Posts by ruggedhawk20

William Bennett53 said:As far as my own personal take goes (though I haven't had a chance to run this by my colleague yet), Joe could easily spend the entire year tallying points using an alternative system. Much like those old trophies awarded for finishing in certain positions, this wouldn't demand any extra effort from the drivers themselves, so why not?

However, if Joe’s alternative scoring method is going to survive, it needs to be handled systematically and with actual seriousness; the whole topic shouldn't turn into a breeding ground for trolls and spam. If that happens, the project will simply have to be shut down.

Exactly! Finally, some common sense! Honestly, if you guys scrap this, I’m gonna be complaining non-stop in the championship thread—at least this gives me something fun to do to stay sane.

Regarding the trolls and their constant baiting, we've already got a few prime candidates for a ban. Personally, I think we should just hand out a couple of draconian red cards right at the start; then we can actually have some peace in the thread for the rest of the season.

If we let them get away with it now, they'll just keep coming back to stir up trouble forever.

darkmarlin16 said:A whole case of Budweiser. Get that down in your notes.

You clearly didn't read carefully, kid.

ruggedhawk20 said:Super Bowl

Look, I’m the kind of guy who can't stand injustice—once I get fired up, things get messy. You all know I think the current points system is absolute garbage. So, to stop myself from losing my mind and actually staying sane, I’ve decided to launch the "Super Bowl." Just a heads-up: you don't need to participate; this is my own private thing. I’m just going to take the actual championship results and score them using my own system. We aren't running two different competitions here—it's just one—except I'm the one handing out the prizes. At the end of the season, I’m buying a six-pack of beer for whoever wins the "Super Bowl." And seriously, don't bother posting your own predictions here—this isn't a separate contest. I'll just grab the official results and score them my way, fairly: 25, 18, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1. Basically, if you nail first place, you get 25, second gets 18, and so on.

Also, hey mods—if you delete this, shut it down, or try to block it somehow, you're clearly out of your minds. I’m literally offering a six-pack of beer to the winner, so it wouldn't be fair to ban it.

And just so we're clear, if my kid wins, he gets a pack of apricot juice since he's a minor. Everything is totally legal, and I don't see any reason why the "Super Bowl" can't happen.

Anyway, let's see how everyone did after round one.

Official score:
1. Kimi Räikkönen
2. Fernando Alonso
3. Sebastian Vettel
4. Felipe Massa
5. Lewis Hamilton
6. Mark Webber
7. Adrian Sutil
8. Paul di Resta
9. Jenson Button
10. Romain Grosjean
11. Sergio Perez
12. Jean-Eric Vergne
13. Esteban Gutierrez
14. Valtteri Bottas
15. Jules Bianchi
16. Charles PIC
17. Max Chilton
18. Giedo van der Garda
DNF Daniel Ricciardo
DNF Nico Rosberg
DNF Pastor Maldonado
DNF Nico Hulkenberg
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel
Fast Lap Kimi Räikkönen

Terry Carter2 said:These are half-baked rules that bear zero resemblance to the actual championship; there is absolutely no reason to even compare them.
It feels more like a "closest guess" trophy than a real league!

The more I read through these various proposals, the more I find myself favoring the current scoring system.
The bottom line is that the participation (the predicting part) should adapt to the established rules (which, frankly, most people haven't even bothered to read, let alone understand), rather than trying to bend the rules to fit how people participate!
😁

Look, I’ve finally cracked the code. Thank God we live in a country with free speech—if someone’s actually unhappy with how things work, they can just come up with their own solution and pitch it to everyone. Simple as that.

So now we’ve got this alternative scoring method, the "Super Bowl," and we’ll just wait and see how massive the gap ends up being between the Super Bowl standings and the actual Championship rankings.

Same predictions, just two different ways to count points. We're already seeing huge gaps after just one round.

