Hey everyone, listen up—we’re in a philosophy forum, not some self-help seminar or a place for tarot readings and other nonsense.
Just let me contemplate my own mortality in peace; it isn't negative, it's just a little mental exercise.
But you all jumped to conclusions immediately. Honestly, we are drowning in this modern wave of "self-help" garbage. Even Orwell missed how bad this would get.
It's nothing but negativity from you lot, seeing everything through blackest lens. What are you even doing in an American philosophy forum, if I may ask?
The President was basically a Hollywood actor back then. A total precedent. New careers were popping up everywhere. Women were rocking those permed curls, denim, and puffed sleeves. I had just come out of my first marriage. I was 31, in my prime. Now, Adele has hit 50. It feels like yesterday, yet 26 years have vanished. Fast forward to 2010. The President is an African American. Another precedent. Women are wearing plastic breasts and lip fillers. I’ve just emerged from my third marriage. It's as if nothing has changed at all. It's terrifying how time slips away. In the twilight of my life, having long since passed 50, I find myself reflecting. On time, on life, and on that approaching, inevitable... on George Orwell, who hasn't a clue. Loser.
//Note to the moderators: this isn't a literature discussion. I'm clearly not contemplating George Orwell's novel; I'm contemplating the twilight of my own life and the end that looms ahead.
No, I'm not sick, I haven't been diagnosed with anything, and I'm not suicidal. I'm just being realistic, knowing that at 57, the end is drawing closer.
vividbear272 said:I know 😁 Is that why my stomach is acting up?
Of course. Gut flora doesn't just affect your intestines; it impacts the entire digestive tract, which actually starts in your mouth. A huge portion of digestion happens in the gut, so if your microbiome is out of whack, your digestion suffers. This puts extra strain on your stomach, forcing it to pick up the slack.
vividbear272 said:But my stomach doesn't actually hurt—I already mentioned that. There's no burning sensation either. Good grief, I was just taking Sumamed for no reason then; my doctor prescribed it because of a cyst in my throat 🙄 which my ENT specialist said was perfectly normal, so he just gave me some rinse to gargle with instead. I took three Sumamed pills about two months ago 🤷 So that's probably it. I wasn't having any symptoms back then... Then the diet 😢 anything else besides that? I was taking Pepto-Bismol, but I didn't really notice any improvement 🤷
Next time you feel that cyst coming on, grab a glass of plain lukewarm water and stir in two teaspoons of regular table salt. Then just gargle with it.
What on earth is Sumamed?😕
As for those symptoms, I'm telling you: eat yogurt, cheese, and other fermented foods to help restore your gut flora.
Come on guys, get real. Kimi's title is worth five times more than if Alonso had won it back in 2007 or if Hamilton had taken it, simply because of the fact that he clawed his way back from a 17-point deficit—or whatever that gap was. You need a damn high IQ to pull that off. That's why he's a deserved, more than deserved, champion.
There is absolutely no way Kimi lost that title by accident, just like Hamilton or Alonso didn't lose theirs by chance—it happened because of their own mistakes, like Alonso in Japan or Hamilton in China. That's just the painful truth.
Chris Ortiz said:That’s fair enough, but Kimi was incredibly dominant that season with the most wins—if I recall correctly, he had six while everyone else was stuck with three or four—which makes him more than a deserving champion.
A textbook case of looking at reality through pure statistics.
bluetinker33 said:Well, this whole thread just veered completely off the rails... ...the actual question was about chest pains and whether anyone else had been through something similar, but of course, the nitpickers managed to find something to argue about, turning the whole thing into a debate over which side of the body the heart is actually on. I mean, Edward Murphy4, you know that Henry Evans3 and I are basically from another galaxy, so we clearly have three hearts—one on the left, one on the right, and one right in the middle, FORGET ABOUT IT...
It's likely just an intercostal muscle strain, nothing major.
In my estimation, he should still be perfectly fine and healthy.
Hasn't it been over a year now? Someone should check in and give us an update.
A fantastic result today for US after a lot of hard work improving The Car; today Fernando and Felipe secured a perfect 1-2 finish. What makes this even better is the massive gap we built over our primary rivals. It’s incredibly encouraging and suggests we’re ready to mount a serious challenge in the second half of what has turned into one of the closest F1 seasons in modern history.
