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Evil Mother's moderation on the FBI forum in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Justin Foster45 said:I agree with you. USA Today is open specifically for these kinds of topics—things that stir up the public for a few days before fading away. The idea was to "lighten the load" on Gossip. Of course, people still rush to post everywhere, and I can't be on the forum 24/7. So unfortunately, the same topic develops in two places, and if I merge them, the posts get all tangled because they were being written simultaneously, creating a total mess.
Regarding the clinic, I figured the discussion on Gossip would just die out on its own, so I decided to let it be.

I have to correct you there, but the point of a moderator in the Chicken Coop isn't to weigh evidence or decide who's telling the truth. My job is to keep the tone civil and handle technical issues.

Do you honestly think I should be the one deciding if someone is on team Andre Agassi or team Milan, whether Šuputič's husband has a kid, or if the woman from ENI had Milanović's child? And then only allow "the right people" to post based on that?

This is a forum. The name literally tells you—it's for discussion.

As for Jacko—I didn't message you as a moderator, nor did I insult you. I simply repeated what you had already said.

Fair enough. You can't be online 24 hours a day. No one expects that from you. I suppose what would be ideal is for you moderators—and I notice there are about four of you on ZK and Chicken Coop right now—to coordinate how you handle moderation.

The strategy of allowing absolutely everything (unless someone happens to report it) is exactly why discussions are happening everywhere without any real criteria.

Right now, for instance, I’m reading a mountain of posts from self-proclaimed champions of children's rights, while at the same time, the platform allows—and even encourages—people to drag and mock kids whose photos their parents posted online. It's fascinating, in a way.

Justin Foster45 said:I agree with you. USA Today is open specifically for these kinds of topics—things that stir up the public for a few days before fading away. The idea was to "lighten the load" on Gossip. Of course, people still rush to post everywhere, and I can't be on the forum 24/7. So unfortunately, the same topic develops in two places, and if I merge them, the posts get all tangled because they were being written simultaneously, creating a total mess.
Regarding the clinic, I figured the discussion on Gossip would just die out on its own, so I decided to let it be.

I have to correct you there, but the point of a moderator in the Chicken Coop isn't to weigh evidence or decide who's telling the truth. My job is to keep the tone civil and handle technical issues.

Do you honestly think I should be the one deciding if someone is on team Andre Agassi or team Milan, whether Šuputič's husband has a kid, or if the woman from ENI had Milanović's child? And then only allow "the right people" to post based on that?

This is a forum. The name literally tells you—it's for discussion.

As for Jacko—I didn't message you as a moderator, nor did I insult you. I simply repeated what you had already said.

Actually, you did insult me. By repeating those comments, you were building on a string of equally offensive remarks from other users that imply I'm such a lowlife that I could actually take that girl's flirtatious behavior seriously.

Even though it was pretty clear I didn't mean it literally, but was just being sarcastic in response to that absurd comment left by Sandy.

That counts as an insult.
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Evil Mother's moderation on the FBI forum in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Edward Fisher86 said:Good grief, I am trying to make it clear that this isn't about personal values, it’s about cold, hard facts..

Amanda Hughes37 is over-explaining things so much that you just can't follow her logic.

Essentially, the woman was pointing out a misinterpretation because... well, "a certain figure" refers to square footage.

Forget about what number we're talking about or whose property it actually is for a second; that is completely and utterly irrelevant right now.

Instead, everyone jumped down her throat claiming those weren't squares because blah blah blah.

So she tried explaining once more that "this specific number" represents the square footage, only for them to tell her she needs psychiatric help.

Honestly, Amanda Hughes37 wasn't trolling; it's a miracle they didn't convince her otherwise, given all the talk about lack of education, hacked profiles, psychiatrists, and general idiots.

(And there is still a very real possibility that her assessment of who owns what was actually spot on LOL)

Look, I'm staying out of this from now on, but I can't sit here and watch this nonsense, especially since some people have already seen....

Oh, for goodness' sake...

Look, I’ll explain it to you, because if I have to go one more round trying to make sense to Katherine, I might actually end up on drugs.

I'll try to keep this as simple as possible.

Imagine you have a sister. Both of you share the same mother. Your mother owns a single-story house that covers 100 square feet—basically, the ground floor and the upper level are 50 square feet each. She holds the title outright, 1/1 or 100/100, whatever terminology you prefer. According to the property deed: "The specific deposit belongs to Malčica's mother, owner." 1/1 "The house at this specific address, identified by plot number X, consisting of a ground floor and a second story with a total area of 1,100 square feet." At some point, Malčica's mother passes away because... biology. After the probate process is settled, you and Malčica's sister end up as co-owners, each holding a 1/2 interest in the entire property. It’s not that you each own a separate 550-square-foot chunk; rather, you both hold a half-share of the whole 1,100 square feet. So, on the deed, it now reads: "Edward Fisher86, owner..." 1/2 There are houses around 1,000 square feet at that address; owned by Malčica's sister. 1/2 "Houses at 100 square feet on that specific address." You could write it as 50/100 or 25/50; I suppose it doesn't really matter. The point is, neither of you owns a specific 50-square-foot chunk of the house. Instead, you both hold a fifty-percent stake in the entire 100 square feet.

