I honestly don't get why people can't just speak their minds. Compared to last year's lineup, this is actually pretty mediocre; most of these bands were just playing everywhere recently, while others struggle to fill even a small club in Chicago. Say whatever you want, but when you factor in the ticket price, plus the cost of drinks and food, let alone travel and hotels if you aren't living right here in Washington, D.C., it adds up to a massive amount of money. People want at least two or three headliners that actually carry some weight and mean something. So, the criticism stands. At this rate, I doubt they'll pull in more than 4,000 or 5,000 people. Though, if I'm being honest, those attendance numbers from last year—those 15,000 to 20,000 figures—felt incredibly inflated to begin with.
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Any more news on the horizon?🤷
March 17th is creeping up on us. I’m expecting at least two or three heavy hitters to be announced by then; otherwise, this whole festival is just going to be a total letdown.👎
Hey >, who from that list actually stands a chance? Give us a hint before people end up regretting those tickets they already grabbed.
March 17th is creeping up on us. I’m expecting at least two or three heavy hitters to be announced by then; otherwise, this whole festival is just going to be a total letdown.👎
Hey >, who from that list actually stands a chance? Give us a hint before people end up regretting those tickets they already grabbed.
So, looking at who might be available during the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival timeframe, or perhaps even on tour:
Fatboy Slim
Chemical Brothers
Faithless
Orbital
Motörhead
Dropkick Murphys
Slayer
Green Day
Skunk Anansie
Muse
Kasabian
The Strokes
One can only hope we actually see something worthwhile from this lot, I suppose.🤷
Fatboy Slim
Chemical Brothers
Faithless
Orbital
Motörhead
Dropkick Murphys
Slayer
Green Day
Skunk Anansie
Muse
Kasabian
The Strokes
One can only hope we actually see something worthwhile from this lot, I suppose.🤷
Can someone please explain to me why Hurricane has already listed 33 performers, yet Coachella has only put out one single name, especially when they're both happening just a few days apart?🙄
I’d probably go for Foo Fighters myself.
The Armada
in Fans ·
Can I ask something? This isn't just aimed at the Armada crowd—I see others have brought up similar points lately. What’s with the obsession with old-school script in the fan scene? Sure, it’s part of our American heritage, but people don't go around wearing traditional folk costumes every weekend either...
I mean, almost nobody can actually read it, right? You basically need Google just to decipher what some transparent banner says.🤷
Feel free to tear me apart if you think I'm not being patriotic enough, but honestly, without getting past the insults, I don't see much point to it all.🤷
I mean, almost nobody can actually read it, right? You basically need Google just to decipher what some transparent banner says.🤷
Feel free to tear me apart if you think I'm not being patriotic enough, but honestly, without getting past the insults, I don't see much point to it all.🤷
Fan-led charity drives
in Fans ·
Hopping freight trains, crashing on benches, dodging security, wandering through Europe with zero dollars in your pocket... just pure chaos, madness, and the high of a win. That’s the whole fan experience, distilled into a single book. Only then would people actually grasp what it means to be part of a fanbase. It wouldn't be some polished memoir; it would be raw, unfiltered, and brutally honest, yet somehow still darkly hilarious to read. And on the back cover? It would simply say: BEING A FAN ISN'T THE CRIME; THE CRIME ISN'T BEING A FAN enough.
Fan-led charity drives
in Fans ·
I can't even sleep right now... this idea keeps circling my brain...
How to raise funds for St. Louis...
What’s the most entertaining thing you’ve ever read regarding sports fanbases? For me, it’s always those fan stories... the away trips, the chaos, the travels, the little anecdotes. ..
Just imagine this—a book written as a collection of the wildest stories from away games and adventures within the fan subculture... and in it, every major American fanbase participates... I mean authentic, true short stories describing the life of a fan... for instance, an email address opens up where fans from all clubs send their stories (written in the first person) about things they experienced while following their team... authors can stay anonymous if they're embarrassed (if, say, drugs or hookers are mentioned😁) or they can sign with a nickname, like "the guys from the neighborhood" and so on... plus, maybe include some photos taken during travel or scanned tickets (just to prove the story is legit)...