As some of you might have heard, we did pick up a penalty. It doesn't change the race outcome, but the Stewards weren't happy with how Felipe handled defending against Fernando towards the end of the race. Per the regulations, drivers are expected to race hard right until the checkered flag.
I wanted to step in and clarify things because it's a bit complicated. Let me be perfectly clear: there is zero favoritism here at Ferrari. If anything, the team's loyalty to Felipe is unmatched given his many years with us. However, the fact of the matter is that Fernando at that stage of the race was quicker. We relayed that to Felipe, and ultimately, it’s up to both drivers to maximize the performance of both cars without colliding—something we saw happen with Red Bull just a few weeks back.
Both our drivers are sharp, level-headed professionals. They understand that attacking one another serves no purpose and would only make the team look disorganized and amateurish. We were also feeling the heat from Vettel in 3rd, so it wouldn't have made sense for either Ferrari driver to drive slower than their actual pace; that's why we let Felipe know Fernando had the advantage. Since they are both Ferrari drivers, Fernando did not attempt to attack his teammate from behind nor did Felipe attempt to close the door on Fernando as the net result for Ferrari could have been disaster. Honestly, this is exactly why we invest so heavily in world-class drivers. We need them to use their heads just as much as their pedals—we aren't looking for reckless teenagers.
Ultimately, they both did a stellar job securing that 1-2 while holding off Vettel in the Red Bull. Because of that, the whole team is feeling good tonight. We’re proud to have a squad that operates as a single unit, which, as we've learned over the years, is the only way to win World Championships. We’re celebrating this win tonight and hope to carry this momentum into the next rounds.
I've attached a quick shot of our drivers' reactions immediately after exiting the cars... they clearly know how hard everyone at Ferrari worked for this victory today.
Forza Scuderia!
Are you kidding me? They were actually worried about Vettel catching them!?
urbanowl96 said:There haven't been many instances like that, but my personal favorite goes all the way back to the 1956 Italian GP. It was the season finale. Fangio had to retire, leaving Moss in the lead and Collins sitting in third. For Collins to snag his first world title, he needed to finish second; otherwise, Moss would take it. Musso, driving a Ferrari (just like Fangio and Collins), was sitting in second place. He was asked to hand his car over to Fangio, but he refused—he wouldn't yield to Fangio, and he wouldn't let Collins through either. Eventually, Collins pulled into the pits, voluntarily handed his car to Fangio, and Fangio finished second to secure his fourth title. If Collins had just kept racing, he likely would have finished second anyway since Musso dropped out, making him the first Englishman to become a world champion—yet today, almost nobody remembers his name.
So, here we have a single team where team orders were ignored and true teamwork was completely absent.
That’s why he got punished by fate two years later. Nowadays, fate doesn't bother punishing people anymore...
Sure, he punished Massa, but what does that even matter when this guy came back even more clueless than before?
Honestly, I found myself thinking yesterday that Massa might have done that on purpose just to make the whole thing look rigged... and after browsing some international forums, it seems I'm certainly not the only one who feels that way.
When Alonso was right on the verge of overtaking him, the team radio was basically just broadcasting his sheer disbelief that they were playing games with the agreement; honestly, they could have collided at any second there... I honestly suspect that everything unfolding later on was purely spontaneous, which might actually offer some clarity regarding Smedley's sheer clumsiness during that stretch... I am more convinced than ever that Massa did that on purpose.
The controversy surrounding Halabuka exists for a reason, and honestly, it stems directly from the reality that Ferrari actually has the pace right now. That’s exactly why you see Horner scrambling, trying so desperately to prove himself and reclaim some ground. It's quite telling, really. But then you have his own driver essentially stating that being second isn't even a bad thing for the other guy, which just adds another layer to this whole mess.
Honestly, I think we’ve had more than enough debate regarding this particular situation...
Does anyone actually have a decent explanation for why Fettel blocked Alonso right at the start? Honestly, when I took a look at the onboard footage from Massa's car, it struck me—actually, I'm absolutely certain—that Vettel was even slowing down, let alone clearly being blocked. Is that actually permitted?
Fettel has two main issues.