Look, you two sisters might be on the same page right now, but if you’re thinking about future generations, you really ought to formalize the ownership of that house. Biology eventually catches up with everyone, I guess. The process is pretty straightforward: you hire an engineer to draft a condo map. You pay them a decent amount, and they produce a document stating that the family home at this specific address consists of two units. For example, Floor A-1 is a 50-square-foot ground floor unit with a bedroom, kitchen, and bathroom, and Floor B-1 is a 50-square-foot second floor unit with the same layout. Once you have that map and the private agreement you've made between yourselves regarding ownership, you take everything down to the county recorder's office. After about 60 days, the official records will reflect the update, listing Edward Fisher86 as the owner. 1/1 Level A-1, consisting of a 540 sq. ft. ground-floor apartment located at [Address], comprising a bedroom, kitchen, and bathroom; per FBI filing [Number], owned by Edward Fisher86. 1/1 "Basement level B-1, consisting of a 50-square-meter unit on the first floor of a single-family home at this specific address, comprising one bedroom, a kitchen, and a bathroom." So, there you have it—both of them are exclusive owners of their own respective fifty square meters.

Katherine doesn't seem to grasp that the whole situation regarding point two in Thompson's case didn't actually happen. Just because the property deed shows he owns three hundred and some change—I'm not going to go digging through the records again—doesn't mean he owns specific square footage. That number just represents his ownership share. Unless the deed explicitly states: "Marko Perković, owner of floor G-8, totaling three hundred-plus square feet, specifically defined as the rooftop terrace at this address, consisting of grass, lawns, small rabbits, and turtles," then Marko Perković isn't the owner of those three hundred square feet of that damn terrace. It’s not going to happen until the residents reach an agreement or until a court issues a final ruling based on a lawsuit that gets recorded in the official registry. Since they're still arguing and fighting over it, Marko Perković simply does not own that rooftop terrace.

It’s worth noting that even if, or perhaps when, Thompson becomes the sole 1/1 owner of the terrace, he still wouldn't be allowed to block emergency access to it.
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Evil Mother's moderation on the FBI forum in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Amanda Hughes37 said:If justice actually existed, you wouldn't even be posting on the FBI forums anymore. One of those mobs—that’s the only word for them—spent days trying to convince me I was mentally unstable or intellectually deficient just because my facts didn't suit their narrative. Of course, I provided arguments and evidence; I was right. But once that became undeniable, they just kept whining about how "boring" I was being by sticking to the topic. How lovely. As if I were the one who started it.

The moderator publicly stated she felt bad that I felt attacked, yet claimed it was my own fault for persisting after being "given explanations."
No... I was the one providing the explanation, not the group attacking me.

And then I got hit with a ban, along with some lecture about how I write too much and "need to take a break."

Honestly, I can't believe someone like you has the nerve to moralize anything on this forum. You are nothing more than a bottom-tier internet bully—and you get away with it because the moderation at the FBI lacks both the will and the desire to actually figure out who is right and who is systematically harassing whom. They ignore the difference between bullies and people making documented, reasoned posts... posts that, quite frankly, match the official rulings and reports now being published by the courts and major news outlets.

Justice is always hard to come by right when you actually need it, isn't it? 😢

Amanda Hughes37 said:If justice actually existed, you wouldn't even be posting on the FBI forums anymore. One of those mobs—that’s the only word for them—spent days trying to convince me I was mentally unstable or intellectually deficient just because my facts didn't suit their narrative. Of course, I provided arguments and evidence; I was right. But once that became undeniable, they just kept whining about how "boring" I was being by sticking to the topic. How lovely. As if I were the one who started it.

The moderator publicly stated she felt bad that I felt attacked, yet claimed it was my own fault for persisting after being "given explanations."
No... I was the one providing the explanation, not the group attacking me.

And then I got hit with a ban, along with some lecture about how I write too much and "need to take a break."

Honestly, I can't believe someone like you has the nerve to moralize anything on this forum. You are nothing more than a bottom-tier internet bully—and you get away with it because the moderation at the FBI lacks both the will and the desire to actually figure out who is right and who is systematically harassing whom. They ignore the difference between bullies and people making documented, reasoned posts... posts that, quite frankly, match the official rulings and reports now being published by the courts and major news outlets.

No, you're mistaken. We weren't trying to say you were mentally ill; we were simply pointing out that you were wrong—which you were then, and still are. I suppose the sheer persistence you showed while trying to prove otherwise is exactly why we concluded there might be some intellectual shortcomings there. I still feel that way, honestly.

Amanda Hughes37 said:If justice actually existed, you wouldn't even be posting on the FBI forums anymore. One of those mobs—that’s the only word for them—spent days trying to convince me I was mentally unstable or intellectually deficient just because my facts didn't suit their narrative. Of course, I provided arguments and evidence; I was right. But once that became undeniable, they just kept whining about how "boring" I was being by sticking to the topic. How lovely. As if I were the one who started it.

The moderator publicly stated she felt bad that I felt attacked, yet claimed it was my own fault for persisting after being "given explanations."
No... I was the one providing the explanation, not the group attacking me.

And then I got hit with a ban, along with some lecture about how I write too much and "need to take a break."