Basically, everything related to the fan life—the losses, the wins, getting relegated to the minor leagues, the euphoria, the sadness, the fights, the jokes, the madness... all the emotions that come with it... a book written WITHOUT CENSORSHIP, 100% AUTHENTIC... the 80s, the collapse of the old era, the wars, the fight for Real Madrid's name, Liverpool playing in the Champions League, the protest against Bank of America over radio stations, England in '96, France in '98, when the title was stolen from San Francisco, Portugal in '04... all the major (and obviously insignificant😁) events in American soccer, the fan scene, and society in general, but written from a fan's perspective!!... naturally, all written with a heavy dose of humor and fun... for example, every group in America has a limit of 10 stories... these fans write them and send them to a central fan association via email, which picks the 10 best (the funniest, most entertaining, craziest...) to be included in the book, and to motivate the authors, a symbolic reward is offered (a case of beer, scarves, t-shirts...)... then all these stories are gathered into a book and sold, say, at newsstands... let's assume the book costs, I'm just talking here, $17 and let's say $10 goes to the publisher and the profit is $6.75 per book... if 50,000 copies sell, that's 50,000 * 20 = 1,000 $0.00!... of course, considering what kind of garbage is being sold nowadays (Lady Gaga), this book would be a hit and perfect summer reading... and nobody profits from it; all the money goes toward St. Louis!!... with a little better advertising, media promotion, and a highlighted humanitarian goal, this would be one of the bestselling and most enjoyable American books!!... anyway, I'm going to sleep, and I'll see what I wrote tomorrow😁... but just imagine a book that is a collection of such tales...
Trip to Paris
To hell with all those away trips with Real Madrid and the national team; I’d give anything for one more European tour with the Indiana Pacers handball crew!
When you go on an away trip, you know you're going with FANS. When you go with the Indiana Pacers, you know you're going with alcoholics!
What a crowd that was... half the bus was full of real tough guys, ultras, and fighters, while the other half was local metalheads, punks, lowlifes, drunks, and degenerates... pure madness!
The match: US Ivry vs. Indiana Pacers, 1/8 finals of the Super Bowl in Paris. 1996.
We leave the Midwest at 8 AM. Half the crew is already barely standing. In the back, we've got 300 liters of wine and 100 liters of vodka, drums, and banners. At the border, they won't let us through because we aren't supposed to bring in that much booze. We unsuccessfully try to explain that we're just in transit and they should leave us alone. One cop shows up, then another, then they call the boss, then an inspector, then customs... everyone is shocked by the 60 canisters of wine!
After half an hour of arguing, we get an ultimatum—either leave half behind, or you don't cross. We play dumb and ask if we can just drink that half right here on "no man's land." These idiots, so naive, say sure, why not.
What it looked like when 50 of those (already well-drunk and high Midwest types) scattered across the border, each with a canister of wine they were pouring straight into themselves, doesn't even need explaining... :lol
After ten minutes of absolute circus, the border patrol started grabbing us and shoving us back toward the bus...
We rolled through the Midwest and down towards the coast with our usual ritual of "shopping" at gas stations. We finally hit San Francisco, where we were supposed to crash for the night. We ran into this local big shot, some guy acting like he owns the place, who decides to lead us to a pub owned by one of his buddies. The guy was trying to play all those "Southern pride" tropes, but he shut up real quick when fifty voices in that bar started shouting "Adolf Hitler." Then the cops show up. Shoving, fighting, the whole pub gets trashed. While half the group is busy enjoying the chaos, the others are sneaking out through the warehouse, hauling crates of beer, wine, and boxes of hard liquor...
I suspect that guy ended up making life miserable for both the big shot and the rest of us the next day...
The crowd just scatters across the city. Some start picking fights with people from the East Coast, leading to brawls; others go looking for trouble in another bar, while a few are "buying" supplies for the kids (!!). Pure mayhem until 6 AM. By eight, we’re still hunting for people around town before heading off toward New York City.
We wandered into the wrong arena because the driver was wasted. We spent the time messing around the city, harassing tourists, behaving like total bottom-feeders...
