couldn't handle it..

Dana Perez6 said:Yeah, McLaren was running HONDA engines back then. I'm pretty sure turbos were phased out in '89, and Senna and Prost were absolutely tearing it up in the McLaren using that Honda power... from 1983 to 1988 they were using TAG Porsche engines, before that it was FORD Cosworth, and back in the 70s they had a little Alfa Romeo engine, plus BRM in '67/'68. Then from 1988 to 1993, it was HONDA. In '93, Senna switched to Ford Cosworth, and when he moved to Williams in '94, McLaren was using a PEUGEOT engine. From 1995 to 2015, McLaren used MERCEDES' engines, until HONDA stepped back in in 2015, which eventually got swapped for RENAULT in 2017—which is what's still in the car today.☕

They didn't have the TAG Porsche in '88, they had the Honda.

And why even bring up stuff that has nothing to do with the topic?

I was just telling Ale there's zero chance Porsche sold any engine to McLaren after 1989—meaning after the year that green MARCH Porsche IndyCar!!! was photographed.

So, you basically answered one stupid claim with another. Completely unprovoked.

cosmiccyclist8 said:Lesson 2 is coming tomorrow, but right now I'm absolutely wiped. Time for sleep.🙂>

Time to hit Google.

Hey hey hey—what's up?

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cosmiccyclist8 said:You guys seriously don't get it—he's basically spinning this yarn about how Porsche had to absolutely demolish the IndyCar scene back in the eighties,
that they actually needed to cook up some new regulations fast just to stop anyone from coming along and doing exactly what they did.
Once the folks at Porsche realized what kind of shady characters they were dealing with, it was basically a definitive "goodbye" to IndyCar.
They ended up recycling part of the project—basically just tweaking the engine a bit—and sold it off to McLaren. And man, talk about a winning combination!

Are you actually kidding me right now????

This is an '89 style car

What kind of engine are you talking about? Like, did Porsche really sell anything to McLaren after '89?

Hey! Ale!?

What kind of story are you trying to sell us, Ale? Seriously, man. You just posted a picture of a MARCH car from a CART race with a Porsche engine—you're such a damn March fanatic. You literally just dropped a photo and didn't actually tell any kind of story.

That’s not even Williams material for a kid. And it’s definitely not F1 level.

If you really think so, let me set you straight right now.

cosmiccyclist8 said:Man, those old Williams cars really just hit different—you can't shake that feeling 👍.

You're tripping. You honestly think a March Williams is anything special—or that Benetton was illegal? And claiming Verstappen is even in the same league as Schumacher? Please.

That’s all you're getting out of me on that topic.

Tyler Bennett5 said:Is this coming from some private collection?

That's not even a Williams—it's a MARCH

Ale's just rambling like usual