Jason Howard9 said:If that were the case, why are these seminars even attended? A price tag establishes symbolic value—especially in places where the actual quality being offered is far lower than what is being advertised.
It’s honestly just a sad state of affairs, though I suppose you aren't wrong... people flock to these types of sessions because it's just... well, it's what happens, and unfortunately, you have people who are starving for some kind of spiritual connection (as NDagica puts it), and those folks really do need a helping hand, at least when they're first starting out...😢
Jason Howard9 said:At any reasonable price point, nobody would bother showing up.
What on earth do you mean by that? 😕
Look, let's not all pretend we’re living on nothing, acting like we aren't wealthy enough to actually pay for things... because that's just not how reality works. 😁
Life experience has taught me one thing, really... I only go where things are free or where I feel like making a donation based on my own gut feeling... anything else just feels like being robbed, plain and simple. ☕
They say the things that actually matter—the stuff that’s fundamentally true—are always free, just like the air we breathe, the sunlight hitting the pavement, the wind, the rain... it's all part of our basic existence... but people? People get lazy. They're too comfortable. It's much easier to just point the finger at someone else rather than doing the actual heavy lifting themselves, so they end up throwing money at these instant, half-baked "solutions" instead of putting in the work, and then everyone who can afford it just falls right into the same trap... The laws of supply and demand apply to everything, even the spiritual side of life, and obviously, these gurus need to make a living too—paying rent, organizing their seminars, hiring staff, all that jazz—but let’s be real: those who extortionately charge for their services, especially when they go as far as guaranteeing that they will magically fix your problems, are nothing more than total frauds.
By the way, there’s a mountain of literature out there on almost any topic that’s significantly cheaper, though it does require the reader to actually engage and put in some effort, whereas these workshops are usually designed for the impatient, the broke, or the folks who aren't particularly invested in the process, so if that's your speed, be my guest. 🤷
Forgiveness is such a massive deal, and honestly, you won't truly feel like you're living your life until you find a way to forgive your father... Even if it feels impossible right now, try to wrap your head around the idea that he’s just doing the best he can with the hand he was dealt, and since he can only give what he was given during his own upbringing—including all those things he lacked himself—he simply can't offer you what isn't inside him. And just because he’s stuck in his ways and refuses to change doesn't mean that you aren't capable of changing how you perceive him, which is really the only way to find some peace regarding him, and once you do that, everything will stop looking so bleak, and it might even start feeling like he's actually improved...
There is plenty of literature out there filled with visualization exercises meant to help with the whole forgiveness process, but personally, I really connected with Louise Hay and her book "You Can Heal Your Life."
By the way, I was reading an article in the news the other day about how a huge percentage of young parents today are just repeating their own childhood patterns, like hitting their kids because that’s exactly how they were raised! You’d think we were getting smarter with every generation, wouldn't you...🙄
bluemason3 said:Just because someone has control doesn't mean they have a moral compass. In fact, a person who has control but lacks ethics—say, a non-criminal psychopath—will likely be much better at manipulating their environment for personal gain than someone who is moral but lacks self-control. Think of an unadjusted person living on the border; they might end up in trouble due to poor social habits rather than actual malice, not because they are inherently evil (I realize I'm oversimplifying here, obviously).
It really comes back to the idea that the morality of an action isn't what dictates good or bad outcomes. Instead, it's about skill and capability, whether you're navigating a physical space or a social one. If ethics actually determined results, religious systems wouldn't need to invent concepts like karma, reincarnation, heaven, or the Last Judgment. If ethical actions had visible, immediate consequences in this life, we wouldn't need metaphysical explanations to bridge the gap between universal morality and real-world experience. Authors of these systems clearly noticed that justice isn't served in the moment; they saw people suffering far more than they deserved without any apparent reason (including small children, who haven't even had the chance to "earn" anything). In those cases, an afterlife doesn't provide an answer, unlike reincarnation, though I'm sure theologians have cooked up some justifications for that too. 😁
I personally view karma and reincarnation as certainties, though I’m not talking about some distant life after death, but rather the one we are living right now, right here, and how to navigate it with as much quality as possible. And honestly, I think that's nearly impossible without sticking to ethical principles of mutual responsibility... and more importantly, it's impossible without that internal realization of whether we are currently on a path toward, let's say, good or bad results. And I don't mean "results" in terms of amassing wealth, sucking up to bosses, or climbing some envious social ladder, but rather in terms of maintaining a clean conscience and a sense of inner peace. Because that conscience, in its own subtle way, flashes a warning about the inevitable consequences of our actions, even if we choose to ignore the signs most of the time. At least, it works that way for me... I've had plenty of moments where I knew immediately that whatever I had just done was going to come back to haunt me, and sooner or later, it always did.