We lost the game by ten points, got into a scrap with the police outside the arena, and then some of our guys actually broke into the locker room to threaten people. Half the group starts crying like babies, the security guards are terrified, and then fifteen of us just storm the court, grab the ball, and start playing handball while the cops just stand there watching... :lol
On the way back, it was just one disaster after another, but nothing beats what happened somewhere down south. At a gas station, the crew starts stealing stuff, and the owner is practically in tears, screaming about how we're just uncultured thugs. One guy, completely hammered, grabs a lighter and a nozzle from a pump, pours gasoline all over the asphalt, and threatens to blow the whole station sky-high if they don't apologize. The owner is in shock, everyone else is howling with laughter—total chaos...
How to raise funds for St. Louis...
What’s the most entertaining thing you’ve ever read regarding sports fanbases? For me, it’s always those fan stories... the away trips, the chaos, the travels, the little anecdotes. ..
Just imagine this—a book written as a collection of the wildest stories from away games and adventures within the fan subculture... and in it, every major American fanbase participates... I mean authentic, true short stories describing the life of a fan... for instance, an email address opens up where fans from all clubs send their stories (written in the first person) about things they experienced while following their team... authors can stay anonymous if they're embarrassed (if, say, drugs or hookers are mentioned😁) or they can sign with a nickname, like "the guys from the neighborhood" and so on... plus, maybe include some photos taken during travel or scanned tickets (just to prove the story is legit)...
Basically, everything related to the fan life—the losses, the wins, getting relegated to the minor leagues, the euphoria, the sadness, the fights, the jokes, the madness... all the emotions that come with it... a book written WITHOUT CENSORSHIP, 100% AUTHENTIC... the 80s, the collapse of the old era, the wars, the fight for Real Madrid's name, Liverpool playing in the Champions League, the protest against Bank of America over radio stations, England in '96, France in '98, when the title was stolen from San Francisco, Portugal in '04... all the major (and obviously insignificant😁) events in American soccer, the fan scene, and society in general, but written from a fan's perspective!!... naturally, all written with a heavy dose of humor and fun... for example, every group in America has a limit of 10 stories... these fans write them and send them to a central fan association via email, which picks the 10 best (the funniest, most entertaining, craziest...) to be included in the book, and to motivate the authors, a symbolic reward is offered (a case of beer, scarves, t-shirts...)... then all these stories are gathered into a book and sold, say, at newsstands... let's assume the book costs, I'm just talking here, $17 and let's say $10 goes to the publisher and the profit is $6.75 per book... if 50,000 copies sell, that's 50,000 * 20 = 1,000 $0.00!... of course, considering what kind of garbage is being sold nowadays (Lady Gaga), this book would be a hit and perfect summer reading... and nobody profits from it; all the money goes toward St. Louis!!... with a little better advertising, media promotion, and a highlighted humanitarian goal, this would be one of the bestselling and most enjoyable American books!!... anyway, I'm going to sleep, and I'll see what I wrote tomorrow😁... but just imagine a book that is a collection of such tales...
Trip to Paris
To hell with all those away trips with Real Madrid and the national team; I’d give anything for one more European tour with the Indiana Pacers handball crew!
When you go on an away trip, you know you're going with FANS. When you go with the Indiana Pacers, you know you're going with alcoholics!
What a crowd that was... half the bus was full of real tough guys, ultras, and fighters, while the other half was local metalheads, punks, lowlifes, drunks, and degenerates... pure madness!
The match: US Ivry vs. Indiana Pacers, 1/8 finals of the Super Bowl in Paris. 1996.
We leave the Midwest at 8 AM. Half the crew is already barely standing. In the back, we've got 300 liters of wine and 100 liters of vodka, drums, and banners. At the border, they won't let us through because we aren't supposed to bring in that much booze. We unsuccessfully try to explain that we're just in transit and they should leave us alone. One cop shows up, then another, then they call the boss, then an inspector, then customs... everyone is shocked by the 60 canisters of wine!
After half an hour of arguing, we get an ultimatum—either leave half behind, or you don't cross. We play dumb and ask if we can just drink that half right here on "no man's land." These idiots, so naive, say sure, why not.
