Posts by Tyler Scott3

Peace be upon you.

I’d like to ask the admins to close this thread.

rowdyhawk10 said:Change the color to red. 😢

You should probably just head back to the Reddit. 🙂 Or go ahead and open a new complaint specifically about me if you want.
The topic here was regarding our colleague Nicole James, and we've already settled it.
It would have been much smarter if you had just stayed on this. 😢 Peace

Wait, a complaint specifically about me?

The situation with Nicole James was the exact same. She jumps into threads and clears out anyone who disagrees.

Only difference is she's smarter about it. She stepped back to let us vent here.

But I'm not buying it.

Look, she doesn't even have to reply, but I want it known that I see what's happening—and so do the other users watching this. If she doesn't feel the need to defend her moderator honor, fine by me.

It really speaks to the kind of community we're building here, among other things.🙂

rowdyhawk10 said:Fine, let's just say I am. Are you finally planning on coming back to Reddit? 🙂

Take it easy, rowdyhawk10. We’ve still got Scott Nguyen2 throwing out accusations about "Wahhabis," the whole black-and-white thing, and all that...
Let's slow down and take this one step at a time. We're done once you realize how big of a mistake you made and publicly own up to it.🙂

Are we asking for too much? So far, you haven't actually contributed anything to us. At least give us something useful. (And don't just say "everyone relax, I just want peace...")
Give us something real, then maybe we'll consider if it's worth trying to move past this whole book of grievances.
Do we deserve better? Honestly, we've already gotten used to not posting. Aside from right here, which doesn't even really count as posting.

Let me expand on that a bit...

rowdyhawk10, look, this Reddit is meant for discussion. Fine. You can argue, find solutions, or offer answers in any thread. Except for the technical ones. We don't bicker there. Islam 114 is technical. You missed the mark there. Whenever I—or anyone else—gets something wrong in a technical thread, I own it, because we’re talking about expertise, not just casual forum chatter. Try to at least draw a line between the two.

Here’s where you went wrong:

Taking a Quranic Verse and interpreting it however you feel like (with all those hypocrites saying "FMN wanted this" or "FMN meant that" regarding the verse...)

We don't do that, rowdyhawk10. It's a Quranic Verse. FMN provides the verse. Anyone even remotely familiar with Islam knows you don't just interpret verses on a whim without authorization (unless it's for yourself).

Do you see what I'm saying now?

And now look at the consequences of breaking Sharia. At most, it's a 30-point penalty. That's nothing. What I wrote above is the important part.

So, you actually had the nerve to claim that, by your interpretation, the verse has nothing to do with the question, ruggedwolf? Get it?

That kind of move is extremely dangerous.

It would have been just as bad if you'd claimed FMN just threw out a verse for no reason. If you had, FMN would be dead to me forever—considered crazy, unstable, or an enemy of Islam.

It's dangerous, rowdyhawk10.

But one thing: my mistake was human. Fix everything that's wrong.

P.S. S. Delete. Sorry...

rowdyhawk10 said:rowdyhawk10.

For first graders.
Once you and ruggedwolf finally wrap your heads around what’s actually written there, let me know.
P.S. The blue text represents links you should click on, and then you can read whatever pops up after that. Thanks.[/I]

Man, brother... listen.
Look, get this straight. Nobody is claiming it’s actually permitted. No one is saying it isn't a sin, either. We're simply stating that it doesn't result in leaving Islam—and honestly, we settled that debate a long time ago, didn't we? Semek already laid it out. [Link] Straight from the official Islamic Community of America website. Here it is: A Muslim woman marrying a non-Muslim is considered a major sin, though it doesn't technically take her out of the faith. So, I suppose her prayers, fasting, and other good deeds would still be valid...This discussion really should have ended already. I guess there isn't much point in dragging it out further. You might want to remember that you're in the same position yourself. Here. He actually wrote that he was mistaken?!?! 🙄 It was quite nice of you to say that back then.

