Grading Freshmen
in Students & Teens ·
Tyler Reyes86 said:Oh, so little Ivica from IIIc is actually a college student now. My goodness, look at that! Who would have thought?
College exams are taken during specific exam periods, whereas in K-12, testing happens constantly because you have to continuously monitor the work of the students. In college, that isn't required. No one cares if a student studies regularly or if they were blessed by some fairy in their crib so they can cram the entire syllabus into two days and two nights. In many college courses, there aren't even midterms scheduled, or they are held right before the final exam period. Please, try to understand that the approach to young children has to be qualitatively different. Pedagogy is one discipline, while andragogy is quite another. That is why they are distinct sciences; otherwise, they would be one and the same. Children need to be raised and guided, whereas adults, if they choose, simply need to be taught, because their characters are already formed.
How do you think it has nothing to do with this? In your opinion, is that bolded part okay? Do you realize what kind of developmental problem it creates when children consume garbage in their spare time? That kind of content has a massive impact on their behavior and their values. Generally speaking, school isn't just an educational institution; it's supposed to be a formative one. Or rather, it *should* be.
But I will agree with you on one point. If a school doesn't want to be a formative institution—if the primary focus is solely on a student's innate abilities and their test scores, measured by universal criteria that are identical for everyone—then the school should be designed using a university model. In that case, tracking a student's regular daily work becomes completely pointless; instead, they should just implement exam periods, with all the same options for retakes that college students have.
Because the worst kind of school is one that merely pretends to care about character building, while the teachers couldn't care less about the moral messages they are sending students through their comments, grades, and assessments. If that's the case, it would be more honest not to call them a school at all, but rather a miniature university for children.
Ha, under the current credit system, you've got three midterms, homework, and class assignments, but no set deadlines... Basically, *when* you learn something is critical, because if you fall behind on a single module by even a day or two, you're looking at a failing grade.
And let's be honest, school hasn't been a formative institution for a long time; it's become a factory for churning out obedient sheep. How can you call something a formative institution when it "treats" a kid's ADHD by shoving them into a desk next to some quiet poor soul, or when it "punishes" physical discipline with nothing more than a lecture? Is it really a formative institution when they just move a kid who was disciplined into a different classroom? Let's stop lying to ourselves...
dustysailor13 said:Clearly you don't have kids in school. First semester is uppercase/lowercase print and addition/subtraction up to 10. Second semester is addition/subtraction up to 20 plus cursive... and I disagree that the pace is slow. My kid has a textbook, a workbook, AND an activity book, not to mention extra worksheets... My kid is juggling 10 subjects in first grade alone. Someone mentioned foreign languages—we're doing English and Spanish (via a language academy), and since day one, they've been learning how to read and write them. It’s no big deal because American kids start writing these subjects early, and personally, I think that's better for them... My son stays for after-school care, but he still does homework at home. Not because he's lazy, but because I insist on it. There are too many kids in after-school programs for one teacher to handle everything, so it's easier for them to just fix mistakes or write in the correct answers for them. Personally, I don't want my kid turning in homework where 90% of it was already corrected by the teacher (not blaming the teacher, though—blame the system. They need more staff to actually manage the numbers), I want him to learn how to be independent with his responsibilities... I've never questioned a teacher's grading, and I won't start now. I'm not an expert. A teacher only sees a kid for a few hours a day, not 24/7, so they grade based on what they see. I'm happy with my kid's teacher, not because of the grades, but because of the fair, honest, and—as some of you say—strict grading standards. And it makes me happy to see how much respect my kid has for his teacher...🙂🙂🙂
Workbooks, math books, and worksheets don't increase the curriculum; they are there to help so kids don't have to waste time copying problems the teacher made up. I truly don't see how you could reduce the first-semester first-grade curriculum, which is just addition up to 10 and learning print letters. What would satisfy you? Addition up to 5 and writing letters only up to the letter K?
Austin Chavez5 said:I honestly cannot wrap my head around parents who sit there judging everyone else for wanting their kids to be straight-A students, while simultaneously bragging about how their own kids are geniuses. It’s such a hypocritical mess. And don't even get me started on those people claiming three-year vocational high schools are "perfect" because you can just "re-skill or go back to school later." Give me a break! They completely ignore the fact that the education in those programs is absolute garbage—you end up with kids who graduated from a bakery program somehow ending up as auto mechanics. It makes zero sense.
If you ask me, it’s much smarter to become a tile setter, a bricklayer, or a plumber than to aim for roles like an economist, an administrative assistant, or a paralegal. The first group can easily pull in five or six times more than the latter. For a paralegal, landing a cushy government job paying $1267 feels like the ultimate dream, whereas a skilled tile setter can easily clear $10,000 a month without breaking a sweat. And don't even get me started on all the specialized grants and scholarships available for those high-demand trades.