And let's not even get started on psychopaths or other extreme outliers, because they aren't a representative sample of what we're discussing here; they play their part, sure, but they belong in a completely different chapter of the same story altogether.
bluemason3 said:So, you're saying that negative consequences stem from a lack of skill—whether that's poor communication, failing to hide criminal activity, bad PR, or just weak personal presentation—rather than the actual ethical value (good vs. evil) of the act itself?
I’m not entirely sure if I followed the thread of your question correctly... but from what I can gather, I'd say we aren't really talking about the core system or anything like that... because if someone just lacks the social tools or can't manage their own temper, causing things to go south, that doesn't automatically make them a fundamentally immoral person...
bluemason3 said:It’s actually pretty pragmatic when you look at it. You took an antagonistic stance toward people, which naturally triggered a specific reaction. It’s the same thing that happens if you slap someone in the face. This is all about interpersonal dynamics—protecting your own interests, communication, and how we navigate social circles. I don't see this as a matter of "good" or "bad" deeds in a moral sense. You could theoretically kill a child in their sleep, and if you managed to get away with it and happened to be a psychopath who felt zero remorse, that person wouldn't treat you any differently because of it. In that scenario, there's no karmic shift. What you're experiencing isn't some cosmic "punishment" for doing something "wrong"; it's just the direct consequence of being a nuisance to someone in public. There's nothing metaphysical about it.
Well, alright, maybe it isn't, but I don't view the metaphysical as some abstract concept that exists solely for its own sake—something unreachable or impossible to grasp—but rather as something I'm trying to actually translate through experience into my way of living... you know, actually putting it into practice, because there’s really no point in letting it sit at a purely theoretical level where we just philosophize about it endlessly, I mean, what would even be the purpose in that?
bluemason3 said:It’s a fair question, but I’d argue that having the ability to assess, predict, and analyze based on experience and intuition can narrow down potential outcomes. It allows you to guess future events with much higher accuracy than just random chance.
No matter how you slice it, I don't see any evidence that good is rewarded with good, or vice versa. The idea of reaping what you sow isn't a functional capability; it’s an ethical concept. Of course, emotional intelligence is a skill, too, but so is psychopathic manipulation. So... for every "bad" person who seems to be winning at life, there's a "good" person just suffering because of them.
I agree that good and evil aren't objective realities, but if they aren't, then talking about sowing and reaping based on ethics becomes pretty meaningless.🤷
Let me give you a straightforward example from my own life: I’ve had my dog for over ten years now, and back in the early days, I found myself constantly clashing with people because I’d react so aggressively to their comments—you know, the usual stuff about picking up poop, or how I care more about an animal than "real" people, or even just asking if I'm sleeping with him and all that nonsense... I’d head out for a walk feeling totally agitated, basically bracing myself for another encounter with some idiot, and sure enough, I usually found one! It was like whatever I focused on, whatever kind of energy I was putting out there, that was exactly what I ended up inviting into my day... But ever since I shifted my mindset—first by just refusing to engage with those petty remarks, and then by simply stopping myself from getting worked up beforehand—those types of people just don't seem to cross my path anymore. It’s not that they’ve vanished from the streets, it’s just that by changing my own mental landscape, I’m no longer attracting them...