Honestly, I can't believe someone like you has the nerve to moralize anything on this forum. You are nothing more than a bottom-tier internet bully—and you get away with it because the moderation at the FBI lacks both the will and the desire to actually figure out who is right and who is systematically harassing whom. They ignore the difference between bullies and people making documented, reasoned posts... posts that, quite frankly, match the official rulings and reports now being published by the courts and major news outlets.

You weren't. You couldn't have been, because you weren't right. And honestly, you aren't right now either.

Amanda Hughes37 said:If justice actually existed, you wouldn't even be posting on the FBI forums anymore. One of those mobs—that’s the only word for them—spent days trying to convince me I was mentally unstable or intellectually deficient just because my facts didn't suit their narrative. Of course, I provided arguments and evidence; I was right. But once that became undeniable, they just kept whining about how "boring" I was being by sticking to the topic. How lovely. As if I were the one who started it.

The moderator publicly stated she felt bad that I felt attacked, yet claimed it was my own fault for persisting after being "given explanations."
No... I was the one providing the explanation, not the group attacking me.

And then I got hit with a ban, along with some lecture about how I write too much and "need to take a break."

Honestly, I can't believe someone like you has the nerve to moralize anything on this forum. You are nothing more than a bottom-tier internet bully—and you get away with it because the moderation at the FBI lacks both the will and the desire to actually figure out who is right and who is systematically harassing whom. They ignore the difference between bullies and people making documented, reasoned posts... posts that, quite frankly, match the official rulings and reports now being published by the courts and major news outlets.

No. You were just digging your heels in. Everyone else tried to point out where you were going wrong, but I guess people eventually reached their limit with how stubbornly you refused to see the flaws in your logic. They didn't have much choice left but to either ignore you or call you incompetent. It was pretty much the only option left.

Amanda Hughes37 said:If justice actually existed, you wouldn't even be posting on the FBI forums anymore. One of those mobs—that’s the only word for them—spent days trying to convince me I was mentally unstable or intellectually deficient just because my facts didn't suit their narrative. Of course, I provided arguments and evidence; I was right. But once that became undeniable, they just kept whining about how "boring" I was being by sticking to the topic. How lovely. As if I were the one who started it.

The moderator publicly stated she felt bad that I felt attacked, yet claimed it was my own fault for persisting after being "given explanations."
No... I was the one providing the explanation, not the group attacking me.

And then I got hit with a ban, along with some lecture about how I write too much and "need to take a break."

Honestly, I can't believe someone like you has the nerve to moralize anything on this forum. You are nothing more than a bottom-tier internet bully—and you get away with it because the moderation at the FBI lacks both the will and the desire to actually figure out who is right and who is systematically harassing whom. They ignore the difference between bullies and people making documented, reasoned posts... posts that, quite frankly, match the official rulings and reports now being published by the courts and major news outlets.

Well. Just another thing I can't quite wrap my head around.

Amanda Hughes37 said:If justice actually existed, you wouldn't even be posting on the FBI forums anymore. One of those mobs—that’s the only word for them—spent days trying to convince me I was mentally unstable or intellectually deficient just because my facts didn't suit their narrative. Of course, I provided arguments and evidence; I was right. But once that became undeniable, they just kept whining about how "boring" I was being by sticking to the topic. How lovely. As if I were the one who started it.

The moderator publicly stated she felt bad that I felt attacked, yet claimed it was my own fault for persisting after being "given explanations."
No... I was the one providing the explanation, not the group attacking me.

And then I got hit with a ban, along with some lecture about how I write too much and "need to take a break."

Honestly, I can't believe someone like you has the nerve to moralize anything on this forum. You are nothing more than a bottom-tier internet bully—and you get away with it because the moderation at the FBI lacks both the will and the desire to actually figure out who is right and who is systematically harassing whom. They ignore the difference between bullies and people making documented, reasoned posts... posts that, quite frankly, match the official rulings and reports now being published by the courts and major news outlets.

Thanks.

I might actually have to start keeping a log of the insults I get on here. There are some interesting examples.

Amanda Hughes37 said:If justice actually existed, you wouldn't even be posting on the FBI forums anymore. One of those mobs—that’s the only word for them—spent days trying to convince me I was mentally unstable or intellectually deficient just because my facts didn't suit their narrative. Of course, I provided arguments and evidence; I was right. But once that became undeniable, they just kept whining about how "boring" I was being by sticking to the topic. How lovely. As if I were the one who started it.

The moderator publicly stated she felt bad that I felt attacked, yet claimed it was my own fault for persisting after being "given explanations."
No... I was the one providing the explanation, not the group attacking me.

And then I got hit with a ban, along with some lecture about how I write too much and "need to take a break."

Honestly, I can't believe someone like you has the nerve to moralize anything on this forum. You are nothing more than a bottom-tier internet bully—and you get away with it because the moderation at the FBI lacks both the will and the desire to actually figure out who is right and who is systematically harassing whom. They ignore the difference between bullies and people making documented, reasoned posts... posts that, quite frankly, match the official rulings and reports now being published by the courts and major news outlets.

But you're still wrong. I guess that's just how life goes.

Again, I’d appreciate it if we could move the focus away from me (though I sincerely thank you for yet another insult) and discuss the moderation on the FBI.
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Evil Mother's moderation on the FBI forum in Feedback & Suggestions ·
So, speaking of moderation, here’s a current example...