Final standings after the Express Airlines GP

Express Airlines 45
Rtzuiop 45
asdfg5 44
ruggedhawk20 40
Kimi Räikkönen#1 30
rosi 29
Dorian Yates 27
Gray Nacki 24
Mirko Cro Cop ......23
mobberzg 19
Marley 18
Ferstar 14
Sigurno 12
maminho 11
FilipR5 11
Kockar 😁 10
bambus 17 ....10
WayOut 2
Dinaminjo 1
karlospeedi 1
Paskaneman 1
Bjesomar_ 1
Patagonia 1
Formula 1 Driver 1
Templarski red 0
sukKi 0

Patagonia 1
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Mark Webber
3. Fernando Alonso
4. Lewis Hamilton
5. Nico Rosberg
6. Felipe Massa
7. Kimi Räikkönen
8. Adrian Sutil
9. Romain Grosjean
10. Jenson Button
11. Nico Hulkenberg
12. Sergio Perez
13. Paul di Resta
14. Pastor Maldonado
15. Esteban Gutierrez
16. Jean-Eric Vergne
17. Daniel Ricciardo
DNF Bottas
DNF Jules Bianchi
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Giedo van der Garda
DNF Charles PIC
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Fast Lap Mark Webber

sukKi 0
1. Lewis Hamilton
2. Mark Webber
3. Kimi Räikkönen
4. Sebastian Vettel
5. Jenson Button
6. Felipe Massa
7. Fernando Alonso
8. Sergio Perez
9. Pastor Maldonado
10. Nico Rosberg
11. Paul di Resta
12. Adrian Sutil
13. Nico Hulkenberg
14. Jean-Eric Vergne
15. Valtteri Bottas
16. Daniel Ricciardo
17. Charles PIC
18. Esteban Gutierrez
DNF Romain Grosjean
DNF Jules Bianchi
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Giedo van der Garda
Pit Stop Kimi Räikkönen
Fast Lap Mark Webber

The Best F1 driver 1
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Mark Webber
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Kimi Räikkönen
5. Nico Rosberg
6. Romain Grosjean
7. Felipe Massa
8. Jenson Button
9. Fernando Alonso
10. Adrian Sutil
11. Sergio Perez
12. Nico Hulkenberg
13. Pastor Maldonado
14. Valtteri Bottas
15. Paul di Resta
16. Jean-Eric Vergne
17. Daniel Ricciardo
18. Jules Bianchi
DNF Charles PIC
DNF Esteban Gutierrez
DNF Giedo van der Garda
DNF Max Chilton
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Fast Lap Sebastian Vettel

ruggedhawk20 40
1. Kimi Räikkönen 25
2. Romain Grosjean
3. Sebastian Vettel 15
4. Mark Webber
5. Jenson Button
6. Sergio Perez
7. Lewis Hamilton
8. Nico Rosberg
9. Fernando Alonso
10. Felipe Massa
11. Pastor Maldonado
12. Valtteri Bottas
13. Nico Hulkenberg
14. Esteban Gutierrez
15. Adrian Sutil
16. Paul di Resta
17. Charles PIC
18. Jules Bianchi
19. Giedo van der Garda
20. Max Chilton
17. Charles PIC
18. Jules Bianchi
19. Giedo van der Garda
20. Max Chilton
DNF Daniel Ricciardo
DNF Jean-Eric Vergne
Pit Stop Kimi Räikkönen
Fast Lap Sebastian Vettel

Templarski red 0
1. Felipe Massa
2. Sebastian Vettel
3. Fernando Alonso
4. Lewis Hamilton
5. Jenson Button
6. Sergio Perez
7. Kimi Räikkönen
8. Nico Hulkenberg
9. Valtteri Bottas
10. Adrian Sutil
11. Paul di Resta
12. Jean-Eric Vergne
13. Daniel Ricciardo
14. Jules Bianchi
15. Charles PIC
16. Esteban Gutierrez
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Giedo van der Garda
DNF Mark Webber
DNF Nico Rosberg
DNF Pastor Maldonado
DNF Romain Grosjean
Pit Stop Mark Webber
Fast Lap Sebastian Vettel

mobberzg 19
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Fernando Alonso 18
3. Mark Webber
4. Lewis Hamilton
5. Kimi Räikkönen
6. Felipe Massa
7. Romain Grosjean
8. Jenson Button
9. Nico Rosberg
10. Pastor Maldonado
11. Nico Hulkenberg
12. Adrian Sutil
13. Paul di Resta
14. Valtteri Bottas
15. Esteban Gutierrez
16. Daniel Ricciardo
17. Jules Bianchi
18. Charles PIC
DNF Sergio Perez
DNF Jean-Eric Vergne
DNF Giedo van der Garda
DNF Max Chilton
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Fast Lap Romain Grosjean

