Posts by ruggedhawk20

Kyle Lopez2 said:It isn't really about who he was; it’s more about your comment suggesting you're docking Senna points just because he died.🤔
Look, if you're saying seven titles are better than three, fine, but you didn't frame it that way—you phrased it like a sarcastic jab or like someone who doesn't get it, implying this other guy is superior simply because he never hit a wall. 😵 And then you claim Hamilton wouldn't have crashed if he were driving back in the old days.

Younger Hamilton was a total daredevil, honestly; he used to throw cars around with people like it was nothing, not to mention those times he went off track. I won't even bring up the tire failures or when his brakes gave out at Hockenheim. Just look at that crash with Max in Silverstone where they both could have been killed because Hamilton's tire blew, the car started fishtailing, and then—boom—he went into a violent spin over the curb.

There’s that one quote from the old champions—I think it was Hill—when he was asked how a kid in a slower car could be faster than him in qualifying. He basically replied that he didn't think the kid would last long, and sure enough, the kid ended up losing his life in the following races. He wasn't talking about aggressive racing styles; he was just describing the raw speed he saw during qualifying. Back then, having a ten-year career meant driving with extreme caution, yet they still had several massive wrecks where they took heavy hits.

Man, imagine trying to drive a car with tires as thin as a bicycle's—like an old Yugo—doing 186 miles high speeds and needing to brake. Imagine chasing a Yugo at 100 mph and having to slow down for a corner; if you lock up just a little, the damn thing starts sliding and you're just a passenger. You'd have to drive on foot to survive ten years like that. 😵 You guys are being unrealistic.☕

Mmmmmm... you definitely sound like someone who remembers the sixties.

Where were you in the sixties?

graniteharbor502 said:I find myself compelled to suggest that this assertion is, quite simply, inaccurate.

He certainly had quite the reputation among the ladies, didn't he? I wouldn't go so far as to label him a complete rogue, though—not before he earned that "smooth operator" moniker, at least.

Don't make me start digging through the evidence—I'll do it.

graniteharbor502 said:Jim Clark lost his life because of the very type of mechanical failure Lewis experienced, rather than due to any error in his own driving. Jim Clark drove a car that was notoriously temperamental and fragile, yet he completed four times fewer races than Lewis. Hamilton, meanwhile, has wielded the most dominant and reliable machine in history, managing to pull off eight Grand Slams. Back in 1963, at Spa, he left the rest of the field five minutes behind him despite having a broken gearbox. It leads one to wonder: wasn't Jim Clark a sort of understated, humble alien who simply drove faster than everyone else could possibly imagine, seemingly baffled by why the others were so slow? He represented everything Hamilton aspires to be, yet can never truly become.

We aren't talking about '60

We're talking about '61.

Get it together.

Because of Monza in '61, Clark isn't the GOAT.

The only actual GOAT candidates are

Niki Lauda
Michael Schumacher

Amen.

Kyle Lopez2 said:That category you're bringing up feels pretty irrelevant to me.🤔 So what? Anyone stepping into a car has to accept the risks they create, just like the fans who choose to sit right in the middle of all that action.

Plus, if I remember correctly, it was Trips who hit Clark, not the other way around.🤔

What, were you around in the sixties or something?!

That crash happened because of a mistake by Amanda Kelly. And honestly, that wreck is exactly why she became so low-key throughout her career. You know, how those clueless reporters and historians love to spin it as being some "quiet, reserved kid."

"Quiet and reserved"—yeah, right. I've had plenty of women tell me she was a total little rebel!

But yeah, ever since that collision with Von Tripp, she’s kept a super low profile around the track and the paddock.

shadowmarlin22 said:Exactly. In this sport, the primary goal is just staying alive—everything else is secondary. That’s why Fangio and Lewis hold such weight—though Lewis eventually overtook Schumacher in that regard.
Fangio’s percentages are incredible—pole positions, win rates, titles—but Lewis’s raw numbers are just staggering.
Sure, names like Clark, Schumacher, or Senna make a case, but there are massive holes in those arguments. The fact that you had to survive being on the grid with Senna or Clark is the biggest hole of all—tragic, but true.
In my view, Max will likely be categorized more as one of the fastest single-lap drivers rather than the greatest overall. Senna is almost certainly the fastest, followed by Lewis, then Clark, Fangio, and Schumacher—the five quickest to ever do it.

