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Know Your Consumer Rights in Economy ·
I mean, sure, I could try to file a formal complaint, maybe they’d actually listen and take responsibility, but what would be the point if the issue really is just bad storage at the warehouse like you're suggesting... because then a replacement would just end up being more of the same stuff... 🤷
Honestly though, I don't even have the energy to deal with the headache of fighting them over this, it's just some Hershey's candy after all, but still... it's just annoying... 🙂
Know Your Consumer Rights in Economy ·
I am absolutely livid right now, and honestly, here is why: I picked up some expensive Hershey's "griotte" chocolates at Walmart, and let me tell you, they were a total disaster... the candies were gray, sunken, dried out, just completely inedible, and to top it all off, there wasn't even a single label inside the box—you know, that little slip of paper you need if you actually want to file a formal complaint with Hershey! What kind of rights does a consumer even have at this point, other than just staying far away from a company that isn't even half the brand it used to be...😠
Old souls vs. young souls in Spirituality ·
It’s not about being stuck, it’s about the neck, ha! 😁

I honestly feel like we aren't all on the same page when it comes to what "attachment" actually means... To me, it isn't about living life without any emotional ties at all, or becoming these cold, unfeeling, supposedly "soulless" people. I think the real issue is more about how we handle those deep connections we have—you know, with a child, a spouse, a close friend, or anyone else important—and whether we express that bond by suffocating them with this overbearing protective instinct or by trying to mold them into something else just to fit our own expectations...
It’s perfectly natural to be deeply attached to the people closest to us, but as long as we aren't making our lives a burden for them, and instead we respect them as independent individuals we simply enjoy spending time with, then I don't think that counts as negative attachment, and it seems to me that's exactly how a star soul carries themselves...
It’s the same thing when you look at material possessions—for instance, if someone accidentally breaks an old family heirloom passed down from your great-grandmother, and you're suddenly hit with this tidal wave of rage and grief because you feel like a link to your heritage has been severed, and then you let that resentment poison your relationship with that person... well, that's where the attachment turns toxic, even though the actual joy of holding onto such a memory isn't a bad thing at all... 🤷
The search for the perfect match in Spirituality ·
Jacob Sanchez7 said:Of course, I’m interested in finding someone who feels whole as a partner, but I view that more as having a "soulmate connection" rather than just finding a specific type of person. It isn't even about some mystical merging of two beings. It’s more about true partnership—just sitting side by side on a roller coaster at Six Flags, soaking in the moment together.

How do you all see it? What are your thoughts?

What do you even mean by a "soulmate" being someone who matches you on a soul level? I mean, honestly, a soul is a soul... they're all essentially the same kind of essence in everyone, if I can even put it that way without sounding like a complete idiot, and besides, a soul is supposed to be whole within every single person, so the whole idea of a soul being "half" of something just doesn't make any sense to me at all... 🤷

A partnership should be a true union, you know, where both people bring equal value to the table and there’s this unconditional, fundamental respect for who the other person actually is... it shouldn't be about one person trying to use the other to plug some gaping hole in their own soul, or worse, attempting to mold their partner into some idealized version that only exists in their own head, because when you start trying to reshape someone to fit your specific little expectations and whims, it always ends the exact same way—just a slow slide into total disappointment and resentment...
Accepting someone exactly for who they are, without that constant, nagging urge to reshape them or mold them into something that fits our own little lives better... even if that means one person wants to go full throttle on the roller coasters at Six Flags while the other is perfectly happy just sitting on a bench watching the chaos unfold... 😍
Old souls vs. young souls in Spirituality ·
🙂 kid! 😍
Old souls vs. young souls in Spirituality ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:If we accept the premise that there are such things as old and young souls, then who exactly is responsible for manufacturing these "young" ones? Is it not more logical to assume that all souls were brought into existence simultaneously? Furthermore, I fail to see the inherent flaw in attaching oneself to material possessions; why is being unattached considered the only virtuous path?
If this entire world was designed as a playground for a single soul to gain experience, wouldn't it be far more efficient for that soul to embed itself deeply within the material realm to truly exhaust every possible experience?
By what twisted logic is a young soul deemed "better off" unattached to the physical world? Is it simply because they lack the capacity to grasp how to attach themselves and actually undergo the necessary experiences?

Well?