Dorian.Gray 27
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Fernando Alonso 18
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Kimi Räikkönen
5. Felipe Massa
6. Mark Webber 8
7. Romain Grosjean
8. Nico Rosberg
9. Adrian Sutil
10. Jenson Button
11. Paul di Resta
12. Sergio Perez
13. Nico Hulkenberg
14. Pastor Maldonado
15. Esteban Gutierrez
16. Jean-Eric Vergne
17. Valtteri Bottas
18. Jules Bianchi
19. Daniel Ricciardo
20. Charles Pic
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Giedo van der Garde
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Fast Lap Sebastian Vettel

asdfg5 44
1. Kimi Räikkönen 25
2. Fernando Alonso 18
3. Jenson Button
4. Sebastian Vettel
5. Felipe Massa
6. Lewis Hamilton
7. Romain Grosjean
8. Pastor Maldonado
9. Sergio Perez
10. Nico Hulkenberg
11. Mark Webber
12. Valtteri Bottas
13. Adrian Sutil
14. Esteban Gutierrez
15. Jean-Eric Vergne
16. Jules Bianchi
17. Charles Pic
18. Max Chilton
DNF Nico Rosberg
DNF Paul di Resta
DNF Giedo van der Garde
DNF Daniel Ricciardo
Pit Stop Kimi Räikkönen
Fast Lap Kimi Räikkönen 1

Sure thing 12
1. Fernando Alonso
2. Sebastian Vettel
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Felipe Massa 12
5. Mark Webber
6. Kimi Räikkönen
7. Jenson Button
8. Nico Rosberg
9. Sergio Perez
10. Nico Hulkenberg
11. Romain Grosjean
12. Valtteri Bottas
13. Esteban Gutierrez
14. Pastor Maldonado
15. Daniel Ricciardo
16. Paul di Resta
17. Charles Pic
DNF Jules Bianchi
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Jean-Eric Vergne
DNF Giedo van der Garde
DNF Adrian Sutil
Pit Stop Fernando Alonso
Fast Lap Lewis Hamilton

Whatever 😁 10
1. Fernando Alonso
2. Sebastian Vettel
3. Jenson Button
4. Mark Webber
5. Lewis Hamilton 10
6. Sergio Perez
7. Felipe Massa
8. Kimi Räikkönen
9. Nico Rosberg
10. Pastor Maldonado
11. Nico Hulkenberg
12. Adrian Sutil
13. Paul di Resta
14. Valtteri Bottas
15. Jean-Eric Vergne
16. Daniel Ricciardo
DNF Esteban Gutierrez
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Jules Bianchi
DNF Charles Pic
DNF Giedo van der Garde
DNF Romain Grosjean
Pit Stop Fernando Alonso
Fast Lap Fernando Alonso

clueless 17 ....10
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Kimi Räikkönen
3. Fernando Alonso
4. Lewis Hamilton
5. Felipe Massa
6. Mark Webber 8
7. Nico Rosberg
8. Adrian Sutil
9. Romain Grosjean
10. Paul di Resta
11. Jenson Button
12. Pastor Maldonado
13. Sergio Perez
14. Nico Hulkenberg
15. Jules Bianchi
16. Esteban Gutierrez
17. Valtteri Bottas
18. Charles Pic
DNF Jean-Eric Vergne
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Giedo van der Garde
DNF Daniel Ricciardo
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Fast Lap Kimi Räikkönen 1

FilipR5 ......11
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Kimi Räikkönen
3. Fernando Alonso
4. Mark Webber
5. Lewis Hamilton 10
6. Romain Grosjean
7. Felipe Massa
8. Nico Hulkenberg
9. Adrian Sutil
10. Jenson Button
11. Sergio Perez
12. Paul di Resta
13. Pastor Maldonado
14. Daniel Ricciardo
15. Jean-Eric Vergne
16. Jules Bianchi
DNF Nico Rosberg
DNF Valtteri Bottas
DNF Esteban Gutierrez
DNF Giedo van der Garde
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Charles Pic
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Fast Lap Romain Grosjean

R Nesta Marley 18
1. Fernando Alonso
2. Mark Webber
3. Sebastian Vettel 15
4. Lewis Hamilton
5. Kimi Räikkönen
6. Romain Grosjean
7. Nico Rosberg
8. Felipe Massa
9. Jenson Button 2
10. Nico Hulkenberg
11. Sergio Perez
12. Pastor Maldonado
13. Daniel Ricciardo
14. Paul di Resta
15. Jean-Eric Vergne
16. Adrian Sutil
17. Charles Pic
DNF Valtteri Bottas
DNF Jules Bianchi
DNF Esteban Gutierrez
DNF Giedo van der Garde
DNF Max Chilton
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Fast Lap Fernando Alonso