Right now, over on one of the Chicken Coop threads, there's a discussion about a child suicide and what role the parents played in it. Honestly, it's like people think a parent who goes through something like that won't spend every single morning for the rest of their life wondering if they could have done something differently, or if they're somehow responsible for their child taking their own life. As if they won't question their own actions ten billion times over. No! Apparently, what they really need is a bunch of rude anonymous internet users—people who don't have the slightest clue about their actual lives beyond their own projections and some second-hand info—to lecture them and debate whether they were good parents or how they caused their own child's death. It's just absolute nonsense.

When this kind of thing was breaking a few years ago on Trac, I was being shamelessly insensitive and talking trash until the chickens finally shut up. But no. Here we go again. Let's get back to dissecting everything the parents did wrong.

* And yes, I'm using the word "chickens," because if you're callous enough to discuss a topic like this in such a way, then calling you a "chicken" is actually a compliment compared to what you deserve.
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Evil Mother's moderation on the FBI forum in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Edward Fisher86 said:I apologize for hijacking this thread, but honestly, they really ought to work on separating topics once it becomes obvious that a discussion has gained momentum and there's genuine interest.

They should have done that with the issue regarding Thompson's roof, and now they're doing it again with the clinic.

Walking through Trac, USA Today, Trac, USA Today... you can't even tell what you're writing anymore; it makes zero sense. It's a shame.

(And I know it isn't just because of Justin Foster45)

You aren't hijacking anything. We're discussing the moderation over at the women's corner.
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Evil Mother's moderation on the FBI forum in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Christian Howard2 said:Justin Foster45 doesn't moderate the FBI, and honestly, what she wrote to you was just her speaking as a regular forum user.
I don't see how she insulted you, especially when you’re pointing to this post where you call her a chicken with no common sense.
Why didn't you link the specific post where Justin Foster45 supposedly insulted you? I’m looking, but I can't find it anywhere.🤷

As for her misinterpreting your post, from everything I've read in the thread, most people felt the exact same way.🤷>
You have to face the fact that the impression you leave with your posts isn't always the one you intended to make.

Now, look, I don't moderate threads over at the Chicken Coop, but regarding your ban, it's completely fair because you were totally trolling the discussions there.
You showed up to lecture influencers about how forum users write, rather than actually talking about the influencers themselves, which was the whole point.
If you find something questionable in their posts, just hit the report button and move on. If you don't like the vibe, stop reading the thread.

I linked my reaction, which includes her specific reply.

It's insulting to me that she suggested I might actually view that girl as some sort of flirt.

A lot of others repeated that insult before her. Honestly, I'd had enough of her. That's why I reacted.

Christian Howard2 said:Justin Foster45 doesn't moderate the FBI, and honestly, what she wrote to you was just her speaking as a regular forum user.
I don't see how she insulted you, especially when you’re pointing to this post where you call her a chicken with no common sense.
Why didn't you link the specific post where Justin Foster45 supposedly insulted you? I’m looking, but I can't find it anywhere.🤷

As for her misinterpreting your post, from everything I've read in the thread, most people felt the exact same way.🤷>
You have to face the fact that the impression you leave with your posts isn't always the one you intended to make.

Now, look, I don't moderate threads over at the Chicken Coop, but regarding your ban, it's completely fair because you were totally trolling the discussions there.
You showed up to lecture influencers about how forum users write, rather than actually talking about the influencers themselves, which was the whole point.
If you find something questionable in their posts, just hit the report button and move on. If you don't like the vibe, stop reading the thread.

That’s why there was—and always will be—a follow-up discussion. But the follow-up turned into personal attacks against me. It probably would have kept going if I hadn't finally spoken up.

I could say I spent several times trying to patiently explain what was going on and why I posted that photo. A few people got it, but most just kept insulting me. That included the moderator.

Christian Howard2 said:Justin Foster45 doesn't moderate the FBI, and honestly, what she wrote to you was just her speaking as a regular forum user.
I don't see how she insulted you, especially when you’re pointing to this post where you call her a chicken with no common sense.
Why didn't you link the specific post where Justin Foster45 supposedly insulted you? I’m looking, but I can't find it anywhere.🤷

As for her misinterpreting your post, from everything I've read in the thread, most people felt the exact same way.🤷>
You have to face the fact that the impression you leave with your posts isn't always the one you intended to make.

Now, look, I don't moderate threads over at the Chicken Coop, but regarding your ban, it's completely fair because you were totally trolling the discussions there.
You showed up to lecture influencers about how forum users write, rather than actually talking about the influencers themselves, which was the whole point.
If you find something questionable in their posts, just hit the report button and move on. If you don't like the vibe, stop reading the thread.

I wasn't. I'm not trolling.

Christian Howard2 said:Justin Foster45 doesn't moderate the FBI, and honestly, what she wrote to you was just her speaking as a regular forum user.
I don't see how she insulted you, especially when you’re pointing to this post where you call her a chicken with no common sense.
Why didn't you link the specific post where Justin Foster45 supposedly insulted you? I’m looking, but I can't find it anywhere.🤷

As for her misinterpreting your post, from everything I've read in the thread, most people felt the exact same way.🤷>
You have to face the fact that the impression you leave with your posts isn't always the one you intended to make.