And one more thing. FMN wasn't banned because of ruggedwolf, I swear to God! It was actually because of what he said to Salaf: I’d honestly be happy to take a three-day ban... because I’ll just tell you exactly what you are—a complete idiot, a total jerk, and so on. So go ahead, ban me now. I'm not entirely sure exactly what he said or what kind of insults he threw out there. But apparently, that's why he got banned, rather than for citing Quranic Verse 4.141. Personally, I feel like he only cost us about 30 points. Honestly, the world wouldn't have ended, and FMN could have just kept posting on Reddit.

Dervish, I swear by whatever you hold most dear, please don't let these trolls get to you anymore. You were so kind yesterday, checking in on me, Nicole James, and everyone else. Kenneth Peterson5 was absolutely thrilled, and honestly, I was too. I suspect you were feeling pretty good about it as well. A lot of us felt that sense of connection. So why go back to this? Why would you let a few trolls slide into your DMs and manipulate you into thinking you somehow "betrayed" the cause? I suppose one might wonder when exactly what you accomplished yesterday actually counted as a true victory.Can we please go back to yesterday’s decision? It seems like a lot of people are getting emotional over this. You should really get back to discussing Religion with everyone else; I guess this isn't the only thing Islam has to offer. Keep fighting the good fight. Maybe try reaching out to ruggedwolf in a private message to clear the air? Connect with the Sunnah again. Listen to what Bradley Davis33 has to say. We need to breathe some life back into the Techie community. Let's stand up against those who want to undermine us and enrich Islam-114. There are so many topics waiting for answers. Just... maybe don't keep going down that path with ruggedwolf. Perhaps you two just aren't seeing eye to eye. Please come back to the Reddit community; it's becoming far too costly otherwise. Is our community really meant to be destroyed like this? What is the actual price of that? Peace.

You really don't get it. Fine, you're narrow-minded. Whatever. It is what it is.

Anyway, peace be upon you. I thought you were a bad person, but you're just limited. It's not a big deal. At least you're healthy.👍

dustybear7 said:There's nowhere left for us to actually speak our minds, so I'm done. That's it.

Thanks, housewife. That’s exactly what I expect from everyone else here.

Just a quick refresher.

I accused rowdyhawk10 of being unfit for moderation because he can't grasp or admit when he's wrong. It’s a massive mistake. It calls into question the mental stability of the entire FMN community. It also shows that rowdyhawk10 can't process basic logical dialogue between users, which means he's either limited or—even worse—deliberately playing dumb just to push his own agenda or the administration's. Imagine that.

Since his behavior threatens the preservation of Islamic Science, which we've been studying here for years, I believe the sacrifices we make (the bickering, the attacks, the discomfort...) are completely worth it.

(This applies to any professional field, by the way. I don't want this to look like just some random Muslims complaining about other Muslims... this is about expertise.)

If he finally realizes where he messed up, we expect an apology. That would prove he's someone we can actually rely on when things go sideways, whether intentionally or not.

The fact that he keeps digging in to defend a position that is clearly wrong (which I've already proven) tells us he'll justify any stance using whatever means necessary.

That does nothing but damage Islamic Science. I believe it's a duty to call out someone like this, especially when they hold power.

ruggedwolf said:I know exactly what's written there, and I also know what isn't.

🙂🙂

Great. We're one step closer to the dream. Now if only rowdyhawk10 could wrap his head around it. I'm just sitting here waiting.☕

rowdyhawk10.

Using that relentless "Monty Python" style logic, Dervish is actually trying to convince us in this thread that verse 4:141 proves some kind of "falling out of Islam." It’s obvious to any sane person that the verse in no way — not even in the most abstract possible combinations — refers to a Muslim woman marrying a non-Muslim. Even Monty Python couldn't make a stretch that ridiculous. But apparently, that's where FMN and Dervish are headed.

For the first graders here:

Let me know when you and ruggedwolf finally wrap your heads around what's written there.

P.S. The blue text is a link you need to click, then read the text that pops up. Thx.

And stop spamming my thread. This whole thing is just a display of how incompetent moderators Nicole James and rowdyhawk10 are.
rowdyhawk10 can't grasp the text in the link, and Nicole James is biased—she knows it too, but she's just out there acting like she's got college duties to attend to...

You guys have completely lost it. rowdyhawk10 and ruggedwolf. I’m the idiot for even bothering to argue with you people. Honestly, I might as well just ban myself.