You aren't paying attention, kid.

I’m not talking about Hockenheim in '68—I’m talking about Monza in '61, where a driving error caused another driver's death. Wolfgang von Trips.

Plus about 15 spectators at the end of the track too.

Senna basically killed himself. This guy carries sixteen people on his soul.

There's zero discussion—those numbers don't make him the GOAT.

shadowmarlin22 said:Exactly. In this sport, the primary goal is just staying alive—everything else is secondary. That’s why Fangio and Lewis hold such weight—though Lewis eventually overtook Schumacher in that regard.
Fangio’s percentages are incredible—pole positions, win rates, titles—but Lewis’s raw numbers are just staggering.
Sure, names like Clark, Schumacher, or Senna make a case, but there are massive holes in those arguments. The fact that you had to survive being on the grid with Senna or Clark is the biggest hole of all—tragic, but true.
In my view, Max will likely be categorized more as one of the fastest single-lap drivers rather than the greatest overall. Senna is almost certainly the fastest, followed by Lewis, then Clark, Fangio, and Schumacher—the five quickest to ever do it.

You aren't paying attention, kid.

I’m not talking about Hockenheim in '68—I mean Monza in '61, where a driving error caused the death of another driver. Wolfgang von Trips.

Plus about 15 spectators at the edge of the track too.

Senna basically killed himself. He carries that number sixteen on his soul.

There's no debate—those stats don't give him any GOAT status whatsoever.

graniteharbor502 said:Quote:>

ruggedhawk20 says: Dearest Moderator, one must consider that Fangio actually lost his championship fight to his own teammate, Giuseppe Farina—though some prefer to refer to him as... the Doctor of Medicine.

😉
And that is precisely why he is the GOAT: Jim Clark

Clark basically had the spirit of Wolfgang Von Tripp inside him

A GOAT can't be someone who caused another driver's death through a mistake—period.

Just imagine if Lewis killed someone like that early in his career. You have no idea how much these internet forums would absolutely lose their minds.

wiredscout14 said:How F1 plays with everyone else 😁

This season is a pure emulation of '06. People have been so bored over the last few years that they're treating this like the peak... And given the current state of the grid, the sport needs a repeat of '12 (that first half, anyway). Only if those who actually need it can figure it out 🙂
...

Hold up. So you're telling me you want someone to script the first half of 2012 for you?

Is that really what you want?!

Then go watch "Driven"—God help you—instead of an actual sport. You know, one that happens naturally without some producer pulling the strings.

shadowmarlin22 said:Man, seeing people take shots like this out of nowhere—just straight-up dragging the GOAT for no reason—is getting old. 🤦🤦

Let’s not forget—this was a race back in 2010. Back then, weaving on the track to break a tow was basically a gray area—which is just a polite way of saying it was brilliant tactics and finding a loophole in the rulebook. Of course, the regulations have shifted since then. Nowadays, any sudden change in direction for any reason is an immediate red flag, so trying to equate that old move with what Max did is just plain nonsense.
Let's take another crack at this.

Swerving on the track!?

What sport are you even watching? The Tour de France!?

graniteharbor502 said:If we are looking at this through a purely statistical lens, one has to wonder if anyone has ever truly piloted a machine quite as dominant as the one he commanded. It really makes you pause and reflect, doesn't it? When you consider the sheer engineering superiority of that car, isn't it obvious that there are at least three drivers competing in today's field who, if placed behind the wheel of that exact same vehicle, would likely achieve identical results—if not even surpass them?
Can a driver truly claim the title of the Greatest of All Time if they have fundamentally lost a championship battle against their own teammate? It is a question that lingers in the mind, isn't it? One must wonder if the very essence of greatness requires a certain level of dominance within one's own garage, a sense of absolute supremacy over those sharing the same machinery. If you cannot emerge victorious against the person sitting in the car right next to you, can you really be considered the pinnacle of the sport?
When I consider who truly deserves the title of the Greatest of All Time, my mind immediately drifts toward the legends like Juan Manuel Fangio or Jim Clark. To me, those are the only names that carry such weight. Everything else we discuss lately feels somewhat beneath that level of greatness, doesn't it?