Now, look, I don't moderate threads over at the Chicken Coop, but regarding your ban, it's completely fair because you were totally trolling the discussions there.
You showed up to lecture influencers about how forum users write, rather than actually talking about the influencers themselves, which was the whole point.
If you find something questionable in their posts, just hit the report button and move on. If you don't like the vibe, stop reading the thread.

I didn't. Where are you getting that from? I have never once left a single comment on an influencer's page in my life. Why make things up like that?

Christian Howard2 said:Justin Foster45 doesn't moderate the FBI, and honestly, what she wrote to you was just her speaking as a regular forum user.
I don't see how she insulted you, especially when you’re pointing to this post where you call her a chicken with no common sense.
Why didn't you link the specific post where Justin Foster45 supposedly insulted you? I’m looking, but I can't find it anywhere.🤷

As for her misinterpreting your post, from everything I've read in the thread, most people felt the exact same way.🤷>
You have to face the fact that the impression you leave with your posts isn't always the one you intended to make.

Now, look, I don't moderate threads over at the Chicken Coop, but regarding your ban, it's completely fair because you were totally trolling the discussions there.
You showed up to lecture influencers about how forum users write, rather than actually talking about the influencers themselves, which was the whole point.
If you find something questionable in their posts, just hit the report button and move on. If you don't like the vibe, stop reading the thread.

I don't usually report posts. As you can see, I haven't done so now, either. I have pretty thick skin, so I can handle plenty of insults, bullying, being called names, and all sorts of other nonsense I've seen there—though I probably missed some because I just skip over certain users. I also don't have much interest in tattling, and given the atmosphere there, I doubt it would do any good anyway. What's the point of reporting posts when the moderation is automatically on the side of those doing the insulting?

If you guys, after three years of seeing these threads about influencers, haven't realized that mocking the photos of children (and others) online is disgusting, what kind of reaction am I even supposed to expect if I do report a post? Or are you going to pretend you've never seen anything and that everything there is just idyllic?

If my memory serves, this kind of behavior existed long before the influencers. I think there were those "picture books" or something similar where people were also tearing apart the appearance of other people's babies and kids.

Ultimately, from the way you write here, I get a very clear sense of the administrator's stance on the situation at the FBI. You clearly believe everything there is fine and nothing needs to change.

And, by the way, arguing with moderators via private messages never yields results.

When things truly become too much, I use other available tools. Like opening this thread.

Christian Howard2 said:Justin Foster45 doesn't moderate the FBI, and honestly, what she wrote to you was just her speaking as a regular forum user.
I don't see how she insulted you, especially when you’re pointing to this post where you call her a chicken with no common sense.
Why didn't you link the specific post where Justin Foster45 supposedly insulted you? I’m looking, but I can't find it anywhere.🤷

As for her misinterpreting your post, from everything I've read in the thread, most people felt the exact same way.🤷>
You have to face the fact that the impression you leave with your posts isn't always the one you intended to make.

Now, look, I don't moderate threads over at the Chicken Coop, but regarding your ban, it's completely fair because you were totally trolling the discussions there.
You showed up to lecture influencers about how forum users write, rather than actually talking about the influencers themselves, which was the whole point.
If you find something questionable in their posts, just hit the report button and move on. If you don't like the vibe, stop reading the thread.

I don't read the thread. I have zero interest in what's being written there. I just took a glance here and there, and if it weren't for the blatant sadism and enjoyment of putting others down on almost every single page, it might not even bother me. The problem is that this behavior has spilled over into other threads precisely because things aren't moderated there; instead, everything is just debated everywhere.

That's why I made the objection.

And, just so we can continue this discussion, I'd appreciate it if we focused on the moderation at the FBI rather than on me. I'm just a side character here.

* A trivial example is this exact case that started yesterday when I posted that photo. I knew I had left a post a few days ago about how Facebook research showed the harm of social media, but I first had to go hunting for where I'd left it just so it would be in the same thread. Though neither of these really fall into the category of classic posts like we used to see on Mystery.
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Evil Mother's moderation on the FBI forum in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Mark Robinson said:Yeah, I mean, I’m just saying—looking at this latest example—she was basically just talking to you like any other random person on a message board, since she doesn't actually have any authority on the subject or anything.

That’s true. But when a bunch of random users start insulting and calling you out for something you didn't even do—and then a moderator, someone you'd expect to at least pay closer attention to the conversation, does the exact same thing—it can be a bit frustrating.

It is what it is. I guess we all have our limits.

(Though I still maintain that the moderation on the FBI and Chicken Coop is subpar. From the constant mixing of topics and debates to the kind of stuff allowed on those influencer pages, and how everything gets blurred together everywhere else.)
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Evil Mother's moderation on the FBI forum in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Mark Robinson said:You're missing one detail—Justin Foster45 isn't actually a moderator on the main site..

I didn't overlook it. The FBI includes the Chicken Coop too. It’s been such a mess there over the last few weeks that you can barely tell which topic is being discussed where. A little bit here on the Chicken Coop, a little bit there on the FBI. (I mean, if everything is allowed everywhere and it's all the same, what's actually the point of having separate subforums and topics?)

Besides, she had to get her act together somehow. Her moderating at the Chicken Coop isn't isolated from how she behaves on the FBI.

