Posts by Jerry Gray5

I'm sure some self-proclaimed expert will show up any minute now to explain everything to us 😉

Robin Anderson8 said:This isn't some new thing. We’ve seen Simic crippled by stones, a guy from the Riot Squad lost an eye, people in Dugopolje barely escaped being burned alive... thank God nobody died there. The real question is: when is someone actually going to die? And then what? More hypocritical truces and empty slogans.

We need to step up and have the veterans mentor the younger kids about boundaries, even if it’s incredibly hard once the adrenaline kicks in. But rules and respect have to exist.

And I'll say it again: people with certain reputations shouldn't be the ones writing this stuff for obvious reasons.

That whole "age" argument is total nonsense. It’s not about how old you are.

There are plenty of sane people with rational thoughts in this scene, but let's be real—this is pure nonsense. We're talking about a sense of idealism that maybe 30 people in any given group actually holds. As if we can just sit down, agree on something, and everyone will suddenly follow it? What a joke. At this rate, we deserve to see the culture crushed under the weight of modern soccer.

As for the ultras... they can keep dreaming.

Your whole squad could probably hold onto their fan loyalty longer than most people can hold onto their watches.

driftinghound3 said:I know 🤣
I honestly thought he was just messing with us 😉

But seriously, what kind of melody is this?

Peter Barrett said:Good grief, what do you mean "it's not coordinated"? The choreo was a mix—first the cards, then the flags, then the walkers in several stages. Just like what you'd see at a high-level match in Stuttgart. But whatever, the display and the flares were a solid five out of ten.

Yeah, right... pull the other one.

Jonathan Lewis3 said:I'm not being contrarian just for the sake of it; I'm just saying what's on my mind.
You know me well enough to realize that if someone isn't sucking up to anyone or playing favorites, that's just how I roll.
I don't need to go on a long rant about my past or everything I've done—anyone who actually knows me gets it.

The fact that you think Hajduk matters more than the Black Knights tells me everything I need to know. You’re basically the type of person who claims to have seen an entire action movie but missed every single actual stunt. That's proof enough for me.

If Hajduk were truly my number one priority, I’d be at every single game in the East Stand, soaking up the tension and enjoying the ride.

Stop talking nonsense...
You're completely lost in your own fantasy and mixing things up. Maybe one day you'll figure out what actually matters, but until then, go fish. 🙂

I honestly don't get who you guys are trying to spite by claiming your cliques matter more than the club itself.
Is that really how a "superfan" thinks? That being a bigger supporter means you get to throw more tantrums instead of actually doing something useful for the group?

The schedule shows plenty of support for the group, yet somehow everyone is still demanding even more from them???

John Richardson5 said:It makes sense. For half these people, the whole point is having their hometown printed on the stadium fence—it's pure ego. Forget about the actual quality of the supporters; they don't care. It’s not an issue with the "die-hards" as you guys call them; plenty of mediocre fans show up too. Just look at the fences every other weekend. Let's not be hypocrites; everyone knows which groups actually bring the numbers. On paper, it sounds crazy, but reality is a different story.

Exactly. 👍👍

Pyrotechnic chaos at the Cup😉

🙂

rapidstag37 said:Mario Galić, a die-hard Real Madrid fan who barely escaped with his life during the May 1st riots outside Yankee Stadium, sits down in a video at the exact spot where he was shot three years ago. He opens up about the aftermath and how surviving that tragedy completely changed the course of his life.

Look, I have nothing but sympathy for what he’s going through, but seriously, what the hell is happening at 0:41? What kind of nonsense is that?
That’s the right way to look at things. That’s how we move forward. 👍

Michael Gray94 said:Shame on you! 😍

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdIRhoALsm4 😬😬

Must be nice being loaded, just ignoring the clock

all just to stir the pot, huh? 😍

Kate Ward50 said:I don't know who you are or what you're about, but I'm already counting you in for the van. 😁
Don't sweat it—it’s basically just a filter for the idiots anyway.
Better to type than to fight—it's less damage in the long run. 😉

It’s funny how some losers try to act like they actually know what they’re talking about by quoting someone who thinks they’re always right, just to feel included in the conversation among these clueless online fans. 🙂

Jesse Campbell said:What are you even talking about? Anyone following this forum with half a brain knows the Black Knights won't shut up about anything. You guys are ready to drag out a fight with the Bad Boys for 19 straight pages. Then it's the Mafia, the Cohort, and so on... whereas over here, we don't bother with that kind of nonsense...

