Posts by mellowtiger83

Dammit, that blind Ayrton Senna was right on the inside line at the moment of impact! He should have veered off into the grass to avoid Alain Prost, or just braked hard and surrendered the position, but apparently, that didn't cross his mind.

On another note, tell me, did Alain Prost even know where Ayrton Senna was on the track? (He had plenty of room to the left).



Where exactly was Weber supposed to go here? He was simply holding his line.
I'll tell you what happened. Sebastian Vettel thought he could pass Weber just like Alain Prost thought he could pass Ayrton Senna.

Look, however you slice it.

Good grief. Based on this footage, you could probably label about 20 different F1 collisions as premeditated attempted murder.

The driver was blind. At the very entry of the turn, half the car was already on the inside line. Where else did you think Alain Prost was turning if not right into the corner?

And where exactly was Ayrton Senna at that moment? He was pinned to his far right, practically touching the guardrails.

Look, however you slice it.

Good grief. Based on this footage alone, you could probably categorize at least 20 different F1 collisions as premeditated attempted murder.

cosmiccyclist8 said:Where exactly is this river you're talking about? Here is the statement made after Suzuka, once I've personally reviewed the footage several times.

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He mentions that Ayrton Senna didn't have even a 1% chance of making it through and that a column was essentially slammed into his rear wing. mellowtiger83, is that enough detail for you?

What are you even talking about? If you watch the video from the 13 to 15-second mark, you can see that Ayrton Senna is halfway inside a Prost-like car. He is at most hugging the inside line, while Prost comes from the outside and cuts inward toward where Ayrton Senna is positioned. He really had two choices: slam on the brakes completely to let Prost pass, or hold his ground and stay on his line. Judging by the statements made after qualifying, the first option clearly didn't cross his mind.

It is a textbook racing incident, heavily clouded by historical bias, which people blindly follow because someone shoved that narrative down their throats.

Well, perhaps because some people actually use their eyes?

I see Ayrton Senna occupying half of a Ferrari-like car, leaving absolutely no room to move further inside. I also see Prost moving inward—likely failing to perceive the McLaren's position on the track—resulting in contact.
Furthermore, I see that Prost has space on his left side. Entering that corner at that specific point allows for two cars before the turn tightens up toward the right-to-left section.

cosmiccyclist8 said:One stolen? Even he admits there's an empty spot in his trophy case. In his head, every conspiracy theory is totally plausible 😁

If you ask me, my math shows he actually has one extra rather than one missing—honestly, who knows what kind of substances Jean-Marie Balestre was on back in '90 when he didn't disqualify him at Suzuka? It’s a complete joke...

And please, for the love of God, don't go calling him the "greatest," because then you're just insulting all the other drivers who were right there in the mix—especially the ones who were actually better than him. 👍

What kind of drugs was Balestre on in 1989 when Alain Prost's intentions were clearly visible on the onboard camera, when he even checked his rearview mirror before veering toward Ayrton Senna?

People this reckless still exist today.



Dancing right on the edge of death.

cosmiccyclist8 said:Ayrton Senna announced prior to the race that he intended to make his move specifically if Alain Prost took the corner in the lead. 🤮

That’s exactly what he did. Not even a racing incident. 🤮

What does it matter what Ayrton Senna said about it? Honestly, nothing. Senna attempted to squeeze through on the inside, and it never even crossed his mind to back off. He had already committed more than half the car into that space. As for Alain Prost, either he had no clue where Senna actually was on the track, or he simply couldn't have cared less about him. He turned into that corner as if Senna wasn't even there. Given the lines both drivers had mapped out in their heads, there was just no way for them both to make it. At the exact moment Prost closed off the inside line, Senna was faced with a choice: slam on the brakes or hold his ground. Naturally, he held his ground.

I find it utterly baffling that Prost, being on the outside looking in, didn't simply concede. He was arguably the one with the most to lose in that situation—though, frankly, he likely had no grasp of where Senna actually stood.