Nacki 24
1. Fernando Alonso
2. Kimi Räikkönen
3. Sebastian Vettel 15
4. Lewis Hamilton
5. Felipe Massa
6. Mark Webber 8
7. Nico Rosberg
8. Romain Grosjean
9. Adrian Sutil
10. Nico Hulkenberg
11. Valtteri Bottas
12. Pastor Maldonado
13. Jenson Button
14. Esteban Gutierrez
15. Jean-Eric Vergne
16. Daniel Ricciardo
17. Charles Pic
DNF Paul di Resta
DNF Sergio Perez
DNF Giedo van der Garda
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Jules Bianchi
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Fast Lap Lewis Hamilton

Mirko_M ......23
1. Mark Webber
2. Sebastian Vettel
3. Romain Grosjean
4. Felipe Massa 12
5. Lewis Hamilton 10
6. Fernando Alonso
7. Kimi Räikkönen
8. Adrian Sutil
9. Sergio Perez
10. Esteban Gutierrez
11. Valtteri Bottas
12. Paul di Resta
13. Jean-Eric Vergne
14. Daniel Ricciardo
15. Jules Bianchi
16. Charles Pic
17. Giedo van der Garda
DNF Jenson Button
DNF Nico Rosberg
DNF Nico Hulkenberg
DNF Pastor Maldonado
DNF Max Chilton
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Fast Lap Romain Grosjean

karlospeedi.....1
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Lewis Hamilton
3. Fernando Alonso
4. Jenson Button
5. Kimi Räikkönen
6. Nico Rosberg
7. Romain Grosjean
8. Sergio Perez
9. Paul di Resta
10. Nico Hulkenberg
11. Adrian Sutil
12. Pastor Maldonado
13. Daniel Ricciardo
14. Jean-Eric Vergne
15. Valtteri Bottas
16. Esteban Gutierrez
17. Jules Bianchi
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Giedo van der Garda
DNF Mark Webber
DNF Felipe Massa
DNF Charles Pic
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Fast Lap Mark Webber

Your picks:
rosi 29
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Fernando Alonso 18
3. Mark Webber
4. Kimi Räikkönen
5. Lewis Hamilton 10
6. Romain Grosjean
7. Felipe Massa
8. Nico Hulkenberg
9. Adrian Sutil
10. Jenson Button
11. Pastor Maldonado
12. Paul di Resta
13. Daniel Ricciardo
14. Jean-Eric Vergne
15. Valtteri Bottas
16. Jules Bianchi
DNF Jules Bianchi and Charles PIC
DNF Felipe Massa and Giedo van der Garda
DNF Sergio Perez
DNF Nico Rosberg
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Esteban Gutierrez
PP Sebastian Vettel 1
FL Fernando Alonso

Kimi#1 30
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Fernando Alonso 18
3. Jenson Button
4. Mark Webber
5. Lewis Hamilton 10
6. Kimi Räikkönen
7. Sergio Perez
8. Felipe Massa
9. Nico Rosberg
10. Romain Grosjean 1
11. Nico Hulkenberg
12. Pastor Maldonado
13. Paul di Resta
14. Adrian Sutil
15. Daniel Ricciardo
16. Jean-Eric Vergne
17. Giedo van der Garde
DNF Esteban Gutierrez
DNF Jules Bianchi
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Valtteri Bottas
DNF Charles PIC
PP Sebastian Vettel 1
FL Lewis Hamilton

maminho 11
1. Fernando Alonso
2. Sebastian Vettel
3. Kimi Räikkönen
4. Romain Grosjean
5. Felipe Massa
6. Mark Webber 8
7. Lewis Hamilton
8. Nico Hulkenberg
9. Jenson Button 2
10. Adrian Sutil
11. Pastor Maldonado
12. Sergio Perez
13. Paul di Resta
14. Esteban Gutierrez
15. Valtteri Bottas
16. Jean-Eric Vergne
17. Jules Bianchi
18. Charles PIC
19. Giedo van der Garde
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Nico Rosberg
DNF Daniel Ricciardo
PP Sebastian Vettel 1
FL Fernando Alonso

MAXYM 0 (0)

WayOut 2
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Mark Webber
3. Kimi Räikkönen
4. Fernando Alonso
5. Nico Rosberg
6. Lewis Hamilton
7. Felipe Massa
8. Jenson Button
9. Nico Hulkenberg
10. Adrian Sutil
11. Paul di Resta
12. Esteban Gutierrez
13. Jean-Eric Vergne
14. Valtteri Bottas
15. Daniel Ricciardo
16. Charles PIC
17. Jules Bianchi
18. Giedo van der Garde
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Romain Grosjean
DNF Sergio Perez
DNF Pastor Maldonado
PP Sebastian Vettel 1
FL Kimi Räikkönen 1

