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Budget PC build around $500? in Desktops ·
Samuel Castillo49 said:Using an SSD is just a matter of personal preference, and $100 isn't something you can ignore on a budget build because that money could easily mean the difference between a decent GPU or a better CPU. I have a slightly more expensive laptop as well as a desktop, and I don't use an SSD; I don't need one at all. I've worked on plenty of machines without them and I don't miss it one bit—everything runs perfectly fine and fast for me. I'd much rather spend that cash on a better monitor, a better component, or something else entirely.

Regarding future upgrades; the power supply is weak, the motherboard is mediocre (only 2 RAM slots to boot with), and the processor might be underpowered in 3-4 years (even the Ryzen 3 2200). Sometimes you buy something built for the long haul, and sometimes you buy something for the short term like this case, depending on your budget and what you need.

An SSD isn't a "personal preference." An SSD is clearly newer, superior technology compared to an HDD, which is becoming obsolete. The only thing keeping HDDs alive is the price-to-capacity ratio, nothing more. And even then, SSDs are catching up since you can already find a 250GB SSD for less than $167.

If you want to talk about preferences between Intel and AMD, fine, but you're claiming there's no difference between an HDD and an SSD when, in the hardware world, an SSD is becoming the standard.
Either you simply don't know what you're talking about, or you're the type of person who clings to crazy personal beliefs and refuses to accept what aren't "preferences," but facts.

That’s not even the issue, though. The issue is that you're passing off your nonsense idea that "an SSD isn't necessary" to other people. That's where the trouble starts. Because if someone takes it upon themselves to give advice to others, they should actually know what they're talking about when they give it—which obviously isn't the case here, considering you're spouting garbage that not one single hardware expert would agree with. Whether it's on this forum or anywhere else.

Furthermore, you're talking about a build I didn't put together—which we've already established isn't the way to go—just like you claim the "processor might be weak," yet you included a G4560 in your own setup, which is not only weaker than a Ryzen 3 2200 but sits on a dead platform. You're literally contradicting yourself.

The point is exactly what Amy Vaughn12 said: with a Ryzen 3 2200, there's enough power to run the games mentioned, and by adding an SSD along with the ability to upgrade both the CPU and the GPU later, you won't be stuck in a dead end like you would be with the worst possible combo: a G4560 and a 1050Ti.
Budget PC build around $500? in Desktops ·
Samuel Castillo49 said:An SSD just doesn't fit into budget builds; you really have to dump most of your resources into the GPU and scrape by on everything else. Besides, there isn't much room for upgrades later anyway, so maybe choosing a G4560 + 1050Ti would be better than an R3 1200 + RX 560.

Who says there won't be upgrades? Back in the day, an SSD didn't make the cut when 120GB was considered a luxury. Now that you can find them for cheap $100, it’s a shame not to include one in any build, regardless of the budget.

Ultimately, it depends on what the builder wants. Either squeeze out every possible FPS right now, or look a bit further ahead and consider the upgrade path.

Personally, I'd go with the Ryzen combo because it offers a clear upgrade path; your suggestion of a G4560 and 1050Ti is basically a dead end. That said, the R3 1200 and RX 560 combo also feels like a bad deal to me since the 2200G gives you a GPU in the range of an RX 550 and a CPU for $267.
Advice for buying a gaming PC! in Desktops ·
Budget's a bit tight, but here’s how I’d play it:

ASUS Prime B360M-A, LGA 1151 8th Gen
Intel Core i5-8400
8GB DDR4 (1x8GB) Crucial, 2666MHz
FSP 550W Hexa 85+
1TB Toshiba P300 HDD
240GB Western Digital WD Green SSD
Gainward NVIDIA GTX 1060 6g
Zalman Z1 NEO mid tower case

Total is $600,$314 Best Buy

There isn't much room to squeeze more savings out of this.
You could $33 cut costs by switching to an ITX build with a single-fan version of the same card, but honestly, I don't think it's worth it.
Maybe grab a 120GB SSD instead to save a few bucks, but again, probably not worth the headache.
You could switch to Ryzen to save $10 a little, but for gaming, I still think the i5 is the way to go—especially now that B360 motherboards are out, so you aren't stuck buying a massive Z370 just to run a standard i5.

I checked a few different retailers, but this looks like the best deal I could find. Maybe wait a bit longer and see if someone else comes up with a better combo.
New deals just landed at Best Buy CLICK

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gaming PC build $1000 in Desktops ·
Matthew White6 said:Successfully swapped out the 5400 RPM HDD for a 7200 RPM one and replaced the 2x4GB RAM with a single 8GB stick.