So, if this ethical criterion doesn't primarily apply to the quality of our human connections—which is the very thing that grates on all of us and the entire reason we're even sitting here having this conversation—then honestly, I have no clue what kind of "meaning" we could possibly be talking about... 🤷
Sophia Thompson7 said:You’re basically irrelevant until you actually do something significant for someone who can truly appreciate it—not just some random person... For instance, helping animals in need. They have so much capacity for love. Or helping some underprivileged kid, or a struggling elderly person who’s been totally abandoned by society. Most adults don't value anything unless there's a selfish benefit involved. Life can honestly be a total waste if you don't take action. If you just sit there passively waiting for adults to shower you with affection or gifts... well, that's just naive.
But if you pull off something truly massive, then everything changes. Honestly, if I could, I’d start with animal rescues and children. I'm constantly planning ways to help animals, but I lack support—it’s hard to do this alone. Right now, all I really do is volunteer with the ASPCA and send out emails from time to time. I desperately want to help the pigeons in New York City—they’re suffering so much, and there's even talk about how people can just mistreat or kill them whenever some idiot feels like it. I want to make a bigger impact because where I spend half my time—the United Kingdom—animals are especially vulnerable and neglected.
I just don't know how to kick things off. It's nearly impossible to do it solo. But hey, maybe that's why we're here—to leave a mark. Leaving a legacy is worth infinitely more than being caught on camera by some paparazzi just so a bunch of shallow creeps—who only care about themselves anyway—can stare at you. I’d choose doing something beautiful for someone who actually cares and whose life is changed forever over that any day of the week.
It absolutely sickens me how little people care about animals, pigeons, kids, or the elderly who have zero help. Meanwhile, some billionaire’s daughter wanders into a boutique and drops $450 on a scrap of fabric $0.00. The world is a disgusting place, which is why I hate it and would rather just play the piano. People and this whole world... it's just nauseating.
I mean, it’s likely always going to be that way because trying to measure your own worth based on how other people react to you is just a dead end, a total waste of energy, since it all boils down to your own expectations, and let me tell you, expectations are where all the trouble starts...
It isn't hard to get moving—you just start with yourself without constantly worrying about everyone else: you give a smile, say something kind, help an old lady cross the street, throw some seed out for the birds in the winter, instead of swatting a fly you just usher it out the door, or just keeping your cool when someone tries to pick a fight... and then suddenly you realize you're actually happy with who you are, and honestly, you aren't responsible for fixing the whole world anyway, seeing as you can't really force people to change unless they actually want to, so you're really only accountable for how you carry yourself, which in turn sets an example for others that being a decent person is actually possible...
bluemason3 said:Was the world actually better back when metaphysics called the shots? 🤣
Cause and effect are very real, but they aren't tethered to morality. Take a sociopathic manipulator who exploits someone without any blowback—even if the victim ends up feeling grateful—or a slave owner where the victim has zero leverage. Or just some criminal running an illegal trafficking ring in the shadows. The consequences you’re talking about aren't really about good or evil; they're just the results of poor planning, bad foresight, or simple mistakes.
In my view, "good" and "evil" are just relative categories because what feels righteous to one person might be devastating to another, so you could argue they don't even truly exist as objective truths... there is only what *is*, and how an individual perceives and reacts to that reality.
You talk about the ability to predict and plan, but that assumes a future-time that hasn't actually arrived yet, and honestly, it’s anyone's guess whether our current actions will even lead to those expectations being met in the first place... so, I wouldn't necessarily say a lack of results is a consequence of anything other than the messy way things are unfolding right now.
The point is, all these ideas are just concepts we created, not objective reality.
It's incredibly easy to manufacture cause-and-effect links and interpret them subjectively just to fit the worldview we already believe in.
There's no real evidence for "reaping what you sow" in everyday life. To make that work, you have to pull in metaphysical concepts like heaven or karma. Even pragmatic, non-religious systems like Buddhism or Jainism had to adopt karma just to maintain a sense of cosmic justice; you can't prove any of that through direct observation.