Long live freedom from these sick forum minds. Viva la revolution!🙂:klap:

P.S. Nicole James is right about the anchoring. My bad, I apologize.

ruggedwolf said:But it’s not like that—it doesn't mean someone is kicked out of the faith—and I was actually just searching through everything to find exactly where it says that. That specific Quranic Verse isn't talking about being expelled from the religion. It's like how drinking alcohol is forbidden; sure, if you drink it, you're committing a sin, but you haven't left the faith unless you actually start claiming that sin is permissible. Even the official stance from the Islamic Community here in the States—which I quoted earlier—makes it clear that one isn't cast out of the religion.

Exactly—your reaction to sensitive Shady was what triggered that doubt regarding the FMN response, which basically means you led him astray in a way, and that’s why I had to give you a warning. Honestly, I just hope you finally grasp the point I'm trying to make here.

Just give yourself a break—seriously, go easy on yourself. It’s honestly wild how you just pin everything on someone else; I guess that’s always the easiest way out.
Here’s how things went down:

You’ve been constantly accusing me, claiming that FMN got banned because of me—which just isn't true.

You accused me of derailing the conversation, which is just flat-out wrong—if anything, you’re the one who took us off track here. We ended up talking about interfaith marriages only because you were the one who challenged me back on that Islam 114 thread, basically daring me to prove how good I was at debating. It’s way too easy to downplay how serious a commandment actually is—you can basically take a major sin and spin it until it looks like nothing more than a minor religious oversight.After that, I mentioned to you that Koby had started a new thread about interfaith marriages, so maybe you could give that a shot.

Since you basically folded in your very first post when you realized there was no way to actually prove your point, you just pivoted the whole conversation toward weighing sins—and then you went ahead and started equating a woman marrying outside the faith with a murderer or someone committing shirk.
You accused me of being the one who derailed the thread—seriously? Just take a second to look at my posts, then look at yours, and actually compare them. Don't go pinning someone else's garbage on me just because they're the ones leaving it all over the place.

So, this guy boldgull19 is chiming in with this whole argument—claiming that a woman married to a non-Muslim is somehow worse than a murderer. He’s actually going as far as to say she’s spiritually murdering her own children... as if you can’t lead a spiritually vibrant life unless you happen to be Muslim. It’s wild, really. And the kicker? He doesn't seem to notice his own spiritual emptiness while he's busy judging everyone else—all while claiming to be a devout Muslim himself.

After I’ve spent God knows how many times asking for actual proof—you know, just a shred of logic—this person tries to cover up their total lack of an argument by throwing personal insults my way. They actually called me a half-believer just because I refuse to go around kicking people out of the faith. It's honestly exhausting when people resort to that instead of actually addressing the point.

I’m just going to skip over all the chauvinistic comments for now. Besides, he’s insulting both me and Bradley Davis33—even though she didn't even address him directly.

And you actually sided with him after he got banned for those kinds of insults and trolling—both in the thread itself and in his formal appeal. Yet, here you are, filing an appeal because you think insults toward other users should be allowed. Honestly, I have to hand it to you... that is some world-class hypocrisy right there.

After the Sunnah community chimed in—totally shocked by what they found written there—she responded in pure disbelief, pointing out that she’s actually married to a Catholic. And honestly? Not a single soul had the decency to apologize for misidentifying her as a killer. Instead, people were busy telling her she’d committed a sin even worse than physical murder—claiming she’s spiritually killing her children and living in sin, and just going on and on like that. Not a single apology. None.

" It’s better to tear down a church than to break someone’s heart "

Here is how she operates:

among other things, she says I wouldn't want to be in your shoes (once the consequences finally catch up to you)

After this lady got banned—and we're talking about comments that even Yazid would have been jealous of—you suddenly start feeling bad for her because she was kicked off the platform? So now you're sympathizing with her just because of the ban? Why the sudden change of heart?

