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2010 British GP - Silverstone (July 11) in Formula 1 ·
Joshua Newman2 said:We can mess around all we want, but Jenson Button is—in my eyes, right after his teammate and before anyone else flying out of a wrecked Red Bull—the main candidate for this year's title. It’s that whole "still waters run deep" vibe: nothing flashy or breath-taking, just consistently solid without any unnecessary drama. Much like the understated Alain Prost. 🙏

Thank goodness some people have finally opened their eyes.

Maybe we'll actually reach a point where we can openly admit that Alain Prost was the better, more articulate driver than Ayrton Senna. Those four titles versus three, and fifty-one wins against forty-one, aren't just random stats; they are proof of pure dominance.

And let's be real: one guy is enjoying retirement while the other just burned out, which is worth considering. One was smart, the other wasn't. Those are the facts, folks. Just facts.
2010 British GP - Silverstone (July 11) in Formula 1 ·
Seriously though, sunshine, when are you planning on locking this thread up?

Turns out silvercobra68 was actually spot on regarding the internal politics over at Red Bull.

And then you had those underground intellectuals popping up with all that "lone poet among the troops" rhetoric and whatnot.
2010 British GP - Silverstone (July 11) in Formula 1 ·
briskhound76 said:Do I even need to point out that Webber has shown a level of backbone the other drivers clearly lack? It’s no wonder his popularity climbs with every race, while those other two just continue their inevitable slide into irrelevance.😉

Mark Webber is easily the most mentally resilient driver on the grid. On top of that, he’s incredibly fast and possesses a deep technical understanding of the car. He's a clear candidate for the number one spot.

It’s no small feat to go up against your own team and strike back the best way possible—with a win.

I’m reading some narrow-minded takes above where people are calling his start "too aggressive" toward his teammate. Just so everyone is on the same page: Sebastian Vettel himself admitted that he ruined his own clutch during the start, not because of Mark Webber. Besides, Vettel was actually the one who lunged toward Webber's side first.
F1: Then vs. Now in Formula 1 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:Found it. It was South Africa after all. Tom Pryce was the one who lost his life. People just tend to forget these things over time...

Hold on, are you actually trying to act like an expert here or something?

Look, we all know the fire extinguisher crushed his helmet and caused that horrific injury on the track, but you didn't mention any of that. I'm genuinely surprised.

Your knowledge is pretty thin.
F1: Then vs. Now in Formula 1 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:Look, "grandpa," I’ve got plenty of years on me too, so you might be barking up the wrong tree here...😉 I have to disagree regarding Lauda. The way he drove was nothing short of pure fantasy. I haven't followed everything closely, but we definitely agree on Prost. Even Senna once remarked that Prost possessed a truly unique and superior technique for navigating corners. Do you remember that legendary race at Brands Hatch😁 back in the 80s—maybe '83 or '84—where he practically crossed the finish line on fumes? He had to wiggle the car left and right just to keep the engine fed, and then he pulled it off in those final meters... Those were the days. Real duels. As for Senna? I never really cared for him. He lacked a certain sharpness and tended to overcook it when he had a half-lap lead (just look back at Monaco in '89). It’s easy to win when you're sitting in the best car on the grid. Rindt was really a one-season wonder who flew under the radar. Now, the elder Villeneuve was much, much better. And do you remember who he collided with before his accident at Spa? I’ll never forget the footage of that shoe coming off. Then there was Pironi. That man was something else. If he hadn't broken, he would have been a world champion before meeting his end at sea in '87...
EDIT: It just occurred to me about Carlos Pace's death in '77. Von Stuck got caught out in the same spot where Pace went down. I loved watching Carlos; he was genuinely gifted. Such a shame he didn't make it. Von Stuck was a legend, sure, but his talent in the 70s never quite got the recognition it deserved...

Monaco wasn't '89, it was '88, and it wasn't Spa, it was Zolder—those are factual errors.

This post is riddled with logical fallacies; I won't even bother commenting, maybe tomorrow when I'm sober. Goodnight.
F1: Then vs. Now in Formula 1 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:🤦 Lauda is a driver whose talent is debatable. If it weren't for Alain being such a powerhouse...🤦🙂

Look, I’m no kid, son. I could easily be your grandfather. Or at least some old geezer you'd want to avoid.

If you've been following this sub for a while, you might have noticed that I'm one of those rare users who almost always praises Prost. In my book, he’s arguably a more composed driver than even Ayrton Senna.