Why would it need to benefit everyone? From an evolutionary or biological standpoint—setting aside metaphysics—utility follows a strict hierarchy: 1. Self*; 2. Children; 3. Immediate family; 4. Extended family; 5. Small social groups we identify with; 6. Larger society, and so on.
Not everything carries equal weight in that hierarchy. The benefit to those lower on the ladder is essentially a reflection of our own; as social animals, we fulfill our evolutionary purpose through communities that aid survival, while our offspring carry our genetic code.
* According to the selfish gene theory, the primary driver isn't individual gain, but rather the preservation of genetic information. That's why there's a measurable evolutionary advantage to self-sacrifice for others based on how closely related they are to us.
I mean, I guess that’s fine, since we all experience ourselves, other people, the world, and life itself through our own little lenses, and perception is just like people—no two perspectives are ever truly identical... But it feels important to me that a person's perception actually keeps them in a state of peace and contentment, rather than making life feel like one endless battlefield where you only get the occasional moment to catch your breath...
The point is, all these ideas are just concepts we created, not objective reality.
It's incredibly easy to manufacture cause-and-effect links and interpret them subjectively just to fit the worldview we already believe in.
There's no real evidence for "reaping what you sow" in everyday life. To make that work, you have to pull in metaphysical concepts like heaven or karma. Even pragmatic, non-religious systems like Buddhism or Jainism had to adopt karma just to maintain a sense of cosmic justice; you can't prove any of that through direct observation.
Why would it need to benefit everyone? From an evolutionary or biological standpoint—setting aside metaphysics—utility follows a strict hierarchy: 1. Self*; 2. Children; 3. Immediate family; 4. Extended family; 5. Small social groups we identify with; 6. Larger society, and so on.
Not everything carries equal weight in that hierarchy. The benefit to those lower on the ladder is essentially a reflection of our own; as social animals, we fulfill our evolutionary purpose through communities that aid survival, while our offspring carry our genetic code.
* According to the selfish gene theory, the primary driver isn't individual gain, but rather the preservation of genetic information. That's why there's a measurable evolutionary advantage to self-sacrifice for others based on how closely related they are to us.
I assume you're talking about the mind and its internal frameworks here... but if that's the case, why shouldn't we strive to actually grasp reality, and what exactly do you think that reality is, anyway?...
The point is, all these ideas are just concepts we created, not objective reality.
It's incredibly easy to manufacture cause-and-effect links and interpret them subjectively just to fit the worldview we already believe in.
There's no real evidence for "reaping what you sow" in everyday life. To make that work, you have to pull in metaphysical concepts like heaven or karma. Even pragmatic, non-religious systems like Buddhism or Jainism had to adopt karma just to maintain a sense of cosmic justice; you can't prove any of that through direct observation.
Why would it need to benefit everyone? From an evolutionary or biological standpoint—setting aside metaphysics—utility follows a strict hierarchy: 1. Self*; 2. Children; 3. Immediate family; 4. Extended family; 5. Small social groups we identify with; 6. Larger society, and so on.
Not everything carries equal weight in that hierarchy. The benefit to those lower on the ladder is essentially a reflection of our own; as social animals, we fulfill our evolutionary purpose through communities that aid survival, while our offspring carry our genetic code.
* According to the selfish gene theory, the primary driver isn't individual gain, but rather the preservation of genetic information. That's why there's a measurable evolutionary advantage to self-sacrifice for others based on how closely related they are to us.
Maybe so, but you know how it goes—if you play with fire, you're going to get burned... If someone decides to tail a guy who just aggressively cut them off in a Starbucks parking lot, they probably shouldn't act shocked when they end up getting into a physical altercation with him...
The point is, all these ideas are just concepts we created, not objective reality.
It's incredibly easy to manufacture cause-and-effect links and interpret them subjectively just to fit the worldview we already believe in.
There's no real evidence for "reaping what you sow" in everyday life. To make that work, you have to pull in metaphysical concepts like heaven or karma. Even pragmatic, non-religious systems like Buddhism or Jainism had to adopt karma just to maintain a sense of cosmic justice; you can't prove any of that through direct observation.