The reason I reacted just now is simply because I reached my limit, which is why I decided to start this thread.
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Evil Mother's moderation on the FBI forum in Feedback & Suggestions ·
I think it’s about time the administration took a closer look at the moderator Justin Foster45 over on the FBI forums.

I realize you’re short-staffed on moderators and could probably use all the help you can get, but her blatant malice during discussions is starting to cross a line. I really believe someone needs to address this.

The latest instance, which honestly got under my skin enough to make me speak up, was how she completely twisted my words just to have an excuse to insult me.

If you actually follow the thread, it’s incredibly obvious that I didn't say what she claims I said.

When random users insult me, I don't mind much. But when moderators do it—acting so flippantly without actually reading or understanding the context (or perhaps intentionally ignoring the point of the debate, which is arguably worse)—that’s a different story. I understand there’s a distinction between being a regular user and being a moderator, and that mods are allowed to participate in debates like everyone else, but I highly doubt it's truly possible to keep those two roles entirely separate.

A while back, I already raised concerns about her habit of handing out bans and labeling people as trolls. Unfortunately, her personal grudge against me has only intensified.

A few weeks ago, I pushed back against the mocking and insulting of children on certain threads on the FBI boards. In response, a group of women, including Justin Foster45, mocked me, called me a "moralizer," and tried to convince me that it’s perfectly fine—to go around calling out and insulting kids whose photos are posted online.

For some reason, that kind of behavior has become accepted as normal on the FBI forums. Personally, I don't think it's right, and it shouldn't be.

On top of that, aside from this specific incident, the FBI forums have turned into a mess of endless, disorganized threads about everything under the sun. That's just how moderation is going lately. If a moderator's role is to insult people rather than actually moderate, then you probably don't need them there in the first place.
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John Doe - Zlee's Mom - Moderation in Feedback & Suggestions ·
hollowmason64 said:Look, let's get one thing straight—I am not being difficult. I already mentioned that I’ve never actually complained about the cardboard packaging before. Honestly, I haven't even complained about yours, even though I sent you a pretty direct message in your inbox explaining exactly where I stood on them.
I don't really bother arguing with the mods about bans or warnings. I already touched on my reasons for that in my very first post, but honestly, it just feels like a losing battle. One day you get hit with a penalty, the next time you slide by unnoticed, and everything seems fine. At the end of the day, this is just an online forum. It’s not like someone is going to show up at my house in Chicago and beat me over the head with a ruler because of some digital slap on the wrist. There's no physical danger here, so there's really no point in fighting to "defend" myself. Besides, every moderator seems to have their own version of the rules anyway, so you can explain yourself all you want, but you're probably just talking to a brick wall.
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you’ve got a perfectly valid excuse ready to go for everything, but since you asked, I’d actually be really curious to hear your take on that last thing.
I was thinking it might be fun to dive into why you felt like that was directed at you and why it hit such a nerve.

Look, I honestly don't care how many warnings or bans you're handing out to people, and frankly, that’s the kind of answer you're going to get from every single moderator on this site. At the end of the day, what happens with someone else's disciplinary record isn't your business.
At least try to be consistent for once instead of making excuses like, "Oh, look at how much I gave her..."
I can only tell you this much—and it’s an easily verifiable fact: in all the ten years or more I've been hanging around this Gossip thread, I don't think anyone has ever been shut down or kicked out quite as fast as you were. It’s pretty unprecedented, really.
It’s pretty wild to think about—you’ve managed to rack up four bans and 160 penalty points on me in just about two months of posting.
I mean, looking back at the last ten years and all those dozens of mods who have come and gone... I’ve definitely had some run-ins with people where things got pretty messy. I remember dealing with Tupelo once, and honestly, nobody has ever shut me down quite like that. It was so blunt and happened so fast. When you get ghosted or dismissed that hard after such a short interaction, it really feels like one thing—it feels like you were just targeted.

Regarding the whole situation about removing you from the moderation team—honestly, I don't really have a horse in this race. It doesn't affect my life one way or another, and I truly don't care who ends up holding the reins. To me, it’s all pretty much the same.
What I’m really getting at is that I want you to just... lose it a little bit. Go off the rails. Get a little "unhinged."
Look, that PDF was around long before you showed up, and it’ll still be here long after you're gone. Same goes for this thread. Just like every other moderator who held down the fort before you, you're expected to respect the rules we all agreed on years ago and maintain the same style of communication we've used with each other all this time.
Look, I don't think you were brought on as a moderator just because we’re all being difficult and need someone to clean up our communication style. Honestly, if that were the case, they would have handled things differently. It feels more like you were stepped into this role simply because someone else moved on, and they needed a steady hand to fill the gap.
Look, you really need to stop killing the PDF uploads and sanitizing the thread just because something doesn't sit right with you. If the rest of us aren't having any issues when we're calling each other idiots or getting heated and talking trash during a debate, then you definitely shouldn't be stepping in to police it either.
We always managed to find our way back to the line and just settle down together.
Look, if you’re planning on actually respecting—I’m struggling to find a better way to put this, honestly—the way we all used to communicate and handle things before you showed up, then I don't really have an issue with you staying on as a moderator.
Look, if you’re going to keep jumping down my throat like this... honestly, I don't have the energy to go back and forth with you anymore, whether it's here or anywhere else. I've got much more important and interesting things to do with my life. I'm heading off to finish up some paperwork on my laptop, so you can stay here and deal with those few people who actually enjoy your attitude. Have fun talking to them; I'll be back once you've moved on.

