Posts by Robert Rodriguez2

Robin Brooks2 said:I honestly think it’s best to just save myself the headache right from the jump and go with this MSI R9 280, because if I don't, I’ll probably just spend the entire night overthinking it and driving myself crazy.

that would put you at about ~ $1833

Robin Brooks2 said:@Robert Rodriguez2
1. So, just to clarify, the LGA 775 socket won't support DDR3 memory at all, right? It’s strictly limited to DDR2?
2. Could you give me a breakdown of what each of these individual components is worth on the used market? Thanks!

Regarding these two builds, I'm looking for some advice on which direction to take. Is it a better move to go with the stronger graphics card now—even if it means eventually swapping out the CPU and trekking down to a repair shop to pay for the service $67 though I have my doubts about anyone doing that for free—or should I stick with the i5 and just handle the GPU upgrade myself later on when I feel like it?

Some boards support DDR3, but you don't even know which board you've got. Assuming your RAM is DDR2, it's not going anywhere on a new platform.

As for starting out, the i5 build is the better move. You get a stronger processor, and upgrading a GPU later is a much less painful headache.

And that FX isn't a bad chip either... whatever you pick, you should be fine for a while, depending on how much of a graphics freak you are.

Rachel Jones8 said:I already tried this and that... nothing worked.
If getting a new USB device actually fixed things, I'd be down, but if anyone has thoughts... my current one is like 10 years old anyway, so I'm not exactly itching to drop cash $33 on a new one.

Look, I can't help you with the silent sleep mode or those specific glitches you're seeing in Windows 8 since I don't run that OS. My BIOS is set to S3 or whatever—point is, when I hit sleep, any key or mouse movement wakes it right up.

A newer adapter should work fine on Windows 8 because it's modern enough; there's a good chance Windows just handles the driver itself. Most of these are plug and play, so you just plug it in, the OS does its thing, and you're good to go.

As for how it handles waking from sleep? No clue. Couldn't find anything online and I don't use it that way, so I have zero experience there.

Maybe someone else here can weigh in on that part.

Robin Brooks2 said:Good evening, everyone. I’m looking to put together a new PC capable of handling all the upcoming big releases, with a budget of about $1667 in cash. Since I’m not exactly an expert in this field, I figured I’d borrow a moment of your time to pick the brains of the enthusiasts here; I’m hoping to build something that stays relevant for at least the next three or four years.
I also have an old machine gathering dust, so I was wondering what its current resale value might be and whether it's possible to swap in some DDR3 memory.

ASUS Nvidia 9800gt ddr5
Intel e4300 soc 775
4gb ram
500w power supply
motherboard unknown
case is just some junk
LG optical drive
HDD 360 GB

Nah, maybe the hard drive if you need a secondary one, since it's ancient,
for $1667 you could put together a decent rig, and keep the drive

like this:
1 x Intel Core i5-4460 Processor (3.20GHz,1MB,6MB,84 W,1150) Box
1 x Sapphire R9 270 2GB, OC Boost, 2GB GDDR5 256bit
1 x Fortron 500W Power Supply, Hyper, PPA5005003, 12cm fan
1 x Zalman Z1 mid tower case. 199(W)x432(H)x457(D)mm. Standard MB
1 x TOSHIBA 500GB, 7200rpm, SATA 6 Gb/s, 32MB, DT01ACA050
1 x DDR3 8GB (1x8GB) Kingston, HyperX Fury, 1866MHz, CL10
1 x ASUS B85M-K, 1150, Intel ® B85 express chipset