What it looked like when 50 of those (already well-drunk and high Midwest types) scattered across the border, each with a canister of wine they were pouring straight into themselves, doesn't even need explaining... :lol
After ten minutes of absolute circus, the border patrol started grabbing us and shoving us back toward the bus...
We rolled through the Midwest and down towards the coast with our usual ritual of "shopping" at gas stations. We finally hit San Francisco, where we were supposed to crash for the night. We ran into this local big shot, some guy acting like he owns the place, who decides to lead us to a pub owned by one of his buddies. The guy was trying to play all those "Southern pride" tropes, but he shut up real quick when fifty voices in that bar started shouting "Adolf Hitler." Then the cops show up. Shoving, fighting, the whole pub gets trashed. While half the group is busy enjoying the chaos, the others are sneaking out through the warehouse, hauling crates of beer, wine, and boxes of hard liquor...
I suspect that guy ended up making life miserable for both the big shot and the rest of us the next day...
The crowd just scatters across the city. Some start picking fights with people from the East Coast, leading to brawls; others go looking for trouble in another bar, while a few are "buying" supplies for the kids (!!). Pure mayhem until 6 AM. By eight, we’re still hunting for people around town before heading off toward New York City.
We wandered into the wrong arena because the driver was wasted. We spent the time messing around the city, harassing tourists, behaving like total bottom-feeders...
We lost the game by ten points, got into a scrap with the police outside the arena, and then some of our guys actually broke into the locker room to threaten people. Half the group starts crying like babies, the security guards are terrified, and then fifteen of us just storm the court, grab the ball, and start playing handball while the cops just stand there watching... :lol
On the way back, it was just one disaster after another, but nothing beats what happened somewhere down south. At a gas station, the crew starts stealing stuff, and the owner is practically in tears, screaming about how we're just uncultured thugs. One guy, completely hammered, grabs a lighter and a nozzle from a pump, pours gasoline all over the asphalt, and threatens to blow the whole station sky-high if they don't apologize. The owner is in shock, everyone else is howling with laughter—total chaos...
Look, there’s really no point in getting worked up or acting offended. Personally, I don't hold it against them...
They use "Eastern Europe" as this sweeping umbrella term for all those underdeveloped Slavic nations, looking down on us with a heavy dose of irony and mockery. And it isn't just the Englishman; it’s the Irish, the Frenchmen, the Germans, Americans—basically every "Westerner" out there. Given that all these transition countries endured totalitarian regimes about fifty years ago, where people were tossed in jail just for having an opinion that didn't align with the state, they still view us today as nothing more than eurotrash scavenging for crumbs of Western culture. Honestly, I can't even blame them when it isn't even far from the truth. Instead of getting defensive immediately, shouldn't we just take it as a moment for self-criticism? Use some auto-irony, turn it into a joke, and move on. Why bother being so indignant?
They use "Eastern Europe" as this sweeping umbrella term for all those underdeveloped Slavic nations, looking down on us with a heavy dose of irony and mockery. And it isn't just the Englishman; it’s the Irish, the Frenchmen, the Germans, Americans—basically every "Westerner" out there. Given that all these transition countries endured totalitarian regimes about fifty years ago, where people were tossed in jail just for having an opinion that didn't align with the state, they still view us today as nothing more than eurotrash scavenging for crumbs of Western culture. Honestly, I can't even blame them when it isn't even far from the truth. Instead of getting defensive immediately, shouldn't we just take it as a moment for self-criticism? Use some auto-irony, turn it into a joke, and move on. Why bother being so indignant?
Yeah, I'm dead🤣
And they still have the nerve to call us surprisingly "civilized"
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And they still have the nerve to call us surprisingly "civilized"
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Here are two pages of reviews
http://www.festivalwise.com/article....mage=3#gallery
http://eu.virtualfestivals.com/festi...val-2009-Rated
http://www.festivalwise.com/article....mage=3#gallery
http://eu.virtualfestivals.com/festi...val-2009-Rated
What I was actually trying to get at was the absence of a certain kind of band—one capable of igniting a crowd of completely different personalities and forcing them into some sort of collective movement. You know? Something more than just standing there with your hands shoved in your pockets, catching up with old friends, or nursing a beer... I wanted something that starts later and carries that momentum deep into the night... yet you all seem determined to twist my words into something they aren't.