First off, that’s your take. Second, I remember Niki Lauda from back in the early 70s when he was young, arrogant, and—if I dare say so—actually quite bad. Look, the guy has guts; there’s no denying he pushed those March and BRM cars way past their limits. But let’s be real: if Jackie Stewart had stayed in F1, if François Cevert hadn't died, if Jochen Rindt hadn't been lost, and if Emerson Fittipaldi hadn't faded out, Niki would never have become what he is today. He’s just the one blade of grass left standing after the rest of the meadow has been mowed down.
Let’s run a quick thought experiment using Sergio Perez. Imagine a scenario where both Vettel and Hamilton are taken out of the equation—a totally plausible outcome given how things looked back in the 70s with drivers like Cevert, McLaren legends, or Rindt. Now, imagine Button sees a colleague go down and decides to walk away from racing entirely, much like Stewart did after Cevert’s accident. To top it off, let's say Alonso moves over to drive for a backmarker team, similar to how Fittipaldi went to drive for his brother Wilson. What does that leave us with? We end up with a powerhouse like Red Bull or McLaren picking up Perez. Does he snag two championships? Sure. But does that make him a better driver than Hamilton, Button, Vettel, or Alonso? Of course not. That’s exactly what I mean when I call Lauda a hypothetical version of Perez.

What else can I tell you? Look, there’s a massive difference between reading statistics, interpreting them, and actually living through it all firsthand. Back in 1972, when I was just a nineteen-year-old kid, I moved to America because the government here back then had basically stripped my family of everything we owned. My old man had to work for Union Pacific, waiting on trains and signaling them with those handheld flags. My mother spent her days working hard just to keep us afloat while I was growing up. I had two choices: spend my whole life as a low-level track worker and end up like some local drunk—who, mind you, comes from a pretty noble lineage, though that means nothing when the state decides to seize everything—or head out into the world to see what it’s all about. I started at the bottom, cleaning swimming pools for a service company. At the time, I didn't know a thing. I was just a simple guy who knew how to scrub moss off a liner; I barely even spoke English. But things shifted once my boss discovered my background. By 1974, he actually put me in charge of one of his companies—he owned several, and this one handled the cleaning supplies. Through him, I slowly began to understand how the world works. By 1975, I made my first trip to Indianapolis, and I was hooked. Some might wonder what a former pool cleaner could possibly know about American open-wheel racing. Well, it’s true, but it counts. My boss was a major figure within USAC, and one of his companies actively sponsored dirt, sprint, and midget car drivers throughout the 70s, along with several IndyCar entries. That’s how I got my foot in the door. I even met Emerson Fittipaldi when he came to drive CART, so I’ve actually stood face-to-face with men who went toe-to-toe with Niki Lauda. You can rest easy knowing I’m closer to the actual history and the people involved than you could ever imagine. There is plenty more to tell, but I’ll share it all in due time. Just do me a favor: don't call me "kid."

Best regards,👍🙂
Canada vs. Vietnam - June 13, 2010 in Formula 1 ·
Chris Ortiz said:The sports media coverage from yesterday and today has been absolutely tearing into Fernando Alonso, and honestly, they have every right to.

An overrated prima donna.😂

Sports news!?!? What even is that!?!? Oh, right—it's that cheap, low-quality trash people call "the local sports tabloids."

Seriously, what are you even spending your money on?$2.00 It’s disgusting. This kind of journalism stinks worse than a pile of garbage left out in the summer sun for a week, someone stepped in it, and then someone wrapped the whole mess in plastic and tossed it in the microwave.
US Grand Prix 2010 in Formula 1 ·
Morgan Murphy7 said:Chandok is doing great 🙏

You have to admit, this is one of the more pleasant surprises of the entire season.

Back when he and Senna were teammates in GP2 back in 2008, Senna was absolutely tearing him apart all season long. But now, for a few races in a row, Karun has clearly been outperforming Bruno.

It's strange—strange, to say the least. Even though Bruno Senna is my favorite, I think Chandok is handling F1 much better. And if the rumors are true that he might replace that clown Liuzzi at Force India, I predict a very bright future for him.
US Grand Prix 2010 in Formula 1 ·
driftingbison4 said:Unlike Formula 1 drivers, who all seem to come from the most elite circles in the world—graduating from top-tier universities, marrying intellectuals, and squeezing in driving kids to prestigious private academies between PhD seminars—they somehow find the time to race Formula 1, all while enjoying full scholarships thanks to their "natural talent."

