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GP Germany - 07/25/2010

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Participants Michael Lee4stormybadger8Frank Collins85mistybear87silvercobra68slynomad32Maria Nelson2Joshua Newman2Amanda Kellyhollowgull5fadedwalker18Edward Howard2Jason Campbell70redheron12Ryan Gomez4bluehawk3neonfalcon16wearypanther34crimsonstag84Chris OrtizHenry Evans3Keith Rodriguez27slybison8Timothy Lee11 …
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 RegularOP
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joined Oct 2009
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Check out this clip of Mark Webber breaking down the Hockenheim track from 2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRIs4KYtgEE

Links:

Check out the Hockenheimring site.

The Hockenheimring is basically just a high-speed sprint through the forest. It’s pretty straightforward racing.

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Schedule:

Practice 1 | Fri 10:00
Practice 2 | Fri 14:00

Practice 3 | Sat 11:00
Qualifying SAT 14:00

Race Sun 14:00
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Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 RegularOP
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joined Oct 2009
#2 ·
The forecast is calling for nice weather, maybe some light clouds or a stray shower during Saturday practice, but don't hold your breath. Weather is unpredictable, though, so who knows... hope dies last 😁

In the spirit of German racing, we should probably just host a massive watch party, order a mountain of bratwurst, and stock the fridge with plenty of cold beer

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stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#3 ·
When Michael Lee4 starts a thread, I just expect a Red Bull win. 🤣

Now it's Sebastian Vettel's turn. 😁

I was actually worried that miserable Vespasian would come along and ruin the whole thread. 🙂

Almost every time Vettel messes things up, 😬 Red Bull suffers a complete meltdown and their whole system falls apart. 🤣

This season:
Turkey V-Ret, W-3
China V-6, W-8
😱

Last year:
Belgium V-3, W-9
Valencia V-Ret, W-9
Barcelona V-4, W-3
Bahrain V-2, W-11
Turkey V-3, W-2

Red Bull's best result out of all these races was 2nd and 3rd at VN Turkey 2009; everything else is either mediocre or a total disaster. 😳
Zero wins for Red Bull when Vespasian opens a thread—it's 100% guaranteed by the stats. 🤣

Vespasian, you absolute menace, please never start another race thread again. 🙂
Frank Collins85 Frank Collins85 Active Member
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joined Dec 2007
#4 ·
mistybear87, delete this immediately. Under the threat of a permanent ban, I’m telling you to get Vespa to start a new thread, ASAP!!!
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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joined Nov 2010
#5 ·
Michael Lee4 said:The forecast is calling for nice weather, maybe some light clouds or a stray shower during Saturday practice, but don't hold your breath. Weather is unpredictable, though, so who knows... hope dies last 😁

In the spirit of German racing, we should probably just host a massive watch party, order a mountain of bratwurst, and stock the fridge with plenty of cold beer

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That one on the far right actually reminds me of a colleague from my old office; a few years back, we even put this photo on our team calendar. 🙂 🙏 🙏
silvercobra68 silvercobra68 Active Member
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joined Feb 2010
#6 ·
Beer, burgers, and BBQ

The Germans really know how to do it right
slynomad32 slynomad32 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#7 ·
I’ve been seeing chatter on other forums suggesting that Ferrari developed an engine map identical to Red Bull's...
silvercobra68 silvercobra68 Active Member
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joined Feb 2010
#8 ·
slynomad32 said:I’ve been seeing chatter on other forums suggesting that Ferrari developed an engine map identical to Red Bull's...

Good grief—what’s even the point of mapping a Ferrari engine to match a Renault, when their torque curves are completely different?

It's not about that; they actually redirected more exhaust gas into the BD, which is something McLaren really struggles with. McLaren is going to be in serious trouble if they don't get that sorted out.
Maria Nelson2 Maria Nelson2 Active Member
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joined Nov 2007
#9 ·
And just like that... everything goes south again once we hit the GP Germany..😁
slynomad32 slynomad32 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#10 ·
No, I wasn't actually referring to the map here... I just meant that even after you let off the gas, the gases continue to flow. I phrased that poorly...😁
slynomad32 slynomad32 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#11 ·
Fernando Alonso has completely messed everything up, those absolute amateurs 😂

just let Ferrari get their act together already 🙂
Joshua Newman2 Joshua Newman2 Active Member
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joined Jul 2009
#12 ·
I can't quite put my finger on why, but I have this nagging feeling that Mercedes might actually pull off something decent this race. It’s probably delusional, but intuition doesn't always need a logical basis. 😁

It’s a safe bet that Red Bull will be the class of the field, but given the increasing likelihood of them tearing each other apart in a sibling rivalry, they might just leave a window open for McLaren or Ferrari to make a dent. Honestly, if Fernando Alonso doesn't grab a win soon, he might just check himself into a clinic in Chicago out of pure frustration.