$1678

or AMD

you'd get a way better GPU here🙂
1 x Fortron 500W Power Supply, Hyper, PPA5005003, 12cm fan
1 x Zalman Z1 mid tower case. 199(W)x432(H)x457(D)mm. Standard MB
1 x TOSHIBA 500GB, 7200rpm, SATA 6 Gb/s, 32MB, DT01ACA050
1 x DDR3 8GB (1x8GB) Kingston, HyperX Fury, 1866MHz, CL10
1 x Gigabyte Z97X, AM3+, AMD 970 SB950, 4x DDR3 2000(O.C.)/1866
1 x AMD FX-Series X6 6300 3.5GHz,14MB,95W,AM3+, FD6300WMHK
1 x Spire Kepler Rev.2 cooler, 1156/775/FM1, 96.5×51×125 mm, 92mm
1 x MSI R9 280 3GB GAMING 3GB GDDR5 384bit, R9 280 GAMING, TF4

$1666

AOC 21.5" Wide LCD, 6ms, 16:9, IPS
$344
Genius KM-110X Keyboard + Mouse Combo, USB Black
$37
GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P, AM3+
$195
AMD FX-Series X6 6100 Desktop CPU
(3.3/3.9GHz, 14MB, 95W, AM3+) Box
$250
Crucial 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz
$93
AMD Radeon R7 250,
$268
Seagate BarraCuda HDD (3.5", 500GB, 32MB, SATA III-600)
$130
MSI Phoenix Case (No PSU included)
$54
Fortron Hexa+ 400W, 80+, Active, 12cm
$106
LC POWER LC-CC-95, Socket 775/1155/1156/AMD
$33
Taxable Base: $1208
Sales Tax (25%): $302
Total: $1510

Future IT

Comparing this build to the one from Micro Center... you get a slightly better cooler, but the processor is weaker—down 200MHz, though it's still a 6-core setup.

It's a bit cheaper than Micro Center.
Everything else is basically identical.

Man, you guys are just starting to learn CATIA in college... I was running it back in high school around 2003 or 2004 on a Pentium 4 with 512MB of RAM and integrated graphics... took a full 10 minutes just to boot up... and trying to pull up an assembly drawing of a gearbox? Forget it. Took 25 minutes from the time I hit the clock xD

Here’s the full build including a dedicated GPU that can actually handle decent medium settings. CATIA will run just fine. The only "weakness" is the 4GB of RAM, but I cut corners there to stay within the budget. If you find it's lagging, that's the easiest part to upgrade later.

And yeah... all peripherals are included, plus you can use your existing speakers.

1 x Gigabyte 970A-DS3P, AM3+, AMD 970 SB950, 4x DDR3 2000(O.C.)/1866
1 x AMD FX-Series X6 6300 Processor 3.5GHz, 14MB, 95W, AM3+, FD6300WMHK
1 x DDR3 4GB (1x4GB) Kingston, 1600MHz,
CL11, Value
1 x Seagate BarraCuda 500GB, 7200rpm, SATA 6 Gb/s, 32MB
1 x Fortron Power Supply
400W, HEXA Plus 400, 12cm fan
1 x Spire Kepler Rev.2 Cooler, 1156/775/FM1, 96.5×51×125 mm, 92mm
1 x AMD Radeon R7 250 1G GDDR5 PCI-E HDMI / DVI-I / DP, 950MHz / 1125
1 x MSI Phoenix Midi tower case, ATX, mATX
1 x Acer V236HLBd 23" IPS
panel, Resolution: 1920x1080, Diagonal
1 x Genius Keyboard + Mouse KM200 PS2/USB, Number
of "hotkeys": 8
$1530

www.newegg.com
Free shipping and assembly on orders over $2$0.00

Daniel Kern2 said:What are you even talking about? I need the NH D 14 to arrive by Monday, and since I ordered the Corsair 450 D from Uzia the other day, I had enough left over for what I just mentioned.
I haven't bothered visiting any other forums to ask or say anything because I was already getting advice right here while planning this whole purchase.

Here's a photo, so keep acting smart if you want, genius:

http://postimg.org/image/hdh8teu21/

And what did that prove? That you have a case? Wow.😁

👍

Adam Diaz67 said:SolidWorks is a 3D CAD program, and much like its sibling SolidWorks, it really craves a decent graphics card. I guess it would be pretty useful to throw some solid graphics in there just for rendering 3D models—especially when you're dealing with complex assemblies. Once you start adding lighting and different materials, it tends to push both the CPU and the GPU pretty hard. I'm assuming you're using the student version of V5R19. It really depends on what you're actually doing in the software, though; if you're just making simple models, you probably don't need anything too powerful.