You guys accused me before God—you mocked me, saying how God would humiliate me even further (as if I wasn't already humiliated enough by you all, and acting like you won't even talk to me anymore just so you don't have to deal with more humiliation) —and you called me a hypocrite, a half-believer (which, since you can't really be a "half-believer," basically means you were calling me an infidel). All of this just because I refused to label anyone else as an unbeliever! Look, Islam isn't your private property to gatekeep, and you certainly don't have the authority to excommunicate people from the faith—especially not someone who identifies as a Muslim.
The sheer arrogance and condescension you displayed! The insults, the mockery, the way you laughed right in my face! Where do you get the right to cast someone out of the faith? You act so incredibly superior, as if you possess some flawless moral high ground that gives you the permission to point fingers at everyone else's sins and exile them from Islam. Oh, I see—you're all "better" than the rest of us now, aren't you? Entitled to look down on those you deem "worse" and declare them non-believers!
Then, a few days later, over on the Islam 114 thread, you come after me again, calling me a hypocrite and a half-believer. Well, it took me a moment to realize that you were actually using that Quranic Verse to imply I was being a hypocrite—so, thanks for that.
I just want to tell you one thing. I am not what you claim I am. And that poor girl following the Sunnah isn't what you labeled her either. None of the things you said about her or me were actually true.
But you certainly said a lot about yourselves.

Look, sister. If I ever actually thought you were a hypocrite, I’d tell you straight to your face. But I won't.

Everything else is just your lack of logic and failure to follow a coherent thought process.

What a piece of work you are....

ruggedwolf said:Look, I'm just asking if you could bring him along, if that’s even possible.

And I should probably mention that his reaction actually caused someone on Reddit to wonder—to put it bluntly—if the guy had finally lost his mind. Seriously, by handling the moderation that way, he’s basically cast doubt on another user's mental stability in the eyes of the rest of us.

Which user are you actually talking about? Since you’ve gone ahead and suggested that someone might be having some mental health struggles—which is a pretty heavy thing to drop into a conversation—it would probably be fair to specify who exactly you mean. I mean, maybe they have no clue anyone even thinks that about them, and then they turn around and start complaining about the very thing being said... wouldn't it be better to just call it out directly? That way, they actually get a chance to respond to the accusation, right?

Defending my position—even though I know I'm wrong—

What kind of wrong attitude is that?

Cardboard post.

Once that post goes up, here’s what happens next.

rowdyhawk10 can't see the connection between the question and the answer. He’s basically calling FMN crazy. I looked up that verse myself, and at first glance, I didn't see the link either—so I get why rowdyhawk10 is skeptical. It actually made me wonder if something happened to FMN, like he was just throwing verses around on Reddit for no reason. But knowing how FMN operates, he's not usually like that. I decided to dig into the verse, and I eventually found the connection. Then, Asad stepped in and confirmed it. Here. If you take the very last sentence of that verse, you could basically craft an entire legal framework out of it that bans marrying a Muslim.

Even though you were looking for an explicit claim from the Quran stating that marrying a non-Muslim results in leaving the faith, FMN offers a slightly milder version of that argument. We could debate that all day—and we have—but the real issue here is how rowdyhawk10 dismissed a perfectly logical post as being off-topic or just trolling.
You also need to consider how you reacted to his response. It was in a deleted post where you just replied, "totally irrelevant." That proves you didn't grasp the verse. If you actually understood it, you would have realized that specific verse is about a prohibition, not about being cast out of the faith. Honestly, your reaction was so irrational that it made Shady doubt the FMN response. You basically led him astray, which is exactly why I had to give you a warning. I really hope you finally get what I'm saying here.

Now that we've found the connection, here's what comes next...

I’m looking for rowdyhawk10 to just own up to his mistake regarding that controversial post. Everyone messes up sometimes—even rowdyhawk10 admits that himself quite often—but he’s refusing to budge, insisting there wasn't an error. Honestly, it makes me question if he’s actually competent enough to handle such a heavy responsibility like moderating. Especially when it comes to the Islam 114 thread, which requires a pretty high level of expertise.

I found another flaw in his logic—that melancholy little comment where he claims to know plenty of happy marriages. It’s just off. Honestly, it led me to demand that he be stripped of his right to reply on the Islam 114 thread, especially since the responses there are being provided by the Hanafi school.

Rowdyhawk10 still refuses to take any responsibility. Instead of owning up to anything, he’s started his own little crusade against the people on the Islam Forum, banning nine users in the process. It’s the same old story. Same mindset, same attitude, just like always.