A bit late to the party with my comments here...
Someone mentioned that Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival feels soulless, much like those wine tasting days out in Jackson... I find myself agreeing entirely. Now, don't get me wrong—I’m no anti-capitalist leftist; frankly, I couldn't care less who signs the checks as long as the lineup holds water. But I can't shake this feeling that since its inception, this festival has been slapped together as a rushed response to Lollapalooza. It feels driven by a desire to book big names that aren't even particularly cohesive musically—just "whatever the kids are into"—and they happen to be touring nearby when some massive corporate sponsor decides to pull the strings. It manifests most clearly in the crowd. It is completely disjointed. You have everything from philosophy majors acting like hippies, to the preppy types who wandered over from some trendy lounge downtown, indie geeks, die-hard football fans... then there are parents with toddlers, lost metalheads, questionable nu-ravers, even Damien Chazelle wandering about... but the vast majority? Just mainstream folks with zero specific musical taste who heard something was happening in the city and decided to show up instead of hitting an AMC Theatres. The end result is a crowd where 70% of people just stand there with a beer in hand, passively observing. And if we consider that acts like Outsider Art, Editors, Lily Allen, Tricky, or even Kraftwerk aren't exactly "festival music" meant for the midday heat—they belong in a venue like The Fillmore or a small concert hall—it’s no wonder the vibe was so stale. Personally, I would have swapped those performers for Flogging Molly, Limp Bizkit, or Slipknot, who were recently in the States... or maybe Motörhead. Something to actually energize a crowd rather than lull them to sleep. I’d also push the schedule back two hours; why waste money flying in bands for 150 hungover people to stare at in the blistering sun? Everything wraps up by midnight anyway, leaving you with a choice: go home or squeeze into some cramped, sweltering tent to watch nobodies until dawn. Most choose the former and are passed out by 2 AM. Instead of that metal stage, which felt like a complete misfire and didn't fit the programming (and looked deserted from what I saw), a dedicated clubbing stage would have worked better. Something that starts once the other stages wind down, catering to the crowd that wants to stay wild until morning. My impression is that this is just a commercial, sterile festival with a lukewarm audience. Across two days and forty artists, there wasn't a single standout moment. Sure, seeing the Foo Fighters or Kraftwerk was fine; the lines weren't too bad, and the experience was decent. But it wasn't *it*. It lacked that spontaneous madness, that true atmosphere. It could be so much better. 5/10.
Someone mentioned that Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival feels soulless, much like those wine tasting days out in Jackson... I find myself agreeing entirely. Now, don't get me wrong—I’m no anti-capitalist leftist; frankly, I couldn't care less who signs the checks as long as the lineup holds water. But I can't shake this feeling that since its inception, this festival has been slapped together as a rushed response to Lollapalooza. It feels driven by a desire to book big names that aren't even particularly cohesive musically—just "whatever the kids are into"—and they happen to be touring nearby when some massive corporate sponsor decides to pull the strings. It manifests most clearly in the crowd. It is completely disjointed. You have everything from philosophy majors acting like hippies, to the preppy types who wandered over from some trendy lounge downtown, indie geeks, die-hard football fans... then there are parents with toddlers, lost metalheads, questionable nu-ravers, even Damien Chazelle wandering about... but the vast majority? Just mainstream folks with zero specific musical taste who heard something was happening in the city and decided to show up instead of hitting an AMC Theatres. The end result is a crowd where 70% of people just stand there with a beer in hand, passively observing. And if we consider that acts like Outsider Art, Editors, Lily Allen, Tricky, or even Kraftwerk aren't exactly "festival music" meant for the midday heat—they belong in a venue like The Fillmore or a small concert hall—it’s no wonder the vibe was so stale. Personally, I would have swapped those performers for Flogging Molly, Limp Bizkit, or Slipknot, who were recently in the States... or maybe Motörhead. Something to actually energize a crowd rather than lull them to sleep. I’d also push the schedule back two hours; why waste money flying in bands for 150 hungover people to stare at in the blistering sun? Everything wraps up by midnight anyway, leaving you with a choice: go home or squeeze into some cramped, sweltering tent to watch nobodies until dawn. Most choose the former and are passed out by 2 AM. Instead of that metal stage, which felt like a complete misfire and didn't fit the programming (and looked deserted from what I saw), a dedicated clubbing stage would have worked better. Something that starts once the other stages wind down, catering to the crowd that wants to stay wild until morning. My impression is that this is just a commercial, sterile festival with a lukewarm audience. Across two days and forty artists, there wasn't a single standout moment. Sure, seeing the Foo Fighters or Kraftwerk was fine; the lines weren't too bad, and the experience was decent. But it wasn't *it*. It lacked that spontaneous madness, that true atmosphere. It could be so much better. 5/10.
