Posts by cosmicridge5

redheron12 said:I guess I don't see what part of "immediately, once he overtook him" is confusing to you. 😛

This one: at the moment race control instructed us to give the position back to Robert, it was already clear that Robert had lost too much ground. It was obvious there was an issue and he had fallen behind.😛😛😛 😁

redheron12 said:It’s probably no surprise that Lojzek is staying quiet. I guess it makes sense why they took so long to hand down the penalty; they were essentially giving him enough time to wiggle out of the mess. But hey, maybe Lojzek just operates on his own logic. 🤣

Oh, please. 😁
Maybe they would have just told him while Robert Kubica was already miles behind? Like, when he was already way too far back to matter?
🤷

So, according to you guys, should Alonso have just put it in reverse to hand over the position? 🤣

Matthew Kim8 said:A 12-point lead (basically just one fourth-place finish under this new scoring system) is an incredibly thin margin. Using that as the sole justification for such a questionable call is pretty much a slap in the face to any NASCAR fan's logic—at least from what I've seen, I haven't heard anyone significant defend that reasoning.

Both drivers at Red Bull Racing have basically equal shots at the championship, and they had that same math available when the decision was made, so I guess Christian Horner's comments are pure bullshit. They should just pick a side and stop messing with the fans and their own drivers. Bad management is honestly just wasting a phenomenal car.
I’m pretty disappointed by this, and I’m not even a die-hard NASCAR fanatic anymore—I almost don't care who wins at this point. But I can only imagine how livid the guy directly affected must be—Mark Webber, who happens to be in the best form of his life this season.

And here is Jergović's take on the whole mess 😁

http://www.f1-hr.com/clanak/webberov-bumerang

I wouldn't say I'm his biggest fan, but I actually agree with this column.

Nicole Reyes97 said:Look, man, I know what I heard. ☕ I wasn't watching the TV at that exact second, but I highly doubt Blaž is actually stupid enough to mistake Vettel's car. 🤷
And honestly, I'm not going to bother with his lap time math because, frankly, I don't care.

Think whatever you want. I couldn't care less.👍

I guess you both have a point. 😁 Blaž did say that, if I recall correctly, 😁 but then again, Webber didn't end up lapping him—they actually called him into the pits to prevent that from happening. 🤣 😁

stormybadger8 said:if not, people this clueless might actually end up making him the number one driver, and then maybe Mark will snag the title(though that feels like a bit of a stretch to me)

Bit of an understatement 😬

I have to say, given how crazy things are right now, even though I don't particularly care for McLaren—and definitely don't root for Lewis—I find myself pulling for Gumbekić to take the championship 😳 Em, mostly because he's just a likable guy both on and off the track, and he keeps proving he deserves it. Plus, if we're being honest (switching to evil mode here😳), it would be even more devastating for Hemić than if Nando took the title instead 🤣

Go Gumbekić, go 😍

stormybadger8 said:No way. There’s actual proof right there, not just some empty promise. ☕

Nicole Reyes97 said:I just finished reading that myself. 🤣
I couldn't help but laugh at that too, honestly. 😢 I guess it’s still true that their starts were a mess; they really struggled there. If they could've fixed that, maybe they would've actually had a shot at the championship. 🤦 What is he even talking about? 🤣

Exactly! That’s my take on it. 🙏 Nice one, Nando. 🙏 Whatever happens, we’re going to win. 👋 🙂 😁

redheron12 said:It’s easy for them to say that in the media, since they’re basically playing in a different league compared to Fernando Alonso. What actually matters is the performance on track, and in that regard, Vettel always comes out on top.

Mark Webber doesn't really have anything to fear from Vettel; his experience has taught him that being aggressive is enough, and that the kid just doesn't have the guts to push back, no matter how messy things get.

Does he lack guts, or is he just not a psycho? 😁 I guess it depends on how you interpret this "refusal to retaliate."

By that logic, we could also say Jenson Button always backs down and lacks courage... but I suspect it's actually the opposite. It’s probably not about courage at all, but rather about wisdom and having a cool enough head to avoid driving straight into a wall.