That’s what pushed me to speak up here. I wanted to complain about his tyranny, using Nicole James's misconduct as the excuse. It turned out almost the entire admin team was siding with both Nicole James and rowdyhawk10, which forced my hand to reach out to the owner. When he didn't respond either, and a bunch of other users backed my decision to stop posting, I felt like I had to grab onto whatever was left—which was just Nicole James's response. Otherwise, the site would have lost a lot of great contributors who actually wanted to stay. I decided to end my boycott. If people want to keep posting, go ahead. I'm done being forced to carry the weight of some self-appointed leader when that's not my job.
Anyway, I'm just wrapping up my boycott. As for whether I'll keep posting or how I'll handle it, I honestly have no clue.

So, this is where we landed. We're basically cleaning up after moderators who can't face their own mistakes or find the guts to admit when they've messed up.

Regarding those anchored topics. That whole concept actually started with the moderators Danaye and Blaise (both Catholics). Then Nicole James stepped in and anchored atheism. (atheist).
Does that mean if a fire enthusiast ever became a moderator, they’d just set the entire Reddit on fire?

I’ll jump in here and back up Scott Nguyen2. Just as a quick reminder, remember when rowdyhawk10 messed up by flagging a perfectly coherent post as off-topic trolling? It was over on the Islam 114 thread. He acts like the ultimate authority on that subject, yet he failed the most basic test right there, and he’s too stubborn to admit it.

(Since we're dealing with highly technical stuff that most people on Reddit wouldn't grasp, I won't bother dropping a link unless someone actually asks for it.)

Not to mention, his reaction basically made people wonder if a certain user had finally lost their mind. To put it bluntly, his moderation style made us all question that person's mental state.
While digging his heels in on a wrong opinion, he ended up banning nine Muslims during that stretch—and he's a Muslim himself. It’s enough to make anyone lose their cool.
Anyway, since we've already started dissecting the moderation here, even though I personally wanted to avoid getting into the weeds and being nitpicky.

On the other hand, you have Nicole James, who uses her moderator status to defend her opinions on threads where she's just a regular participant. She lets inappropriate posts slide, and rowdyhawk10 backs her up by ensuring those slips aren't even reported. Just to be clear, Nicole James was active in those discussions and read every single one of those posts—you can tell by her own comments. That means she let them pass on purpose. There's no way someone with her level of experience and seniority missed them. Which brings us right back to the original point of this thread.

Nicole James said:I honestly regret not just locking this thread the moment it devolved into this endless back-and-forth regarding gay rights versus opposition to them.

Regarding the bans—if I recall correctly—I was actually quite lenient with the more extreme stances taken by the anti-gay side; what I actually stepped in to ban were the threats of violence, the truly horrific insults, and similar behavior. I think the core issue here is that Tyler Scott3 and Lisa Ortiz2 accused me of taking sides, and they both ended up getting flagged for trolling because of it. Both of them have been around this Reddit community for a long time, and frankly, they should have learned by now that if you have an issue with how a moderator handles things, you don't vent about it within the threads—you use the official grievance process.

If anyone thinks the state of this forum is ideal, they couldn't be further from the truth. The Religion sub is massive and incredibly volatile; Danaye and Blaise haven't been active for quite a while, and Scat has so much on his plate that he can't always get to everything. I try to step in whenever my personal life allows, but I simply don't have the bandwidth or the energy to meticulously comb through every single post. Most of the moderation happens reactively as reports come in, which is far from an ideal system. To be honest, I don't know how to fix all of this right now, but I do know that putting this kind of pressure on those of us still trying to keep this place alive isn't helping anyone.

Hey.

I just wanted to have a quick word with the boss.😛

Thanks for reaching out, Nicole James. You could've done it sooner; I've been losing my mind here without the forum...
As for your explanation, you could've brought me a scoop of ice cream and I would've been right back.😍

But if I pointed out serious problems that need addressing over time, then yes, I did. That was the whole point.😉 Since other goals weren't met anyway.

Admins, rowdyhawk10, Nicole James... My apologies to everyone.🙂

Anyway, I'd like to get back into it, if nobody has an objection... or if someone wants to say something now...🙂

I politely asked that the following people stop addressing me. For example, rowdyhawk10, you don't have a clue what I'm actually complaining about here. Honestly, I'm worried you're just talking to hear yourself speak, because your explanations are so transparent and empty they make me feel lightheaded.