Why would it need to benefit everyone? From an evolutionary or biological standpoint—setting aside metaphysics—utility follows a strict hierarchy: 1. Self*; 2. Children; 3. Immediate family; 4. Extended family; 5. Small social groups we identify with; 6. Larger society, and so on.
Not everything carries equal weight in that hierarchy. The benefit to those lower on the ladder is essentially a reflection of our own; as social animals, we fulfill our evolutionary purpose through communities that aid survival, while our offspring carry our genetic code.
* According to the selfish gene theory, the primary driver isn't individual gain, but rather the preservation of genetic information. That's why there's a measurable evolutionary advantage to self-sacrifice for others based on how closely related they are to us.
You don't need to bring in anything metaphysical at all; it's just plain, simple, everyday experience... Take any partnership—whether it's a marriage, a business deal, or just a friendship—where one person constantly treats the other poorly, and then they act completely blindsided when that person suddenly cuts them off... like, what happened? What did I do to deserve this?!? Or, say, you leave raising a kid entirely up to the streets, the public schools, and the internet because you're too busy chasing a promotion at Goldman Sachs and don't have the time or energy for them, and then you're left feeling devastated when that child grows up and treats you like a complete stranger...
The point is, all these ideas are just concepts we created, not objective reality.
It's incredibly easy to manufacture cause-and-effect links and interpret them subjectively just to fit the worldview we already believe in.
There's no real evidence for "reaping what you sow" in everyday life. To make that work, you have to pull in metaphysical concepts like heaven or karma. Even pragmatic, non-religious systems like Buddhism or Jainism had to adopt karma just to maintain a sense of cosmic justice; you can't prove any of that through direct observation.
Why would it need to benefit everyone? From an evolutionary or biological standpoint—setting aside metaphysics—utility follows a strict hierarchy: 1. Self*; 2. Children; 3. Immediate family; 4. Extended family; 5. Small social groups we identify with; 6. Larger society, and so on.
Not everything carries equal weight in that hierarchy. The benefit to those lower on the ladder is essentially a reflection of our own; as social animals, we fulfill our evolutionary purpose through communities that aid survival, while our offspring carry our genetic code.
* According to the selfish gene theory, the primary driver isn't individual gain, but rather the preservation of genetic information. That's why there's a measurable evolutionary advantage to self-sacrifice for others based on how closely related they are to us.
And why not just throw those metaphysical concepts into the mix while we're at it? I mean, let's just see where all those other "higher ideals" have led the world so far...!!
bluemason3 said:No one is particularly important. Nobody holds a role other than the one shaped by a random chain of events. Most people aren't even aware of any "special" purpose because such things don't actually exist unless you invent them through religion. Spiritual unity is just a mental construct without any real weight. Every person we meet and every event we experience is either pure coincidence or the direct consequence of previous decisions and circumstances. Thinking of life as some grand, majestic achievement is just a religious projection. Emotions are natural, sure, but they’re only useful insofar as they provide actual value in a given situation.
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Heh, basically the exact opposite, huh? 😁 ...I suppose it comes down to experience—how we choose to process those experiences and how we carry them with us.
The reality is that we have to live life moving forward, while we can only ever analyze it looking backward, which makes it easy to spot all those cause-and-effect chains that led us to where we are right now... the real question is just how much of our own role in everything we've endured we are actually willing to admit...
It isn't about these mental religious projections, but rather just common sense whereyou reap what you sow in the sense that good is returned for good, evil for evil, and so on.