Besides, that's exactly what I'm worried about: 😁 the possibility that the kid might "learn" the wrong lesson... that he has to act like a crazy Mark Webber—wasting both his own points and his teammate's—just to stop someone from acting like an idiot.

It’s honestly pretty sad if respect has to be earned that way, 🤷 especially when it's expected from an older, more mature teammate.

And it’s also a bit depressing if people value Webber's style—which is often dirty and aggressive—over someone intelligent and balanced, like Button for example.

It's interesting how Webber has gained so much sympathy for all his whining (😛 😁), when he should really just be thankful he even landed a seat in a car like this. Meanwhile, we don't hear anyone complaining about Jenson Button, like how he supposedly isn't treated as the priority or how Lewis's car was prepped perfectly for qualifying while his barely made it through Qualifying 2. 🙂 He's nothing like Gumbek, whining about unequal treatment, and besides, the guy is a reigning world champion. As for Webber? Aside from being as old as the Bible? 😳

driftingbison4 said:I don't really get Vettel. I’ve spent a long time making excuses for his outbursts by chalking them up to him being young, but he isn't exactly a child who needs his hand held anymore. I still haven't heard his side of the story—the actual, honest version. Every time I watch ABC, they are obsessed with him; they follow him everywhere and interview him constantly, but since the whole broadcast is clearly sponsored by Red Bull, you aren't going to hear anything insightful. It’s funny how right after a race, you can hear from Martin Haug, Christian Horner, Michael Schumacher, Nico Rosberg, Adrian Sutil—basically every German in Formula 1—but it seems Vettel always has to check in with his own opinion at Red Bull Racing before anyone actually hears from him.

Where are you getting that?
That's just not true.😕 🤷

For instance, look at what he said on CBS right after the race...

"Obviously I focus on myself and so does he I guess. Especially after what happened in the past people have different opinions, I have opinion, I have my experiences and sometimes, good and bad, you get to know people a little better and see their true faces. So I think I have learned my lesson and focus on myself."

I’d say the kid is finally waking up
and will likely pull himself together soon enough.😍

Beyond that, I think it’s tough for a guy who’s barely 23 to be in this position—dealing with a much older, relentless Mark Webber and the overall team atmosphere (which, if you ask me, he’s contributed the least to). Honestly, I think plenty of drivers much older and more mature than him would handle this situation significantly worse. He's actually behaving quite well. 🤷 In fact, looking at how Mark and he act, you'd think their ages and experience levels were reversed.

That’s also my biggest gripe with Mark; he’s got way too many years under his belt to be acting this erratic, both on and off the track.

Morgan Murphy7 said:Was there actually a race today? 😲

Yeah, there was, Vespa...

And that old Renault bucket of Robert Kubica's finally gave up the ghost. 👎 😁

stormybadger8 said:Mark Webber is a complete jerk who honestly deserved a kick in the teeth from Red Bull already. A driver pushing his own teammate off into the grass🙄 is an idiot regardless of who it is, but when he does it to a teammate he’s already overtaken—someone he has zero realistic chance of beating anyway—then he’s just a total moron.Vettel is such a pushover; I guess he doesn't realize what a clown Webber is. Instead of letting him go or just crashing into him, he yields to the idiot at his own expense. It's just ridiculous how that team operates.

If you push your teammate, you're not sane, let alone if you shove them off the track like Webber did. As things stand, McLaren still has both drivers in P1 and P2 and they've actually extended their lead in the constructors' championship, all thanks to the absolute madness from Webber.,Vettel is stuck fighting a fool while dealing with a completely incompetent crew. They really should have had at least a 50-point cushion over MCM in both drivers' and constructors' standings by now, especially given Red Bull's potential.

👍

I second everything said here, word for word.

If I were his boss, I probably would have lost it and hit him over the head with a trophy today just to make sure everyone saw what a disaster he was...

And the idiots on the team who just let it happen...