I’d love to see Robert Kubica, Jenson Button, and Mark Webber at the post-race press conference. Actually, if we could get Kamui Kobayashi in there too, he could probably fill in for any of them. :S
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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joined Nov 2010
#13 ·
slynomad32 said:No, I wasn't actually referring to the map here... I just meant that even after you let off the gas, the gases continue to flow. I phrased that poorly...😁

Are you suggesting that there's a constant exhaust pressure being maintained, regardless of how high the engine RPM actually climbs?
Does anyone else feel like the blown diffuser is essentially receiving a constant, steady stream of gases? It seems to maintain its efficiency regardless of where we are on the track. Wouldn't it be interesting if that airflow remained perfectly consistent through every turn?
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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joined Mar 2008
#14 ·
I ate those sausages. Once was enough for a lifetime.
Seriously, it felt like they stuffed them full of every spicy seasoning from India to Mexico. You're basically just spitting fire afterward.
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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joined Nov 2010
#15 ·
Michael Lee4 said:The forecast is calling for nice weather, maybe some light clouds or a stray shower during Saturday practice, but don't hold your breath. Weather is unpredictable, though, so who knows... hope dies last 😁

In the spirit of German racing, we should probably just host a massive watch party, order a mountain of bratwurst, and stock the fridge with plenty of cold beer

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once everyone has scattered toward the coast😢
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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joined Nov 2010
#16 ·
Amanda Kelly said:I ate those sausages. Once was enough for a lifetime.
Seriously, it felt like they stuffed them full of every spicy seasoning from India to Mexico. You're basically just spitting fire afterward.

That’s exactly why you need a cold beer to wash it all down. 😉
It’s not just any heat, either; it’s that crazy spicy stuff you find at Oktoberfest.
Joshua Newman2 Joshua Newman2 Active Member
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joined Jul 2009
#17 ·
Pitpass is giving away a 1:4 scale replica of the Mercedes steering wheel:
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=41489

To enter the giveaway, all you have to do is call the winner of GP Germany. They'll be picking the winners from the pool of people who actually get the prediction right.
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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joined Mar 2008
#18 ·
Joshua Newman2 said:I can't quite put my finger on why, but I have this nagging feeling that Mercedes might actually pull off something decent this race. It’s probably delusional, but intuition doesn't always need a logical basis. 😁

It’s a safe bet that Red Bull will be the class of the field, but given the increasing likelihood of them tearing each other apart in a sibling rivalry, they might just leave a window open for McLaren or Ferrari to make a dent. Honestly, if Fernando Alonso doesn't grab a win soon, he might just check himself into a clinic in Chicago out of pure frustration.

I’d love to see Robert Kubica, Jenson Button, and Mark Webber at the post-race press conference. Actually, if we could get Kamui Kobayashi in there too, he could probably fill in for any of them. :S

Doesn't look like an ideal track for Red Bull to me. It feels more like a McLaren setup.

As for those podium predictions of yours... I hope they stay as far from the podium as possible. When things go that way, it usually gives us something actually worth talking about.
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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joined Mar 2008
#19 ·
mistybear87 said:That’s exactly why you need a cold beer to wash it all down. 😉
It’s not just any heat, either; it’s that crazy spicy stuff you find at Oktoberfest.

That's exactly how it went down.
Next time, I'll just make sure to pack more prosciutto and cheese.
Joshua Newman2 Joshua Newman2 Active Member
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joined Jul 2009
#20 ·
Amanda Kelly said:Doesn't look like an ideal track for Red Bull to me. It feels more like a McLaren setup.

As for those podium predictions of yours... I hope they stay as far from the podium as possible. When things go that way, it usually gives us something actually worth talking about.


And I don't know, Amanda. It seems like almost every track this year has played right into Red Bull's hands, which makes me a bit pessimistic about anyone actually outrunning them in terms of pure pace. On the bright side, I am cautiously optimistic that they might just pull some sort of brilliant, innovative act of self-sabotage out of nowhere. 😁

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