😁

But yeah, it’s true—all souls were created simultaneously, just like everything else happens in one singular, eternal "now." It's just incredibly difficult for us to wrap our heads around that because we're trapped in these rigid categories of space and time, which is why this is the only way we can even attempt to talk about it...
I mean, how am I supposed to fully grasp or accept the idea that there are several versions of rustymaker5 existing across different worlds and different planes of reality, all while being "me"... and not just that I am that one soul, but that I am simultaneously—along with all of you, everyone else here—a single soul that is, in essence, one with what we call absolute energy, or the creator, or God? 🤷

And as for why getting attached to the material world is seen as a problem? That’s just another category we use to navigate life at this level, since nothing is inherently good or bad; things just *are*, based entirely on how we perceive and experience them...
How we see things depends on how much we identify with our physical selves—how much we've forgotten that we are actually a soul inhabiting a body just to gather the specific experiences we're looking for.
It’s like an actor getting so lost in a role that they completely forget they aren't the character, but are just playing them...

As for this whole concept of "young" versus "old" souls, I think we’ve just adapted that language to fit the relativity of the world we inhabit, because the fact remains that babies seem to have a much closer connection to their spiritual nature (though they eventually lose it), so you could argue they represent those "younger" souls. But honestly, I think we categorize them that way mostly based on how much awareness they have regarding their own spiritual essence...🤷
Old souls vs. young souls in Spirituality ·
Morgan Bishop4 said:See, when people start preaching that whole "you only live once" routine... if it turns out we actually get to go through this loop multiple times, then my conscience isn't going to be giving me any grief for just coasting through this life...😁

But why even bother feeling guilty? You’re making those choices yourself, aren't you! 😉
And hey, if you end up needing to retake the course... well, there's always next time! 😁
The search for the perfect match in Spirituality ·
Nancy Wilson2 said:Thank God most people don't actually follow those "spiritual" teachings—if they did, there wouldn't be anyone left on this planet.

This is where things actually start getting interesting. All those spiritual teachings handed down by supposedly "enlightened" figures—well, they ultimately originate from the spirit itself. It stands to reason that the spirit shaped this world to align with the human experience. From what I can gather, it seems to have been part of the grand design for us to form deep emotional bonds; everything in existence points toward this being a fundamental, natural necessity—something clearly visible in the wild and among the animal kingdom. Furthermore, if one looks at the ancient Upanishads—which served as the foundational bedrock for most of the spiritual philosophies currently trending in America—the universe and nature are essentially synonymous with God.

And now, even the spiritualists are pushing back against this—it’s truly bizarre. It’s as if God is acting in direct opposition to Himself, working against His own design in an attempt to dismantle exactly what He intended to create.

Emotional attachment remains one of the fundamental pillars of human love—it manifests within the bond between parent and child, among friends, and between romantic partners alike. It is, by all accounts, entirely natural. While certain animals exhibit similar traits, they don't all possess this specific depth—as I mentioned before. From a theological perspective, one might ask why this exists in the first place; if it is indeed the intention of God, then there is a glaring contradiction to address. This capacity for connection inevitably brings with it immense suffering, heartache, and a myriad of complex problems—which suggests it doesn't quite stem from a source that is purely composed of love and goodness. Something simply doesn't align. Of course, everything I have just laid out is merely me airing my own thoughts—it doesn't necessarily bear much direct relevance to the core topic at hand.

The fundamental point here is that bonding is a biological imperative—it’s entirely natural. Without that instinctual connection, life as we know it wouldn't even exist; and even if it did, parents wouldn't feel that innate drive to protect their offspring. There is actual scientific precedent for this, too—studies have shown that when you artificially suppress oxytocin levels in parents, that protective instinct vanishes, often resulting in them becoming aggressive toward their own young.

While certain inclinations may be innate, an individual still maintains the agency to decide whether or not to engage with them—provided they have the willpower. Of course, that choice is often a fragile thing, given that our neurological wiring is essentially hardcoded to respond to these stimuli. We aren't entirely helpless, however, when pitted against those relentless evolutionary pressures and primal instincts.

If you’re saying everything in the universe is interconnected, then sure, I guess you're right about that...
But if you mean that being attached to someone or something is actually a good thing, then I have to wonder why there are so many miserable, unfulfilled people walking around this country, considering how deeply attached everyone seems to be—not just to other people, but to material things, specific ideologies, abstract concepts, or even past events... 🤷
Old souls vs. young souls in Spirituality ·
Robert Diaz2 said:Of course not, silly! 😛 I'm really just sharing a little something from my own experience here. It kind of makes me wonder, maybe some souls don't follow a set pattern at all. Like, I guess it's possible you could be a peaceful guru in one life and then, I don't know, a total mass murderer in the next. 😁 At the end of the day, maybe the point is just collecting all those experiences, and whether the order matters... well, I honestly have no clue. 🤷 I definitely prefer thinking about it linearly, like there’s some divine master plan or something, but I guess I just started questioning things.