As for emotions, I have to wonder what kind of "real benefit" we're talking about and for whom, because it certainly can't be the same for everyone involved, and I don't see what basis anyone would have to claim rights that end up denying those same rights to others...🤷
No one is truly insignificant, because every single person plays a specific role in this life, even if most people spend their whole lives failing to grasp the actual purpose or meaning behind it all. Most folks aren't even aware of it—we basically build ourselves through the entire span of our existence by shaping things through our own thoughts, our words, and our actions. And what kind of person we end up becoming really just boils down to which self-image an individual decides to pursue and live out. There isn't some master manual for living, and let's face it, there are plenty of circumstances and situations where we have absolutely zero control over what happens, but what we *can* do is choose how we react to them, based entirely on who we believe we actually are. If we think we’re nothing more than physical bodies moving through space, we’re definitely going to react in a completely different way than someone who is actually aware of the spiritual oneness connecting everything on this Earth.
And here’s the kicker—as much as people might hate hearing it, every person we meet and every single thing that happens to us isn't just some random accident, but rather a series of opportunities handed to us to realize the most magnificent version of the being we claim to be.
Btw, the OP mentioned in a previous post that they concluded rage isn't necessarily a negative emotion. I couldn't disagree more on that point... because people kill, wage wars, and commit absolute atrocities when they are fueled by rage; it’s something that becomes impossible to restrain or keep under control. Now, a positive and natural emotion is simple frustration or annoyance—just a way to express disagreement or reject something that doesn't sit right with us—and that doesn't have to be insulting or harmful to anyone else, plus it's something we can actually manage and direct. But if you keep suppressing that frustration, it eventually morphs into rage, which is a negative and deeply unnatural emotion.
Look, spirituality isn't some fragile little thing that needs a bodyguard to protect it from mainstream debates or alternative theories 🤷, and honestly, it isn't nearly as delicate as people make it out to be... it can handle a bit of friction 😍
Anyway, what’s the issue with this thread? Proving any of this stuff is just as difficult as trying to prove anything regarding spiritual topics in general 😁
Davor Domazet says in his book "clone performance" that conspiracy theory is really just a label used by the media-driven, hyper-connected globalist network to smear or completely dismiss specific prophecies and warnings about upcoming catastrophes...
If you look back at what we all dismissed just a little while ago as nothing more than the ramblings of some doomsday pessimists—everything from cloning and GMOs, to engineered diseases and the resulting outbreaks, forced vaccinations, surveillance cameras on every corner, social security numbers, bank account tracking, etc., all serving as a precursor to the blatant microchipping that seems to be happening already (I've even read stories where people in the USA are actually coming forward claiming they've had chips implanted 😲), and how they've already gone wild experimenting on animals... ...then when you realize just how vulnerable and exposed we've become through technology—privacy is basically a relic of the past (and people, for instance, were so distracted by things like reality TV that they didn't even realize what they were being conditioned for 🙄), and now that we are fully aware of how crises are orchestrated—whether they're financial, wars, or man-made natural disasters, and so on—it becomes painfully obvious that we are living in an era of manufactured, controlled chaos, where the masters of this chaos (that "Committee of 300") manipulate entire nations and populations by installing a version of "democracy" that actually just pushes their own values, interests, and lifestyles, all while maintaining an unbearable grip on what is, in reality, a totally undemocratic world....so honestly, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we see imminent wars over drinking water or those reptilian beings that Alex Jones writes about...🤷
Jacob Sanchez7 said:@rustymaker5: free will That’s the crux of it. Every soul is free to choose its own path in this life, and every soul is free to learn its lessons on its own terms. People love to meddle in others' business sometimes, always coming up with excuses for it... various rules, social codes, morality, and all those rigid ideologies being shoved down our throats. Just because we believe we're being "righteous" doesn't mean we have any grasp on the actual reality of what's happening. Maybe she found her peace through that death... who knows? We can't.
Perhaps the best move is simply to let go—to leave her alone and find some peace for ourselves too.
Maybe it is like that... actually, thanks for saying that, you have no idea how much that helped me, it was like I needed a little nudge to remember certain things...🙂
restlessdriver42 said:I am not entirely convinced that these "rotten apples" outnumber the "good" ones by such a massive margin.😁
I have never encountered any data or comprehensive study that actually proves this. It seems to me that this negative assumption is silently reinforced by the fact that bad news is much louder and easier to spot than the quiet, beautiful moments.