First; he often messes up right at the start, then he panics, his adrenaline spikes, and he turns into a complete idiot by lunging at his rival. He pulled the exact same stunt on Webber. He lacks maturity. And honestly, in my opinion, he's a bit dim.
I was convinced Alonso was going to run him down after the race, just like he did to Massa at Nürburgring back in 2007, but clearly, he had other things on his mind once the race ended; he probably cooled off.
slydrifter39 said:What should Alonso have said at the press conference? "Yes, it was your order, just ask the boss to let me through." Then they actually would've punished them. What I'm seeing here is just typical Italian sloppiness. Instead of planning it out ahead of time and masking it like the English do, they execute it with the same level of incompetence seen in their pit stops during the pre-Schumacher era—you know, when they couldn't even tighten a wheel and Mansell ends up sliding into a wall on three wheels.
Even the journalists at the BBC are out here defending them (give me a break!).
Yeah, let's slap them with some penalties since they're sloppy and disorganized. Plus, they aren't even cheating well enough. Honestly, rigging a race isn't even unsportsmanlike—it's just optimizing results. Like I said before, what's the point of having two drivers on a team if they both have to work against the overall result?
Look, I gotta mention Massa. He had his shot at the title back in 2008, but he choked because he just didn't have the backbone to handle the pressure. You can't keep handing him opportunities forever. And look at Barrichello—he was the number two guy at Ferrari, then last year he was supposedly on equal footing, and what did he actually achieve? Absolutely nothing.
Estoril 1991, except he was driving for Williams back then; look at that damn English team go.
All jokes aside, I completely agree that this was pathetic, sloppy, miserable, and just plain cowardly.
Joshua Newman2 said:There is a distinction here, and I will attempt to explain it: we can speculate that McLaren, Williams, or anyone else employs team orders; people can claim it and be certain, but they don't *know*. But when something like this actually happens, then it becomes a fact. And that knowledge "kills" the sport, the team, and the driver's integrity. Alonso might win the championship now, but he’ll always face the criticism that he couldn't beat his own teammate, and wouldn't have become champion if he hadn't been forced to move out of the way. That doesn't just cast a shadow on the title; it plunges it into total darkness. As for Massa, after this, he can talk all he wants about his form, tire temperature issues, or his ambition and readiness to win, but after yesterday, he's nothing more than a water carrier. Until he moves to another team, nobody will ever take him seriously again. From yesterday onward, his role is simply to fill the grid and look after Fernando Alonso's interests.
Did Button let Hamilton through, or did Hamilton overtake him? If we knew for a fact that he let him through, Button would be no different from Barrichello to Schumacher, Massa to Alonso, or some IT geek serving a powerful leader in a prison cell: just a tool meant to move when things get uncomfortable. But we don't know. We can only assume one way or the other, so Button still maintains some semblance of driver integrity, and Hamilton, if he becomes champion, will have the integrity of a true champion. That is the difference!
I’m sure you all remember how thrilled Alonso seemed just recently when they extended Massa's contract. Well, it turns out that wasn't just coincidence; with that deal, Massa essentially agreed to play his part. Unfortunately, since Ferrari clearly hasn't figured out how to get their actors to deliver a convincing performance, they really should have looked for a number two driver who wouldn't occasionally trip up Alonso. This current setup is easily the worst-case scenario.
Integrity is my foot. Even the guy who took the 2008 title didn't have much integrity during those first couple of days right after Glock-gate, but all that fades fast. In the end, you're just left with names on a piece of paper, yet people still insist on saying he decorated himself with that 2008 World Champion title.
Besides, where was Senna's integrity back in 1990? Or Schumacher's in 1994? It doesn't matter; it's all in the stats, and that’s what counts. It's not "Schumacher is a six-time champ plus one questionable win," it's just seven-time champ. Statistics are relentless.
Mark Ruiz8 said:Bravo Ferrari 🙏 They could have handled the release a bit more subtly—not that it matters much. If I were running the team, I’d probably do the exact same thing—tell Mass to let his teammate through if he actually has a shot at the title. As for the rest of you complaining, I'm curious—how would you handle things if you were actually in charge?