That’s kind of like asking if it's possible for preschoolers to be reading Tolstoy, only to switch back to coloring books once they actually learn how to read and write. 😁
Old souls vs. young souls in Spirituality ·
Robert Diaz2 said:But I feel like you guys are looking at this through such a linear lens. It’s just not linear like that. Sure, time might move in a straight line on this specific plane of existence, but there's more to it. I actually know someone—and I'm talking about a person where absolutely none of those spiritual gurus would ever claim she's an old soul or on her final incarnation. The thing is, she isn't even into any of that spiritual stuff; she basically lives like your typical, everyday Matrix zombie. She’s just super focused on the material world and all the worldly things.

So, what if we just take it at face value for a second and assume she really is an old soul, even though her obsession with material stuff suggests the exact opposite—regardless of what those gurus claim? I mean, which gurus are we even talking about, and what makes us think they actually know anything at all? 🤷
Old souls vs. young souls in Spirituality ·
heh, I’ve got a nagging feeling about this whole Level 7 thing... I mean, it just doesn't sit right with me, how can someone like a high-ranking politician, or a career soldier, or even a priest, be such highly evolved souls while simultaneously causing so much absolute chaos and wreckage throughout the world 😁
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Old souls vs. young souls in Spirituality ·
So, from what I’ve gathered, there are five distinct soul levels—ranging all the way from baby souls up to kings—and since each level has seven stages, we’re looking at at least 35 reincarnations minimum, though when I was chatting with some folks in the New Age community, they were claiming to have lived through hundreds upon hundreds of lifetimes already...🤷

I can't exactly say I identify as an old soul, per se, because while I definitely have certain traits of a mature soul, there's a bit of the old soul vibe mixed in there too, but I did find that part about unshakeable eye contact pretty interesting. Based on that alone, I suppose I could be classified as one of those young-old souls...😍

p.s.

You could always just run everything through Google Translate to get an American version, even if parts of it end up having meanings that are totally opposite to the original text, though if you read them side-by-side it all makes sense enough. Honestly, though, I have no idea who developed that translation software, because sometimes the translations are just straight-up idiotic...
The search for the perfect match in Spirituality ·
Jacob Sanchez7 said:True enough.
But when people say they’re "looking," they mean a life partner. Someone with shared interests who acts as a catalyst for you, and vice versa—someone to enjoy the ride with. That's it.
A spark to burn through old habits and everything forgotten.

I actually have this woman appearing in my dreams quite regularly, though I haven't a clue who she is. I'm trying to pin her down. The vibe is unmistakable, but the face stays out of reach. It’s interesting; since consciousness is constantly talking to itself, these interactions are just masks—just another puzzle piece. Outer space arranges everything exactly how it needs to be.

Where's the rush, you eternal being?

Look, I get what he's saying 🙂, but Justin Garcia7 seems to think he's somehow incomplete, like finding this "other half" is going to magically patch up his own personal shortcomings. And honestly, that's the biggest scam in the whole dating scene. 😛
Expecting some stranger to come along and fix the things that we really can only ever fix for ourselves...🤷
The search for the perfect match in Spirituality ·
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And what kind of half are people even looking for?
The truth is, we’re all already whole and complete just as we are...
I haven't really noticed much domesticpatriotism around here lately, just more of that slightly negative-tinted nationalism—though honestly, that was never really "in" to begin with...
But what I find genuinely interesting is how, regarding the James Comey Law, the Prime Minister managed to secure support from none other than the leader of the Mexican minority...
Personal accounts of brief vs. permanent awakenings in Spirituality ·
Paul Jones7 said:It seems like a certain group of people—including some folks posting here on the forum—claim (either loudly or more quietly) that this process actually opens the door to true knowledge. Which is why I was wondering if there might be different types of awakenings. Because, look, if it all boils down to just feeling that sense of oneness or being inseparable from everything, but those doors to actual knowledge aren't opened at the same time... then we might be talking about two very different kinds of awakenings.