Come on, Joe, have a drink on me. Don't mistake that "glamour" you see on TV during a race for what an actual Formula 1 driver's life is like. If you look at most of these drivers' polished biographies, you won't find much difference between them and any big-name NFL players.

I love Formula 1, but soccer is my number one. I’d be pissed at CNN for not broadcasting Formula 1, but honestly, the World Cup is on a whole different level.

Canada is such an incredible race, and it always looks fantastic on TV. I'm pulling for Kubica—this track is absolutely his playground.

By the way, who’s actually calling the race? Blazic is off in Africa, Shapit quit, and now he's busy hosting some study program for the World Cup too?
Slavko Cvitković? Neven Novak? Jergovic?


Sure, they lack class—which is exactly why I miss having drivers like Elio de Angelis, Dan Gureny, Phil Hill, or Graham Hill around. But honestly, who cares about the drivers? I don't watch Formula 1 for the personalities. To be frank, Formula 1 isn't even my top tier; IMSA is. I watch motorsports primarily for the engineering. I’m fascinated by the tech and the cars themselves. That's why IMSA ranks above Formula 1 for me; there are fewer restrictions on the builds, but that's a whole different conversation.

My previous point was about the masses and the hordes that follow soccer—and I’m not just talking about Americans here, because let's be honest, a few million people is a drop in the bucket compared to the global population. What really worries me is the sheer number of uneducated simpletons out there. Take China, for example; you have over a billion clueless people, and somehow soccer is thriving there, yet they even have an F1 track where the grandstands are usually completely empty.

To me, it’s all just trivialization. Fifty or sixty years ago, people actually respected artistry—the grind, the relentless practice, the sheer discipline. Nowadays? It’s all about those talentless hacks. I was hanging out with a colleague of mine who’s dating one of those big-name pop stars—yeah, yeah, I know, I’m getting sucked back into the music scene again, and I can already hear the vultures circling to tear me apart—anyway, I asked her, "So, how much does he actually practice every day?" She just laughed at me. She goes, "Practice? Why would he bother? Only losers have time to practice. He needs to be out on the Strip so the paparazzi can get their shots." Can you believe that?

That’s exactly my point. Soccer is just a bunch of overpriced, overhyped strikers who spend more time partying than practicing. They show up, jog around for a bit, and call it a day. It’s all fluff. There’s zero Spartan discipline, no grit, no real grind—none of that hard work that actually makes someone an athlete.

You have these massive hordes of simpletons who stare at those elite players like they’re gods, dreaming that they—or their kids—might actually become something like them. That’s the core issue right there. Our fundamental civilizational values are under siege; we’re regressing as a society toward a state of systemic, collective stupidity, and football is the primary ambassador for that decline. That is why I hate football. Honestly, I just pity the misery people find in it. I feel for their shallow lives and the hollow existence being forced upon their children. And there are plenty of them. Think about the sheer number of failed athletes out there—just a mob of uneducated buffoons haunting dive bars and betting parlors. Then you have the crowds of mediocre ball-kickers, followed by the masses who are nothing more than victims of manipulation, occupying the nosebleed sections. I truly feel for these poor souls. My heart aches for their mothers, thinking about the struggle of raising them, feeding them, and sending them to school, only for it all to be for nothing. Their sons are merely insignificant pawns for a massive manipulator—just tiny cogs in a hellish machine designed to dismantle everything civilization has built. That’s why I’m angry. But I’m also just sad. Truly, deeply sad.

We humans possess a level of intellect unmatched by any other mammal on this planet. Yet, instead of celebrating that mental capacity, we seem obsessed with glorifying stupidity. That’s why I appreciate IMS, and to an extent, Formula 1—though even Formula 1 is becoming increasingly elitist. IMS remains a fundamentally technical sport. It has just enough glamour to dress up the show, but it doesn't compare to Formula 1. In that world, the true stars are the cars and, by extension, the highly educated engineers who designed them. To build those machines, you actually have to use your brain. I value IMS because it serves as an ambassador for human intelligence rather than being about superficiality and mindless hype. My disdain for pretentiousness stems from one thing: I can't stomach the fact that we are regressing. If we keep this up, in a thousand years, our intellect will be so diminished that monkeys will take over—or maybe pigs, since they're supposedly quite smart. We brought this on ourselves. I genuinely wonder how pigs will view humans in the 31st century. Maybe they'll farm us for sausage, or perhaps they'll see us as parasites and wipe us out. Who knows? Fortunately, I've only got about five or six years left in this world, so I won't have to stick around to find out. Thank God for that.