Express 45
1. Kimi Räikkönen 25
2. Fernando Alonso 18
3. Jenson Button
4. Sebastian Vettel
5. Romain Grosjean
6. Lewis Hamilton
7. Sergio Perez
8. Pastor Maldonado
9. Nico Rosberg
10. Nico Hulkenberg
11. Adrian Sutil
12. Paul di Resta
13. Daniel Ricciardo
14. Esteban Gutierrez
15. Jean-Eric Vergne
16. Valtteri Bottas
DNF Jules Bianchi
DNF Charles PIC
DNF Max Chilton
DNF Felipe Massa
DNF Giedo van der Garde
DNF Mark Webber
PP Sebastian Vettel 1
FL Kimi Räikkönen 1

Dinaminjo 1
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Mark Webber
3. Kimi Räikkönen
4. Romain Grosjean
5. Fernando Alonso
6. Nico Rosberg
7. Lewis Hamilton
8. Felipe Massa
9. Nico Hulkenberg
10. Jenson Button
11. Pastor Maldonado
12. Adrian Sutil
13. Paul di Resta
14. Sergio Perez
15. Daniel Ricciardo
16. Jean-Eric Vergne
17. Esteban Gutierrez
18. Valtteri Bottas
19. Charles PIC
20. Jules Bianchi
21. Max Chilton
22. Giedo van der Garde
PP Sebastian Vettel 1
FL Romain Grosjean

Romain Grosjean 14
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Kimi Räikkönen
3. Fernando Alonso
4. Mark Webber
5. Lewis Hamilton 10
6. Felipe Massa
7. Nico Rosberg
8. Jenson Button
9. Adrian Sutil
10. Romain Grosjean 1
11. Paul di Resta
12. Nico Hulkenberg
13. Pastor Maldonado
14. Sergio Perez
15. Valtteri Bottas
16. Jules Bianchi
17. Esteban Gutierrez
18. Charles PIC
DNF Daniel Ricciardo
Giedo van der Garda DNF
Daniel Ricciardo and Jean-Eric
Max Chilton DNF
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Fast Lap Kimi Räikkönen 1

Paskaneman 1
Mark Webber
Sebastian Vettel
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Fernando Alonso
5. Kimi Räikkönen
6. Felipe Massa
7. Nico Rosberg
8. Jenson Button
9. Romain Grosjean
10. Adrian Sutil
Pastor Maldonado.
12. Nico Hulkenberg
13. Paul di Resta
14. Sergio Perez
15. Esteban Gutierrez
Daniel Ricciardo DNF
Jules Bianchi DNF
Bottas DNF
Charles PIC DNF
Max Chilton DNF
Daniel Ricciardo and Jean-Eric
Giedo van der Garda DNF
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Sebastian Vettel hit a Fast Lap.

Bjesomar_ 1
Sebastian Vettel
Mark Webber
3. Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
5. Felipe Massa
6. Nico Rosberg
7. Kimi Räikkönen
8. Jenson Button
9. Romain Grosjean
10. Adrian Sutil
11. Nico Hulkenberg
12. Sergio Perez
13. Paul di Resta
14. Daniel Ricciardo
Pastor Maldonado
16. Valtteri Bottas
17. Jean-Eric Vergne
18. Charles PIC
Giedo van der Garda DNF
Jules Bianchi DNF
Max Chilton DNF
Esteban Gutierrez DNF
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Adrian Sutil on a Fast Lap—nice.

Rtzuiop 45
Mark Webber
2. Fernando Alonso 18
3. Sebastian Vettel 15
4. Kimi Räikkönen
5. Lewis Hamilton—top tier.
6. Felipe Massa
7. Romain Grosjean
8. Jenson Button
9. Adrian Sutil
10. Nico Hulkenberg
Pastor Maldonado
12. Paul di Resta
13. Sergio Perez
14. Jean-Eric Vergne
15. Daniel Ricciardo
16. Valtteri Bottas
17. Jules Bianchi
18. Charles PIC
Esteban Gutierrez DNF
Nico Rosberg DNF
Giedo van der Garda DNF
Max Chilton DNF
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel 1
Kimi Räikkönen hit a Fast Lap—number one.