Hey, hold on just a second! Isn't realizing that oneness/unity with everything *is* Knowledge?
Isn't the realization that a person isn't just a physical body, and that after death the soul—which is what we truly are and what connects us to everything else—continues its existence in a non-material reality, actually Knowledge?
Those little flashes of wisdom, those sudden moments of "awakening"... they are really just instances where the soul makes itself known, essentially opening the doors to Knowledge.
And this isn't some exclusive secret handed down to a chosen few; it's absolute Knowledge stored within the souls of every single human being, whether they realize it or not. (A lot of people deny the soul exists, don't they? But that doesn't prove it isn't real, it just means they haven't become aware of its existence yet...)
So, when people start becoming conscious of their primal nature—their soul—that Knowledge reveals itself to them as often and in such quantities as they are actually capable of absorbing. Some have barely scratched the surface, some have deep insights, and some haven't the slightest clue what's even happening...

It reminds me of how humans learn as they grow up: as a kid, you play with coloring books and picture books, then you go to school and learn to read and write, and suddenly you're into comic books, and as you get older, you move on to much more complex literature... even though all of it—the picture books, the comics, the heavy novels—already existed long before you ever knew they were there.
It doesn't mean kids are any less intelligent just because they don't know the things that older people are learning, right?
That’s how it works with what we’re discussing here... it’s really just about which step of the ladder someone is on in terms of becoming aware of the one who is, and therefore, the proportional amount of Knowledge they are able to uncover through that awareness.
Personal accounts of brief vs. permanent awakenings in Spirituality ·
Peter Phillips32 said:I honestly have no clue who you're actually aiming at with this post, so I guess I’m just gonna have to point out how incredibly vague and open to interpretation this whole thing is.
I honestly can't wrap my head around people who just sit there philosophizing about absolutely nothing, just talking in circles to hear their own voices, or those self-righteous types who act like some kind of holy priest coming in here to enlighten everyone else when they clearly haven't got a clue.

If everyone jumping on this thread is just dumping their little "short awakening" stories—you know, those experiences they claim are totally misreported because they can’t even wrap their heads around what actually went down or distinguish what was real from what they basically made up on the fly—then honestly, we’re all just spinning our wheels, talking into a void. It’s all just empty philosophy at that point. These people act like they're some kind of spiritual counselors, pretending to care about other wandering souls searching for the actual Truth—and I mean the real deal, not that religious nonsense or the fake alternative stuff you see everywhere—just trying to use someone else's perspective to push this old, new spiritual Truth onto everyone else.
Honestly, they’d be much better off just opening their own eyes for once, because let me tell you, the more you try to break it down for them or sit there typing out these massive, winding essays, the less right you actually seem to be—or maybe it's just that you end up looking even more wrong in their eyes.

So, what you’re actually trying to say is that anyone posting about those brief moments of awakening is basically tripping over their own feet before they even start? Like, if they lead with that whole "you can't explain the supernatural because it's just too beyond words" dogma, they’ve already nuked their own credibility. They’re basically handing out a disclaimer that says, "Hey, don't bother listening to my story, because I've already decided everything I'm about to tell you is impossible to describe." It's kind of a self-defeating loop, isn't it? You try to share an experience, but then you immediately shut the door on any actual explanation by claiming it's all "ineffable" or whatever, which just kills the whole point of the conversation.

So, what does it actually mean when someone drops a line like "the supernatural exists" or follows it up with "my specific explanation for the supernatural is the only right one"? Is that even a dogma anymore, or is it just a collection of plain old claims that eventually turn out to be false because they were built on some shaky, initial dogma to begin with? It’s a weird loop, honestly. You start with a foundational belief—a dogma—and then you spend the rest of your life building these massive, complicated structures of "truth" on top of it, only to realize the whole thing is just a house of cards because the first card was a lie. It makes you wonder if we're all just circling the drain of our own assumptions.
Look, if I actually wanted to read a book, I’d just head down to the local library, wouldn't I?