When one takes a moment to step back and examine the historical data regarding Valtteri Bottas's performance in teammate duels, does it not become clear how he fared against his contemporaries? If we look at the period just before Felipe Massa stepped away from the cockpit, Bottas certainly held his own, especially when compared to the era of pay-drivers like Pastor Maldonado. Furthermore, if we analyze the trajectory of Sergio Perez, isn't it evident that he consistently outperformed those he was paired with, such as Kamui Kobayashi, Nico Hulkenberg, Esteban Ocon, and Lance Stroll? One cannot help but wonder if these patterns of dominance are merely statistical anomalies or true reflections of driving caliber.
Is it not a curious thing to contemplate how Valtteri Bottas found himself within the ranks of Mercedes-Benz simply because Toto Wolff held the reins? It seems his tenure there was defined by that leadership, and yet, now he finds himself departing from the team entirely. One cannot help but wonder, as we look toward the future, just how much "excellence" he might actually bring to the table during his time at Alfa Romeo?

Hey dear Moderator, Fangio actually lost his championship battle to his teammate Giuseppe Farina—you know, the guy some people call "The Doctor."

Linda Peterson43 said:They really ought to implement a rule where, in situations like this, the team gets to decide exactly when they take their penalty. Ideally, it should happen before qualifying begins... 🙂
And perhaps, if they take it on Saturday, it would result in a 3-place penalty since it's the sprint race, whereas if they wait until Sunday, it would be a 5-place penalty... 🙂
But again, I maintain that they should have to declare their intentions BEFORE qualifying starts... 🙂

Yeah, right. They might as well just let them choose which position they want to finish in at the end of the race.

George Russell's out in Q3

🙂

John Ortiz4 said:back in the day, there was 5.0 miles this race track during the 70s

So?

Gregory Brown94 said:Schedule (for those who might have trouble loading the image):

Friday

4:30 PM Practice 1
8:00 PM Qualifying

Saturday

4:00 PM Practice 2
8:30 PM Sprint Qualifying

Sunday

6:00 PM race

Thanks, Gregory

God bless you with the most beautiful girl a man could ever dream of!

Hold up a second. Are Lewis Hamilton fanboys seriously expecting Valtteri Bottas to actually take down Max Verstappen?

What are you guys even smoking?

Gasly¡!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gregory Brown94 said:I don't get how it's not visible—even if those graphics over the images make things messy again, just like we've seen on the broadcast for years. My plan is to turn these topic intros into actual previews before the races start. I actually thought about making a video for YT, but I'm dodging a copyright strike.

The schedule on that image is 600px wide—how is that not readable? The numbers are 16px, bright red, paired with white text for the details, all sitting on a dark background.

And as for the forum crowd, so far it's just been the President complaining about how much I know. Or just venting about the Democratic Party.

wow, I don't get this whole argument. We aren't toddlers who need massive, textbook-style drawings and letters just to understand stuff.

Just type out the schedule.

Robert Cox46 said:Honestly, you only open that thing to check the schedule or maybe see if it's gonna rain.

Exactly! The schedule is everything.

graniteharbor502 said:Check the last pic—there's the schedule at the end of the first post. Though, fingers crossed Alan actually listens to us and puts the schedule somewhere more obvious next time.

"Fingers crossed"!?

You're a moderator—you've got all the tools you need to stop "hoping" and just start threatening people until they actually do what you want.

The rest of us regular folks get stuck with hope, but definitely not you.

graniteharbor502 said:Are you losing it? You got the schedule yesterday.

race starts at 8 PM

Is it really that hard for our beloved President to just drop the schedule in the intro post? I shouldn't have to dig through like a thousand posts just to find it.

Either that, or give Alan a warning before he gets banned—you can't just post intros without the basics like the start time.