Super Bowl

Look, I’m the kind of guy who can't stand injustice—once I get fired up, things get messy. You all know I think the current points system is absolute garbage. So, to stop myself from losing my mind and actually staying sane, I’ve decided to launch the "Super Bowl." Just a heads-up: you don't need to participate; this is my own private thing. I’m just going to take the actual championship results and score them using my own system. We aren't running two different competitions here—it's just one—except I'm the one handing out the prizes. At the end of the season, I’m buying a six-pack of beer for whoever wins the "Super Bowl." And seriously, don't bother posting your own predictions here—this isn't a separate contest. I'll just grab the official results and score them my way, fairly: 25, 18, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1. Basically, if you nail first place, you get 25, second gets 18, and so on.

Also, hey mods—if you delete this, shut it down, or try to block it somehow, you're clearly out of your minds. I’m literally offering a six-pack of beer to the winner, so it wouldn't be fair to ban it.

And just so we're clear, if my kid wins, he gets a pack of apricot juice since he's a minor. Everything is totally legal, and I don't see any reason why the "Super Bowl" can't happen.

Anyway, let's see how everyone did after round one.

Official score:
1. Kimi Räikkönen
2. Fernando Alonso
3. Sebastian Vettel
4. Felipe Massa
5. Lewis Hamilton
6. Mark Webber
7. Adrian Sutil
8. Paul di Resta
9. Jenson Button
10. Romain Grosjean
11. Sergio Perez
12. Jean-Eric Vergne
13. Esteban Gutierrez
14. Valtteri Bottas
15. Jules Bianchi
16. Charles PIC
17. Max Chilton
18. Giedo van der Garda
DNF Daniel Ricciardo
DNF Nico Rosberg
DNF Pastor Maldonado
DNF Nico Hulkenberg
Pit Stop Sebastian Vettel
Fast Lap Kimi Räikkönen

shadowstag10 said:So, basically you're saying all that matters is nailing the top 10, and anything else isn't even worth a shot at predicting? 🤷

Exactly. There’s zero point in trying to predict anything—just play the championship normally and I'll grab the results from there. No real "game" happening here. It all just comes down to that alternative scoring system and the fact that I'm the one footing the bill for the prize.🙂🙂

Man, there's zero competition happening here.

asdfg5 said:Man, I am totally with you. Just look at my prediction below—if I’d nailed the top two without unnecessarily throwing Button into the mix, it would've been a flawless top five. Sadly, nobody here actually values calling exact positions. Even worse, I tried pitching a whole new system this summer that rewards precision instead of this stupid 'grouping' nonsense, but it got shot down.

I say we just set it up like this

If you nail first place, you get 25 points, second gets 18, third gets 15, and so on—12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1—basically standard F1 scoring plus an extra 2 points for pole and fastest lap.

Then you tally everything up and rank everyone using that same 25, 18, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1 scale.

AMEN!

It doesn't get any simpler than that.

And honestly, I have zero clue what this grouping thing is or who even came up with it. How can someone who guessed Vettel as the winner be winning, while you—who called the actual winner and someone else ten spots down—get nothing? Meanwhile, I call the winner and third place and don't even score? This system is absolute trash. Just terrible. I seriously don't get what they're even measuring. Probably just randomness. Whoever guesses more random stuff wins.

Jason Campbell70 said:Evidence? ☕

Sure. And you aren't the only one; plenty of F1 fans are saying the exact same thing.

I provided the evidence in my previous post. ☕

Ferrari fanatic. said:Red Bull’s absolutely crushing it—Ferrari’s just sitting there doing nothing, and McLaren’s looking mid at best.

And what the hell is up with this Chevy Astra constantly jumping all over my screen? Absolute disaster — seriously.

Raymond Anderson4 said:Look, Ferrari never tries to pull any smoke and mirrors—if they're struggling in practice, they're gonna struggle in the race. It’s been the same old story for the last 3 or 4 seasons...
Ferrari’s okay in sector two—but they're totally gutless in sectors one and three, which is a pretty bad sign.
Sector 2 is lightning fast—quick turns all around—and Ferrari looks alright there, but they’re bleeding way too much time in the slow and medium stuff.
Same old story as last year—nothing's changed.