Look, let's add a little nuance here, shall we? I really don't want everyone cluttering up the feed with endless posts about their brief little "epiphanies" or fleeting moments of clarity. If you're actually looking to sit around and digest long-winded, deep-dive life stories, then honestly, you'd be much better off heading down to the local library instead.
I honestly wish all these self-proclaimed geniuses would finally just start using abbreviations instead of writing these endless, exhausting essays. 😁

So, what’s the shorthand for when you're stuck and there's just absolutely nothing left to say about the supernatural stuff?
Look, I’m just gonna say it—you gotta stay awake. Seriously. It sounds like some cliché advice you'd hear from a life coach on a podcast, but honestly, if you let yourself drift off when things are actually happening, you’re basically handing over the keys to your own life. I know, I know, I'm rambling, and yeah, maybe I need more coffee because my brain feels like it's running through molasses, but there's a real weight to this. You can't afford to be sleepwalking through your existence while everyone else is making moves. It’s easy to just zone out, sink into that comfortable numbness, but that's how you miss the turning points. So, brace yourself, grab another cup, and just... stay alert. 😉

Is this actually meant for people who genuinely want to learn something, or is it just for those looking to switch off their brains entirely and sink into that "here-and-now" delirium—you know, the kind where you just soak up the immediate chaos and store it away like some sort of emotional high?

Look, next time just go ahead and throw some actual names out there. You know as well as I do that’s what you’re itching for, and honestly, if you just lay it all out, I’ll be able to put together a much better response to whatever it is you've written.

I mean, it’s kind of my thought that some people just have this knack for talking about the supernatural in a way that sounds super clear and concrete, you know? And because they can spin those tales so convincingly, they end up being labeled as gurus, which basically turns them into these massive authorities on everything weird and unexplainable—and then everyone else just starts parroting whatever nonsense they put out there.

I guess what I’m getting at is that some people can probably take bits and pieces of whatever some guru just preached and actually make them sound clear and concrete, you know? Like, they can sharpen the edges of a specific point or two, but when it comes to the whole damn picture—the entire philosophy or the big picture—they just can't quite nail it. It’s like they can explain the ingredients but have absolutely no clue how to describe the actual meal.

I’m just saying, it feels like some people are totally fine with just latching onto some guru, following them around like lost puppies, and then just parroting back whatever they heard through their own filtered, half-baked version of what that leader actually said.

I mean, look, if people find out someone’s an infidel—or just doesn't toe the line like everyone else—then whatever they have to say about the supernatural stuff is basically dead on arrival. It’s like, once you're labeled as a dissenter, nobody wants to hear your take. They won't even grant you the basic level of self-awareness you need to actually explain an internal experience, or if they do, they’ll act like you barely have any consciousness at all. It’s a total shut-out from the jump.

I don't even have to look that far, honestly—it’s sitting right there in your next quote.
Man, that’s just total nonsense right there. Honestly, priests aren't some special breed of humans; they're just people who actually took the time to tap into their spiritual side and wake up to it, unlike everyone else out there who's just sleepwalking through life. And another thing... They aren't.

There it is! Right on cue. Honestly, it’s the exact same thing you hear from all those different crowds—Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, people obsessed with their horoscopes, even the Satanists and magicians—it’s all just the same old story, they just swap out the labels to fit their own little vibe.

Just because all these different spiritualities are popping up everywhere lately... I don't even know where to start with this one, honestly, because looking back at what was said, it feels like we're all just circling the drain of some massive misunderstanding that nobody actually wants to fix. I was sitting there thinking about how much time we waste arguing over semantics when the actual core of the issue is staring us right in the face, and frankly, it’s kind of embarrassing if I'm being real with myself. It’s like that old saying—or maybe it was just something I read once—about how people will fight over the color of the curtains while the whole house is literally on fire, you know? And look, I’m not trying to be that guy, the one who jumps in to play philosopher when everyone else is just trying to have a conversation, but I can't help but feel like we're missing the forest for the trees here. We get so caught up in who said what and who's "right" that we completely lose sight of the fact that we're all just humans trying to make sense of a chaotic mess. Anyway, I'm probably just rambling now, my brain is basically mush after today, but I felt like I had to say something before the thread just dissolves into more of the same nonsense.So, what’s the deal with all these different types of yoga people are obsessing over lately? Honestly, I don't even know where to start with it all. It feels like every time I turn around, there's some new "revolutionary" way to stretch or breathe that's supposed to fix your entire life, which sounds pretty ambitious if you ask me. One minute it's all about intense power moves, and the next, someone's telling you to just sit there in silence and find your inner peace—which, let's be real, is hard enough to do without adding extra steps. It's just one endless cycle of new trends, and frankly, I'm a little lost in the shuffle. I don't know, man, I was just sitting here thinking about how everything feels so incredibly heavy lately, you know? Like, you try to find some kind of solid ground, some actual substance in all this noise, but it's like trying to grab smoke with your bare hands. It’s exhausting, honestly. I feel like I’m constantly spinning my wheels, trying to make sense of things that probably don't even want to be understood, and maybe that's just me being a bit of a mess. I tend to overthink everything—it's a curse, really—but I can't help it. I just end up going down these rabbit holes where I start questioning if anything we see is even real or if we're all just playing parts in some massive, poorly written play. Anyway, I'm just rambling now. My bad. Just one of those days where my brain won't shut up.Look, just because you see more and more people out there chasing all these different kinds of spirituality doesn't mean they actually share some common ground. You can have a million different paths, but that doesn't mean they all lead back to one single foundation—that one core essence that acts as the universal denominator for anyone dabbling in the spiritual realm. Just because everyone is calling themselves "spiritual" nowadays doesn't mean there's one ultimate Truth that binds us all together, even if we'd like to think there is.