If they're just working from home for school projects or some hobby, an integrated chip will get the job done. No need for anything overkill.

But if this is their actual job—if it's how they put food on the table—then yeah, absolutely. A good card will jump their productivity to a whole different level.🙂

Linda Sanders18 said:Alright, I hear you on that "eye" thing. I'll definitely give your suggestion some thought. My main question, though, is whether SolidWorks runs any better on Windows 8 or Windows 7?

SolidWorks will run on 7 and 8, even on Windows XP (though nobody supports that OS anymore)

like graniteharbor85 said, Windows 7 64-bit is the way to go

graniteharbor85 said:Yeah, I probably just misread things—I thought I saw those three items bundled together at a Best Buy for $4k, so I was wondering why the price jumped for those two guys. But hey, I totally agree with Robert Rodriguez2 on this one—don't even think about an All-in-One PC. A separate tower and monitor setup is way better.

If you want to go with an i5 build just to have some peace of mind for a while, here’s a solid option:

i5 4440
MSI H81M P33
Kingston HyperX 8GB 1600 MHz
Seagate 1TB SATA 3 HDD
LG DVD-RW SATA
Fortron Hexa 400W 80+ Active
Naviatec NVT 603 MATX

AOC 22" IPS 1080p
Genius USB Keyboard/Mouse Set

= $1500This includes shipping and assembly.

- You can always toss in a dedicated graphics card later (like an Nvidia GT 740 or GTX 750) and a 120GB+ SSD (maybe a Patrio Blaze, Kingston HyperX, Intel 520/530, or Samsung EVO 840/850).
- Just hang onto your other peripherals—upgrading them later is usually pretty easy.
- If you don't really need a disc drive, skip it and grab a better case, like a Zalman T1 +, T2+, or T5... though honestly, this Naviatec case is a decent enough box for builds that aren't running super hot (I can post a few pics of the 601 & 603 models if you want, because they actually surprised me for the price). If you want lower temps and better airflow down the road, you can always add extra 90mm fans (back) or 120mm fans (side).
- You could also save a bit more money by going with an Acer VA model.

I realized from the last post that I shouldn't go over $1333 😳

graniteharbor85 said:Wait, so would you actually grab a monitor bundled with a setup like that or not? I’m a little confused since you mentioned you don't have one, but then you didn't include it in the list with the rest of the build and peripherals.

I'd just pick up an All-in-One PC, from what I can tell.

Linda Sanders18 said:@McLovin - I spend way more time messing with my cat than I do with AutoCAD. When I am actually using CAD, I usually just draft objects to fit a specific sheet size, then print them out later. My printer isn't even connected to this setup; it’s hooked up to a different computer somewhere else in the house. Last time, I just lugged my laptop over to make things easier.

@Robert Rodriguez2 - I've got a mouse since it's attached to my laptop right now, but I'm missing a keyboard. As for audio, I've just got some tiny Microsoft speakers, and I don't have a monitor either.

I went with an all-in-one bundle—basically the tower, keyboard, and speakers all together. Looking back, I think the whole thing cost me somewhere around $4,000.

Don't bother with an All-in-One PC. They aren't actually cheaper, usually. It's mostly just laptop parts shoved inside, so upgrading is a pain and repairs cost a fortune. Just grab a standard desktop and call it a day. 🙂

You can easily order a pre-built from a web shop. Everything comes assembled; you just plug in the monitor, keyboard, and mouse, and you're good to go. 😁

Newegg is where my brother has ordered from dozens of times this past year. Always five stars. 🙂