Nice. 👍 I thought you had already placed the order. If you can still catch it in time, swap that motherboard out for one of the ones we talked about—either the ASRock AB350 Pro4 or the Gigabyte AB350 Gaming3.
GPU Buying Guide - (Read first post) in Desktops ·
She really lost her cool 😁
gaming PC build $1000 in Desktops ·
Matthew White6 said:I'll try swapping out the drives, and when the time is right, I'll just toss in some 2x8GB sticks for the RAM.

The issue is you’re going to have to sell off those two current sticks since they're hogging both slots. Honestly, I don't know why you rushed this order; you basically made a massive, unnecessary mess, but hey, it is what it is. And that 5400 rpm HDD 🤮 Since you have an SSD, it’s not the end of the world, but still—totally pointless.
gaming PC build $1000 in Desktops ·
Go with either an ASRock AB350 Pro4 or a Gigabyte gaming motherboard; one of those should do the trick. I'm not sure about the case, but a Zalman would probably be your best bet—though honestly, it isn't a huge deal.
Thoughts on replacing damaged parts? in Desktops ·
Jerry Scott said:Sure thing, I'll keep that in mind.

Take 2: View on imgur

Would this be a better move for the RAM? I also picked out a slightly beefier power supply, just to be safe. :slap:

If you're already stretching the budget a bit for the PSU, grab a Corsair CX M series for $6.75 more CLICK.

Go with the cheaper, faster RAM—how much extra cash you want to dump into speed is really up to you. Just don't forget to tell the shop to flash the BIOS to the latest version. They should handle it themselves since the PC probably won't run right without the updated BIOS and they need to test it anyway, but it doesn't hurt to mention it.
Thoughts on replacing damaged parts? in Desktops ·
Samuel Castillo49 said:It’s probably not an issue with the motherboard itself. This newer series of processors requires a more recent BIOS version (v4.xx), yet retailers keep stocking boards with older BIOS versions meant for the first generation of Ryzen (v3.xx). Just make sure to tell them when you're buying it to flash it to the latest available BIOS version for those new Ryzen chips (v4.xx).

^ This. That board is actually one of the best buys on the market right now; you really can't go wrong with it. Like I said, running in single channel mode while using integrated graphics—especially AMD graphics—is just a huge waste, and it’s going to cost you much more in performance $33 than it's worth.
Thoughts on replacing damaged parts? in Desktops ·
Bryan Taylor6 said:It doesn't strictly need 2x4GB; it'll run on just 8GB, though it'll be a bit slower... maybe 10-15% drop, and mainly in graphics performance... check this out



I think if you go with 2x4GB and split 2GB for video memory and leave the rest for system RAM, everything will run smoothly and games won't stutter much... Battlefield 1, COD WWII, Wolfenstein 2—you can run all those with 6GB of RAM...

Down the road, you can just grab a dedicated GPU and get an extra 2GB of RAM, or sell these two sticks and pick up 2x8GB once RAM prices drop a bit...

I don't know how you crunched those numbers, man, but the difference is way more than 10-15%, as you can see more clearly HERE.

If you aren't sure about what you're saying, it's better not to suggest anything at all. Anyone with even a basic understanding of hardware knows what dual channel means for integrated graphics. You get double the bus width, which results in twice the memory bandwidth. Here's a little education for you CLICK

Besides, the ASRock board is only about $10 more, which is definitely worth it—not just for the extra RAM slots, but because of the overall build quality, the VRM phase design for overclocking, the VRM heatsinks, and so on.

And it'll run "Battlefield" a lot better. 😬
Thoughts on replacing damaged parts? in Desktops ·
Jerry Scott said:I took it to a repair shop and that's what the tech told me. If I understood him correctly, the graphics card will run, but it's going to struggle with things like Maya and stuff like that.

I'm not interested in overclocking, so that's not an issue. My main priority is longevity. This current setup has lasted me nearly 6 years, so I want something that will survive at least another 5 and can handle this specific graphics card.

Regarding the RAM, does it need both slots filled, or will it just perform poorly with a single 8 GB stick? I'd hate to invest in 2X4GB only to have to pull one out later. On the other hand, buying 2X8GB is just too expensive for me right now.

Don't go with an A320 motherboard unless you absolutely have to because of a tight budget. Grab the ASRock B350 Pro4 and put in 2x4GB. Using any kind of APU without dual channel is terrible here because you end up with half the memory bandwidth using just one stick.
Need help with my build! in Desktops ·
Timothy Kim60 said:Sometimes with Imgur, you have to manually delete the "i." from the URL just to get the image to actually show up.