And why on earth would anyone even try to claim we’re culturally equal to... you know, whatever they're talking about? It just doesn't track. religious So, what’s the deal with these modern movements claiming they’ve finally cornered the market on the Truth? It makes me wonder why these trendy little ideologies feel such a desperate, clawing need for some kind of ultimate authority to back them up. Honestly, it feels like they can't even stand on their own two feet without some heavy-handed figurehead telling everyone how to think, which just seems... I don't know, a bit pathetic if you ask me. Why does every new social crusade need a drill sergeant to validate its existence?
Look, it’s kind of like how some teenager thinks they’re being all deep and sophisticated just because they’ve picked up a copy of Tolstoy, but honestly? They aren't any more special than some little kid in elementary school still getting a kick out of reading Šegrt Hlapić. 🤷

It’s pretty much like how a Catholic, a Muslim, or any other kind of exclusive truth-holder isn't going to sit there and agree with you that everyone should just bundle up under your specific, exclusive Truth. You know they won't:
It really comes down to the individual; not everyone is equally aware of what they've experienced, the intensity of those experiences varies wildly, and let's face it, not everyone is a smooth talker when it comes to putting things into words.

Anyway, my mom always tells this story about when I was just a little kid out on a boat for the first time, surrounded by nothing but deep blue water, and I looked at it and told her the ocean felt as thick as pudding! 😍
I guess my experience was just super intense and beautiful—mostly because I was absolutely obsessed with pudding back then 😁—but you have to wonder how some other kid would describe it, especially if they'd never even laid eyes on the ocean before.

But here, we’re talking about impressions that supposedly exist beyond our five senses, yet we're expected to convey them just by rearranging about thirty letters...🤷

The whole reason you even know you felt something is precisely because you have the ability to rearrange those thirty letters in different ways. So, claiming that you "know" something exists that is somehow fundamentally beyond your capacity to explain is just an absurdity; it completely undermines the whole argument that there's something out there you can feel but simply cannot articulate.


😍

Honestly, you remind me of that guy who asks a friend to explain what an orgasm even feels like because he’s never actually experienced one, and then when the friend describes it and concludes that sex is actually pretty great, the first guy just sits there thinking, "What kind of nonsense is this guy spouting? As if I don't already know what sex is!" 😂 😛
Personal accounts of brief vs. permanent awakenings in Spirituality ·
wearyowl29 said:I mean, sure, then they can just swing back and forth...

Look, Dagica, of course you can... honestly, don't even sweat it, the most important thing is just not to take any of this too seriously. 🙂
Personal accounts of brief vs. permanent awakenings in Spirituality ·
Peter Phillips32 said:It’s not even that the timing is bad for me or whatever, it’s just that I have absolutely no clue what anyone is actually talking about half the time. It feels like everyone is just standing around shouting their own personal life stories at each other, acting like we're all supposed to be in on the joke, but nobody bothers to actually explain what any of this nonsense means.

So, what's the deal?
Can I actually say what’s on my mind here without getting kicked out or treated like some kind of monster? Because honestly, I just want to stay on topic and ask actual questions. I'm tired of people trying to spin everything—even the stuff that clearly isn't—into this whole "it's all an expression of infinite love and universal connection" nonsense. It feels less like a conversation and more like they're just trying to recruit me into some cultish way of thinking. Is there room for a real debate here, or am I just being set up to be demonized if I don't swallow the hype?