I wasn't mocking the Black Knights when I wrote that the BBB is the strongest group in Europe in terms of fan culture. Your buddies—who clearly struggle with basic logic—took it as me taking a dig at your specific group...

Look, you Miami folks are famous for exaggerating. If you can honestly claim Miami is the most beautiful city in the world—which is total nonsense, given there are at least ten better spots in America—then why shouldn't I be allowed to say the BBB are the toughest group in Europe when it comes to uncompromising grit and balls? It's pretty damn close to the truth.

Huh? ☕

Of course, any claim should be open to criticism, including mine. But the argument that other groups should act the same way if they were in our shoes? I'm not buying it. That’s just wishful thinking that rarely holds up in reality. If a group has been in fierce opposition for years against so many powerful opponents, then that actually means something. And I guarantee you, it isn't by accident.

Should I start listing all the groups that compromised with politics, bowed their heads, or turned into nothing more than corporate puppets? ☕

Honestly, I have no idea where you get the nerve to fight like this. You guys were deep in the pocket of the establishment for years, and now you're talking like you're in grade school. That little theory of yours—that it was strictly a closed circle of ten people that nobody knew about—you can only sell that to your own people. The whole scene knows that a huge chunk of the current crowd consists of people who used to be deep undercover agents..

coastalheron12 said:these messages are useless...

A couple of tightening restrictions would actually send a message.

Rambo actually signed up and is posting on the forum. 😲

Are you part of a union?

Kate Ward50 said:Let the green silk banners wave in the wind...
The dirty laundry has been aired!🙂

🤣🤣🤣

The cops are tearing up our choreography🙂

It’s always funny when forum handles band together to suffer through some global meltdown that has absolutely zero connection to their actual lives.

Every single die-hard fan on this board writes because they’re genuinely trying to shake people out of their collective stupor—they actually give a damn. Meanwhile, everyone else spends days arguing over whether some group is "evil" just because of the music playing in the background, pushing the debate into total psychopathic territory.

wearyraven25 said:Let's take it from the top.
You walked into this argument on the wrong foot by acting like you had to defend what "correct" fan mentality looks like to me. I actually think much like you do; I’m just asking you to clear up some contradictions. Right now, it feels like this "ultra" mindset is being forced, or maybe you just haven't made up your mind yet.

Fair enough. Let's go through this point by point.
I agree that people evolve throughout their lives—their worldviews change, including this little micro-world of fan culture we're discussing right now.

I never claimed marketing was the *only* way to fund things; you jumped to that conclusion yourself, which is where you went wrong.
My actual point, which I brought up in my first reply, is about ethics. It’s one thing to criticize the club's current reliance on marketing revenue (and look, I have my own thoughts on marketing), but it’s another to bash that exact money source while simultaneously using those same funds to run terrace activities.
Now we’re back to ideals and the idea that there's always more to learn.
If you're truly committed to the ultra lifestyle, you should be able to admit when you're wrong. There's no shame in it.
It's never too late for a better starting point.

wearyraven25 said:As Rommel noted, there isn't a better way to fund things currently—well, technically there is, like passing the collection buckets in the stands, but that wouldn't even cover a round of drinks at a local pub...
Don't get me wrong on the rest.

That doesn't sound ambiguous to me at all.
I see what you're getting at. You're saying there's truth to it, but it's not quite that simple. I've edited my last post. If you look at the big picture, you'll see there isn't really anything to "confess," though to be honest, that's never been an issue.

And following your lead on how public debates work regarding certain topics, I won't dive into a deep debate about money right now—at least not while there's still space for it here. 😉

wearyraven25 said:Exactly, which is why there's no need to rush things.
Especially for those of you with plenty of time ahead of you; experience will come naturally along with everything else life throws at you.

I wasn't talking about marketing—I was referring to stadium operations and funding.

Time is relative. You had it once, so what's the big deal?
I’m not talking about following some textbook rule here; I mean how things work in nature. We all start out as infants and grow throughout our lives—some people spend their whole lives missing certain things, others don't.
You brought up ideals, well, ideals don't care about timing.

Hold on a second. Are you really suggesting that marketing-based financing is the only valid way to go, and then you ask me this? 😕

Marketing isn't the only way to bring in cash, if that's what you're implying...