The whole point of your response is just to suck up to the admins. You don't give a damn about me or any other user on this site. So, back off.

Dear Anderson, the way you treat us users is a disaster. There’s constant pressure being put on us, and you're constantly trying to guilt-trip us.
I have to ask: what did I ever do wrong by writing posts that reach half a million views? Isn't that enough proof that I'm actually contributing something useful?

And what was my reward for that?

Some lowlife bows before the king, and the king rewards him.
'Our king' rewards us by simply allowing us to exist.😢

You don't owe me an apology; it's your platform. Fine, let me apologize to you instead—I apologize for wasting three years of my life on this site, which has gone from being a promising community to one filled with hypocrisy. I have no desire to write on a place like this. My demand for an apology isn't really about that; it's an appeal for you, as the owner, to take the first step toward fixing the relationship between the users and the administration. The current staff can't do it because they're all too busy chasing their own careers.
Because if you, the owner, don't care about improving these relationships, why should we? We have to be here regardless, and we do it with our heads down because we respect the rules and the authority of this place. But honestly, I just don't have the motivation to contribute anymore. As things stand right now, I feel like a criminal on this site.

That's all from me.

Hey.

The way you guys have been treating me is insulting and honestly pretty degrading.

I’ve brought nearly half a million views to this Reddit community through my threads, yet your staff just labels me a troll or a nutcase while ignoring my complaints or letting moderators sweep them under the rug.

At the very least, I deserved a little recognition—a kind word, a gesture, or even just a simple congrats—instead of this cold, heartless treatment.

Thanks for nothing, Reddit. Find yourselves another user with half a million hits since I’m clearly done responding to you.

Only an apology from Anderson would keep me on this site; I don't want to hear from anyone else on the lower levels. They had plenty of time to make it right.

Peace.

Hey there.

I won't beat around the bush. Nicole James acts as a moderator on the Religion board and on http://this thread, and she's being incredibly biased.

On this link, she shared her opinion just like any other user, but over here, her language as a moderator is pretty questionable.

Here are some posts from people who haven't been banned for staying civil.

In this one, the Catholic priesthood is being insulted.
Right here, a user is being insulted.
Another user gets insulted here.
And another insult here.
This right is the peak of failed moderation due to targeting users with insults.

If you look at the posts that actually got flagged, they're easy to find in the thread, and most of them come from the opposing side.

The topic is sensitive, sure. But moderating this way just forces the discussion into whatever direction the mod wants, which kills the natural flow of the conversation.

Like I said, I don't want to ramble, so I'm just pointing out the key moments that show she isn't being objective. As a regular user, she’s entitled to her opinion—nobody's disputing that.

Later.🙂

what they felt was "stuck" on them

Chocolate.😬

Give me a break with all this nonsense.
Does anyone here actually believe in spirits or souls?
Anyone?
It's just endless arguing over things you can't even grasp.
And if I asked you religious types how much you actually help your neighbors...
Do you really think showing up to church on Sunday is enough to cover all your bases? Pathetic.
Anyway, you should probably check your conscience first.
Because conscience is where the spirit, soul, and body meet.

Come on, it’s not quite that bleak. You help people because God sees it, right? You don't need a pat on the back from everyone else when God knows what you're doing.
Try adding a little positivity to your life. It doesn't cost anything.😁

Second question:
If there’s such a thing as a soul, how does a soul actually know it exists?

The soul knows itself because it's driven by pure desire. It wants everything for its own sake. Price doesn't matter, as long as it shines brighter than the rest.
Reason, though, is pure intelligence. If it existed without a soul, it would be like an angel with wings.
But the soul clipped those wings just to make reason stronger, giving it the power to pierce through certain mysteries.
The angels were put to the test when they first laid eyes on humanity.
They couldn't wrap their heads around it—what could possibly be the point?
As for why this matters, God created man,

I'm pretty bored of talking about the soul. We should hold off on discussing the spirit for a while—at least for me. If anyone else wants to run off and talk about it, go ahead...😁