Mercedes looks like the easiest ride—RB is right there breathing down their necks... Ferrari’s got way too much understeer, though.

shadowstag10 said:Looks like Ferrari and McLaren basically just swapped places since last year—Mercedes actually stepped it up, while everyone else is just stuck exactly where they were. ☕

swifttiger75 shadowstag10 said:I’m with you—that fine-tuning, that extra tenth of a second per lap, that’s all down to the driver. Honestly, looking back at Schumacher’s era with Ferrari, he’s probably the best example we've seen lately.

I dig the McLaren vibe—and honestly, the driver lineup is pretty likable—but I’ve got a bad feeling they're just gonna be sitting ducks this season.

They’re gonna be faster but way less reliable—so honestly, I'm not expecting anything even remotely spectacular from them to kick off the season.

Ferrari’s got serious horsepower—maybe even two engines worth. Expecting them to actually show up in qualifying this year. If they don't blow up, Red Bull’s gonna have a fight on their hands.

Red Bull just walked in and snatched the trophy right out of everyone else's hands—good luck to the rest of them.

Lotus is looking pretty shaky to me—any rain during qualifying or the race is probably gonna expose how much they're struggling.

Bottom line? I'm still calling it: Ferrari and Red Bull are the ones to watch for both titles. But when it comes to pure aero, Red Bull's got the edge.

and finally this

darkmarlin16 said:With power levels like this, we're gonna cruise to the championship without breaking a sweat.

there you go—just Friday, March 15th, 2013.

you want me to start digging through the history books or what?

Jason Campbell70 said:Well, Christopher, you’ve certainly cracked the code on that one.

Just a month ago, everyone was obsessed with:
- how incredibly gentle the E21 was on its tires
- its impressive race pace
- the supposed inability of the E21 to squeeze out a single qualifying lap

Lotus
Speed: A-
Degradation: A

Over the course of the three days, the Lotus showed superior long-run pace and tire management compared to the rest of the grid. Expect them to be fighting for podiums once we hit Melbourne. Grosjean's race simulations held up beautifully against Webber's and remained remarkably steady.

The primary concerns regarding the E21 remain reliability—given the hiccups Raikkonen faced during the first two days—and a slight deficit in raw single-lap speed against the elite teams. Still, the indicators are highly encouraging, and the team is justified in feeling confident about the upcoming season.

http://formulaoneanalysis.blogspot.c...-22022013.html

It’s almost funny. We could have read all of this right here on this forum.

Up until March 17th around 8:00 AM, this entire board was busy predicting Red Bull would shift the season schedule just like Ferrari did back in '02 and '04.

Then, in a sudden thirty-minute window, everyone suddenly acts shocked by the "miracle." I’ve been saying all winter that Lotus is the one that's going to struggle.

ruggedhawk20 said:Man, I've been saying this for months—that Lotus car is absolute garbage. Just total junk. This year is basically a dead heat between Red Bull and "Lotus."

Look at him right here—on mediums, sitting 0.3 behind Ferrari after grinding out 119 laps, the most of anyone.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap Laps Tyre
1. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m21.875s 97 Soft
2. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber 1m22.160s +0.285 91 Soft
3. Romain Grosjean Lotus 1m22.188s +0.313 119 Medium
4. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m22.611s +0.736 108 Soft
5. Pastor Maldonado Williams 1m22.675s +0.800 79 Soft
6. Valtteri Bottas Williams 1m22.826s +0.951 68 Hard
7. Jenson Button McLaren 1m22.840s +0.965 71 Soft
8. Adrian Sutil Force India 1m22.877s +1.002 78 Soft
9. Mark Webber Red Bull 1m23.024s +1.149 108 Medium
10. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1m23.366s +1.491 106 Soft
11. Max Chilton Marussia 1m25.690s +3.815 58 Soft
12. Giedo van der Garde Caterham 1m26.177s +4.302 93 Soft

And Williams is a disaster. Bottas is nearly a second back on hards.

But hey, that's what I've been preaching. The real surprises this season are "Lotus," Williams, and Sauber at Monza.

The guys at Sauber basically gambled everything to build a car specifically for Monza.

Reminds me of when they were BMW back in 2008. Too bad it rained, otherwise they would've absolutely swept Monza.

ruggedhawk20 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

I think they're alright! Just haven't seen any diapers yet

Samuel Ruiz4 said:Is there any way we could rank these teams based on actual potential, rather than just what they're showing on track? Because some of these guys are definitely hiding their true pace.
Lotus looks like they’ve got a lightning-fast car right now... might actually be outperforming Ferrari and McLaren. Red Bull is playing it smart and holding back, Mercedes is struggling, while Haas and Sauber look solid. I’ve also got a feeling Williams has a sleeper hit on their hands.
1. Red Bull
2. Lotus
3. McLaren
4. Ferrari
5. Williams
6. Mercedes
7. Sauber
8. Haas

just my two cents so far...