I wouldn't have pulled him into the pits immediately after Alonso. I would've kept him out for another 2 or 3 laps just long enough for Alonso to pass through the pit lane, allowing him to maintain his position ahead of Vettel. It just required taking a tiny bit of a risk, which was totally doable given the gap to Vettel was large enough.
hiddenstag said:To be honest, I’m at a loss for how to handle my own rage. I’ve always been one of those people who, once I set my mind to something, I see it through to the end. If things don't go according to plan, my first instinct is usually to go off on someone. I’ve actually climbed quite high in my career, and I hold a pretty senior management position now. But what really gets under my skin—what I struggle with most—is seeing people half-ass their jobs or just totally slack off. It throws me completely out of whack, and I feel like I lose all control. There are moments where I just want to smash everything in sight, and it takes me a long time to finally settle down. I just don't know how to find some calm.
Find yourself a woman, go hook up somewhere. Grab a beer. Go hiking. Pick up a book—but skip those modern "how to be a better manager" types of nonsense. Read something classic instead, maybe some Bukowski.
Then you might realize there's more to life than just your job.
Edward Howard2 said:Why on earth should he move for a teammate who clearly wasn't skilled enough to pass without crashing? Just because of a salary? Man, billions of people earn a paycheck, and most of them don't let their coworkers or bosses push them around. Did he get an official team order to let the guy through? Nope. Was Webber officially designated as the number two driver who has to play nice and yield? No way... Webber held his line and didn't budge an inch. He stayed stubborn and stuck to his lane because, legally speaking, he had every right to stay put. It was Vettel who tried a move he clearly couldn't pull off, and then ended up crashing straight into his own teammate. A little later, the much smarter Button tried to overtake his teammate as well. Since he actually knew what he was doing, he managed to pull it off for a moment—though he might have had to give the spot back later. He definitely didn't keep pushing like a madman, and in the end, the smarter Button walked away with 18 points that Vettel could have grabbed. Look, I wasn't jumping into this thread to debate who’s more to blame, since everyone's going to have their own take on that anyway. I only quoted you because you claimed Vettel doesn't get involved in the fighting. I posted the pic just to remind you that isn't true. Regardless of who we think is in the wrong... that look on Vettel's face is nothing less than a declaration of war. What you or I think about whether his reaction was fair is totally irrelevant to the fact that the fight has started.
It’s just that classic, fake American "everyone is special" mentality.
Just being a servant—staying a subordinate and settling for whatever scraps they throw you.
Heh, Webber is Australian, haha! He isn't some local hero like Ivica Kostelić or that uneducated kid Čolak.
As far as I'm concerned, Webber is completely to blame. In a situation like that, he should've moved. For the paycheck he pulls and the car he drives, he owes something to the team. There were plenty of empty seats in the stands, but apparently, it was just too much to ask him to move aside for his faster teammate.
That same Webber took him out in the last race, too. And let’s not forget how he slammed into Hamilton and likely ruined his podium finish.
So, in my book, Vettel's expression is totally justified. Thanks for the photo.
Why on earth would he move over??? He has every right to fight for position! Especially when he's leading the pack!!!
It was nothing more than a racing incident, and pointing fingers like that just makes him look crazy.
The real war started once that incompetent team principal took Vettel's side.
Joshua Newman2 said:I can't quite put my finger on why, but I have this nagging feeling that Mercedes might actually pull off something decent this race. It’s probably delusional, but intuition doesn't always need a logical basis. 😁
It’s a safe bet that Red Bull will be the class of the field, but given the increasing likelihood of them tearing each other apart in a sibling rivalry, they might just leave a window open for McLaren or Ferrari to make a dent. Honestly, if Fernando Alonso doesn't grab a win soon, he might just check himself into a clinic in Chicago out of pure frustration.
I’d love to see Robert Kubica, Jenson Button, and Mark Webber at the post-race press conference. Actually, if we could get Kamui Kobayashi in there too, he could probably fill in for any of them. :S
kajgot. Bridgestone sent out supersoft and hard compounds, so expect a repeat of Canada.
The internal fighting will also end the second Dieter Mateschitz decides to step in.
Did you see how Webber changed his tune? He said too much, and then Dieter insisted they all get treated equally even if it meant losing the championship. Dieter knows what the fans want—the audience needs to be satisfied—and that wasn't happening since most of the fans sided with Webber.