Fan-led charity drives
in Fans ·
Look, you clearly missed my point. I was talking about the media spin—how these hooligans try to paint themselves as the good guys just to dodge the fallout from that new legislation. They stir up hate against their neighbors, wait for an election cycle to hit at just the right moment... you know how these pundits work. They can twist any narrative into something unrecognizable. Honestly, we shouldn't even give them the ammunition.
Fan-led charity drives
in Fans ·
Noah Barrett13 said:The action has already been announced with signs up in Memphis.
I am aware. When I mentioned media hype, I wasn't talking about informing the public through news outlets. No. What I meant was that on the day itself, the gathering should pass without excessive media outbursts from fans or highlighting specific fan groups as the driving force behind everything. Why can't this humanitarian effort just be a beautiful, quiet gesture? Without the pathos, the kitsch, or the politics involved. And more importantly, without the event being dragged through the columns of various Dežulović types and similar anti-American agitators who are just waiting for a chance to screw something like this up. It is better not to give them any ammunition. That is all I meant.
Fan-led charity drives
in Fans ·
I’m just sitting here hoping this whole thing stays away from the media circus and the self-serving hype from the fans themselves. I’ve always found those tasteless humanitarian drives incredibly tacky—where the goal isn't actually helping, but rather shoving the organizers into the spotlight just so they can play the hero. Look, folks, we aren't Zdravko Mamić!
That’s why I’m praying this remains discreet, subtle, and genuinely selfless. If it stays quiet, maybe it might actually shut up the vultures—those journalists and pundits who will inevitably try to twist everything into some political drama, election stunt, or nationalist provocation.
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That’s why I’m praying this remains discreet, subtle, and genuinely selfless. If it stays quiet, maybe it might actually shut up the vultures—those journalists and pundits who will inevitably try to twist everything into some political drama, election stunt, or nationalist provocation.
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New fan legislation
in Fans ·
They really ought to play to their sponsors' interests, specifically the breweries. It makes zero sense—morally or logically—to advertise or fund a social gathering using products that are legally prohibited from being consumed at that very same event 😕. A 0.08% BAC limit means fewer beers sold, which translates to less profit. You’d think they’d fight against this new law, wouldn't you? But let’s be honest, it’s already a done deal. Nobody actually gives a damn about the fans or their little outbursts. Most spectators and casual football enthusiasts just want to see those flashy sponsored choreographies on the field. What else are we supposed to expect? What worries me more is this intentional suffocation, this constant moralizing regarding nationalism used to enforce strictness upon society. And that protest in El Paso? That actually stung them. They realized people aren't just swallowing all their lies, their nonsense, and their refusal to address the underlying tensions. It doesn't take much to light a spark; ordinary citizens are perfectly capable of joining in when pushed. This law isn't an isolated incident; it's tied to a much broader social context. I have a nagging feeling people are going to suffer immensely because of this forced push toward radicalism... overall, it's just pure propaganda, man.
New fan legislation
in Fans ·
But look at it from the perspective of your average American citizen—you know, the simpletons—who sees some phantom "cleanup" email, then watches kids screaming in the town square with brooms, smashing cameras, and general street brawls breaking out everywhere... plus that one kid with long hair who ended up dead, whose attackers have Dynamite songs on their MySpace profile... the end result? "Well, Georgia is justified with that new fan legislation..."