Solid call—though if you ask me, Sauber’s outperforming Mercedes, and McLaren is basically neck-and-neck with Ferrari.

stormybadger8 said:I saw Stewart on some random German channel on cable, heard him speaking German, and my brain just swapped him for Lauda... I must've been hammered.🤣

Could've been Christian Danner—or maybe Marc Surer, honestly.

Jerry Rogers6 said:On this forum, certain things are absolutely untouchable, obviously.
When you take a quick peek over the fence, you see these absolute morons—look at them go—clinging to his opinion like it’s gospel. 👎 It’s honestly pathetic. 👎

just go ahead and jump the fence then—hang out with his little fan club and pretend his "brilliant" takes are actually worth something.

stormybadger8 said:
Talk about an absolute, massive, legendary fail.🤣🤣🤣

I still remember seeing Lauda in the paddock before the 2007 US Grand Prix when he loudly proclaimed, "This is Sebastian Vettel—he's going to be a multi-time world champion."☕

So... yeah.😍

That was Jackie Stewart talking—not Niki Lauda.

Jason Campbell70 said:Given how radically different the front suspension on the new MP4-28 is compared to last year's MP4-27, wouldn't you say that a significant portion of the credit actually belongs to the new chassis?

Niki Lauda.
When it comes to the accuracy of these forecasts and analyses, where do they actually stand? Honestly, they’re about on par with Gary Anderson's.
Then again, Gary Anderson actually has a track record. He’s handled car design before and he’s certainly seen some success. Doesn't that count for something?
Did Lauda ever actually get a single prediction right? Not that I can recall. 😁

Please, Lauda is a total joke. A complete clown and a court jester—nobody takes him seriously.

Jerry Rogers6 said:blah, I doubt we'll ever see the same guy again
I'm not so sure the flaws he carries are actually fixable

Mark even mentioned that they should probably introduce an extra starting slot just for him 🤣😁
We'll know if Mark won't pull it off 😳

Lauda was highlighting how good Lotus was all through last season.
Yeah, the same Lauda you claim is constantly talking nonsense and doesn't have a clue about anything.
☕

I don't remember that. Maybe he got mixed up and was actually bashing Caterham, which used to be Lotus

Besides the fact that he was bashing them, there wasn't even much to say about Lotus last year

They only actually made some real progress this year

Amanda Kelly said:Don't even mess around with this team. 🙂

Honestly, Grosjean is just missing that tiny bit of mental composure needed to really dominate. In my opinion, he’s just one step away from greatness, but that last little piece of the puzzle isn't there yet.
He’s definitely got the speed, but he’s missing the reliability and the stability to actually back it up. Everyone else is making strides right now, so I don't see why he couldn't catch up too.
Honestly, I’m starting to fear the Lotus more than the McLaren.

Man, I've been saying this for months—that Lotus car is absolute garbage. Just total junk. This year is basically a dead heat between Red Bull and "Lotus."

Look at him right here—on mediums, sitting 0.3 behind Ferrari after grinding out 119 laps, the most of anyone.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap Laps Tyre
1. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m21.875s 97 Soft
2. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber 1m22.160s +0.285 91 Soft
3. Romain Grosjean Lotus 1m22.188s +0.313 119 Medium
4. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m22.611s +0.736 108 Soft
5. Pastor Maldonado Williams 1m22.675s +0.800 79 Soft
6. Valtteri Bottas Williams 1m22.826s +0.951 68 Hard
7. Jenson Button McLaren 1m22.840s +0.965 71 Soft
8. Adrian Sutil Force India 1m22.877s +1.002 78 Soft
9. Mark Webber Red Bull 1m23.024s +1.149 108 Medium
10. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1m23.366s +1.491 106 Soft
11. Max Chilton Marussia 1m25.690s +3.815 58 Soft
12. Giedo van der Garde Caterham 1m26.177s +4.302 93 Soft

And Williams is a disaster. Bottas is nearly a second back on hards.

But hey, that's what I've been preaching. The real surprises this season are "Lotus," Williams, and Sauber at Monza.

The guys at Sauber basically gambled everything to build a car specifically for Monza.

Reminds me of when they were BMW back in 2008. Too bad it rained, otherwise they would've absolutely swept Monza.