As for soccer, you saw how that World Cup went; it was nothing but a festival of primitivism. The Chicago police are a mess, the insurance systems are failing, and crime in Chicago is rampant. Now we'll see what soccer is really about. It’s easy to host a tournament in France, where the police function perfectly and civilization is at its peak, making it simple to keep a crowd under control. But down in that chaotic mess in South Africa? That's an impossible task.
F1: Then vs. Now in Formula 1 ·
Frank Collins85 said:Alright, so now you want me to channel all that inspiration and give you my take on the '90s too?

Unless you have Alzheimer's, everyone remembers the 90s.

Or if you weren't even born yet, you shouldn't be on this forum—you belong in preschool.
US Grand Prix 2010 in Formula 1 ·
stormybadger8 said:Joe, what are you even talking about? There's no way you actually hate the English.😲

The idea that the English invented soccer is nothing more than a myth. In reality, they gave us polo, cricket, golf, fox hunting, tennis, and things like that.

Soccer was probably invented by some ancient nomadic tribes kicking around a bundle of rags. Honestly, you see people in places like Morocco or Pakistan playing it in their backyards too—just a scrap of cloth, some dirt, and they're happy as can be.

The English used to be built a little differently—real old-school types. In the morning, they’d saddle up a horse, call over a few buddies, and head off into their private woods to hunt a couple of foxes just to serve up some meat for dinner. Then, by the afternoon, they’d grab a golf club and spend the rest of the day hitting balls around their own private estates.

Soccer used to be a game for the poor—people who didn't own a private field, just some shared patch of dirt that usually smelled like chicken manure and was constantly covered in dust. But since our miserable planet is infested with simpletons, this cursed "soccer" thing has spread like cancer across the entire globe, metastasizing until there’s no cure left. It's terrifying. Now, what do we have? Twenty-two uneducated idiots, fifteen of whom were imported from third-world countries, chasing a ball around. After the match, they go hang out with models, who are also uneducated. Then they get married and have kids who are equally uneducated. The people watching think this is all "totally cool," and everything goes to hell. Then, they strip formal education away from their own children and send them out to kick a ball—which used to be nothing more than a bundled-up rag—hoping their own kid can pull them out of poverty and misery. Sometimes it actually works; a young player moves to Europe, makes a fortune, and feeds an entire village. Everyone is happy, everyone cheers, and that's how the cycle continues. It's a cancer, call it whatever you want, but it's going to ruin us. That's all I've got to say.
US Grand Prix 2010 in Formula 1 ·
Damn soccer and whoever came up with it
F1: Then vs. Now in Formula 1 ·
You guys are acting like absolute children. You don't understand anything. Formula 1 is moving forward, not backward. If you want vintage racing, there’s plenty of it—you’ve got the Silverstone classics, the Jim Clark memorial at Hockenheim, the traditional Monza races, or those classic Saturday morning sprints before the 24 Hours of Daytona. Watch those instead of whining about bringing the past back to F1.

But obviously, F1 is something else entirely. F1 is supposed to be cutting-edge technology—the kind of stuff that leaves you breathless when you see it. Just like it was thirty years ago. All those technical solutions you keep mentioning were actually the peak of technology back in their day.

And now, let's finally bust another myth. It isn't true that F1 was "better" back then than it is today. It wasn't better, and it wasn't worse; it was just different. Some things were worse, some were better. Let's break it down;

The 60s
1) Drivers had to drive with massive margins because the cars were fragile, and frankly, because they were terrified. People were dying back then.

2) There were no TV broadcasts and no onboard cameras (unless you count the footage from Frankenheimer’s *Grand Prix* film).

3) On the grid, you had about ten professionals and about ten amateurs—people like Guy Ligier, who was a hockey player, or even more unconventional types like Michael Parkes, who clawed his way into a seat after spending years as a Ferrari engineer.

4) Sometimes those amateurs were actually quite talented, like von Trips or the son of a pharmaceutical tycoon, Joakim Bonnier, who actually managed to snag a couple of Grand Prix wins.

5) The performance gaps between cars were massive. Races would end with only two or three cars in the same lap, while everyone else was two or more laps down. How can you expect any unpredictability? Critics would say the only real uncertainty was whether the Lotus would hold together; if it did, they’d win, if not, it would be a Brabham driver or someone like that—rarely some random guy.

The 70s

1) "Safety" becomes the main topic. After losing about fifty colleagues in the previous decade, drivers started striking, complaining, and boycotting races more frequently.

2) TV coverage still isn't really a thing, or if it is, it's just highlights on Sunday night or sometimes even Monday.