Here's an example of what $400 gets you there:
1 x AOC I2269VWM, IPS monitor 21.5" Wide, WLED, 1920x1080@60 Hz
1 x Asrock FM2A78M-DG3+, AMD FM2+ Socket A78 Chipset MB
2 x DDR3 4GB (1x4GB) Kingston, 1600MHz, CL11, Value
1 x Power Supply FORTRON 400W, HEXA Plus 400, 12cm fan
1 x LG GH24NS DVD burner, DVD±RW, 24x DVD±R ,8x DL , 40x CD-R
1 x Microsoft Phoenix case, Midi tower MBO: ATX, mATX
1 x TOSHIBA 500GB, 7200rpm, SATA 6 Gb/s, 32MB, DT01ACA050
1 x AMD Kaveri A8-Series X4 7600 (3.8GHz,4MB,65W,FM2+) box processor
1 x Logitech Z-120 speakers, 2.0, 1.2 W (RMS), USB
1 x Genius keyboard + mouse KM200 PS2/USB, 8 hotkeys

$1352

SolidWorks eats RAM for breakfast. 😁
With this build, you could even play some mid-tier games if that's your thing. 🙂

Timothy Kim60 said:Because he won't stop. This guy has cloned himself at least ten times already if you count all the profiles he used to push those fake builds.

Opening a thread isn't going to stop them. They'll just keep multiplying like idiots.

Linda Sanders18 said:That’s exactly where my head was at. I’m running SolidWorks and AutoCAD for school right now, so having a bit more muscle under the hood wouldn't hurt—even if it's just for messing around when I'm bored. And regarding what you asked earlier, it doesn't strictly need to be a laptop. I’m not planning on lugging this thing around anywhere; I barely move my current setup from my desk, so portability isn't really a factor here.

Like graniteharbor85 said, a desktop is the way to go. Now, what kind of gear are we talking about here? Mouse, keyboard, speakers, monitor... and are you hardwired into a router or just stuck on Wi-Fi?

Timothy Kim60 said:it’s getting boring here. Honestly, with clones like etheralknight/geforceGTX and frozenbadger76 just flooding the place with five or six threads at a time, we should just start a sandbox thread. Let them spout whatever nonsense they want there so they don't have to cook up fake "scenarios" just to post. This whole subforum has gone downhill over the last two years because of people like that.

Not worth it. They can take their nonsense to DMs instead of spamming the board with it.

mellowskipper91 said:Two easy reasons and one slightly annoying one 😁
1. I paid good money for my board $350 (EVGA-$267, ASUS-$366)
2. I need the PCI slots
3. It's for an OSX build and the EVGA stuff won't cut it

Just waiting on the board to arrive so I can see if my CPU is actually alive (i7 4770). If not, it's heading to a repair shop to try and swap it for at least a K version😬

Low odds the CPU is dead.
It's the toughest part in the rig. Honestly, everything else will probably die before that thing gives up the ghost.

graniteharbor85 said:Here you go:

G1840
MSI H81M P33
CRUCIAL 4GB 1600 MHZ
SEAGATE Hybrid Drive 500GB SATA 3
NAVIATEC NVT 603 + 500W

= $677 for the cards.

He’s probably just doing 2D stuff in CAD, so he doesn't even need a dedicated GPU.

Nice setup,
not sure how much CAD work any of you actually do—2D or 3D—but this thing can handle 3D easily. It won't render 70 machine parts at once, obviously, but it'll get the job done fine.
I used to run CAD on a Pentium 4 with 2 gigs of RAM without lag, so this will fly.😒

tiki66 said:

🤣🤣

this is getting ridiculous 😳
nothing but trolls as far as the eye can see 🍿

copperwolf89 said:In that case, mine is an IPS :P

This is the one I’m using: LG Flatron

isn't TN, it's 😁

Brian Campbell36 said:Will this GPU actually fit in my rig? 🤔

http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid-tower/haf-xm/

Lengthwise, it looks like plenty of room. Besides, I can't find a single soul willing to buy my two Sapphire 7770 OC Editions with Vapor-X dual fans ($150 units) 🤔

It fits. The card is 304mm. Your case handles up to 354mm if the drive cage is in, or 463mm without it.