You all keep rambling on about "intentions." As if it matters. You argue that Ayrton Senna didn't yield on purpose—which he had every right to do—and then you claim Alain Prost wouldn't have yielded either. That’s really all there is to it. Case closed.

Even Alain Prost himself referred to it as nothing more than an incident.

Imagine a scenario where the protagonists are, say, Jarno Trulli and Heinz Harald Frentzen, navigating what would be considered a perfectly standard racing weekend.

The officials wouldn't even classify that incident as a penalty. It would be viewed strictly as an incident.
Collisions like that have happened plenty of times before and since in Formula 1 history. In those instances, nobody ever faced a penalty, let alone accusations of attempted murder.

The media really blew this whole thing out of proportion. They manufactured this massive frenzy just because of some mindless rambling from Ayrton Senna.

Senna was diving into that corner, and Prost was heading right into the same turn at the exact same moment. It resulted in contact while they were still carrying massive speed.

It’s over. Game Over.

Juan Manuel Fangio was the greatest driver of all time, period. Perhaps I could consider Jim Clark, but no one else. Fangio stands above because he won in a wide variety of machines.

Ayrton Senna was the greatest pilot in history!

There is driving a car, and then there is piloting an automobile. They are not the same thing.

The only historical instances where Senna can even be mentioned in the same breath as a true driver are that wild stint in the NSX with Suzuki and that magnificent victory at the Nürburgring in the Mercedes-Benz 190.

People need to learn how to distinguish drivers from pilots. Those guys racing NASCAR today are drivers; those people behind V8 supercars are drivers. The principle is similar, but it is nowhere near the same.

Pilots react on the edge of instinct—they react digitally. Drivers operate analogously, and you simply cannot grasp the difference.

Just because someone is a Formula 1 champion does not mean they will be the best driver; history has shown us that many times over.

Senna proved he was the superior driver among the Formula 1 pilots of his era.

The only time pilots can truly showcase their driving skill—the only time they are forced to react analogically—is when it rains. A downpour, wet tracks, that sort of thing.
That is when true driving ability surfaces, and lo and behold, Senna was actually a driver. Only then can we draw some loose parallels with Fangio and Jim Clark.

I am not sure if your limited minds can even process this.

To understand this, you would have to be born a natural leftist. Right-handers, for some reason, are less capable of abstract thought. Everything for them boils down to numbers and math; they rank everything by points and reduce everything to a mathematical level.
Their entire existence revolves around material wealth, believing that being rich is the ultimate goal, failing to grasp the actual depth of life.

That is why specific forums exist, where you can ask someone who thinks differently than the masses.

Any decent leftist could prove to you that 1>5.

For instance, Tbf and crimsonhawk23 likely need a mountain of aids during a race just to figure out what is happening around them: PC, Tablet, mobile phone, a hundred different types of live timing, and so on.
Right-handers can track massive amounts of information. We leftists cannot. We just watch, tune everything out, and see only the racing and the braking zones. We know everything without any assistance.

No penalty was issued because it was strictly a racing incident. Senna simply maintained that braking wasn't even an option in that moment.

This is Jason Campbell70's photo corner, yet I don't see a single one of his torsos! It’s simply unacceptable.

We demand a ridiculous torso!

Timothy Castillo6 said:Time moves on, but memories don't just evaporate into thin air.
What's up, big man!

Time passes, memories don't fade, all that remains are the hectares left behind!

Hey Jason Campbell70, sleeping soundly?

@ Dana Perez6

Who was this guy actually?

Was he even a legend?

Who was he?

Why is there such an endless amount of threads and posts about this guy if he was actually a legend?

Jason Campbell70 said:What's going on? Is anyone even here?

His fanbase has completely evaporated. Who was even Ayrton Senna, really?