And just one last thing—it’s actually pretty wild how you can clearly see how much you blew me off, yet there isn't a single moment where it crosses your mind to think, "Hey, maybe I went a little too far."

Better sign those prenuptial ☕

I honestly never understood that whole reporting culture... you show up to an argument, realize you don't like the vibe, and then just hit the report button.🙄
If I don't like the tone of a conversation, I just move on...

Ah, so I guess I passed the test 🤣

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John Doe - Zlee's Mom - Moderation in Feedback & Suggestions ·
hollowmason64 said:My bad, I didn't mean to mess up your handle, but I can't change it anymore. If you or anyone else could fix it, that would be great...

As for this whole thing about being the worst moderator... honestly, is reading comprehension really that much of a struggle for some people?
Look, I’ll admit, I definitely made a bit of a scene there—it wasn't my intention, I swear.😬
..but I never actually wrote anywhere that Zlee was the worst moderator.
What I actually said was that she's just like those other divas who used to pop up on John Doe’s moderation team, acting like they could reshape the entire forum to fit their specific whims and ditching anything they didn't personally like.
The forum stayed exactly how it was; those divas just moved on.

And don't even get me started on how she basically targeted me for reasons known only to her.
We've had an agreement for light moderation on this board for ten years now, yet she's constantly running around handing out bans, splitting threads because they're "off"🤦 and rearranging everything to suit her own agenda—as if we're all just here to give her someone to ban or someone to reorganize posts for.

Cut the crap.

A huge chunk of the regular posters vanished today too. I find it hard to believe they all left just because the subforum stayed the same and they got bored.

Just as an example—a while back, I dug through those old threads. Even you were somewhat civil back then. Nowadays, reading you is a chore. But whatever. I don't really care about your take. The point is that a whole crowd of people who used to post there and in other threads have stopped showing up. Why? Because they were all "wild" and you're the only normal one left? How yes no. ☕

The reality is that the subforum actually did change. There used to be actual topics and thematic discussions. On top of that, there were a few dedicated chat threads.

Now, everyone is just talking about everything. It's just constant chatting everywhere.
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John Doe - Zlee's Mom - Moderation in Feedback & Suggestions ·
hollowmason64 said:I honestly don't even know where to start with this, but I'll give you the short version—I am completely fed up with Zlee and her moderation. I’m just totally over how she runs things over at John Doe and the way she keeps personally targeting me.
Alright, now that we’ve finally settled on the reasoning behind why we broke everything down like that:

Look, everything the entire admin team and all those mods who banned me already know—and honestly? I’m not even going to sit here and complain about getting banned. It is what it is.
Whether I agree with them or not isn't really my main concern. Honestly, I don't spend much time complaining about it because I get that sometimes you just catch a bad break. One day the call goes your way, the next day it doesn't. It’s like when you’re watching a game and someone makes a clear play that should be a penalty, but the ref lets it slide—and then later, they call a foul on a totally clean move. You just have to accept that there's a certain kind of cosmic balance at play. Everything eventually levels out. 😁
At the end of the day, this is just a damn forum—a place to hang out, debate stuff, and basically just socialize. I really don't feel like wasting my time or ruining the vibe of this space by getting into petty arguments over some cardboard.
And just to be crystal clear—this isn't some petty complaint about someone getting a card or a ban. It’s really more about the way this mod is actually handling things and how they conduct themselves on the job.

I haven't even bothered complaining about those boxes from Zlee... honestly, I just couldn't care less about her or her packaging. Especially those first few shipments.
Just so everyone can get a clear picture of what I’m actually talking about, I figured I should show you the nonsense my wife has been throwing at me lately:

12.04. Cardboard. Insulting other forum members - 45 points

30.04. Cardboard. Rule violation—that's a 25-point deduction.

02.09. Cardboard. Insulting other forum members - 45 points

04.09. Cardboard. Insulting other forum members - 45 points

It looks like there’s more than one version floating around—they've got stuff from her and some from the Cats too. It's like two of the exact same thing just showed up at once.

I figured I’d just put these out there so everyone can see exactly why I ended up getting flagged for "insults." Honestly, I mostly wanted to show how some woman just keeps coming at me out of nowhere—it feels like she’s got some personal vendetta against me that nobody else even understands.
So, my wife managed to rack up four full boxes of points in just five months—that's 160 points total—all thanks to my constant posting over on John Doe.
So, after that red card on April 30th, I honestly just lost my cool. I ended up snapping at her, telling her she needs to go find somewhere else to work through her frustrations, and then I just walked away. I haven't typed a single word on John Doe or Gossip for months now.
Just to clear things up regarding why there’s such a massive gap in her posting history during that period—I haven't actually written a single post on that moderation board in months.
It looks like she was a bit distracted by her summer vacation, which I suppose makes sense, but the second she got back to reality, she immediately started getting under my skin again. It’s like she didn't even need a transition period; one minute she's relaxing, and the next, she's right back to being a total headache.

