Watch out for the fine print—you never know if there's a pig in a poke. Man, buying used is always such a gamble.
wanderingbison9 said:Just opened the link... $167 RX 580? What's a fair price for one used these days? If I can't get anything decent, I might just hold onto mine...
You might be able to squeeze out 700, but I really had to dig around to find that one for 500. Even so, I wouldn't expect much more than that. Well, Ethereum finally made the switch to Proof of Stake. Honestly, there’s zero difference now between the 8GB and 4GB versions.
granitebison said:Hey, I could use some help here.
I'm looking for the best bang for my buck on a GPU. I just want something that can handle any game released up through 2013 without breaking a sweat—let's say GTA 5 is the benchmark.
Can I find anything decent on eBay for around 300-$167?
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It was probably used for crypto mining, but it should be fine.
No worries. By the way, I went with the 500GB SSD since that’s what was in the build you originally suggested. If I run out of space later, it'll be a breeze to just pop in a 👍 .
You could go even cheaper by swapping the 5700X for an R5 5600 and picking a budget motherboard and case. That would put you closer to $0.00, with performance matching what you're seeing at Links.
You don't need an extra cooler; the stock one included with the CPU will be fine. I wouldn't bother with a dual-core CPU. I think you're still looking at around $300 with just these two parts. If you want to shave another hundred bucks off the price, you could go with the 4600G instead - https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5-4600G-Desktop-Processor/dp/B08X4Z6S7P
I’d personally go with a Ryzen 5600G instead; picking up an i3 for $333 just doesn't feel like a smart move. It might cost you a few extra bucks in total, but you're getting a massive jump in both CPU and GPU horsepower. That said, for what you're trying to do, you really can't go too wrong.
If you can find an NVIDIA RTX 3060 Ti for around $350 locally, there's really no need to be scouring Amazon. As for the prices themselves—finally, things are looking up. We're actually seeing some movement. Just a few months ago, the cheapest 6700 was $1667.
Lawrence Phillips said:Are you serious? I was watching some clips on YouTube and it looked to me like the frame rate difference was way more than just 60%.
You are. The gap ranges from about 60% up to double, depending on which title you're looking at.
Forget those spec sheets; they’re just rough guidelines, much like how not every 600W power supply is created equal. You can find 600W units designed for $50 and others that only pull $167 for 🙂 . The power supply you (or rather, "you all" 😬) have is more than sufficient, though how much you're willing to shell out is a different story entirely. 😉
Even the RTX 3060 isn't a bad buy—it'll perform about 60-100% better depending on the game. You can usually snag one for around $733
Aha, okay. When you mentioned "older games," I was actually thinking about stuff released more than five years ago. But yeah, if you're looking to run newer titles at higher settings, then your graphics card is definitely going to be your primary bottleneck. Right now, the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 and the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti are pretty solid buys for around $360-$$1233. The 3070 generally offers a bit more raw power, but DLSS gives the NVIDIA cards a huge edge in any title that supports it (and plenty of modern games do, or will soon), so it's up to you. Ray tracing is another area where NVIDIA blows the competition out of the water, so decide what matters most to you.
I’d definitely suggest upgrading the GPU first; that'll give you an immediate, massive performance boost. The Intel Core i5-10400 is still a more than capable processor for gaming.
Your graphics card is definitely the bottleneck here; you aren't going to see much of a boost just by swapping out the Processor. Especially if you aren't chasing those high refresh rate FPS numbers for competitive gaming. So, I'd say forget about upgrading the Processor for now and look into grabbing something like an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 or a 3060 Ti instead.
BTW, how much RAM are you running and do you have an SSD? It seems a bit odd to me when you say you're playing 'older games on mid-high settings,' because that specific combo isn't really all that old or bad.
There isn't any major difference here; both options are perfectly fine. It's not some power-hungry card that runs hot enough to cause serious thermal issues, which is a common headache with certain models. That card usually goes for around $450 without any discount, so this is definitely not an offer you want to pass up. At $375, it's already a pretty solid price, so I'd personally go with that version.
What's your take on the one listed above? I'm mostly looking at the graphics card since I want to hook this up to a 4K TV...🕺
I didn't get a chance to ask, but does it look like there's no SSD included?? Am I right about that?
If you're thinking about actually gaming in 4K... forget about used builds for $500. You need serious GPU horsepower for 4K gaming. If it's just for movies, you can get by with the integrated graphics on an Intel Core i5-12400 in a new build for about $1000.
The seller barely provided any actual specs regarding the motherboard, processor, power supply, SSD, or that "500GB fast drive." 😵
All we know for sure is there's an RX 580 in there. Whether that 8-core FX8300 CPU is ten years old (which is highly likely) or some Core i7 (highly unlikely at that price point), we have no clue. Because of those unknowns, you're also left guessing about the rest of the build—like the RAM and the motherboard.
Get more details first before anyone can give you a real opinion, but looking at this ad right now... it's pretty sketchy. If it actually had a Core i7, he probably would have mentioned it immediately.
That’s just how they write the processor specs in the product title, and it honestly varies from one online retailer to the next. Some shops just list the component name and model, while others dump the entire spec sheet right into the heading. The bottom line is that it’s the exact same Intel Core i5-12400 processor you can find pretty much anywhere.