3) Drivers are still driving conservatively, even though wings and slicks made driving much easier. Overtaking happens, but not nearly as much as we imagine. There were a few fun drivers like Peterson or Villeneuve—but honestly, nothing more exciting than Hamilton.

4) The number of wealthy trust-fund kids grows, and some of them even take championships—one before the Nürburgring barbecue era, one after. During the barbecue year, the title goes to none other than a playboy.

The 80s

1) Politics. The war between the FIA and FOCA.

2) After a lull, the "Ecclestone-ization" of the sport begins.

3) A lot of races boil down to fuel management. McLaren dominates in '84 and '85 simply because they are the most efficient, while Brabham struggles. Prost takes his third title. And Piquet gets three too. Hmm... leaves a big question mark over the quality of the drivers.

4) We have TV coverage now. Murray does wonders, which is great, but we don't hear Murray; we hear some guy with a monotonous voice, saying "Piquet first, Prost second..."

So, that's how it was. If there are any more questions, just ask.
Pros and Cons of Sebastian Vettel in Formula 1 ·
Besides, Mark Webber just ate Fettel alive again, which means my comparison to Jacques Villeneuve was actually a massive stretch; Fettel is looking more and more like Rubens Barrichello every day.
Pros and Cons of Sebastian Vettel in Formula 1 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:Then why don't you explain what's actually going on? You're pulling me into some drama I don't understand, or maybe there's some actual shady business involved here.☕

There is nothing going on between us, absolutely nothing—it's all just baseless insinuation😉. And you can rest easy; we aren't looking to bring you into our circle anyway🤷
Remake 2007 in Formula 1 ·
slybison8 said:Look—you’re being incredibly malicious and frankly, pretty rude. You start this pathetic thread asking people for their input, but the second anyone actually engages, you resort to insults and belittling them just because they aren't following your specific script.

Shame on you! 👎

Why should I be ashamed?

Because I happen to be highly perceptive, which allows me to build a psychological profile of whoever I'm debating based on a single association.😕
Remake 2007 in Formula 1 ·
slybison8 said:That was one incredibly ugly year—thankfully, it didn't happen again!

As a car enthusiast, I care about one thing: the tech, the engineering brilliance, the track action, and maybe a little bit of strategy.

Backroom politics and ego games don't interest me at all. For me, the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of 2007 is a "fantastic season."

So there it is. But go ahead, keep reading glory, fame, and my fate since I can tell that’s what actually interests you.
Remake 2007 in Formula 1 ·
It feels like we're about to watch the exact same show we saw back in the remake 2007, just with a different cast list.

Sebastian Vettel playing the part of Lewis Hamilton
Mark Webber stepping into Fernando Alonso's shoes
Fernando Alonso taking on the role of Kimi Raikkonen
Massa playing Massa

Red Bull acting as the new McLaren
Ferrari playing the part of Ferrari

Let's hear your thoughts!
Pros and Cons of Sebastian Vettel in Formula 1 ·
Roger Wright94 said:That's for silvercobra68! 👍 I love this level of clarity.

Exactly🙂 looks like we're on the same page👍
Pros and Cons of Sebastian Vettel in Formula 1 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:Don't even try to compare Sebastian Vettel to Jacques Villeneuve. That guy just sat in the most dominant car of his era and rode it to a title. Just look at how much faster Michael Schumacher was in the corners and in the rain🙏 Quote : The Best F1 driver 🙏, while everyone else is just a flash in the pan who disappears the moment they aren't in the fastest car on the grid. Vettel is a completely different breed. He hasn't had a dominant car yet, but he’s consistently been at the top fighting for wins. And then people have the nerve to say he can't drive. He might be the greatest talent of all time (after Michael Schumacher, obviously🙏) and once he gets a reliable car, he’s going to be champion. Even now, he isn't necessarily in the absolute fastest machine (someone already pointed that out), but the unreliability and stupid mechanical failures kill him. He hasn't made a single driving error so far. Why was he pushing on the edge with failing brakes? Because a true killer who has what it takes to be a champion has to mora drive like that. There is zero doubt: he is the best young driver in the entire Formula 1 circus. When threads like this start popping up, you know there's something to it. Hamilton is one of the dimmest drivers I've ever watched; only Andrea de Krasheris was even remotely close to being that clueless (though younger fans probably won't remember him, but he was definitely a moron, much like how we call Hamilton "hamo"😁)

Americans getting worked up again, wow, what happened now? Did someone lose their football game or something?🤣 😠