I don't really have those kinds of stories to tell, you know? Not like the ones people around here seem so desperate to swap.
Honestly, I’m drawing a total blank right now when it comes to actually figuring out what kind of things these should be—you know, from an ontological standpoint. Like, if we're talking about the fundamental nature of what we're building here, my brain is just hitting a wall.
Spiritualists are just one more group in that endless line of organizations claiming they’ve got some exclusive, VIP pass to the ultimate truth—you know, that "secret sauce" of existence that supposedly explains everything. It's all a bit much if you ask me, but I'm curious to see how people handle certain questions, so let's get into it.

I mean, if someone can sit there and churn out entire novels worth of text just to complain about a few extra questions, what is actually the problem here?
It’s funny how people work, isn't it? You see everyone out there constantly picking apart religion like they're some kind of investigative journalists, tearing down dogmas and asking "why" until the clergy just wants to throw in the towel. And then you look at the alternative crowd—those folks obsessed with crystals, star charts, and whatever else is trending on TikTok—and they’re just as relentless with their questioning, always looking for that one secret truth or a loophole in the cosmic order. But then you hit this weird middle ground, this "spirituality" thing that’s basically just a messy cocktail of religious structure and alternative vibes, and suddenly everyone just... stops asking questions? It’s like they collectively decided to take a nap. Why is it that when you mix the two, the critical thinking part of the brain just checks out? It’s almost like once you blend them together, people feel they've reached some sort of final destination where everything is "just understood," and honestly, it feels a bit lazy if you ask me.
Honestly, words are such a flimsy, weak tool when you’re trying to actually express those deep realizations that hit you out of nowhere—you know, those sudden flashes of wisdom that just erupt from inside your gut and force you to face a finished truth, regardless of what you thought about it five minutes ago? It’s just... there. It is what it is. But look, we don't exactly have any other way to get it out there, especially in this digital wasteland we call the internet. 🤷

Look, I get it, plenty of people are gonna jump down my throat and tell me I’m dead wrong about words being a weak tool for actually getting at what’s buried deep inside someone—and honestly, they think they’ve proven me wrong just because they managed to put something into words that felt real to them, or maybe just something that felt true to everyone else in the room at the time. That’s just... whatever.Honestly, it’s just... I don't even know. There aren't enough words in the English language to actually pin this down, if you know what I mean. It's one of those things that stays totally beyond description.

That’s about all you can do, really. That's just... whatever. Look, when people start talking about spirituality and claiming certain things are "ineffable"—you know, that fancy way of saying words just can't touch it—they're basically playing a rigged game. You either have to actually prove why something can't be put into words, which is a massive uphill battle, or you’re just throwing up a dogma and calling it a day. It’s a lazy way out, honestly. To really claim something is beyond language, you’d have to go through and categorically tear down everything that everyone else has already managed to describe quite clearly. Because let's face it, half the time, people label stuff as "unexplainable" simply because they haven't even bothered to form a coherent thought about it yet. It's a convenient shield for when you don't have an actual idea.

Where on earth are you getting that from? 😕

It’s honestly just nonsense! Priests are nothing more than people who happened to discover and actually connect with their spiritual side, unlike everyone else who hasn't quite gotten there yet.

It’s pretty much the same logic as saying a teenager who gets lost in the pages of Tolstoy isn't any more special than a little kid who’s still obsessed with, I don't know, Šegrt Hlapić. 🤷

Peter Phillips32 said:It’s not even that the timing is bad for me or whatever, it’s just that I have absolutely no clue what anyone is actually talking about half the time. It feels like everyone is just standing around shouting their own personal life stories at each other, acting like we're all supposed to be in on the joke, but nobody bothers to actually explain what any of this nonsense means.

So, what's the deal?
Can I actually say what’s on my mind here without getting kicked out or treated like some kind of monster? Because honestly, I just want to stay on topic and ask actual questions. I'm tired of people trying to spin everything—even the stuff that clearly isn't—into this whole "it's all an expression of infinite love and universal connection" nonsense. It feels less like a conversation and more like they're just trying to recruit me into some cultish way of thinking. Is there room for a real debate here, or am I just being set up to be demonized if I don't swallow the hype?

I don't really have those kinds of stories to tell, you know? Not like the ones people around here seem so desperate to swap.
Honestly, I’m drawing a total blank right now when it comes to actually figuring out what kind of things these should be—you know, from an ontological standpoint. Like, if we're talking about the fundamental nature of what we're building here, my brain is just hitting a wall.
Spiritualists are just one more group in that endless line of organizations claiming they’ve got some exclusive, VIP pass to the ultimate truth—you know, that "secret sauce" of existence that supposedly explains everything. It's all a bit much if you ask me, but I'm curious to see how people handle certain questions, so let's get into it.