Look, let's get one thing straight—I’m not about to deny Zlee her right to think I'm an idiot, a nuisance, or just plain simple-minded. She can wrap her head around whatever version of me she wants; honestly, she's more than entitled to her own opinion.
Honestly, why should I even care what she thinks of me? It’s really not my problem.
Look, I’m not really here to post for the sake of posting. The way I write and the stuff I share—it's not about performing for an audience. Honestly, if I were trying to impress her, or someone like her, I'd be acting a lot different. But truth be told? I couldn't care less if she likes me or falls for me or whatever. It just doesn't move the needle for me.
Honestly, they’re just a non-factor in my life. Not even worth a second thought.
Until they start jumping down my throat.
Look, if Zlee is having a hard time separating her own personal likes and dislikes from her actual moderation duties, then she really shouldn't be stepping up to do the job. It’s just not fair to anyone else. And honestly, if she only decided to take on a moderator role because she thought it would give her some kind of status or make her feel important, then those are pretty shaky motivations to start with.

I mostly spend my time over on the politics boards, where it’s basically constant warfare over different topics every single day. Because things can spiral out of control in a split second, there are always at least two moderators on duty at any given moment to keep an eye on things. It's pretty intense, but I never deal with any disciplinary action there—the moderation style is actually quite professional and structured. But here? It feels like some random user is just using me as a punching bag to vent their own personal frustrations.
Don't even go there...

What actually leads to her getting moderated over on John Doe and Gossip...
I remember back in the day, maybe ten years ago, we were practically tearing each other apart right here over that exact same PDF. It was intense. For weeks—honestly, months—it was just constant fighting, heated arguments, people throwing insults around, and getting banned left and right. It all boiled down to the moderation issues.
It’s honestly because every once in a while, some high-and-mighty woman shows up on this John Doe thread, convinced she’s the absolute center of the universe. She acts like she’s going to totally reshape the whole sub-forum, thinking hundreds or thousands of us ladies hang out here just for her. She thinks she can dictate what we can say, what we should talk about, or what topics are "appropriate"—as if we all live by her personal set of rules and whims.
..we've dealt with all sorts of eccentrics over the years—one lady who would shut down threads just because she couldn't stand people mentioning kids, another who took offense at something else entirely, a third who thought a certain topic was just "tacky," and so on... she wants us to chat one way, then turns around and demands we talk another way. Why do some people write certain things, or why do others use words she finds "unpleasant"? (Good grief, when I remember the names you all used to throw at the moderators... honestly, it felt like we were living in an outpatient ward at a mental hospital 🤦)..

...the bottom line of the story —after all those endless arguments and clashes that even someone like Anderson had to step into, it was decided that moderation on the John Doe thread would be much more relaxed compared to the rest of the forum.
Not exactly without any rules or boundaries, but meant to be a "light" version.
Over the years, that has included everything from "you idiot" and "get lost" (copyright ☕) to "screw you"... basically, typical lady behavior, right?
People would fight, make up, apologize, and everything would just work...
..at least until last year, when Cats showed up and, thank heaven, told everyone to back off and took over moderating the front end of ZK. Then we were left with Zlee, who has just kept riding our backs with that condescending tone of hers.
The woman actually banned a user on the John Doe thread just because she mentioned wanting to charm a celebrity like Julia Roberts 🙏
Simps, I’m talking to you—I’m fighting for you and for your freedom 😳
She gives me a warning because she doesn't like how I "jump in" to reply to another user and says she won't permit it; she gives me a strike for "insulting a member" simply because I said I was going to stir the pot regarding "ofarban Lujka."
...she ruins the Gossip for us every few days, constantly splitting things up or shutting them down because "it's not the topic" or we went "off-topic."
And this is on a thread where the subtitle literally says "Irrelevant and chatty topics" !!!
For crying out loud.

In short—please, I am asking you, get her off our backs. Not only is she destroying the vibe and the whole point of this thread, but she’s also clearly enjoying picking on the women here, using her moderator powers to vent her own personal frustrations. I highly doubt that's what anyone looks for in a moderator.
Thanks in advance.

Cue the world's tiniest violin.

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A quick thank you to an anonymous moderator in the women's corner in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Just wanted to take a moment to offer my congratulations to the anonymous moderator—or moderators—over at the women's corner. Lately, you've been deleting my posts without any explanation or reason, and handing out warnings left and right.

Bravo! Really, well done! 🎉

There’s no need to put in any more effort. I appreciate you managing to drive me away and make participating here completely unappealing. You can rest easy now; I won't be cluttering up the forum anymore.

Take care.
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What's the worst ban a forum member can get? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
The poll was missing one crucial option:
  • forcing him to actually read through Reddit

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Past INmusic Festival lineups & sets (Archive) in Music ·
I guess we could go with Black Keys.
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Past INmusic Festival lineups & sets (Archive) in Music ·
Morgan Palmer2 said:Could you explain how I’d actually apply a discount if I'm buying my tickets online?

Is a discount mandatory for getting into the festival? I don't quite follow...
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Past INmusic Festival lineups & sets (Archive) in Music ·
Morgan Palmer2 said:Buddy, just go ahead and print your own ticket for $130
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I don't see how the ticket price has anything to do with printing it. 😕
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