Consider this example... I share a small story about a clerk who goes out of her way to help a customer find the perfect shoes, only to have someone dismiss her as uninspiring—sweeping her kindness under the rug without giving her a single thought.
Meanwhile, we obsess over stories of crime until our entire worldview is painted in shades of black.
Consciousness, in my view, is the primary driver if we want to see any real progress. We must train ourselves to notice those quiet, small flickers of light. By doing so, a person can shift away from a pessimistic outlook—a state of mind that, ironically, tends to breed even more negative circumstances.
Some argue that the soul forgets its previous mission specifically so we aren't distracted from our current life. It is a bit like knowing your mother was once someone else's wife and how she passed away—it would be quite a burden, wouldn't it? Haha! Now I have wandered into reincarnation territory... but ultimately, we don't know and likely never will. It might be best to accept that uncertainty and focus instead on what we actually control: ourselves.
Sorry, we won't, it was just a bad moment... I actually love the idea of spreading positive vibes, so let's keep moving forward! 😉
Heh, I wish it worked that way too, but you know what they say—one rotten apple spoils the whole bunch. People always preach about not judging others because we can’t possibly know the roles everyone is playing, and besides, the Universe is supposedly in charge of keeping everything balanced... but honestly, when I read today about that fifteen-year-old girl being murdered in Mexico by some random, disturbed butcher she didn't even know, I just felt this overwhelming wave of misery mixed with pure rage. Why on earth doesn't karmic retribution happen right here in this lifetime, so people actually understand the consequences of their actions? Instead, we're either shrouded in this veil of forgetfulness, or we're just completely blinded by the hollow illusions of the world we live in, or maybe we're supposed to grasp some deep truth through instructions that are incredibly vague and almost always misinterpreted... and then, at the same time, we're told we need to be aware of our oneness, of our unity, that we should even "love our enemies," because God knows we have no idea when—or in which lifetime—we'll finally have to pay the price for all the crap we've done at some point in the past. It’s also far too easy to feel fine when evil isn't happening directly to us; it's much easier to feel a sense of connection or solidarity with, say... that butcher, and to pretend the concept of cosmic justice is perfectly reasonable and attainable... but there are just so many rotten apples out there, and the work required to actually expand one's consciousness demands such intense faith, persistence, and devotion from every single person, that most people eventually buckle under the weight and lose themselves again in this endless game of life... relying, I suppose, only on the hope that it's darkest just before the dawn...
...ugh, looks like a bit of despondency just hit me... it happens from time to time, I guess...🙄
I should probably just mention that I didn't actually start this thread myself; these posts were all migrated over from the Philosophy chat, so I’m really not looking to dwell on it any longer than necessary. But since we’re dealing with spirituality here, Imagine, who knows what kind of things might surface... 😍
I’m only typing this out so it doesn’t look like some of you are actually right—because there exist people who simply don't feel the need to jump every time someone throws an insult or a provocation their way. Look, personally, I just don't have that itch, even if Sanja Dalaj thinks my silence is just some fake, pseudo-spiritual act. But hey, that’s her take, and honestly, I don't have the energy to obsess over her opinion of me.
The fact that I don't dive into every petty argument or join in on those group pile-ons against certain members doesn't mean anything other than that's just not who I am, and frankly, it's none of my business. If anything, I think the people who live for that kind of drama are usually just dealing with their own deep-seated issues, since it seems like only broken people feel the need to tear others down just to get a little boost for their own egos.
The truth is, the reason I even brought this topic up today is because the constant bickering on this chat is getting ridiculous, but I clearly overestimated things... I assumed that basic cognitive ability would be enough for people to grasp both the purpose here and the chance we have for some elementary, decent human communication.
I wouldn't even be bothering with this if I didn't see how my lack of reaction is being twisted into something completely opposite from what it actually is... though, I have to admit, seeing that is pretty stinging. Stay sane out there in your neck of the woods! 😛
Btw, Executioner, you've completely lost your way...