Dana Perez6 said:Here’s a lineup of the absolute weirdest cars ever built...
1-LIGIER J55 1976.- Jacques Laffitte

2. BRABHAM BT 26 - 1968. Jochen Rindt..- just look at that spoiler, man...

3. MARCH 711 1971. Ronnie Peterson..

4. EIFELAND 21 1972 Rolf Stommelen---

5. BRABHAM BT46B---NIKI LAUDA
6.-Tyrrell P34-----

It is the Ligier JS5, not the J55. Truly one of the ugliest machines ever built.

Hey man, why does the guy in car number 26 have that low-drag front wing? Why didn't it just snap off like it did for Villeneuve?

And you actually decided to pick a fight about Ayrton Senna with me,
as if I hadn't already found another Jason Campbell70, a self-proclaimed Senna devotee, to argue with.

crimsonstag84 said:The R9 270X is pretty much hitting the ceiling with that CPU. You'll get decent performance in Fortnite, but PUBG is going to be a struggle. To avoid those annoying frame drops and input lag in PUBG, you really need 8 threads. One way to compensate is to crank up some settings so the GPU stays pegged at 99% utilization most of the time. My advice? Stick to 1080p with very low settings, maybe bump textures to High, and keep AA on low as your only adjustment.

It won't be 1080p because it’s being hooked up to a 32-inch TV with a 720p resolution.

I've got an opportunity to pick up a used rig featuring an AMD FX-4300 and 8GB of RAM. I'm wondering how much life is actually left in that processor if I pair it with something like an R9 270 x, or perhaps even a more powerful card. What kind of performance can I realistically expect when it comes to gaming?

PUBG, Fortnite, and things along those lines.

coastalwolf6 said:I suspect he was an extraterrestrial too. 😁

Hardly. He was a mutant!

gentlemoose57 said:A year or two before Rosberg beat Hamilton, it wasn't even close; he didn't lose by a hair, but by more than two races—about 60 to 70 points.

Rosberg won because he benefited from a fresh engine after Hamilton took penalties at Spa-Francorchamps. Again, it comes down to rushing things early in the season. Add in one more Hamilton DNF, and that's really the extent of it.

The entire TBFa body of work essentially boils down to strategically disparaging one side while elevating the other just to make Vettel look superior and his rivals look inferior. It’s a pattern: they constantly criticize the management and strategy at Vettel's team, yet praise the teams where his rivals drive. Occasionally, they smear his rivals' teams, or sometimes lift them up just enough so those drivers seem somewhat comparable to drivers who are clearly a tier below.

Naturally, it never occurs to him that Vettel's own temperament and nervousness are what actually rattle the teams. And these are teams that, over the last two seasons, delivered cars capable of winning a title with any top-tier driver behind the wheel.

Classic TBF modus operandi. We've seen this before and we'll see it plenty more; everything is done solely to glorify Vettel. It's quite obvious and lacks any semblance of objectivity.

They conveniently ignore the fact that Hamilton was competing against elite teammates, and everyone except Valtteri Bottas is a world champion.

And they purposefully omit the fact that two years ago, Vettel effectively knocked himself out of the title race through his own bizarre mistakes, despite driving a car that was absolutely championship-worthy.

To justify this, they concoct strange excuses and conspiracy theories, claiming Mercedes-AMG intentionally slowed down to create the illusion of a fight or suggesting favoritism.
If you play the tape backward, it becomes clear that Vettel is the one who squandered his own opportunities.
Furthermore, there's the constant claim that the people at Ferrari are idiots with idiotic tactics, asserting that Ferrari messed up a victory for Vettel every single time.
The latest argument is about tire performance being subpar, when in reality, everyone has the same rubber. Wouldn't it be simpler to just admit an obvious driving error?

It's the standard operating procedure that will likely continue, with claims that Ferrari favors Charles Leclerc, much like how the loss to Daniel Ricciardo was described in a similar fashion.

Typical stuff from my friend Tbf.

But hey, let him rock!