For some reason, my browser just opens it in incognito mode automatically, strips the "i" from the URL, and loads everything perfectly fine.🤷
Advice for buying a gaming PC! in Desktops ·
crimsonstag84 said:1 x AMD Ryzen 3 1200
1 x ASRock AB350 PRO4, AM4
1 x Gigabyte GF GTX1050 OC, 2GB GDDR5
1 x Crucial DRAM 8GB Kit (4GBx2) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) CL17 SR x8 Unbuffered DIMM 288pin, EAN: 649528769824
1 x Toshiba P300 1TB, 64MB, 7200rpm
1 x SSD 2.5" - 240GB PNY, CS900 SATA3
1 x Fortron power supply Hexa 85+ 550W, 80+ Bronze, ATX
1 x Zalman mid Tower case Black
1 x AOC LCD 23.8", IPS WLED, HDMI, 4ms
1 x Genius SlimStar 130 keyboard, USB, black
1 x Gembird Illuminated large size mouse, USB
1 x Genius SP-HF160 wooden speakers, 4W, USB

Total: $2052 Futura-IT

👍

If you put it together better, you get a 240GB SSD instead of a 120
Advice for buying a gaming PC! in Desktops ·
Case -
GPU -
SSD -
Motherboard -

Regarding the monitor, I have no clue what they're thinking since it's listed as available at CLICK.

It’s all more or less the same stuff. I assume things will end up being pricier because those RX cards aren't around anymore, so I swapped in a GTX 1050 as a replacement. It's definitely about 200 $100 more expensive than that RX card at its current price of roughly $400.

Performance-wise, it's practically identical. The biggest drawback is the lack of VRAM; that RX card had 4GB while this 1050 only has 2GB.
If you want 4GB, you'll have to step up to a much pricier 1050Ti, which you can find for around $500. A 560 with that much VRAM is barely even on the market, and where you do find them, the prices are insanely inflated considering the 1050Ti is noticeably stronger anyway.
Used Intel CPU prices? in Desktops ·
crimsonstag84 said:@Adam Moore3

https://www.ebay.com/itm/example-listing

This one is right in front of you if you're looking for a massive upgrade—it might even be a steal. I guess it’s worth asking if the listing isn't just some internet troll. 😛

Disney, what even is this? 😲

If I weren't a broke college student, I'd drop an extra seven grand on this in a heartbeat. 😬

Otherwise, I'd consider upgrading that old rig if I could find something dirt cheap—like an i5 for maybe sixty bucks—but looks like I'll be waiting a while for that.

And honestly, that ad looks way too good to be true.
Used Intel CPU prices? in Desktops ·
I think I’ll just stick to my original plan and wait if a solid deal pops up. I'm in no rush; I honestly just never understood why people still put Intel on such a pedestal. analogtiger19, let me know via DM if you decide to go through with it. 😁

I don't want to sink more than a grand into this build, especially since the power supply is giving me a headache. I just stumbled upon an old thread where crimsonstag84 put a rig together using a 350W Chicony, and trying to cram an i7 into that feels way too risky. Honestly, if I have to replace the PSU too, it’s barely worth the effort—I might as well just save up for a new laptop. You can find something with a GTX1050 and an i5 7300HQ for around $550.

Though... 15.6" vs 22"... 🕺
Used Intel CPU prices? in Desktops ·
First off, the motherboard is an Intel H81. I can't quite remember if it's the ASUS H81M-C or the E version, but I don't feel right pairing an i7 with this thing 😁
Secondly, I barely ever use this PC, so I'm not looking to dump a ton of cash into it. I was thinking more along the lines of $1,000, which would cover the CPU, an SSD, and maybe another 4GB of RAM (since it only has 4GB in there right now). It’s an old setup that hasn't been my main rig for ages, but when I get home, it’s just nicer to boot something up on a 22" monitor rather than squinting at my 15.6" laptop screen. 😉

Besides, my dad could really use an SSD for when he's paying bills or hopping on Skype 😬

But I honestly don't get it—how can a slightly older generation still hold such a high price tag? Even here in the States... 🤷
Used Intel CPU prices? in Desktops ·
I’ve got an old rig at home running a G3220 and a 260X, and I’m thinking about swapping in a used i5, but the pricing just doesn't make sense to me. You can find an i5 3xxx—just one generation older—for about $3 $133 but nothing for an i5 4460/40 on Newegg stays under $2 $400. I see them on eBay for around $9, including shipping, but honestly, that feels like way too much when you consider what you can pick up today for $300.

Am I missing something here? 🤔
Budget PC build under $800 in Desktops ·
Yeah, you're right. I totally missed the fact that it's an A320 chipset board. It's definitely in there somewhere, my bad.