I mean, if someone can sit there and churn out entire novels worth of text just to complain about a few extra questions, what is actually the problem here?
It’s funny how people work, isn't it? You see everyone out there constantly picking apart religion like they're some kind of investigative journalists, tearing down dogmas and asking "why" until the clergy just wants to throw in the towel. And then you look at the alternative crowd—those folks obsessed with crystals, star charts, and whatever else is trending on TikTok—and they’re just as relentless with their questioning, always looking for that one secret truth or a loophole in the cosmic order. But then you hit this weird middle ground, this "spirituality" thing that’s basically just a messy cocktail of religious structure and alternative vibes, and suddenly everyone just... stops asking questions? It’s like they collectively decided to take a nap. Why is it that when you mix the two, the critical thinking part of the brain just checks out? It’s almost like once you blend them together, people feel they've reached some sort of final destination where everything is "just understood," and honestly, it feels a bit lazy if you ask me.
Honestly, words are such a flimsy, weak tool when you’re trying to actually express those deep realizations that hit you out of nowhere—you know, those sudden flashes of wisdom that just erupt from inside your gut and force you to face a finished truth, regardless of what you thought about it five minutes ago? It’s just... there. It is what it is. But look, we don't exactly have any other way to get it out there, especially in this digital wasteland we call the internet. 🤷

Look, I get it, plenty of people are gonna jump down my throat and tell me I’m dead wrong about words being a weak tool for actually getting at what’s buried deep inside someone—and honestly, they think they’ve proven me wrong just because they managed to put something into words that felt real to them, or maybe just something that felt true to everyone else in the room at the time. That’s just... whatever.Honestly, it’s just... I don't even know. There aren't enough words in the English language to actually pin this down, if you know what I mean. It's one of those things that stays totally beyond description.

That’s about all you can do, really. That's just... whatever. Look, when people start talking about spirituality and claiming certain things are "ineffable"—you know, that fancy way of saying words just can't touch it—they're basically playing a rigged game. You either have to actually prove why something can't be put into words, which is a massive uphill battle, or you’re just throwing up a dogma and calling it a day. It’s a lazy way out, honestly. To really claim something is beyond language, you’d have to go through and categorically tear down everything that everyone else has already managed to describe quite clearly. Because let's face it, half the time, people label stuff as "unexplainable" simply because they haven't even bothered to form a coherent thought about it yet. It's a convenient shield for when you don't have an actual idea.


It really just comes down to the individual, because not everyone is equally aware of what they’ve gone through, nor is the intensity of those experiences always the same, and let's face it, not everyone is an easy communicator either.

By the way, my mom always tells me that when I was a little girl sailing on a boat for the first time, surrounded by all that deep blue water, I looked at her and said the ocean felt as thick as pudding! 😍
I guess the experience was just that intense and beautiful for me—considering I was absolutely obsessed with pudding at the time 😁—but you have to wonder how another kid would describe it, especially if they’d never even seen the ocean before.

And here we are talking about impressions that go way beyond our five senses, yet we're expected to capture them just by stringing together thirty little letters... 🤷
Personal accounts of brief vs. permanent awakenings in Spirituality ·
wearyowl29 said:Honestly, all this talk about rain versus sunshine, black versus white, or awakening versus dreaming... it just doesn't sit right with me.

It's just exhausting....🙂

And that’s exactly why they say everyone will ultimately get exactly what they believed in... if you think about it, it all comes down to that... whether it's karma or just the way the universe settles its debts... 😉
And everyone knows that true character isn't revealed over a fancy Thanksgiving dinner... you only really find out what a person is made of when things actually start hitting the fan... 😁

Jokes aside, it’s pretty much the same story for all of us... because once you've actually finished school and dealt with the real world, you rarely ever find your way back up to this level again, and even if someone manages to claw their way back... people just don't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore anyway...
So, what’s actually left at the end of the day? You tell yourself you can handle it all on your own, that you’re your own boss and don't need the hand, and then you just let things run their course... how long it takes, well, it takes as long as it takes... but eventually, we’re all going to find our way back home, because there's no avoiding it, I suppose... it seems like it was just designed to be that simple, in the end... 🤷