Jesus, my nerves are absolutely shot after watching this today.😬 It was definitely one of those races where I needed a heavy dose of tranquilizers; I'm still trying to recover from the sheer amount of stupidity and chaos.😁

Douglas Parker61 said:Honestly, who wouldn't be livid after two races like those?
I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up to the next race carrying a handgun just so he can take everyone out when they pull another stunt like that.🙂

Yeah, instead of just waving his hands around like a maniac, he might as well just start shooting. 🙏 🤣🤣🤣

Nicole Reyes97 said:If you look back at his prime—especially 2005 and 2006—Fernando Alonso wouldn't have had such a mediocre start. I guess maybe he's just lost a bit of that edge? 🤣 And he definitely wouldn't have been taking those reckless risks just to overtake; he was basically driving on pure adrenaline and failing. Honestly, I don't really get why they penalized him either, since they were both clearly fighting for the spot, and besides, Robert Kubica ended up dropping out anyway🤷. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing after the start today—I can't remember the last time Alonso actually had a decent launch.😁

It feels like he’s just completely burnt out or something.😳

But this penalty? It's honestly a joke.🙄

Ready for this race 🙏

Mark Webber really showed his true colors today 🙏 Pushing his own teammate like that just to sabotage the team's results... bravo 🙏 🤮

After that whole scandal, he goes and crowds him out again today. Honestly, what a psycho 🙏 🤮

From here on out, I’d rather see that menace Lewis Hamilton take the title than watch Webber win 🙄

As for Zalons and Robert Kubica, Alonso had absolutely nowhere to go. Where were the stewards looking?! This penalty and the way it played out is easily the biggest joke of the season 🤮 If he ends up taking out half the officials and half the pit crews, I probably wouldn't even blame him ☕

Did I mention how nauseating this entire race has been?

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Michael Lee4 said:I might just end it all with a butter knife... seriously, a 7, a Delarosa 8, and Button at 14... 🤦unbelievable...

Even damn Alonso is faster than Hamilton...... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 😠

I need to go break something 🙂

Watching how Alonso dissects Red Bull... I guess people are just looking for new reasons to whine. 🤦

🤣

Come on, come on, Volkswagen Golf 🎉 Come on, Alonso 🎉

😁

I suggest we move this legendary thread over to the Paddock 😬

Christian Williams61 said:Look, it’s not like that—it's just my take on things, you know? Like, I already laid out my opinion to you... now it's totally on you to decide if I actually hit the mark or if I'm way off. That's how this works, right? I mean, you aren't exactly going to just take my word for it blindly—though hey, if you really wanted to, I guess you could. 🤣I mean, who knows? Maybe you'll actually have a blast with it—honestly, I can't really say. But hey, if that's how it goes, then good for you. 🤣
Look, I'm just saying—I don't need to sit down and have a meeting with him, thanks though. 😳

Well... look... this intense antagonism toward him that seems to be going on here is almost intriguing 😁 What can I say, I'm just a little bit twisted 🤣

Otherwise, it would probably be fair for you to warn me, as a friend, 😲 about what the actual issue is with him... so I don't have to learn things the hard way... you know? 😁

redheron12 said:Well, now you finally see where I'm coming from. 😍

🙂 😁😁😁

stormybadger8 said:It’s got nothing to do with ratings, at least not for me. But screw it, I have zero intention of walking in on anyone unless they actually deserve it. I'm a loyal loser. 😉

Besides, two guys naked isn't exactly a sight I'm looking for—let alone being stuck in the middle of it. 🙄

Even Pato wouldn't be on your radar in that scenario. 😉

He was just asking for topless😬 🤣

Christian Williams61 said:Man, I think you already asked this once... 🙏 the answer's still the same: go out there and see for yourself 😉

Seriously, what is actually going on with you? 🤣

I don't really get it. 😬 It’s a bit of a contradiction, really. On one hand, it’s like he’s practically invisible, but then on the other, I'm being told to go out and track him down myself. 😁 And that’s only if things go exactly as planned. 😲

I don't get it. 😁

Christian Williams61 said:I literally just pictured them with boobs 😂 😂 😂 hilarious 🤣
imagine TBF showing up to the brewery without a bra and then suddenly 🙂 🤣

Maybe he'll grow some beer belly ones instead🙂 😬 🤣